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Re: Toyota Corolla Paint Problems [tunawitch40]
Written by: barryw4 on Nov 13, 2012 9:22:54 PM
General comments (see 'Paint' below) I am one of the first ones to defend a good product, but by the same token, I won't turn a blind eye when I think quality has slipped. I have owned Toyotas for thirty years, including four Corollas (1984, 1997, 2004, and 2009 [I also owned a 1978 Celica hatchback from 1982 - 2008]) and I have generally been a satisfied customer. In my humble ... Read More
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Re: Toyota Corolla Paint Problems [mcdawgg]
Written by: zlatina on Oct 21, 2012 9:01:08 PM
It is my experience and observations that I trust most. Recently I stop at different dealerships because I am really thinking of trading in my Toyota for another make. What I can see is many 2010 and 2011 Toyota Corollas that have already been traded in for other makes. Out of curiosity, I look at these cars and what I notice is tons of more chips and scratches than on mine! ... Read More
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Re: Toyota Corolla Paint Problems [crystalpistol]
Written by: mcdawgg on Oct 14, 2012 5:01:08 PM
Strange - our 2010 Corolla has been flawless, and Consumer Reports, True Delta, JD Powers all say Corolla is extremely reliable, fuel efficient, little or no issues. Complaints - the interior scratches easily, & clock should be higher.
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Re: The truth [biffpreston1]
Written by: bleschber on Feb 2, 2011 7:15:45 AM
biffpreston1, I'm not sure what grade your English professor gave you on your research project, but I hope it wasn't an "A". You have hurt the quality of this discussion forum by spreading inaccurate information about the 2010 & 2011 Toyota Corolla Electronic Power Steering systems. I'd like to set the record straight for everyone reading here, because better understanding the new EPS systems in the new cars is important. I ... Read More
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Re: 2009 Toyota Corolla Steering Problem EPS [budarow]
Written by: wishin_4a_ford on Mar 8, 2011 3:59:11 AM
We bought 2 2010 Corolla's. The first was an LE, and the second an S. As many of you already know the only difference between the two cars is cosmetic and tire size since the LE came with 15" steel wheels. The LE had the steering problem from day one. We had test driven an identical LE with Firestone tires, and the delivered one with Goodyear tires. They disclosed that the ... Read More
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Re: 2009 Toyota Corolla Steering Problem EPS [pekelvr]
Written by: budarow on Mar 7, 2011 10:08:22 AM
Thanks for the information. Looks like the EPS TSB was officially issued on 10/7/2010. As I said in my earlier post, the Corolla S manufactured in 10/2010 seemed to steer fine while the car built in 8/2010 had the steering issue. Maybe Toyota decided to use the better EPS computer in the cars built around the time the TSB was issued and afterwards? FYI, I called the Toyota dealership to find ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Written by: sjarea on Jan 12, 2011 5:17:11 PM
Terceltom, I already told you - No I would not have detected it and that I disagree with you as I have shown in my previous posts. I was NOT negligent. Negligence implies I had some inkling that a problem existed and did further research into the issue and found there was an issue or failed not to research when I had the inkling and still bought the car and then ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Written by: terceltom on Jan 12, 2011 1:40:43 PM
sjavea states - "toyota knew of the EPS issue and dealers picked test models that did not have the issue" Yes, It's very possible that Toyota knew of the EPS problem when you bought your car, hence that's probrably why they had you test drive a demo/EPS problem free Corolla. Even more reason why you should test drive the actual car you are going to purchase. sjavea states - "And since ... Read More
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Re: 2009 Toyota Corolla Steering Problem EPS [budarow]
Written by: pekelvr on Mar 7, 2011 7:40:28 AM
I do not believe they use VIN #s to find the specific cars. The EPS issue just happened for certain years. My Corolla S is a 2010 model, but before that I had a 2008 model, same car different year though but the key is they both had the same problem which is the car cannot just stay moving forward in straight path and the driver has to over compensate in ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Written by: sjarea on Jan 12, 2011 7:30:39 PM
Probably not since I have driven test models before and never had problems in the past when buying a new car. The only right thing for me to do is never buy a toyota again.
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Re: 2009 Toyota Corolla Steering Problem EPS [amg1099]
Written by: budarow on Mar 6, 2011 3:05:10 PM
Thanks for the information regarding the Corolla and EPS issue. Does anyone know which Vin Numbers have the faulty EPS computer (i.e., by default, which Vins may NOT have the faulty EPS)? Or possibly which production months do NOT have the faulty EPS? I've test driven several new 2010 Corolla S models and plan to purchase 1 next week providing the steering issue is indeed fixed at the factory during production ... Read More
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I recommend 2011 Toyota Corolla S
Written by: dchev on Mar 5, 2011 4:33:12 PM
I recommend 2011 Toyota Corolla S. It is an excellent choice of contemporary vehicle......and I am not Toyota employee :) I have had a chance to drive for some time new 2004 Toyota RAV4, 2005 Solara, 2009 Matrix, 2010 Prius and now 2011 Corolla in the past several years, and I can say that 2011 Toyota Corolla is a very good ride. In addition, I like the refreshed styling of the ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Written by: terceltom on Jan 12, 2011 6:03:39 PM
sjarea states - "What you might be inferring is diligence" No, what I was inferring was negligence - as in, the failure to exercise that degree of care in circumstances. sjarea states - "If toyota most likely knew of the problem then I do not think they should wait for people to complain. They should do the right thing and issue a recall" I agree 100% but unfortunately and apparently you ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Written by: terceltom on Jan 12, 2011 3:58:49 PM
Let me ask you simple question - Now that you're stuck with your Corolla that has EPS issues, do you wish you would have taken YOUR car on a half hour test drive on the highway where you would have noticed this problem? The buyers in these examples that you site made the same mistake you did, they didn't test drive on the highway as recommended by Edmunds and other auto ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Written by: sjarea on Jan 12, 2011 2:45:44 PM
Terceltom, The dollar amount is irrelevant in my examples. What I am referring to is the customer buying experience NOT the dollar amount. So, yes, one can really compare the buying experience of a burger to a car. However, in terms of dollar amounts I do think every buyer spending a few $1K's want a car that is at least going to drive straight!! Here are some examples of people that ... Read More
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Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla LE Auto Pricing in Chicago [andrelaplume]
Written by: jha222 on Feb 22, 2011 1:59:58 PM
Hello, i dont know. This is the last 2010 they have. I just asked for a 2010 because of the 0 APR. Do you mind sharing how much did you pay for your car ? $17,431 is the OTD including the $1000 rebates. Any suggestions on the counter offer ?
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Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla LE Auto Pricing in Chicago [jha222]
Written by: andrelaplume on Feb 22, 2011 1:40:44 PM
sounds like I should have waited till Feb to buy! How did you find an LE with a moonroof...by me I just see them on the S's.
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2010 Toyota Corolla LE Auto Pricing in Chicago
Written by: jha222 on Feb 22, 2011 1:32:51 PM
Hello, It is a 2010 Toyota Corolla LE Auto with the following options: AM/FM/ In-Dash 6 CD Changer with MP3/WMA Playback Capability, Satellite Capable (Requires Receiver & Subscription) with Six Speakers ..................................... 240.00 All Weather Guard Package ............................................................. 150.00 LE EVP #1: Includes Cruise Control and Remote Keyless Entry w/ Key Transmitter ................................................................................- ............................ 100 Power Tilt & Slide Moonroof with Sunshade .......................................... 890.00 The OTD price is $17,431.93. Do you ... Read More
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Re: Corolla for $14.7k OTD + 0% APR, ok deal? [kannanp]
Written by: shouravv on Feb 16, 2011 2:58:52 PM
Sorry for the late reply, I was a little busy. Mine is a base model: so no power window, key-less entry or power locks. But it has the all weather package (snow tires, more powerful heater, rear heating duct, anti-chip tape) and carpeted floor mats (5 pcs). I got it from Tansky Sawmill Toyota. It was the last 2010 base model they had. Last time I checked, Germain had two of ... Read More
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The truth
Written by: biffpreston1 on Jan 7, 2011 5:05:06 PM
Sjarea, I own a Godawful driving 2009 Toyota Corolla with EPS and I can tell you a few things about EPS and the particular type of EPS they have in this particular make and model of car. This guy that trolls this message board defending Toyota against any and all negative criticism is not being honest with you or anyone else he has corresponded with about the EPS issue pertaining to ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Written by: sjarea on Jan 7, 2011 12:45:53 PM
"As far as my own particular 2009 Toyota Corolla XLE, I accuired my car in July of 2008. Even at this early stage it was documented by some that this EPS problem was showing it's face." That is what I am asking you - WHERE is this documentation you speak of that you used before you bought your car regarding specifically EPS issues. "I made it very clear to my salesman ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Written by: terceltom on Jan 7, 2011 12:05:57 PM
Your missing the whole point. The EPS problems in some of the newer Corollas didn't just appear on its own. If you car has this problem, it had it from day one. The vehicles that have the EPS problem, had it from the very start. Now again, if you test drove the same Corolla you were going to buy, trust me, you would have known it had you taken it out ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Written by: sjarea on Jan 7, 2011 9:19:40 AM
TercelTom, "if you would have test driven the same vehicle you were going to purchase I assume you would have caught the problem in the particular car you have now, correct?" No. That is incorrect. I have already pointed out numerous times such as dealers picking cars that did NOT have the EPS issue so a buyer did not know what to even look for IMO, searching in the NHTSA/ODI database, ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Written by: sjarea on Jan 6, 2011 6:24:30 PM
Thats a pretty fast response there TercelTom. HOW did you know the 09 had an EPS issue? Whether I knew or not (which I did not know toyota had EPS issues) does NOT matter nor is is now a 'new' issue. Toyota knew of the issue and continued to sell the cars. Period. Again, if you knew HOW and if you knew why didn't toyota?
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Written by: sjarea on Jan 6, 2011 6:15:53 PM
TercelTom, For the same reason they picked a corolla w/out an EPS for me to test drive. They wanted to sell one and I wanted to buy one. And the way your question is phrased makes it sound like I knew of the issue before hand. I did not. You have stated you own an '09. Did you know of this issue before you tested one? Of course you didn't. So, ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Written by: smallcar1 on Jan 3, 2011 8:28:31 PM
The new Corolla is garbage, they would have trouble selling them if without the Toyota name. I rented one in Fla. On a 2 hour drive on I95 and I4 which are very smooth the steering required constant correction. On an empty road I drove 15 MPH with my hands off the wheel and the car went straight so it was not an alignment issue. The car always felt like it ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Written by: sjarea on Dec 31, 2010 7:12:54 AM
Do you think a dealer would want you to test drive one of these particular vehicles with the EPS problem or do you think he would pick-out a problem free car for you to test drive? If he wants to sell you a car he’s gonna want you to test drive the cream of his inventory not a lemon. Yes! That is exactly what I am saying. They picked the test ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Written by: terceltom on Dec 31, 2010 5:12:05 AM
"I have never ever had a problem buying the two previous brand new toyotas from stock off the lot after driving their test models(or from any other manufacturer and I have bought lots of new cars over all my years and most people I know do it exactly as I do and also do not have any problems)". Well you have never had a problem until now did you? To each ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Written by: sjarea on Dec 30, 2010 10:03:53 PM
TercelTom, I do not buy what you're selling my friend. I think you would be right in the case where someone buys a vehicle and then has 'buyers remorse' over the decision they made to purchase that make/model. That is not the case with the people posting about EPS issue nor the cause of the NHTSA investigation into toyotas EPS issue. I say that because people who have the EPS issue ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [terceltom]
Written by: sjarea on Dec 23, 2010 9:49:15 PM
terceltom, The investigation is still on going so we shall see. Investigation summary link- http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/defect/defectsummary2.cfm?inv_id=1922- - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4&type=VEHICLE&typenum=1&cmpt_id=1&prod_id=400766&make=TOYOTA&model=COROLLA&mode- - - - - - - - - - - - - - l_yr=2009 You can really only speak for yours as I can only speak to mine. And besides the NHTSA investigation all one has to do is a google search ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [shouravv]
Written by: sjarea on Dec 23, 2010 8:07:20 PM
shouravv, You're welcome for the link. It is kinda hard to find. Even on the ODI website where one should be able to search for TSB's it is NOT listed. I will look at my paper work and let you know after the 1st of the year. I am somewhat combining my answer for you 1&2- As far as I am aware there is no way to re-program it internally. It ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Written by: shouravv on Dec 23, 2010 5:29:20 PM
Thanks for the reply, sjarea! Yes, if you can please look up the service record when you are back and let us know if the actual computer module was replaced, that'd be great. I am interested about it for two reasons - 1. If it is simply a reprogramming issue, I might just ask for it during my next scheduled maintenance, although I don't have any issue with staying centered as ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [shouravv]
Written by: sjarea on Dec 22, 2010 9:58:00 PM
shouravv, I had the centering issue. The TSB-0140-10 fix did NOT stiffen the feel. As far as I can tell it remained the same. I think the best description I've heard to describe it is - video-game like. No road feedback at all and every effortless when turning. But, toyota is known for light steering feel and I knew that as a previous owner (except for my 91 pick-up that had ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [sjarea]
Written by: terceltom on Dec 21, 2010 4:54:41 AM
I'm glad you were able to get your steering to your liking. I agree with your sumation of shouravv's assesment. I was also very fortunate as to not have the EPS steering problem when I purchased my 2009 new Corolla. Although many, many 2009, 2010 Corolla owners acused me of being a Toyota rep. or just being plain crazy or lying because I defended my car. I'm glad you at least ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering [shouravv]
Written by: sjarea on Dec 21, 2010 12:28:13 AM
As someone that has had the issue and took it to the dealer for the TSB fix I can assure you I do not/did not hold my hand more or less steady than I did when I was having the ECU (Electronic Control Unit that is the 'brains' for EPS) issue. I completely agree w/ your assessment of the corolla feel, but at the same time I do not think you ... Read More
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2007 Santa Fe vs. 2010 Corolla Steering
Written by: shouravv on Dec 19, 2010 11:54:23 PM
I am fully aware that it's an apples to oranges comparison, and can no way to be on the same scale. But, since these are the two cars I drive regularly, here's my impression on the EPS issue. The 2007 Santa Fe 4WD I drive for work, long distance usually, has a classic power steering. It is quite "stiff", needs force to be steered, and you feel the road very intimately. ... Read More
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Re: Guess what? Steering issue! [pekelvr]
Written by: terceltom on Nov 8, 2010 6:59:42 PM
Don't really think all of those threats are necessary at this point in time. By now I believe the Toyota dealers are well aware of the problems with the EPS on some 2009 and 2010 Corollas as well as the EPS TSB out on some of these Corollas. I believe if you just show them that you are educated on the problem they will repair as necessary. I like to think ... Read More