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Nissan Pathfinder 2002 LE
lms5574, 05/02/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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I can't complain about the car itself, I know it would consume a lot of gas. Don't buy an SUV if you think you will compete with a Corolla. Nissan Sales and Service is not the greatest, but hopefully you won't have to spend much time with them, the less the better. A great car for a little too high price, but I am still happy with it.
the best Pathfinder ever
JerryBaito, 05/20/2004
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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What can I say, the best Pathfinder ever made by Nissan, shift-
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Great Car if you are under 6' tall
sharkie, 08/25/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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We haven't quite had it a month yet, but we love it. One thing, well maybe two. I am 6'3" tall and weigh over 250 (Relatively muscular 250) and it is a snug fit. My legs are pretty cramped and there is not a lot of room on the sides. I know it is one of the stronger V6 motors for this size vehicle, but the mileage is pretty week. I have a big V8 Chevy truck and it gets just a few miles less per gallon.
Fun to Drive but tight for big guys.
dr, 03/04/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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The 2002 Pathfinder is definitely fun to drive, especially with the newer and more powerfull engine. I have a 4WD LE with everything except the entertainment unit and Navigation system. The drive is smooth, comfortable and fun. The only drawback is the lack of head room, which decreases about another 1 to 1 1/2 inches with the moon roof. It's very tight for anyone over 6'.
It's an "OK" SUV
Piggy, 08/22/2004
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Purchased this vehicle used. The cd player stopped working after 6 mos. The dealer wants to charge $500 for a new player. The drive is smooth, only on a smooth road; otherwise, when we hit a bump it feels like i'm about to be thrown out of the vehicle. Passenger leg-room is limited. Very convient to have the radio controls on the steering wheel, b'cuz the radio is hard to reach while driving. Good cargo space when the seats are folded down. The SUV is very durable, and stylish.
Great SUV...the greatest...
pathlover, 08/25/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Car-like riding... style...strong engine and great handling...best SUV under $30K ...
For a good value, play your cards right!
kiyyap, 10/17/2004
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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The 2002 LE 4WD is my 5th pathfinder (1993,1995,1997,2001,2002).I have had it for 3 years now and I will have it until it dies. My first four pathfinders were XE 2WD models and I splurged on this one and learned a big lesson. You can easily find a 2 year old model and save yourself about $20K and have a very very very great truck. Then engine is strong and the Auto 4WD with limited slip is extremely able to get you through the snow/ice/rain/sand etc etc. I have pulled 4000 lbs with this car cross country and I have taken this off road. I have only experienced two problems, cracked joints on the exhaust pipes and BOSE 6CD head unit replaced under warranty.
Great Buy!!!
Rabs13, 11/17/2004
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Nissan's are built to last as long as you take care of them. I love my Pathfinder. Gas mileage is lousy but then agian, it's an SUV. But the amenities that come w/the truck are great and I will keep it until I run it into the ground.
Pathfinder Fan
Joe Lessor, 08/27/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Only 1000 miles on it so far. Excellent SUV. Very sporty and smooth.
Pathfinder's great except for fuel cost
Paige Young, 01/01/2005
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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The Pathfinder is sporty yet classy. It has quick acceleration, is easy to manuever, has great visability, comfort, style, reliability, is not too big, yet can carry a lot of cargo, and is fun to drive. Two cons only: I only get 17 miles per gallon in the city, and the CD player, which has been replaced once by Nissan, is very finicky. Other than that....it is an AWESOME vehicle.
Nice duds
potter1021, 08/28/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Just purchased an 02 LE. Love it. Had a Honda prior- a lease. DON'T EVER LEASE. I made that mistake 3.5 yrs ago. My Pathfinder has all the perks. Smooth ride. Substantial power when I need it. Averages better gas mileage than advertised, 4-5 miles better. Nissan should revise the mpg to 19/23. Excellent vehicle to start a family with.
3 years and 60,000 miles later
6th SUV, 05/25/2005
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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This has been a very good vehicle for us. Runs rings around the 99 Grand Cherokee we had before this Pathfinder. However in my 40 years of driving I have never had an exhaust manifold break. Not one but both broke on this SUV at 50,000 miles and the dealer wants $1200.00 to replace them. I feel this is not a normal situation and should have been replaced under the drivetrain warrenty. Besides this issue this has been a very reliable SUV, we travel with it alot and I have confidence where ever I go with it.
doc's
cfdcfd, 04/20/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Excellent build quality, handles well, plenty of power.
Amazing
arif, 11/13/2005
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Amazing car. Feels like a Jaguar while on the road, and total confidence off road. Fuel economy a little low, but, hey, aren't all SUVs? Bought brand new in March 2002 and no problems at all. That's why it has amazing resale in our part of the world. Prettiest 4x4 in terms of exterior, while interior is comfortable and functional. All in all, $ for $ the best SUV in the world. It's ripe for replacement as it's approaching 4 years, but I can't find any alternative that will match it for build quality, comfort, ergonomics and performance in that price range. So I guess I'll be keeping it!
Nissan Driven
drew-be-do-be-doo, 06/03/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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I must say that I was not thrilled with the 95-99 designs of the Pathfinder. But that all changed when I saw the 02 LE. Wow! DVD in the back seat and Navigation System up front - this is a deal worth having! Keep in mind that the 03 will not have Navigation offered - you must go with the QX4 to get that! So it seems to be an impossible deal to pass up. 3.9 financing and a powerful 3.5l engine, smooth car like ride and rich leather interior. Why pay 10k more for the Acura when you can have the same with a Nissan? Run and get this now! When the 02s are gone, there will be no more GPS in the pathfinders!!!
After One Week In Our New 02 Pathfinder
ChicagoPathfinder, 08/28/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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After a week with our new Pathfinder LE I must admit that I'm very impressed overall. I also heavily considered the Toyota 4Runner, Infinity QX4 (almost the same vehicle as the Pathfinder), and Lexus RX300. Build quality is excellent. Performance excellent! Price was less than the Lexus and the Toyota. Drives more like a car than a truck. Not the most attractive of the bunch (the 4Runner is better looking). However, the 240 HP engine and towing capacity (tows my 2500 lb boat) put the Pathfinder well over the others. Even without the towing capability I would have chosen it though.
no comparison
jdy, 12/17/2005
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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i've considered toyota 4runner and honda pilot and nothing comes close to this truck. bought it used but this suv drives like it was brand new. very car like handling and the exterior design is very simple and elegant. worth every bang of your $$$.
A great knockaround vehicle
BOU962, 01/16/2006
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Love this SUV. A smooth ride that could induce car-sickness, a powerful engine, and conveniently-placed and thought-out controls make the car a gem. With regular all-season tires, holds the road in ice and snow, and stops on a dime if you're not driving like a drunken banshee. While 4WD can be taxing on tires, the Bridgestones wore out much too quickly - and were vulnerable to shoulder wear despite frequent rotation and balancing. Depending on driver height and seat position, blind spots (merging, etc.) can be a problem - encourage all your family members to test-drive before you buy.
good car!
vananali, 09/07/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Exellent SUV choice. Good power, nice, if dated ergonomics, pure exterior design, nice leather. Very quiet interior at highway speeds. Everything about this rig instills quality, solid feel. My only complaint is the numb, no feel steering - my wife's 2001Mazda Tribute, although not nearly as refined-feeling as the Pathfinder, is much more fun to drive. That car has also excellent power (200 hp), which it uses well since the Mazda is substantially lighter. I think they are equal off the line, seat-of- the-pants assesment. Anyway, the Pathfinder is roomier than Toyota 4-Runner and probably the best value for the $$$. Go try one, you will like it.
Good Pathfinder
R Cross, 02/10/2006
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Very good stylish vehicle which has ample storage or travelling space. Rides extremely well and handles well in snow or other wet conditions. We have 2 dogs who enjoy travelling between Rhode Island and Pennsylvania where we use the SUV to go to football games and tailgate with friends and family.
buy one
pathfinder owner, 03/08/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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my 2wd pathfinder le is faster than my friend honda civic lol
Just bought it
bfallingstar, 08/23/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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The interior options sold us. Excellent sound system and leather interior. Very well thought out displays. Very powerful 6 cylinder engine. Larger body than I expected, but still manageable. Not much price negotiation, (I guess it's popular enough that the dealer doesn't have to negotiate much.)
2002 pathfinder SE 4x2
David M, 03/09/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Great looks. Smooth ride and not top heavy. Great power.
Still Like It
TX Driver, 02/16/2006
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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I got my Pathfinder brand new and drive it 30 miles every day to and from work. My husband and I also wind up driving it on the weekends instead of his 2003 Chevrolet Pickup. We call it the "grocery wagon" because it's so easy to access the back to put in shopping bags. It seems like it can haul just about as much as a full-sized pickup when we fold the seats down. It's sturdy, airtight, and has plenty of pickup on the road. I was looking for another SUV, but the new ones don't have much more to offer than my 2002 model.
Very Much A Mixed Bag
bfife, 08/07/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Bought my LE in Jan.02. Looks great,well thought out interior features,great engine,nice Bose stereo, but it rides like a buckboard, has pitiful headroom, and has garnered nothing but complaints from my family about backseat room, comfort, and ease of ingress/egress.Took it in because "service engine soon"light was on. Now after my 5th trip back to the dealer, it's finally fixed.
Gotta love this truck
nemoret, 05/07/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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This is my first SUV and I absolutely love it. The ride is smoother than any car I've ever owned. The fit and finish is beyond reproach. I've had the truck for 4 weeks now and cannot find a single defect, not a squeak, rattle or non-functional anything. Incredibly quiet. I'd buy another today if I could.
Great Deal on Pathfinder
bman33, 06/05/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Shopped the Pathfinder against Honda Pilot, Hyundai Santa Fe, Ford Escape. No comparison. Pathfinder had a cheaper lease, better equipment, more power and nicer ride than all the above. We were able to land a 2002 SE automatic w/ Popular package, mats, in-cabin filter for $27,000.
Overall Good SUV
razzz00, 09/13/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Overall my initial impression of this vehicle is very good. I looked at the Toyota Highlander and Chevy TrailBlazer. As a past Super Chevy sportster it was hard not to go with the Chevy but the reliability concerned me. The highlander was a minivan dressed to look like a SUV. The Pathfinder was a true truck buy didn't ride or handle like one. I only have two issues at this point. First, there appears to be excessive play in the drive train. Second, the Bose stereo is underpowered and has disappointing sound quality. I am not a radio blaster but you need to hear the radio when your on the road with the windows down. The in dash 6 CD changer is nice.
Great rig
PathyGuy, 12/22/2008
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Bought this new and thought it was fine. After 6 years of only doing minimal maintenance, this thing rocks. With limited slip diff and old fashioned 4x4 (which I prefer), this thing can plow thru any snow and even does better than most others trucks/SUVs in icy conditions. Just get some good aggressive tires for offroading or deep snow.
One Super SUV
d lundgren, 05/01/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Second Pathfinder in the family, first for me, a 2002 SE with the roof and POP options. After 22 years of Honda ownership, with the new Pilot not offering the roof or outside thermometer, I jumped to Nissan and couldn't be more pleased. Bayshore blue color a little weird at first but really grows on you and gets lots of compliments. Car is solid, a gas to drive, no bad news here.
Path a perfect pick!
Dame, 05/11/2006
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Last year, my wife and I traded our sorry Ford Focus for a 2002 Pathfinder, and I must say, they step up has been huge! I've always wanted a truck, but needed one now because of the birth of our second child. The truck has proved to be extremely reliable, handling last winter's snow storm with no drama. It's also decent on the open road. We go back and forth between PA and NY, and the car handles I-95 wonderfully, as it does Canal Street traffic. Anyone who knows Canal Street knows that it can be unbearable on an engine during a hot summer day, idling while trying to get through the tunnel. The interior is also decent, with full power and access. It was a solid purchase!
Excellent Choice
APMX, 09/08/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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We bought our Pathfinder in January 02, and have had no problems. Fit and finish top notch. Great stereo. Love those steering wheel controls.
Best suv ever
Pimp Daddy, 11/13/2006
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Its a beast on and off the road and its reliable and has great pickup. Roomy! Stylish. I put a cattle grille and rear tail lamp guards on my silver pathfinder so it looks more rugged.
hope this is the one
spotbearaz, 04/08/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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I drove it after driving every SUV/Hybrid thing their was out there at least three times, and I was sold.It had power and poise and 4Low to boot! Plus is was not gonna take me an hour to wash it or rearage/rebuild my garage to store it.(I also walked away from the Highlander due to numerous complaints about deafening noises with the rear windows rolled down..they were right)check out CARREVIEWS.COM good reviews from actual long term owners and not kids that seem to infultrate this one..sorry edmunds, but I dont agree with your mid-size comparison.. You should of used an LE version.
I had to replace it!
Mark, 01/25/2008
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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I bought a early 1999 Pathfinder LE in 2002. It was my first SUV and I loved it! I had an issue with head gaskets that cost me a bit but well worth it. In December '07 my wife and 10 month old son were rear-ended and the truck was flipped onto its roof. Amazingly the only injury was a scratch on my wife's head. For that reason alone I had to replace it with another Pathfinder ASAP. Just bought a 2002 SE and can't wait to get behind the wheel again. I got a great price but the Bose radios 6 disc changer doesn't work. I would recommend a Pathfinder to anyone looking for an SUV!
Total comfort
Mr. Ron, 10/29/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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This is my first SUV. I never really considered a Pathfinder in the past because I thought of it as an off road vehicle, which I really didn't need. Then I sat in one at the NY Auto show and thought, this is really nice! I bought one and I love it. Though the gas mileage isn't the best, everything else about it outweighs that drawback. It's extremely comfortable, great handling, and has everything I would every need. My local dealer is great also. Very accommodating. So far, I'm very pleased.
No comparison
Jeff, 12/11/2006
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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It's truly no comparison. The build quality is perfect. 100% reliable. Bought the truck used (05) and haven't had any problems ever. Very powerful engine and very smooth on the road. Its like driving a luxury vehicle. Go test drive one to believe.
Love every moment
lzzz, 05/01/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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This is the first SUV I own, and what can I say...I love it. I don't think I could go back to driving a car.
the ultimate mid-size suv
sharkbait, 04/01/2003
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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apart from the crappy oem tires, this beats the pants off of the gr. cherokee i had before this. comfort, power, great fit and finish, and nissan quality. handles like my old accord, but just as capable as my jeep off- road. i test drove them all - 4runner, gr. cherokee, land rover. studied all of the reviews. edmunds was dead-on: this is a great vehicle.
All-around best SUV I have driven
Thalodian, 03/19/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Before purchasing my Pathfinder, I drove several of the top brands and found them all lacking in one way or another. The Pathfinder combines car-like ride and handling with class-leading power in a luxurious package. The only down-side is the fuel economy, which is a trade-off for having 250 HP under the hood.
scratched paint
JMM71, 06/24/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Picked up my Pathfinder. Took off the wind deflector for the sunroof that can with the vehicle( I don't like them or the look. It was all scratched underneath. A little disappointed at the fools that installed it. They did a good job messing up the Sherwood Green paint, right to the metal(and not just a little). Bringing it back to dealership, after having it 1 day. Other than that. It's no sedan (previouesly owned a 2001 V6 Accord EX), but I knew that before my fiance and I traded our cars in for one automobile.
pathfinder
gerald brother, 02/28/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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excellent vehicle! i own 8 cars and enjoy the 260 bhp nissan best! 5-speed manual makes this a very fun suv to drive. 0 defects...try that w a blazer, liberty, expoder, etc...
This vehicle is awesome......
alankc1, 03/15/2007
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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I don't think I've ever owned a vehicle that I love more than this one. It has all the options, other than leather, (but who needs leather, hah) and I've installed a satellite radio system.....For the money, you can't go wrong.
great vehicle
sehochst, 05/09/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Love to drive it. Could use a little more front and rear leg room. Wonderful handling
The best of the best
Happy PF Owner, 06/10/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Traded my lousy ML320 for a new Pathfinder and love it. This is the best SUV out there and for the price. I've looked at them all, and the only comparison would be a BMW X5. Save the money on an Infiniti and consider the Pathfinder. Same thing.
Great SUV--beware of tire wear
passionforskiing, 03/06/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Terrific SUV and I would definitely purchase another one. I drive 42K/yr. and am very satisfied. If you buy one, be sure to rotate your tires often. I do it every oil change, 5K.
Best Midsize SUV
a32, 05/23/2008
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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Love this SUV. It handles great on the road, as nimble and stable as it gets for an SUV. Great power, gets off the line very nicely. Very fun to drive. Trade-off for the stability and agility is a harsh ride (especially for backseat riders). Bumps are very hard and abrupt with 5 ppl. Even though it's a 2WD I have taken it offroad and it has handled everything I've thrown at it. Average 16-17 mpg mixed (majority city). Zero problems.
Awesome SUV
Chase, 04/01/2007
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 4WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 5M)
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Great SUV, if you're buying an SUV expect to get and pay for the gas mileage of an SUV (17 mpg avg). Rides smooth, excellent steering, most comfortable seats front and rear, good utility, 4 wheel drive can plow through anything, gusto V6, Bose sound system is tuned perfectly- sound is great, soft touch plastics, great safe SUV. I have experienced a couple rattles up on the dash but very minor, 02 sensors went out at 75000 ($400), and the muffler (catback, everything) replaced at 65000 miles because it failed on me ($500). otherwise, great vehicle - look into it.
LOVE MY CHOICE!
path27, 03/28/2002
2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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If you're looking for the best SUV under 30K, this is DEFINITELY the car. Leading engine in it's class, rugged yet stylish looks, roomy interior, EXCELLENT VALUE for the price, easy AND LOTS OF FUN to drive. Hybrid on-road/off-road claim is justified. Feels like a sedan on the highway/can handle almost anything you give it off-road as well. 4Runner and Cherokee don't match it overall
Good SUV
Lucas, 01/03/2009
2002 Nissan Pathfinder SE 2WD 4dr SUV (3.5L 6cyl 4A)
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I bought The Pathfinder because it was praised on here, and I'm glad I did. It drives well, runs quiet, and hasn't given me major problems yet. I bought mine with 134,000 miles on it, but they are mostly highway miles. She gets around 15-16 MPG, but I'm trying to get her to around 20 or so. Probably going to add a K&N cold air intake soon. Changing your own oil can be kinda a drag too, being that the oil filter is underneath the semi-skid plate.