I went to buy a 2016 Pilot. Wanted it bad, was dreaming about one. Family is growing, was thinking a Pilot would do it. It is OK Pilot has a smaller trunk, OK that 3rd row is smaller, OK it is 5 grands more - such a nice car. Well, after trying Pilot and Odyssey (just to prove myself that Odyssey is no match for a 40yo alfa male) I almost cried. Pilot is a truck, plain and simple. I felt that I'm driving an 18 wheeler. Attach wheels to my house, give it an engine - that's how it I felt. Parking garage at work? OMG, not in a Pilot. Odyssey is a car like. Not as silent as Pilot, but so much easier to drive. Feels much secure. Acceleration is about the same. So much easier to see what is around you. Dung, I hate minivans. But unless I'm in the middle of a desert in Texas or in Chicago snows in January Odyssey still would be my choice. Also, 31k for SE OTD with 0.9% apr is so much better than 37k with 2.8% for Pilot. ------- Update, 6 months and 10k miles later. I'm averaging 22mpg 50 highway/50 city combined. We made multiple long trips in Odyssey with 4 kids and it is great for that. I also think that LX at the current price (25k) is probably a better deal after all - the middle seat on the second row had to be removed to allow two kids to get into the third row without troubles. With car seats in place second row seats do not give you enough space to slide them (LX doesn't have middle second row seat by default). Vac was used once, not sure if it is really needed because of that :) Sliding doors are fine but for $6000 extra many people wouldn't mind to get out and close the doors for the youngest ones, plus 4yo need help to do her seat belt anyway. DVD is ok, but it is cheaper get all of them brand new iPads with movies and still keep bunch of money. The car has been into the shop once and it bothers me, to the point I've got Honda care extended warranty to 120K miles. VSA light came on and stuck like that after making a tight turn during city driving. Dealer just did a reset, didn't find anything wrong with it. After 60k miles it would be a $1000 ordeal to fix I bet, some "sensor replacement-adjustment", not "it is all good, we didn't find anything wrong and reset cleared it". Overall I still like it, however would go with LX probably to save the money. ------------- 3/2017 One year of owning the Odyssey, update. I have 22,000 miles on the odometer. Except that weird incident with VSA light no other isssues that required a visit to a shop. Overal MPG is about 23.4 combined. Usually my 25 miles trip to work deliveres 24.8-25.5 mpg with 65% hwy/35% city driving. We still like the Odyssey --------- 3/2018 Two years of owning the Odyssey. I'm at 39,000 miles now. The only negative thing to report is a rear door lock/push button that had to be replaced by Honda. That thing started driving me nuts, during cold freezing days it was not possible to open rear door (liftgate, hatch - whatever you call it). Apparently, the rubber seal inside of the button is not good enough and allows water to get into the button membranes. There is no other way to open the rear door, you have to press on that rubber button while holding proximity key 2-3' away. The issue was intermittent but I was lucky to have it once for Honda service people to see it, part and labor was around $500 for a small button covered by warranty. I have to call it a very poor design, Honda did a TSB for other years to replace that thing for free but not for 2016 (yet). Other than that the car is still great, tires are at 3/32 and need to replace soon. We still love our Odyssey.
Research the vehicle value. Test drive, but don't purchase on the spot. Challenge the lowest price with an even lower price and send your offer to the dealership. Rule #1: Best prices will be found at high volume dealers. Dealerships with low inventory have to make their profit off the customer, not incentives from the manufacturer. Don't believe the old line: You are asking me to sell my vehicle for less than I paid for it...how can I stay in business without a profit? Case in point: Every dealership I called was quoting $37,000+ drive out (list $38,900) and two said $35,700 was the lowest drive out price possible. One dealership, Honda of Conyers, knocked off over $7K the list price and sold me the van for $34,934 drive out with 1.9% financing for 4 years. The reason for them to deal was they received the van from another high volume dealership and it had sat on their lot for 60 days or more. According to Donald Trump (Art of the deal), any deal you can't walk away from is a deal your are too emotionally involved with to get a good deal (paraphrased). Case in point: I originally negotiated a purchase with a Honda dealership for $36,000 drive out and was sitting at the finance managers desk with $1500 cash and a certified cashiers check for $8500. The finance manager and subsequent sales manager told me their dealership had a "policy" against taking cashiers checks and told me I would have to cash the check and bring them the cash. I told them if they wouldn't take the check I was walking out...and they refused to waive their policy, and I walked. Praise God, because 5 days later Honda of Conyers agreed to sell me the same van for $1066 less and would have taken my cashiers check (but I had subsequently cashed it in preparation for a cleaner deal). Also, Internet sites like Edmunds and TruCar have their favorite dealerships, and don't actually give you access to all the possibilities. Most will only provide 1 or 2 dealership prices, not necessarily the lowest. In fact, Honda of Conyers was not mentioned by either site and they were the lowest. Good luck and be that educated consumer!
After loving my 2005 Odyssey for almost 12 years I decided it was time to update. I didn't put a lot of time into research because I knew what I wanted. Well you know what they say about 'assuming'. I assumed that the new Odyssey would be as good if not better than my last version; I was unfortunately wrong. First, the only way I could get both Navi & Rear Entertainment is to upgrade to a Touring; even though that combination used to be available on the EX-L. Fine, I can upgrade. I will start with the changes I find inconvenient. There are at least 4 cup holders missing; 2 in the front that used to pop down from bottom of the dash and the two on the sides of 2nd row seats. There is no good spot for kids in the second row to put their drinks. The tray on the center console is very shallow; it is not even deep enough to hold a stack of mail. There is a large storage box in the center console now, but it is so deep it is not realistic to go digging in there while you are driving; and to open it up means you can't store anything on the top tray. There is now only one glove box, rather than two; I found the little glove box was just right for registration and insurance cards, now just throw them in the big hole. The hidden compartment in the floor of the second row is now gone. With the old version of the rear entertainment system, it was one button push to control it from the front; that is not the case in the new version. The entire menu / control system is very difficult to use; no longer a quick touch but now you must dial and toggle and dial some more, and then go find the button to push. Fortunately my kids are now big enough to control it from the back but I don't think it would be doable with younger children (which surprisingly was the big selling point over the Toyota when I bought my first one). It is nice to be able to synch your phone and you can even voice tag your most used contacts. Only problem is that the voice tags don't seem to work, it actually brings up every person with a J in their name except for the one I want, even though that person is my number one favorite. Now for the more serious concerns. The windshield had a very bad distortion, so much so that I had a headache the entire day after I drove it to work. Imagine wearing someone else's glasses or looking through a fish bowl; that was the effect. Every person I had get in the driver seat saw it (except those at the dealer). Now today, the first time I use the windshield wipers because it rained, the passenger side wiper arm pops off while I am driving. I have only had the car for about 10 days, but if this an indication of Honda's quality I am concerned.
If car manufacturers are going to bombard interiors with standard electronics, the performance of infotainment systems will be a large part of my review. As such, the Honda Infotainment system in my 2016 Odyssey seems to be 5-6 years behind what I would expect in a new vehicle today. There is a wonderful wide screen on the dash and a touch screen lower down. When you test drive you are thinking, wow! that is pretty cool. But, you can only try so much of the Infotainment system on a test drive. So, after purchase when you sync your phone to your new van and realize, wait!....no Android Auto availability! It is available in other 2016 Honda offerings, but missing in the 2016 Odyssey. So the cool wide screen display on the dash is kind of worthless other than showing the Pandora song that is playing, or your trip computer information. So...overall the electronics are flashy but near worthless. Overall, the controls of the Odyssey Infotainment are clunky, slow to respond, and require far too much "eyes off the road" time. This is my second Odyssey, so other things I've noticed are.....this van has much more road noise than my 2008 Odyssey. Dealer on the test drive suggested to turn up the radio....LOL. Also, the body quarter-panels and hood on this appear to be plastic or some other non-metal material and probably contributes to the added road noise. Cabin body panels are still metal. Overall, though, it still has good interior utility, decent interior materials (far better than the Sienna which I looked very closely at.) I like the drive and seat comfort of my 2016 Odyssey compared to my 2008. Overall, I'm not disappointed in my purchase....it is still a great family mover. I'm just disappointed/disenchanted that the electronics are so prevalent in the dash, but seriously lacking in useful functionality.
Almost ideal minivan falls short on driver comfort
written on 06-15-2016
EX 4dr Minivan (3.5L 6cyl 6A)
After about a month of daily use, I have only two complaints about the 2016 Odyssey EX. First, there is very little legroom for the driver's left leg. Because of the front cabin shape and wheel well placement, it's impossible to stretch out the left leg while driving. I'm comparing this to my previous car, a Honda Accord; I haven't driven any other minivans, so I don't know whether the Toyota Sienna, for instance, is more comfortable for the driver. This may sound minor, but it's making me dread my upcoming cross-country move, during which my leg will be bent at an unpleasant angle for 9+ hours each day. The second complaint is about the entertainment/information panels. My last car was a 1998, so I can't compare this to its modern peers, but the all-digital interface makes me pine for the days of physical knobs controlling simple things like balance and tone. I can't navigate through multiple menu screens while driving, just to control the bass or the balance. And overall, I find the computer controls to be un-intuitive.