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Matrix Transmission Problems
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Re: This is the last Toyota for us. [psknapp]
i have a 2005 matrix i bouth it wit 84000 miles on it and have had no problems wit it it now has over 210,000 miles on it and sill have had no problems wit it or the tranny. and sill have no lights on over all this has been a good car for me
Toyota Matrix Tire/Wheel Questions
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My own two cents on the Matrix tire issue.
My 2005 Matrix, purchased new in 2005, shares this problem. The original tires were spent at about 31000 miles in the third year. The dealer had the same line that these stock Continental tires just don't last. The car has been reliable overall, so I didn't give it much more of a thought. I purchased a pretty expensive set of Sumitomo tires to replace the originals. In the past couple of ... Read More
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Re: PROBLEM SOLVED, APPARENTLY [peter1118]
My mechanic, who was a Toyota mechanic for 20 years before he opened his own shop, told me the cupping wear is not camber, alignment or any other mechanical issue. He said any of that will not really solve the problem, Toyota is very much aware of the issue and won't do a thing about it. I'm getting ready to change the rims on my Matrix 2005 with the hopes it ... Read More
Matrix Transmission Problems
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Matrix Manual Transmission Problems
First, the Matrix is a Toyota product. The Vibe was the rebadging. My 2005 5-speed was built in Canada. The transmission is outsourced, however. Aisin, I believe. Now, here is a warning for those who have not had trouble: Don't continue to drive until the tranny self-destructs. This will cost you $3000+. When you first hear a strange sound-like a muffled rattle, get the transmission repaired. I did this with a ... Read More
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Re: It can happen again [gnash]
Interesting comment. However, I believe the Matrix transmission is outsourced. The supplier installed marginal bearings not for less weight, but for lower cost. The vendor gets to pocket the cost savings which will amount to many thousands of dollars over the years he gets away with it. The transmission was "redesigned" for my 2005, but the bearings were still marginal. As mentioned previously, mine let go at 117k miles. The replaced ... Read More
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This is the last Toyota for us.
We have a 2003 Matrix XR with a manual transmission. Up until this past week, it's been great and I'd always say (when people asked if I liked it), "I'd buy it again, knowing what I know now." Then at a hair under 100k, the transmission goes. And then we find all these accounts of exactly the same thing happening to 2003 (and, to a lesser degree, 2004) Matrix pointing to ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Brake Questions
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Re: Toyota Matrix 2005 ABS Grindindg Noise Brakes [RavenMesa]
Like I was explaining to "mw20" there is nothing wrong about the noise that you are hearing. It's totally normal. I've been hearing that noise since 1991 when applying the brakes on every vehicle I've owned, every time I apply the brakes on a icy or snow covered surface and even on dry or wet surface every time the brakes are applied hard I hear that (grinding/humming or ever) sound that ... Read More
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Re: Toyota Matrix 2005 ABS Grindindg Noise Brakes [mw20]
mw20, You are the first person who has adequately described the awful ABS brake noise I get with my 2008 Matrix. I've tried to describe it here but no one seemed to believe me or thought I was exaggerating. I too have been told this noise is "normal" both by people in this forum and by others. It may be "normal" but it should not be acceptable! I think Toyota trying ... Read More
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Re: Toyota Matrix 2005 ABS Grindindg Noise Brakes [mw20]
I don't own a Matrix but plan to buy one in the near future, that's why I come here often. In the past all my vehicles that had ABS system made a funny sound (grinding noise) or other sound depending on the model. Those where a 1991 GMC Safari, the sound resemble a mooing cow, I called my Safari "my big cow" because of this, it was my first with ABS, ... Read More
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Re: Toyota Matrix 2005 ABS Grindindg Noise Brakes [chailes]
My 2009 toyota matrix has an awful grinding noise when brakes applied in snowy, icy conditions. It sounds like throwing it into reverse while going 40 mph down to road. I rode with my local technician a very short distance and applied brake going only 10 mph and the horrible grinding noise was there. He told me that the grinding,slamming sound was normal not to worry about it. He said all ... Read More
Matrix Transmission Problems
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Bad throw-out bearing? '05 Matrix
Hey all. I bought my Matrix around two years ago almost new (11k miles). Now it has around 43K miles and the last few months my transmission has been showing increasing symptoms of unwellness. At first, the clutch just felt a bit mushy, and to what extent this feeling was real vs. my paranoia I do not know. However, now it is hard to shift gears any time the engine is ... Read More
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TOYOTA MATRIX TRANSMISSION BREAK DOWN
I just noticed rough jerky, shifting with my 2005 Tyota Matrix 4 speed automatic yesterday for the first time. Checked transmission fluid level stick immediately, but I found full level and clean color. Today I searched the internet and I found numerous notes with Matrix transmission problems. I will have the car inspected tomorrow but I'm not sure if I should go to my Toyota dealer or my independent mechanic. My ... Read More
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Re: failed transmission @ 113k [burkes_r_mad]
I just noticed rough jerky, shifting with my 2005 Tyota Matrix 4 speed automatic yesterday for the first time. Checked transmission fluid level stick immediately, but I found full level and clean color. Today I searched the internet and I found your notes with Matrix transmission problems. I will have the car inspected tomorrow but I'm not sure if I should go to my Toyota dealer or my independent mechanic. My ... Read More
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Re: Matrix 2003 XR Converting Manual to Automatic? [hiddot84]
it seems to me that Toyota gave you one of the trannys from the bad lot of bearings they received, in speaking with a transmission shop here in southern california they said that they use rebuild kits that are not toyota original parts and should hold up better. if you have another new transmission you might be able to find out when it was manufactured and if it was after 2005 ... Read More
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Has the transmission problem been resolved?
Just bought 2009 Matrix - while I did research BEFORE I spent the money, I didn't catch this forum - I relied on the mainstream stuff (Consumer Reports, etc.). Man, I wish I had found this forum instead. Bottom line, I spent more than I could really afford, cut all other expenses, etc, just so I could have a reliable and safe car to help out with my grandkids. All that ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Brake Questions
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Re: Toyota Matrix 2005 ABS Grindindg Noise Brakes [chailes]
Is this your first experience with ABS? ABS should kick in if you are skidding. There is pulsating, and you should hear a grinding sort of noise. Take a technician for a ride and put the car into an intentional skid. See if he/she says it's normal.
Toyota Matrix Tire/Wheel Questions
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so whats the final answer for matrix?
I purchased a 2005 Matrix at the beginning of 2006, with 20,000 miles on it. The dealership had put new tires on it when I bought the car. I drove it till 54,000 miles and needed to replace the tires, now it has 70,000 miles and it needs tires again. I bought Pirelli's and made the tire shop take them off because of the rough ride, they put Mastercraft on it ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Brake Questions
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Toyota Matrix 2005 ABS Grindindg Noise Brakes
We have a 2005 Toyota Matrix and the ABS brakes have a terrible grinding noise which the dealer says is normal as the brakes have to pulsate and consquently a noise. However this is an excessive noise that grinds when the brakes are applied during snowy or icy conditions. Any suggestions to fix the problem. Charles
Toyota Matrix Lease Questions
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2009 Matrix S AWD 36mo/12K lease numbers
I just leased a 2009 Matrix S today (10/31/08). 36mo/12K per year. This was from Walser Toyota-a pretty well-known 'fixed price/no negotiation' dealership chain here in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Here is how the car is equipped: 2009 Toyota Matrix S 4dr Hatchback AWD (2.4L 4cyl 4A) MSRP / Invoice Base Price 20,400 (Edmunds has base price $100 higher) SR Power Tilt and Slide Moonroof $890 $712 AA 17" Aluminum Alloy ... Read More
All-New 2009 Toyota Matrix
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Re: Matrix sidetrack [mantech]
since you Canadians get to build most of the Vibes/Matrixes/Corollas it would seem that you are getting some model choices not available down here in the States - heck even the 'luxury' Corolla XLE is sold with the new 1.8. The new CVVTi that Toyota is using is a genuinely good thing IMO, developed first in the 2GR V6 in 2005, it has allowed that engine to lead its class in ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Tire/Wheel Questions
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Cancel my purchase of a 05 Matrix
I was going to buy a 2005 Matrix that I saw today but after reading this thread I have decided not to buy the car. When I saw the car today the people told me they had rotated the tires. I happened to notice some unusual wear on the front tires which means these had been in the back. This vehicle is a fwd but I don't trust the car. I ... Read More
Matrix Transmission Problems
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Toyota Matrix Automatic transmission failure
I bought my 2005 Matrix with an AUTOMATIC transmission and only 45,000 miles on it on June 9th. It's back at the dealer for the 3rd time in 2 weeks. The first 2 fixes didn't work, so now they're putting in a 'brand new transmission'. I'm just sick over this. This is the newest and most expensive car I've ever purchased, and I've NEVER had these kinds of problems with my ... Read More
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Re: 03 Matrix 140,000km [jamesimcb]
Alright, I have have heard enough!! I have been on this website for over a year listening to all the complaints about the Toyota Matrix between 2003 - 2005. Is anybody willing to do anything about it???? I go to Japan every year and I can tell you that if the President's of Toyota in Japan knew what was happening in Canada they would be totally ashamed of what is happening. ... Read More
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Re: 03 Matrix 140,000km [gmore]
No custom bearing is needed. There is a updated kit. The problem is a defective main bearing from Japan. Not sure where the revised kit bearing comes from. My personal opinion is that Toyota will not do anything. The 5 speed transmission is probably only 10-15% of all of the Toyota Matrix on the road. I have heard of some going up to 200K before failure. As it only affects a ... Read More
Toyota Matrix
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Is the cargo area the same as in year's past?
I have a 2009 Toyota Matrix S and I was wondering if the cargo area (ie: rear seats folded down, measurement between the tops of the rear seats to the very back of the cargo area as well as width) would be the same as in years past. No one I have spoken with knows and I'd like to find a nice carpeted cargo mat to fit when the seats are ... Read More
New Toyota Matrix Owners: Give Us Your Report!
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Re: New Toyota Matrix Owners: Give Us Your Report! [pf_flyer]
I bought this red matrix a month ago , nice auto. A little expensive i think i got an xr no abs brakes and everything is extra. Ok so i like the auto for its great gas mileage and ability to turn hatchback quick and easy. I returned to dealer 3 times to repair hood prop it keeps coming out of fender well the clip breaks often. gas mi abt 25-27 ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Tire/Wheel Questions
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Matrix 2005 - basic model / tire wear
This has been a very interesting discussion thread. I have the same issue - 23K miles and already have gone through the set of original tires. I did all the regular maintenance and it did not appear to help. I have an appointment with the dealer tomorrow. After getting the tires replaced and after about 3K miles, I'm stating to hear a dull "rumbling" noise in the front right. Sounds like ... Read More
Matrix Transmission Problems
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Should I get the aftermarket warranty?
I just bought a 2005 Matrix XR FWD, automatic yesterday. I have the option of buying an aftermarket warranty from Great Lakes Warranty Company. Cost is $1300 for 4 yrs, unlimited mileage. It isn't quite bumper-to-bumper, but it's close. I wasn't going to do it because I bought a Toyota! They are supposed to be as good as my old beater Hondas that I've driven to 200K miles and never had ... Read More
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2003 Matrix Manual Transmission
I just had my manaul transmission completely fail halfway home from Boston to Halifax. The car had to be towed back to Canada and left at a Toyota dealer in Fredericton. Needs a new transmission due to a failed bearing. It's 5.5y old with 80K. I serviced it on schedule at Toyota and they have only agreed to cover 60%. Is the new transmission they put in going to be like ... Read More
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2003 Matrix Manual Transmission
My mechanic told me that the growl from my 2003 Matrix XR at 132,000km was a transmission bearing. After finding out through these posts that 2003 and 2004 Matrix do indeed have a problem, I found out from a Toyota mechanic that the bearings had been upgraded on 2005 models onwards. Armed with a printout of these posts, my service records stating that the fluid had been changed per the service ... Read More
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no more Toyotas for me
Well. I posted that I'd like to get rid of my Matrix with its brand new transmission at 83K km... and I did! Sold a base model 2003 for $9300 to a guy who is convinced that Toyotas are great cars and he isn't worried about the transmission. I now have a brand new 2008 Honda Fit LX ... AND am getting $1000 from Transport Canada from the EcoAuto rebate. After ... Read More
Article Comments - 2009 Toyota Matrix XRS First Drive
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Re: 2009 Matrix Market Data Flawed! [observer999]
I totally agree but for different reasons. I have 2005 XRS and looked at all the competitors before buying the Matrix. The Mazda 3?! Please! I'm 6'3" and couldn't fit. I drive primarily city, in San Francisco and drive a 6 speed on the hills. The Matrix blows everything else out of the water..stop light to stop light. As far a versatilty..the flat folding seats are phenominal! Need to haul that ... Read More
All-New 2009 Toyota Matrix
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Re: Partnership not Parted Re: Liftglass? [moparbad]
Well of course, there was the TSB and later production change to the twilight sensor in the Matrix that the Vibe never got (headlights flicking on and off every time you went under a tree, it was really annoying in the early Matrixes, thank goodness Toyota offered a fix). Toyota updated the internals of the manual transmissions in 2005 after there began to be reports of premature failures. Indeed, some of ... Read More
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Re: Liftglass? [longleg]
I thought they parted ways after 2005, each taking over the evolution of their own version of the platform? If so, then stuff like the liftglass could easily be different between Vibe and Matrix. And given the fact that Toyota has just introduced liftglass on the Highlander, I can't imagine they would remove it from the Matrix for the redo.
Matrix Transmission Problems
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Re: 2004 Matrix ManualTransmission = DEAD @ 64K [kiawah]
By the way, the repair bill for a new transmission is $5000. Luckily i only had to bay $2000 because I had mine serviced at Toyota and my dealer called Toyota Canada directly. The problem seems to exist only with 2003-4. The transmission and engine was changed for 2005. So if you want a Matrix get a 2005 or later and you may be ok. I probably still won't get one ... Read More
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Re: 2004 Matrix ManualTransmission = DEAD @ 64K [kiawah]
I don't know that ALL matrix's have this problem. It seems like the first few years do. We bought our 2004 in 2003, not being a car designer, I don't know what those differences would include. I didn't see any such posts on 2005 and forward. I must say that the car was great in all other respects...we actually were able to get an apartment sized refrigerator in the thing, so ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Tire/Wheel Questions
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Re: Toyota Matrix Tire Wear [remaxmarty1]
My girlfriend just had her 2005 Matrix XRS serviced for oil change and tire/brake check this past weekend at our friend's shop. Our friend noticed the abnormal tire wear at the inner side of the 3 tires except the rear-right one. He explained that alignment is not the cause (we've had the dealer checked the alignment before). He suggested us to take the car back to the dealer and ask for ... Read More
Toyota Matrix.... Pre purchase research
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Re: Toyota Matrix.... Pre purchase research [suydam]
I do think that the Honda Fit is a good choice (I have had nothing but Honda Motorcycles over the last 20 years), but the model is too new to have a lot of them in the used pool. Same goes for the Nissan Versa. I am thinking that the Ford Focus would also be in the group of models competitive to the matrix. What other models fit that category that ... Read More
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Re: Toyota Matrix.... Pre purchase research [suydam]
Thanks.. What about the Mazda3 5 door? Also, when I go shopping; I would like to take a copy of the Kelley Blue Book with me, but I may not be able to get my hands on a current copy at the library (generally current issues are kept on hand as non circulation reference). Say I get a copy that is dated 2005; is there a general rule of thumb that ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Tire/Wheel Questions
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Re: Matrix tire wear [62hawk]
I have a 2005 Matrix 4WD XR. At 20,300 miles heard rumble at all speeds - orig. Conti. tires all worn on inner tread (nearest center of car - negative camber). Dealer did alignment last summer - said "needed slight toe adjustment on rear wheels only - not enough to cause tire uneven wear". - Hah!! Blamed tires.... Spoke w/ dealer again last week - requested new tires and alignment. Told ... Read More
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Toyota Matrix Tire/Wheel Questions
We have two 2005 Matrixes with Continental tires and both sets were replaced at less than 15k with Yokohamas. With 35 to 40k on both cars, they seem to be doing fine. Thanks, Chris
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PROBLEM SOLVED, APPARENTLY
It appears that I have solved our problem with extreme tire wear on our 2006 Matrix!! Our car had similar tire wear problems to those widely reported on this and other websites. A new set of Continentals were destroyed by misalignment in less than 15,000 miles. The tires were rotated four times, realigned and checked by a Toyota Dealership, but Toyota was unable or unwilling to correct the problem. Our 2006 ... Read More
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Re: 2005 Matrix XR FWD with bad tires :( in Southern California [moos]
Hey Gasman....I had a feeling it was Something related to the way the car is being built/designed. It's just ridiculus for So Many tires to be tearing off all these Matrix. I love the look/style of it but, that sure doesn't keep tires on. I am about ready to sell it...not even 18K on it yet, on 2nd set of tires and due for another rotate/oil service in days. No other ... Read More
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Re: 2005 Matrix XR FWD with bad tires :( in Southern California [gasman1]
Just a not...look back on my posts then go to the pontiac vibe section.This is NOT a tire problem it is a design flaw. They can't align the rear and that is what is happening I have had 4 sets of tires...the Continentals it came with , a se of Yokohomas then they put in a new rear beam, then another set of Yokohama's and then my snows. ALL 4 sets ... Read More
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Re: 2005 Matrix XR FWD with bad tires :( in Southern California [jhershman]
If only I were the wizened wizard... Hopefully, someone else will have the answer to your question. IMO it's to late for free tires/alignment unless Toyota were to issue a TSB or recall. I'm not in the car or tire business. However, I do have advice for all in purchasing their next new vehicle. It's rare for most manufacturers to place premium tires on their vehicles. They build vehicles with the ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Handling & Suspension Questions
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Bumpy Ride
I am new to Toyotas and to the Matrix. I recently purchased a 2005 Matrix with 27,000 miles. The handling on side roads seems rough. The car jars and seems to take in every bump. It's a pretty rough ride overall. The tires are new Goodyear Triple Treds. Is the bumpy handling a characteristic of the Matrix? Or the tires? Other suggestions? Thanks.
Matrix Transmission Problems
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Re: 03 Matrix Transmission completely trashed @ 62K [mjustice11]
I have had an ongoing battle with Toyota Canada over my '03 Matrix after the manual transmission went at 108k (km) in Dec of 2005. A bearing needed replacing that cost me about $Cdn 1800 to repair, which was about $1500 labour. I failed to change the manual transmission fluid at 100K, which Toyota Canada said meant that the repair costs were all mine. They offered $300 to cover the parts ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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2007 Matrix XR options question
Hi all, I am looking at buying a 2007 Matrix XR and the toyota.com web site shows four major option packages for the XR (for SF bay area zip codes) Opt A: not a package at all Opt B: EVP#1 + 17-in aluminum wheels Opt C: ABS + EVP#1 + moonroof Opt D: ABS + side air bags + EVP#2 + 6-disc CD changer I would prefer a combo of "ABS ... Read More
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Re: Price: 2007 Matrix XR in California [rootsdr]
I recently made my purchase. I did own a 2002 Honda Civic EX Coupe 5spd. Loved the car and for 74,000 miles worry free. I sold it and bought a Certified Pre-Owned Matrix: 2005 Toyota Matrix XR AWD Black Pearl Metallic -6 disc in-dash CD changer -leather wrapped steering wheel -pwr. moonroof -XR body kit and fog lamps -16" alloy wheels -cargo mat -rear bumper protector I paid $18,000 for this ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Tire/Wheel Questions
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Re: 2006 Matrix XR - Same Issue [kurvan]
FYI: Tire wear (Matrix) humbug, Update on 2005 Matrix Tire Wear. Toyota blamed Continential Tires on our car too. Toyota replaced tires at approximately 7,000 miles W/ Goodyear Brand. Now we're at 14,000 plus miles and seems like we are having same trouble again. Not as bad yet but will have to wait for more wear to make up our mind for sure. These tires are starting to give off a ... Read More
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Re: Toyota Matrix Tire Wear [remaxmarty1]
Marty, We also have a 2005 Matrix and have had tire problems. At about 3000 miles we noticed the noise. We kept on going to see if it would get worse and it did. AT 6800 miles we took it to our dealer and they sent us to a Tire place. There they noticed the left front tire wearing very badly and the right front was starting - so he sent ... Read More
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Toyota Matrix Tire Wear
My 2005 Matrix has only 24,000 kms on it (15,000 miles) and, to the shock of my mechanic at a recent oil change, the inside tread on all four tires is worn right down. Excessive vibration now occurs at speeds above 60 mph. To make matters worse, I change to winter tires every winter, so these Continentals that came with the car have logged less than 16,000 kms (10,000 miles). My ... Read More
Toyota Matrix vs. Pontiac Vibe - Compare Notes
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Can I Install Matrix Center Console In Vibe?
Call me picky, crazy, what have you! I would like to know if it would be possible to replace the center console in my 2005 Vibe with one from a 2005 Matrix (ie A/C Control, Rear Defroster button, Clock)? Judging from the photos of the two, they seem pretty well matched. If I went to a Toyota dealership, would they do it? It would a great mod and certainly make my ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Brake Questions
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Brake Pedal, Creaking -anyone else have this issue?
Hi, I bought a 2005 Matrix XR in Dec 2004. Right after I drove it off the lot, the gas pedal started making a creaking sound when it was depressed. Think of like a sort of dry plastic sound. The next day I took it back to the dealership, they said the gas pedal wasn't properly lubricated on the assembly line.. and they properly lubricated it, and that has been the ... Read More
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Re: Matrix brakes [herzogtum71]
My Matrix is a 2005 (purchased in May, 2004) XR, AWD. I found it very disturbing that my brake problems happened very shortly after I had all four tires replaced (by the Toyota dealer). Ichecked with another mechanic who told me it was entirely possible that the lug nuts were overtightened when they replaced the tires, causing the rotors to warp. Toyota is denying any culpability, as usual. I am really ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Engine Questions
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idle hunting when cold on Matrix/Vibe/Corolla
Hello, this is a copy of my first post which I originally made in the Toyota Matrix sub-forum, and after I noticed how quickly it was buried by the large volume of new threads, I decided to repeat it here where the waters seem much calmer and it's more likely to be seen. If you have been a member of any of the following forums: matrixowners.com, genvibe.com, corolland.com, toyotanation.com, then you ... Read More
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idle hunting in matrix/vibe/corolla when cold
Hello, this is my first post. If you have been a member of any of the following forums: matrixowners.com, genvibe.com, corolland.com, toyotanation.com, then you may have already been made aware of an issue that has occurred in nearly 14% of Matrix/Vibe/Corolla owners (2003 model and up) according to my unscientific polls. Naturally 14% is an unrealistic high ratio since many owners without this problem are not members of internet forums or ... Read More
Toyota Matrix
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Help!!! Toyota Certified Matrix
Help...How do I know if my 2006 Matrix is a Toyota Certified Used Vehicle, or if the dealership just told me it was. Quick history - 9/15/2005 bought a 2006 Matrix that was returned to dealership w/in 20 days (legal in TX-had to be sold as used b/c of title already processed). I bought it b/c it was a TCUV. 5/4/06 - Hail damage in Austin, TX. Filed claim. Took it ... Read More
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Re: Base model vs. XR model [luvmbooty]
When I was looking to buy a Matrix a little over 1 year ago (2005 model) I too considered the Base Model vs. the XR. I ended up buying the XR because it had some standard equipment that's not even available on the Base model, such as: (1) color-keyed outside door handles and mirrors, (2) Power remote controlled outside mirrors, (3) 115V aux. power outlet, (4) fabric rear door trim, and ... Read More
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Re: 2005 matrix airconditiong [path4]
If the fuel mileage is so bad in the Matrix,then why did Edmunds recently rate it no.10 in their top ten fuel efficient cars? I've had my 03 5 speed XR for 4 years now,never got below 30 mpg and usually average 33-34 in the warmer months and have gotten 36 on long highway trips.I think people buy it with the auto and/or all wheel drive configurations and somehow expect to ... Read More
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Re: Finally some info on the '08 Matrix [mmyk72]
No significant changes between the 2005 and 2006.....we have one of each in red, as you described, but without antilock brakes. Gets heat within 3 or 4 blocks here in Dayton, OH even when it is in the teens and air is nice and cold in summer. No rattles or squeaks in first 6 months of ownership. Very well built. The only thing we can say even slightly negative is that ... Read More
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Re: 2005 matrix airconditiong [johnc19]
I must congratulate on your lucky Matrix. I also read someone's matrix could get 38mpg on highway. Mine is 2004 base 2WD with 19K miles now. Today I got a pathetic 26.4mpg for a 350 miles highway only trip. I know I am not alone, so I am not sure why people are telling vastly different stories. But, I will ask the guys at toyota to take a look at it. ... Read More
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Re: 2005 matrix airconditiong [path4]
As one other person pointed out, there is no V4 in the Camry. However, as a Matrix owner, I must disagree with your assertion that the Matrix is a "vehicle poorly made by Toyota." Since I purchased a 2005 XR 5-speed just over 1 year ago, the car has performed exactly as expected. It has needed nothing more than routine maintenance (oil changes and tire rotations) and gas mileage has been ... Read More
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Re: 2005 matrix airconditiong [joey0708]
If you care about gas price, you shouldn't buy Matrix. A V4 Camery is more fuel efficient. It sounds very strange, but it is the absolute truth. I have never got above 30mpg, mostly 28 on a long highway trip. It is probably because of wind resistence and 1.8L engine being too little. All in all, Matrix is a vehicle poorly made by toyota.
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Re: matrix side impact crash [joey0708]
Actually you can get side airbags in a Matrix that is not 4 wheel drive. Just over 1 year I ordered a 2005 front wheel drive Matrix XR 5-speed through my local dealer (Central Atlantic Region). My salesman first checked all dealers in the region for a vehicle that I liked (5-speed, ABS, and Side Airbags) and found none. It took approximately 7 weeks from the time my order was placed ... Read More
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Re: 2005 matrix airconditiong [joey0708]
Haven't you seen all the posts about the poor AC in Matrix ? It takes half an hour to cool down the cabin to 70F with the medium setting even the outside temp is 70. While under the same condition, a camery needs only 2-3 minutes. For local commute, I rarely use the AC. For a long trip on a nice day, I scroll down the window and turn the AC ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Base 2005 Matrix, Glendale Toyota, CA
We just bought a base model 2005 Matrix from Glendale Toyota, with power package (PO) and preferred options package (Z1) for $15791, and total price, including tax, license fees, etc, was $17316.
Toyota Matrix
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2006 Matrix special order - no moonroof? then no ABS for you!
I special ordered two months ago a 2006 Matrix (2WD XR model) with Vehicle Stability Control, ABS, and Option Package #1 (which does not include a moonroof). I need to stay away from the moonroof because the extra 1.7 inches of extra headroom is precious. I was contacted today by the dealer to tell me that there is no way that Toyota will make the setup I requested (despite it within ... Read More
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Re: Vibe/Matrix Roof Rack [pf_flyer]
steine13, "Toyota Matrix vs. Pontiac Vibe - Compare Notes" #227, 7 Nov 2005 6:22 pm done fixed it....
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Vibe/Matrix Roof Rack
Avoiding cross posts: steine13, "Toyota Matrix vs. Pontiac Vibe - Compare Notes" #226, 6 Nov 2005 9:44 pm -Mathias
Toyota Matrix Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Matrix price
I just got my 2005 base Matrix with automatic, power package, cruise, tinted windows and mats. for $14900. I live in south Florida and bought it from the internet department at Maroone Toyota in Weston.
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San Francisco Bay Area 2005 Matrix XR FWD
Bought yesterday. 2005 Matrix, Phantom Grey, XR FWD with: 1. QP 2- extra value package 2. ABS 3. Z1- carpet and cargo mat 4. side/ curtain bags 5. 6 CD changer 17833 (18333-500 rebate) before tax, license, etc. 19580 OTD. For some reason my dealer said he couldn't get me a car in Bay Area with VSC. What's up with that? Still went ahead and bought it. Thanks to everyone's price ... Read More
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Matrix buying experience in Northern Virginia
Thanks to all who have posted here--your comments helped me to make a decision about which car to buy. Ordered a 2005 Matrix XR 4spd Auto today, with Value Pkg #2, all-weather guard, side airbags, ABS, vehicle stability control, 6-disc CD, and mats from Leesburg Toyota. Edmunds Invoice price was $18,684, TMV: $19,294. I got it for $19,191, with a final total of $20,148. I had to order the car because ... Read More
Toyota Matrix
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Question about difference in safety ratings
We are considering buying a 2006 Toyota Matrix, but I am puzzled by the difference in safety ratings from the 2003-04 years and the 2005-06 years. The earlier models have a better safety rating than the more recent ones. (5 star vs 4 star for the passenger in the frontal star rating and 5 star vs 3 star for the front seat for the side star rating) I have been told ... Read More
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Re: Concern: Very High Injury Loss for Matrix [jpmccormac]
Just what is the Highway Loss Data Institute measuring in this study? I just did a quick Google search with the keywords "crash test" and "Toyota Matrix" and discovered that at least the 2005 Matrix fares pretty well in crash tests. (Some of the sites that come up are competing forums, so I unfortunately can't list them here. You'll need to do this search for yourself.) The previous post's point is ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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2005 Matrix XR -- Portland, OR
I sincerely thank you for all your posts and such. I can't say enough good things about you and about this web site. It was a fabulous help in this car buying process. We just picked up a 2005 Matrix XR with FE, BE, CK, EV, AB, QP, and Z1 through the internet department at Gresham Toyota. We paid $18,704 OTD (about $150 less than TMV from edmunds.com), including TT&L (no ... Read More
Toyota Matrix
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no title
A writer with a national magazine is writing an article on 8 cars that are under $20K for families on a budget or as a 2nd or 3rd car. He is looking for parents with young children who have recently purchased or are planning to purchase any one of the following vehicles: VW Jetta the new “Value Edition”, Chevy Cobalt (with SAB), Mitsubishi Galant, Toyota Matrix, Pontiac Vibe, Ford Focus Wagon, ... Read More
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Matrix Hard Starting
A friend of mine (not me), recently bought a 2005 Matrix and appears to be having problems at random intervals starting the vehicle. Apparently it will take a good 30 seconds and several tries to start the car. I have warned him about keys flopped over the engine immobilzer key, asked about cold/hot engine conditions etc., and there appears to be no pattern to it. I was wondering if anyone else ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Matrix 2005 XR auto invoice
Lets stop quoting over invoice since it seems to vary by dealership. They don't include holdback, dealer incentives, etc. XR 2wd Auto I was quoted a drive off price of 17,671 (6 % tax included) but it's via email. The car has the value package 1 and 6cd changer. Nothing else. I'm in North Florida. When I show the dealers the consumer's reports wholesale price, the dealers in the SE states ... Read More
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Colorado Price
John Elway Toyota 2005 Toyota Matrix AWD Auto -power package -cruise control -msrp$18,700 Paid $18,000 (tax included) Just let you guys know Matrix is a slow car but TRDUSA makes a supercharger (40+more HP) for about $1,000 (installation not included)
Toyota Matrix
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Floor Mats?
Earlier this week bought a 2005 Matrix XR, and so far we love it. I was planning to get the floor mats, but they didn't have any in stock. Before I go find the Toyota Matrix mats, are there any mats others have found that fit and work well in the Matrix? Thanks. Mark
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Deals
Thanks herzogtum and pet1. Makes the case for the Matrix even stronger. The Matrix 4WD is about $24 K in Canada plus tax (15%). I just visited a GM lot near my office at lunch and they have new 2005 two door Jimmies (4.3 L Vortec V6, auto, air etc) for $19 K plus , freight and tax. You could get a real SUV (albeit the last in the line) ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Just bought a 2005 Matrix XR
Hope that this info helps someone. Bought: 2005 Matrix XR 2WD Automatic QP Package Floor Mats $17,200 + TTL $18,910 including TTL (Tax 9%) $185 Gap Insurance $19,095 Out the Door Financed through Toyota at 4.4% for 60 months.
Toyota Matrix
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nippon
Still missing your Trix, I see :) just j/k of course.... In 2005, it will appear that I'll be trading out of my Matrix for a 330ci. Had an unforgettable drive in a friend's 330ci recently, and cannot get over it. It is definitely a keeper for me - the Bimmer of course. After being a huge Toyota/Lexus-ophile for years, I'll be buying my first German car, and only the 3-series ... Read More
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Re: Factory ordering a Matrix [gsocat]
I wish you better luck than I had with trying to special order a Matrix. After researching several vehicles for over 1 1/2 years for the specifications, equipment, and reliability I desired I wasted nearly 2 months with a dealership who just wouldn't be honest with me about supposedly putting in a special order for Extra Value Package #2 (QP) plus side airbags (BE) on a 2004 Matrix XR FWD. All ... Read More
Toyota Matrix Test Drive: What Did You Think?
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2005 side airbag system
my wife and I are looking at the matrix to buy and want to find out the safety factors in having our baby in the back seat with the 2005 side airbag system. the dealer (or toyota ?) has no recomendation as to whether or not a baby should be in the back with the side airbag system on. the new side airbag system extends from the front to the back ... Read More
Toyota Matrix
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2005
They changed the interior a bit as well. The passenger seatbelt light has been replaced with a clock. The rear defrost button was moved to the dead button to the left of the radio. The radio is now a Toyota radio, no longer GM. This also means no more navigation system Matrix will be made. They have a new sound system with an integrated subwoofer option as well. On the safety ... Read More
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2005 Changes
Just returned from the Canadian Intl Autoshow and they had a 2005 "Prototype" Matrix XR on display with a few changes compared to the 03-04. The grill is slightly different, the honeycomb look is broken up by a solid line in the middle (don't like it), the fog/driving lights are now closer to the edges of the newly designed front bumper (similar to the Vibes) as opposed to the current design ... Read More
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mikus
Here are my bets, in order of priority: 1) AWD comes with bigger motor and manual tranny as standard equipment by 2005 2) Base Matrix remains with the 1.8L Corolla engine, but upped in hp a tad (maybe 10% more hp and torque) 3) XR gets the bigger motor on the AWD trim as an option. Base 1.8L engine remains standard. 4) XRS trim gets upped low-end torque with a bigger ... Read More
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Bets anyone?
Hurler, yes, what I meant was fake carbon, it is easier to get, because of the demand. Some think it looks cooler than fake aluminum and it should be definitely more scratch-resistant. But I do not see why someone would not make more traditionally looking panels. The only question is, does demand for such a panel would justify the production? Do not think so :( Now, anyone in the mood for ... Read More
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