Used 2009 Dodge Grand Caravan Consumer Reviews
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Horrible , never again
Had an 02, loved it. This 09 is a piece of do doo. Chewing up front tires like crazy, alignment issues, steering issues. Car drifts and moves side to side (cant even explain, its something you have to feel ) steering wheel moves on its own over not smooth road, bumps railroad tracks, etc. Car flexes bad by the sliding doors. Even had transmission experiences and the radio tuning all by itself. All dealers say they don't see any issue, and one said the steering wheel moves to compensate for the road? Personally, I think they know it's messed up and won't admit. So going the lemon route after I hear back from Chrysler! Gas mileage is horrible.
NO MAS!
We tried to love it, but just couldn't deal with the dealer (white Bear lake, Mn) who guessed on every repaired needed. Long story short, we bought the van used. clean carfax. great the first week. second week was a disaster. van would die 3-5 times daily was exiting the hwy. while operating at 30mph the van would become very sluggish, then die when coming to a stop. replaced spark plugs, MAP sensor, throttle body didn't change a thing. brought in to the dealer to figure it out. diagnosed that the WIN module was faulty and needed to be replaced.(not part of the recall) asked why its sluggish, dealer didn't know. finally just gave up and traded it in for a Honda. People be advised, stay away!
- C/V Cargo MinivanMSRP: $4,300267 mi away
- SE Passenger MinivanMSRP: $3,991282 mi away
- SE Passenger MinivanMSRP: $8,998308 mi away
Frustrated!
As an owner of a 1999 Plymouth Voyager van with 360,000 +miles, and very pleased with the quality, THIS 2009 Dodge Grand Caravan is a piece of JUNK. The brakes need rebuilt every 10-15k miles (with rotors and calipers being replaced at various intervals. The air conditioning condensate pan does not drain and fills up with water and damages the fan so it needs replaced. The van does "walk" all over the road (not fun to drive) and wears out GOOD tires. The interior back seat plastic coverings fall off. The passenger door wiring is breaking in the tracks (cheap wire). Other than that, OH, now there is a "growling" noise in the front end (bearing?). I Won't buy another Dodge van!.
200K update/4.0 engine
Update! AC issues that are hard to pinpoint. Removed dash and replaced AC core and hoses. Relay assembly under the hood was replaced. Still not cold like it was. Dealer did not do timing belt assembly as instructed at 100K. At 130K the tension assembly broke. Durning the fix we discovered the dealer faked the whole belt change after being told to R&R everything (water pump, tension assembly and belt). Local dealer screwed us out of our lifetime warranty by refusing to do the 5 year inspection on one van and failing to admit they did it on another. Very dishonest practices. Really enjoyed the van when new but the start issues have plagued this vehicle for years and numerous recalls. Plan on new tires every 25k (buy cheap tires) and brake pads on a regular basis. Bought two and one has had transmission issues since new. Solid 4.0 so far. Weak radiator connection points and will never buy another Dodge product although I like the way the drive. Toyota is more dependable, and they actually fix their recalls properly. Bought the extended warranty and needed it bad. Company dishonored the extended warranty--- Class action lawsuit on-going. Company is a group of thieves! Do not buy their nice-looking products. Looks are not everything in life. Start issue was fixed with a neutral switch replacement on transmission
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I wish I could recommend it... but I can't
Bought the 3.8L SXT version, only have 33k on it. Having the transmission rebuilt right now. My wife drives this van around our small town, and we take weekend trips. It's well taken care of. We've had to have ALL the brakes replaced three times now, the tires are pretty much shot because of the brake problems, and there is a bad motor mount, and now the transmission. The engine is great, and the features and interior are phenomenal, but with the brake problems and now the transmission, clearly the build quality leaves much to be desired. That's why a Toyota is 20k more...
#Knewbetter on 09 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT 4.0L
Bought used 2009 only a few months ago with less than 100K; looks great, but not reliable. Has developed a serious electrical problem, besides three EGR valves in three months also (OEM Chrsyler part, mucho $$, MUST be used in EGR replacement); had the WIN Fob Chrysler recall work completed shortly after purchase also and since then vehicle has had difficulty starting; has stranded my wife more times than I can count in past few months. Replaced the battery and starter, didn't help. No one knows what it is and I refuse to replace TIPM while "fishing" for electrical problems. Blogs seem to point towards Neutral Safety Switch, but its "fishing" again. Fishing becomes expensive when Chrsyler can't pinpoint its electrical problems. Sometimes it will start if you shift to Neutral, sometimes it won't. Van looks great, but it is not reliable for family transportation certainly. 2nd Row Sliding Door wiring harness recall was ineffective, have wiring frayed and broken and a sliding door that no longer opens or windows the rolls up or down with Fob. Radio is now locking up and turning itself off and on. Think twice before biting... price might be affordable for a reason because your going to make your local mechanic very happy with all the service you'll give him. Had a 99 Dodge Caravan and drove it for 5 years with no problems, loved it; this one, not so much. Look elsewhere unless you are a mechanic or have a good friend who is a mechanic. I tried to save money in this purchase, I've not and now it has become a burden; the question every trip is, will we make it to our appointment on time or even at all? Its been an emotional roller coaster not knowing when its going to start or not and of course, each time it gets to service via TOW... it starts. I think there might be a Gremlin in their electrical system. Stay clear unless you have time and money to waste, your salesman doesn't have to drive it everywhere, you do and with your kids inside too.
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Family Hauler
We have the 4.0 engine and it performs great. This van is the only way to travel with your family. However, Dodge needs to get some thing right. The brake rotors started going bad at 15,000 miles and Dodge would not honor the warranty. They wanted $100 to fix their problem. Next, the Bridgestone tires on the van are garbage (nearly worn out at 20,000 miles). The air conditioner fan motor goes out after a while (however it will work after stopping the van and restarting a short while later). The radio conked out in the first year. A good vehicle with some minor changes would be a great vehicle. Dodge needs to step up and cover their mistakes.
Best of mini vans as good as Chevy subs
Replacing a 92 Caravan. Only a few hundred miles and cannot truly say about reliability. My two previous Dodge minivans were excellent. This one is as close to the Chevy Surburbans that I owned in the70s and 80s with much better mpg. Stow and go is very handy. Wife says the seats are a bit hard bit I disagree. The interior lighting is not what I would want, too dim. Handling is excellent. Fit and finish is excellent. My dealership is one of the best. I bought it off the lot and if I had speced it out I would have left off some of the features and maybe added a few. Price was better than the imports and quality better too. Not sure I like the keyless switch but time will tell.
My fifth Dodge/Chrysler minivan
Bought this van before the 'Clunker Program', but got a great deal anyways. Wanted a 4.0, but could not find one in the color wife wanted. The 3.8L does fine, it's what I had in my other 4 minivans (2 97's, 98, 2000). Finally getting used to the no key and in-dash shifter. The van has plenty of power, the 3.8 is more than sufficient with the 6 speed. Thought I'd get a little better gas mileage with the 4.0L, but getting 16 with the 3.8L (1100 miles)in mixed driving, but city has lots of stop and go. We're in Texas, so the A/C has never been off yet, maybe in Dec we'll see the MPG go up some. First time I've had to actually read the manual to find out how a lot of the features work!
For the $ nothing better
I would go out and get one right now. Dealerships are clearing out inventory and looking to get out of these vehicles. I bought a sticker price 32,895 for 21,500. It has almost all of the gadgets and has been a joy to drive. I have owned vans from 2 other car companies and I am trying to figure out why I waited to look at Dodge as a viable option. If you are in the market for a van go check them out, you won't be sorry
Best bang for your buck
I mainly purchased this vehicle for spacious cargo and also ability to haul 7 people. Car looks nice as well. Of course, generous incentives helped as well. So far, the vehicle is top notch, no complains. Drove on a highway and averaged 26mpg, about 18.5mpg in the city. Though, several things I wish this car would have: daytime running lights (even my old Astro had it), interior lights can only be lit up all at once. Basic engine is somewhat weak but I did not purchase this to win races. Cheesy green light readouts, it is time to join 21st century. No instant mpg, too bad. Seats fold into the floor: excellent idea. Go get one today!
2009 Grand Caravan, Wow!
Love to drive this vehicle. This is the most usefull vehicle I have ever owned. My wife and I replaced our truck with this van and now we have the best of both worlds. The 4.0 V6 has plenty of power and the 6 speed automatic is smooth as silk. We have grown to appreciate a quit ride as we've gotten older and this van delivers.
Not sure why the reviews are poor
This is a beautiful vehicle inside and out. I don't see the "seams not lining up" or other problems listed in the other reviews. Seats are a little hard in back but we test drove Kia, Honda, Toyota and they were similar. Handling is responsive and the vehicle has a very nice feel -- solid but nimble. Nice tight turning radius. Ours has the rearview camera which is indispensible and should be on every car. Very quiet on the highway. The DVD with wireless headsets are awesome. This vehicle has a lot of space and great fuel economy for a larger van.
Not as bad as Edmunds makes out to be.
I have the 4.0 liter engine, plenty of pep. Using auto-stick makes for spirited accelerations if needed. Edmunds says the rear seats are uncomfortable, they're nothing compared to a Tahoe which we traded for this vehicle. Interior space is also much better organized then the Tahoe. Interior is typical Dodge though, hard angler plastics. Bought this van because wife and I needed a good kid hauler. So far this is fitting the bill much better than our 07 Tahoe did. I'm 6ft, with a 2.5 year old sitting behind me, I can extend seat all the way back with room to spare. Couldn't resist Dodges 0% financing and employing pricing and other rebates. Basically bought a $39k van for $30k.
Awesome vehicle
This minivan not only looks great inside and out, the solid feel when driving it is very assuring when hauling the family. The van seems to be rock solid. Dodge is the king when it comes to minivans. I have driven the competition, and the versatility and quality of this vehicle far surpasses the others. I don't understand why the editors rating is as low as it is for this van. I highly recommend this vehicle.
I'm a Bit Disappointed
We bought this vehicle because my wife saw one on the highway and liked the looks of it. I would have preferred the styling of the Chrysler Town and Country, but this was better bargain because it came with so many extra features, including one I didn't especially want--the 3.8 engine. I noticed a few days ago that the rear seat back have rust stains on them. We have had absolutely nothing in the rear well that could have done that. Under each stain, I can feel some sort of metal bar, which I believe may be the source of these ugly discolorations. I will check this out with my dealership the next time I go in for service.
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I have the 4.0 Liter. It is very smooth and powerful. The ride is a bit sporty which I like and the phone interface is great. I had really wanted the Chrysler limited but I couldn't justify the extra $$. About the only thing I don't care for is the fake leather seating which is mediocre vinyl.
150K update
Seems they all have this notorious start issue. Anyone ever get it completely fixed and care share how they fixed it?
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poor electrical
Bought this for my wife and worked great right away. Then after a year began to have minor issues with a/c and radio not working right. Get fixed worked ok for a few months then it happened..... our van became possessed and now I have an electrical short that causes the wipers to come on and off then gauges go haywire while the headlights and turn signals start flashing on and off. Yes this happens about every 10 to 15 seconds. Worse part is it's expensive to fix and Chrysler Corp won't recall it. Stay clear and by something that will last more then 100,000 miles
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09 Grand Caravan SXT 3.8L
This is probably the best vehicle I have ever owned. I cannot say enough about it. We travel cross country from New Mexico to Michigan twice a year (pulling a pop-up camper) and we are very pleased with the performance and comfort of our new van. If you are in the market for a new vehicle and need to cart kids around town and still need room left in the vehicle for your whatnots, then skip the gas guzzling SUV's and go for this van, this is not the soccer mom van of the 90's. Dodge has done a great job upgrading every feature to make this a very desireable vehicle for people who want comfort and practicality.
Love my van
This van has it all. I've read many people say that the 3.3 is "underpowered" but I don't get it. Are these guys racing? Racing in a minivan? I recently took my family camping in the mountains and had the thing loaded to the gills, and was able to drive to the campground just fine. Above all else, the Stow n' Go is the best seating option for my family. I love it! (as an aside, I wonder if Edmunds plans on updating their review of this van with another van in the future. It looks to me like all of their problems were with one van that was probably made on a Firday. Seems harsh not to reccomend a product based on a sampleing of one)
Poor quality build, lackluster drive
This is a kind of no frills Grand Caravan that retails for around 25k. The drivers window sticks, you have to slam almost every door for them to shut properly. You can actually see how things don't line up around the door seams. It handles very stiffly. It has a nice design inside and out but the plastic inside makes it cheap looking. This is a company car and it will be put through its paces. The tranny won't hold on a hill, it rolls backward. The driver seat is very uncomfortable. I got caught in the snow and it slid around like a big sled. I was actually very concerned i would wind up in a ditch. I won't take it out in the snow again. Seems a bit underpowered.
rather have a Honda
The touchscreen has already stopped working, the day after we bought it. The culprit is faulty software, but of course Dodge does nothing until they have to, there goes another day wasted at the dealership. A new screen has to be ordered. A plastic piece snapped off of one of the stow n go seats. The storage bin on the back of the drivers seat keeps popping out. The interior looks very cheap given what we paid for this van. The material used on the seats, as well as the cushions, probably won't wear well. No wonder the company is in trouble. So why didn't we buy a Honda? Husband thinks they're overpriced.
Sqweak sqweak sqweak
We have had the van in two times winter and summer for the squeaking sliding doors. This is the fourth Dodge I have bought and will be looking to trade it in asap for an import. Very cheap inside. Rear windows don't open except by going back to do it. Would I recommend this to a friend? No I wpould not even recommend to my enemies.
Great to drive
This van has a 3.3L/E85. Wish it had the bigger motor, but it does not come with the E85. This van as a lot of toys on it. DVD, MyGiG, Sirius radio. Took our first trip with it. Kids loved the dvd plater, mom and dad had the sirius radio on. This has back up camera on it. It also has the ESP on it. Great in the snow. It comes with a speed stick. Could not resist Dodges 0% financing and employing pricing and other rebates. Bought a $29k for $16k. Last van was a merc with a 4.3L, had more power.
Great Deals To Be found On this Vehicle!
I cannot believe I got over 10K off on an SXT- loaded! I paid 19,095 for an MSRP of 29145. 5K below Edmunds Rx TMV! Saved enough to purchase an extended warranty to 5/100K. Also-48 months @ 0%. Edmunds is giving this vehicle a bad rap especially given the unbelievable deals out there.
BEST OF 25 YEARS OF VANS/4.0 6 speed
This is the best Caravan yet and we have 7 in the extended family. The only thing that would be nice is if the drivers seat would lower all the way to the floor. very nice workmanship and a very tight vehicle. I am a mechanic and drove several of these before buying the 4.0. My daughter did too so get one while you can folks.
Wonderful Ride
Never thought I would own a Chrysler product bui I bought a 97 ES which I loved. I though that with the deals available today why not look for a new one. I bought a 09 SXT, only had it a week, but I didn't think I could top my 97, but this is really nice. My wife says it is like traveling in a plane, really smooth ride. The 3.8 engine has plenty of power. Seats aren't as nice as my 97 though, kinda hard. The stow and go seating is nice, My old seats were getting to heavy to remove. The whole van is larger. I did have some minor adjustments to my garage, just barely fits in my small extra garage. Just had my first long trip and was a dream, especially compared to my last long drive in my 97.
Love it
I've had my far share of Chrysler disasters and by far this is the best van i've ever owned! I just traded in a 1998 grand caravan sport with 325 000 miles on it when it officaly blew! I've also had a 93 with 220 000 miles on it and the transmission blew. I bough a base van and i'm worried about the transimission like the last ones.
Brakes
The vehicle is nice to drive and very comfortable. The acceleration of the motor when taking off is very slow. Brakes and rotors on the vehicle had to be changed on the front after 23000km.The back brakes were fixed on this day at 24000km, due to the squealing on the back passenger side and it turns out the pads were cracked and chipped. There was quite a bit of the pads left in the back brakes. Called Chrysler about it and waiting to see what happens. My mechanic and car part supplier of the new brakes said they have seen a lot of theses problems.
My two cents
The 3.3 is a little sluggish on acceleration, but runs well after up to speed.
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Dependable comfortable
It did everything as expected. Few repairs no major issues no nagging minor issues plenty of bang for the dollar. Finish still looks good and shines up
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Worst car on the road.
Where do I start. Brakes, steering, alignment, hub assemblies, eating tires for lunch, interior is garbage. The thing is a money pit but it's a Dodge. Never again.
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4.0 WITH 6 SPEED
My minivan looks great inside and out, and has a rock solid build. The van seems to be rock solid on the road also. Dodge has been doing this for 26 years folks and they got it right again. As a former mechanic I check a vehicle out before I buy and this was far superior to the 3.3 and 3.8 vehicles on the lot. 12 months from now I can update this for you folks with long haul driving. I was reluctant to buy during this crisis but strongly feel we should support our manuafacturing base and most likely the worst that will happen is a reorganization of the industry.
Nice family van with several issues
I got a chance to own this vehicle for a period of 12 months which gave me a chance to do a fair evaluation of this product. Let me state first that I do like this vehicle. I purchased one with the weakest engine, so I do sometimes wish I had spent more money and should have gotten at least the 3.8 L one. I had issues with the rotors at 7K which is a well documented issue with this vehicle and now at 11k had a problem with front wheel bearings going bad which is another documented issue. Otherwise, the vehicle is solid with several immaterial shortcomings. I will be looking to trade it in and get the 2011 year model for this brand new 3.6 L Engine and 6AT transmission.
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650 miles and the pump must be replaced. Is this an example of what is to come?
BEST QUALITY VAN TO DATE
I had not intended on buying a van. I was looking at these units for my daughter and was amazed at the quality of these vehicles. So I purchased the SXTL with the sport suspension, leather, and 17" wheels for myself and a T&C for my daughter. These Dodge vans keep getting better.
BEST VAN IN 25 YEARS
I bought the 4.0 with leather and sport suspension with 17" wheels. Anti sway bars in the back and front as well as anti dive and lift. Very well built quality vehicle.
VERY NICE VAN
I hope this review makes it. It seems only certain reviews get posted. Anyway, love my loaded GC and have to fight my wife for it. The 4.0 engine and 6 speed transmission is perfect. The drivers door shuts a little hard and my Homelink is a bear to program. Other than that go buy two. great vehicles.
First Van
Haven't had this van for 48 hours, so base your interpretation upon that...so far, through test driving and rec driving, it is perfect. The 3.3 L V6 is more than enough for normal driving conditions. We got the base model with an upgrade, so we dont have the navigation, dvd, etc. and the van still seems to provide for the family with normal needs. Build, appearance, and performance have all seemed to be adequate. If you want supperior options, buy a chrysler aspen or an escalade. But how it seems to me so far, for the reasonable family with a budget, this is the best you can get.
No problems so far--but 2nd row? OUCH
We are one week into our new Caravan-- fourth we've owned since 1996. So far so good. My only real complaint is that the "new" seats are scratchy and uncomfortable, especially in the 2nd row. There's a bar that hits right at an adult's shoulder blades--OUCH. We have two teens and it's not so great for them. Younger kids would be no problem. Love the dual channel DVD & myGig radio. The backup camera seems to work nicely also. Last one owned was a 2006 and Dodge has cut corners on this new one compared to old-- plastic spoiler on back end, plastic bumper guard, etc. But best improvement--2nd row windows go 2/3 down. Much appreciated change! Great deals out there--go get one!!!
Beautiful Minivan
We have had this minivan for only three weeks so keep that in mind. So far we've put 1100 miles on a few road trips and no complaints about the performance. Not great gas mileage in the city, but hey, it's a spacious minivan. With the stow 'n go seating you get a lot of cargo space, great for a trip to home depot. I think the exterior styling of this minivan is better than any other in the market. Can't wait to take it on an extended trip with the family.
Dodge Grand Caravan SXT 4.0L Great van!!
The SXT is the best van in the Chrysler line up for price and available options. If your looking to buy go for the 4.0L its the most fuel efficient and is a time proven platform. This van has much more to offer than its competition including stow and go seating better fuel efficiency larger more powerful engine better exterior appearance and the best warranty even if government backed. Regardless of deprecation or the outcome of a Chrysler bankruptcy I'm satisfied that I have that the best van I could find, it meets my personal needs better than any competitor and at a great price. Don't be scared off by the political/economic hype, this is a wonderfully designed well built van.
I love it!
We bought our minivan about a month ago and everyone loves it! My wife wanted the Odyssey but after trying the swivel chairs, she started to get excited about it.
Dodge is better than what editors say
I'm so impressed with my new van. The transmission is the smoothest - 6 speed is highly recommended with the 4.0. Stow and go is second to none - love it. Quality is good for a vehicle of this price range. Overall drive is quite, controlled, and especially great on the highway. Dealers service was great. I think the engineers in Detroit beat Japan on this one. Don't listen to the critics in California, drive one and compare and support your fellow Americans along the way with buying this superior product for the price.
Not my Vanagon but pretty darn good
Bought this one the first day of the bailout when Chrysler said they'd match the C4C money. Traded in my 86 Vanagon and got a $29K van for $17,5. I never thought I'd buy a chrysler product and really loved my VW, but there were a lot of things that needed fixing and with a new baby I wanted something safer for her. I test drove the Japanese and Korean vans and I can't see why anyone would pay 2X as much for one of them. Stow and Go is the single greatest feature. I've already hauled full sheets of plywood in the van and also carried 7 people on a moments notice. We'll see what happens in terms of reliability but I've driven 2 1000 mile trips and it's been great.
Still chugging along after 16 years
Well here it goes, your 13 yr 202k review. Brakes, we don't need no stinking good brakes. Replace every 24k miles, you'll be fine. Wheel bearings, just do those every other brake job you'll be fine. Seeing a trend yet. Engine and tranny good, no big issues. Electrical, starting to act up but have found a major problem. Wire from engine compartment thru driver side door chafes and either breaks or shorts out causing electrical stroke on dash warning lights,wipers,lights, etc. Fix that and problems go away. Rust is now eating van because I live in armpit of U.S. upstate NY where salt is our #1 product. Gear shift selector acting up for 2nd time and we'll see if Stellantis honors their lifetime warranty which they did not do for my rusty oil pan. Power from 3.3 adequate at best but the small motor leaves lots of space to work on things if needed, which it hasn't. Great versatility, the best! Does the things a van is supposed to do better than any other and even some pickups. Gas mileage so so. Larger motor probably would do better especially with 6sp tranny rather than 4sp in base van. Seats ok in front, lousy in middle, ok out back. Oh did I mention brakes and wheel bearings! All in all the van has been a pleasant surprise for lasting this long without stranding us anywhere. And a disappointment for the added expense of brakes and wheel bearings. Oh and Dodge/ Chrysler dealers aren't the best when it comes to customer satisfaction. 3 stars------ wish I could give it more. Lastly, when purchased new in 2/09 the deal was the reason for the buy. 0% for 4 yrs. Lifetime powertrain warranty, good trade in for my 2002 Mazda MPV, rebate and discount on van. Money talked and I listened. But brakes and bearings have made a great deal only a good one. Currently have 215k and the end is getting near. Lately have other niggling little problems like a check engine light that comes on then goes off by itself after a few weeks of driving. Van probably has a heater core issue because I get heat but things fog up inside unless I put ac on. My dash lights come and go making night time driving an adventure and my left rear blinker needs a good smack when it doesn't work. Hoping to keep it alive for just a bit more. Unfortunately I forgot to bring it into my not so friendly Stellantis dealer last yr. for its required 5 yr. powertrain warranty inspection so now I'm toast if any of the big things go. However, the van has lived a good and fruitful life so ce la vie. Well, a little over a month since my last update and of course I jinxed myself. Van stranded me about 20 miles from home with blown coolant hoses. Had to be towed to my neighborhood garage, According to owner of garage the y coupling made of plastic where rubber hoses come together finally broke apart. Says this is a design defect that Chrysler has ignored. He says he hasn't seen one of these blow in some time but they are a pain to fix. $350 and back on the road. Now the tow story was another adventure because it took 3 hrs for someone to show using Allstate Motor club and I was in a local suburban neighborhood. Not good!
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A Real Winner!
This 2009 Dodge Caravan SXT is the third Caravan I have owned. They all were long term cars for me, 10-15 years with over 160,000 miles on them. Never had any major issues with any of them. The 2009 Caravan now has 120,000 trouble free miles on it. It has the 400 engine and the only required major maintenance was at 100,000 miles which was the timing belt, plugs, and water pump. This is a great versatile automobile. Great for road trips with seven passenger capacity and with the stole-and-go feature, you have plenty of room to haul things. On my road trips, it is has alway been good on gas, 25-27 mpg. Over all, a great car to have…
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Best Vehicle I've Owned
I bought this van three years ago for $1700, with 186k miles on it. I'm now at 207+. I replaced the brakes and calipers and front window regulator. I have a minor oil and coolant leak, but they're manageable. I don't understand the hate about this vehicle. The fold-down seats are convenient for transporting my bike and moving. The van handles great. Mpg is reasonable. I get my oil changed every 4000 miles. It's starting to rust on the lower driver door, but I plan to drive this van until the engine or transmission give out. I'm thinking 300k.🤞
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