2007 Lexus LS 460 Consumer Discussions

New Avalon or 2007 LS?

• New Avalon or 2007 LS?

  Written by: ncee on May 6, 2011 4:15:23 AM

  Ok, so they aren't the same car, but here's what I'm up against. I put on 35,000+- miles a year, my 2008 Avalon Touring edition (Purchased in 2009) has 65,000+ miles on it. my local Toyota dealer is offering me a 2011 Avalon Limited Edition in Pearl White at a very good price, and now a friend is offering her 2007 Lexus LS 460 with 42,000 miles on it for about ... Read More

Lexus LS 460 Owner Experiences

• LS 460 Recall

  Written by: dcwalker on Jul 14, 2010 11:57:36 AM

  Have had my 2007 LS in many times for this problem. They always give me the same answer. No service bulletins and nothing shows on their computer. Cannot duplicate the problem. Evidently, they have known it was a problem for a long time. Foreign material? Who are they trying to kid. These are valve springs, not fuel injectors. Isn't it interesting that they will not recall 2009/10 LS models. When exactly ... Read More

Used LS460 or new ES350?

• Re: Thanks - Same problems, thoughts

  Written by: ncee on Jun 6, 2010 4:31:35 AM

  I have '08 Avalon Touring Edition which I'm thinking of trading in on a 2011 Avalon Limited. Well I drove the '11 Standard model, and it was not enough nicer, quieter, smoother then my '08 to trade for:( I've owned the '08 for 16 months or so and have 43,000 miles on it. I don't find the car to be as smooth or as quiet as I'd like on those long ... Read More

Lexus LS 460 Owner Experiences

• Wind Noise

  Written by: rcox4 on Jul 2, 2008 4:17:20 PM

  I purchased a 2007 LS 460 in December after really enjoying my LS 430. I would concur with many of the postings about how the shifting is not as smooth as the 430, but it is offset by other attributes. Where I am having a big problem is with wind noise. One of the things I have valued in all of my Lexus' has been how quiet they are. When I ... Read More

Lexus LS 460 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2007/2008 LS 460 pricing [flanders1]

  Written by: cctdi on Jan 22, 2009 4:48:20 PM

  According to Edmunds’ TMV pricing, the 08 Ls is already selling over 17k off the MSRP. I got a 08 RX 400H in July for my wife from Cherry Lexus in South Jersey with only 3.5k off the MSRP, now the same car sells 6-7k off! I wish I wouldn’t had gotten my 08 535xi and 750Li earlier last year from the BMW right next door to the Lexus; the car ... Read More

Lexus LS 460 Suggested Improvements

• Re: Lexus LS - Suggested Improvements [rennybosch]

  Written by: mitchellrowe on Nov 19, 2008 8:03:35 PM

  Hello Renny , Hello All : i am the owner of a white with tan genesis 3.8 with both packages which include the cd/dvd/nav-traffic ...etc . yes i am happy . no i tried 3 LS 460's . one 2007 , and two 2008's . they were combo platters of camry's and avalon's with a sprinkling of fairy dust . mitchell rowe happy thanksgiving

2008 Lexus LS 460/460L

• Re: LS Choice [houdini1]

  Written by: ljflx on Nov 4, 2008 7:23:48 PM

  Houdini, I haven't posted in ages. I've finally looked back in because I'm looking at SUV's. I've got my car since May 2007, have about 22K miles on it and love it. The more I look at it the more I love the styling. Naturally it's been flawless and I couldn't go back to the 430 after ths experience. You've got a great car in the 430 but the 460 raised ... Read More

Lexus LS 460 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• 08 vs. 07 LS

  Written by: wabends on Apr 25, 2008 7:44:50 PM

  In the past, I have always sought suggestions from this forum before making a purchase and it has been very helpful. I need suggestions and recommendations from our knowledgeable members about a decision that I have to make soon. So I am back seeking more advice. Below are LS 460 models that I am considering; Vehicle I: 2007 LS 460 with approx. 8000 miles; Comfort plus; Intuitive Parking Assist/Navigation system/Mark Levinson/Advanced ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions

• Re: Electronic glitches [marday]

  Written by: dcwalker on Mar 13, 2008 2:25:16 PM

  Not sure what glitches you refer to but my 2007 LS460 has been the car from hell, and I have been driving them since 1990. It is difficult to know where to start with my complaints on this car but here are some: 1. Sometimes driving this car is so sweet, I think I am dreaming. It can be smooth in acceleration through all gears and tons of power. At other ... Read More

Lexus LS 460 Lease Questions

• Re: MF for December to Remember 2007 for Lexus LS 460 L [roman7]

  Written by: Car_man on Nov 28, 2007 2:34:47 AM

  Hello roman7. In the areas that I have seen Lexus' December to Remember lease program for, Lexus Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 LS 460 L with 15,000 miles per year are .00230 and 50%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its Tier 1+ credit tier. The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year is ... Read More

• MF for December to Remember 2007 for Lexus LS 460 L

  Written by: roman7 on Nov 26, 2007 8:01:15 PM

  Hello Carman! Can you tell what's a money factor in Colorado for 36 or 48 month with 12K or 15 K per year for customers with tier 1 credit on Lexus LS 460 L 2008? Your answer will help a lot! Thank you! :)

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions

• Lexus LS 460 Wind Noise

  Written by: renrel on Oct 16, 2007 10:32:09 AM

  I have the 2007 LS 460 and this is my 5th Lexus. I too have the wind noise and I am very upset that neither the dealer, Keyes Lexus, nor Lexus Corp can do anything about it. I spent $65k on a car, and they are doing nothing for me. A lexus should not sound like the window is down and this occurs at speeds as low as 40 mph. If ... Read More

2008 Lexus LS 460/460L

• Re: 2008 arrival [atlas7]

  Written by: mitchellrowe on Sep 30, 2007 2:56:31 PM

  mr. atlas7 : i spent 2000 miles on my 2007 ls 460 swb last november ( 1 year ago ) . i was a lexus fan and collector . i had a mishap in the '07 , and blamed the shortcoming of the car . it was one of very early builds . yes , i really "feel " there is a difference between the early '07 and the '08 . ... Read More

• Re: 2008 arrival [stackemhigh]

  Written by: mitchellrowe on Sep 30, 2007 11:16:25 AM

  mr. stackemhigh : friday . september 28 - 2007 , lexus of cherry hill received theirfirst 2008 ls . it was a ls460 swb , mercury silver with light grey leather , and grey wood . i drove the car extensively , and found NO WIND NOISE , NO GRABBY BRAKES , AN IMPROVED SATELLITE RADIO , A MUCH HEAVIER ROAD FEEL - INCLUDING A TIGHTER STEERING ACTION . i bought ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions

• Wind Noise problem

  Written by: djmarcus on Sep 28, 2007 8:54:50 AM

  I read with great interest of the 'wind noise problem'. I am getting ready to lease (3 yrs) a 2008 LS/460 (this will be the 11th Lexus in my family over the years). I've been an LS driver since 1990 and truthfully noise was never a problem. I've even had a client once ask me if my LS was electric! - it was so quiet So, is there a problem with ... Read More

Lexus LS 460 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• 2007 LS 460 Pricing

  Written by: natenj1971 on Sep 24, 2007 6:48:11 PM

  My dad is shopping for a 460. He was quoted $63k for a 2007 LS 460 with: - Comfort Package - Lexus voice-activated HDD Navigation System - Intuitive Parking Assist - Power door closers and power rear trunk MSRP is $67,565.00 This would be his first Lexus purchase. Currently drives a 2004 430 S Class. Any feedback is appreciated.

Lexus LS 460/460L Park Assist

• Some posts were moved

  Written by: pat on Sep 4, 2007 9:20:39 AM

  Here's the link: gq2007, "Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions" #756, 4 Sep 2007 7:49 am.

Lexus LS 460 Lease Questions

• Re: LS factors Lexus LS460 [travelingtom90]

  Written by: Car_man on Jul 31, 2007 3:56:38 AM

  Hi travelingtom90. Lexus just enhanced its lease program last week. Its new buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 48 month lease of a base 2007 LS 460 with 12,000 miles per year are .00265 and 44%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its Tier 1+ credit tier. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum

• Re: Lexus LS 460: Lease Questions [Car_man]

  Written by: bennyhoppy on Jul 15, 2007 2:23:30 PM

  Car_Man, I am looking to lease a Lexus LS 460L and wanted to find out the lease rate/money factor and residual in Southern California(Orange County) for the month of July 2007? Is the residual % taken from the "agreed upon price" or other? Also, if I extend my search into August and/or September, where I can find this information on the web? Thank you BennyHoppy

Lexus LS: Buy a 2006 or 2007?

• Post moved

  Written by: pat on Jun 29, 2007 7:25:57 AM

  I moved a post to a discussion where it's more likely to be seen by someone who can help. Here's the link: mcoleky, "Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions" #730, 28 Jun 2007 6:24 pm.

Lexus LS 460 Lease Questions

• Re: Lexus LS 460: Lease Questions [roman7]

  Written by: Car_man on May 16, 2007 2:36:42 AM

  Here you go, roman7. Lexus is not currently providing any lease support on the 2007 LS 460L. As a result, if you were to lease one through Lexus Financial Services right now, you would have to use its standard lease program. I believe that its buy rate standard lease money factor varies slightly by region, but it should be around .00275 for consumers who qualify for its "Tier 1+" credit tier ... Read More

Lexus LS 460 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Price for Lexus LS 460 L with executive package

  Written by: roman7 on Apr 22, 2007 4:30:00 PM

  Hi everyone! Is anybody has got a very good deal on Lexus LS 460L 2007 with executive package (4 seats)? Please share your experience! I'm going to order one or find out one from the dealer for a good price Thank you!

Lexus LS 460 Lease Questions

• Re: Lexus LS 460: Lease Questions [pat]

  Written by: roman7 on Apr 22, 2007 4:16:35 PM

  Hi CarMan! What's a money factor and residual for Lexus LS 460L 2007 in April (12K a year for 36 month) for Tier 1 customers? Thank you very much!

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions

• Lexus LS 460 Declared 2007 World Car of the Year

  Written by: rgsw on Apr 10, 2007 6:50:06 PM

  And Now There is One. Lexus LS 460 Declared 2007 World Car of the Year. See: ">http://www.lexus.com/about/news/articles/2007/4/20070405_1.html?s_ocid=30204

• Re: LS 460 - Special Order Delivery Time [gary44]

  Written by: knowspinzone on Mar 18, 2007 4:27:39 PM

  Gary, please keep us posted because I am very interested in hearing about your experience. I just ordered mine two weeks ago because I wanted a specific color combo and specific options, including the Pre-Collision and Dynamic Cruise Control (which appears to be non-existent in cars sent to the Northeast). The dealer told me 3-4 months which puts it in the June/July time frame. I was thinking myself if I should ... Read More

Lexus LS Dealers and Service Issues

• Lexus Service Issues Must Go to Dealers 1st

  Written by: slexy1 on Feb 26, 2007 3:32:54 PM

  I just learned a lesson the hard way. I have an "out of warranty" issue concerning my 2001 LS 430's trunk lid mechanism. I was just told that I should have gone to the dealer I serviced the car at most before I called the Lexus 800 # and got turned down based on the VIN # and records on my car. I am now trying the D.O.M. (District Office Manager) ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions

• If LS 460 Trunk Space Is A Big Issue, Try It Before You Buy It

  Written by: slexy1 on Feb 26, 2007 3:13:50 PM

  I have a blog post that basically says that the trunk hinge mechanism on the 2007 LS 460 is superior (in my opinion) to the "strut" trunk lid mechanism on all the LS 430's from 2001 to 2006. But the "stuts" enable the LS 430 to have a bit more trunk space capacity as my blog post details here: "2007 Lexus LS 460's Retro 1990 Trunk Lid Mechanism " http://www.brokerblogger.com/brokerblogger/2007/02/lexus_ls_460s_r.html

Lexus LS: Buy a 2006 or 2007?

• If Trunk Space Is A Big Issue, Consider the 2006 LS 430

  Written by: slexy1 on Feb 26, 2007 2:31:13 PM

  I have a blog post that basically says that the trunk hinge mechanism on the 2007 LS 460 is superior (in my opinion) to the "strut" trunk lid mechanism on all the LS 430's from 2001 to 2006. But the "stuts" enable the LS 430 to have a bit more trunk space capacity as my blog post details here: 2007 Lexus LS 460's Retro 1990 Trunk Lid Mechanis>/a>">link title

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions

• Finally found One

  Written by: tricky73 on Jan 21, 2007 6:43:58 AM

  Go to http://www.automedia.com/2007/Lexus/LS/460L/rts20061201ls/1/ to see a review of a 460 w/Touring Package

Lexus LS 460 Lease Questions

• Re: November Lease Program? [mbonus]

  Written by: Car_man on Jan 17, 2007 4:43:55 AM

  No problem, Mike. Unfortunately, Lexus is not currently providing lease support on the 2007 LS 460. As a result, if you were to lease one through Lexus Financial Services right now, you would have to use its standard lease program. LFS' buy rate standard lease money factor varies slightly by region, but it is currently around .00275 for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier. LFS' current 36 month, 15,000 ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

• IBALL

  Written by: iball on Jan 10, 2007 10:35:14 PM

  LEXUS LS 460 & 460L HAS MISSED THE BOAT IN ONE LUXURY CATAGORY!!------REAR LEG ROOM!! 35.8 FOR THE 460, & 37.8 FOR THE460L. GET THIS------ THE CAMERY IS 38.3 [OTHER MID-SIZED CARS-LINCOLN MKZ 37.0, SEBRING 37.6"] I SAT BEHIND THE DRIVER'S SEAT [WHICH I SET FOR MYSELF @ 5'8"]ON A LS460, AND MY SHOES [INSTEPS] HAD TO SLIP UNDER THE FRONT SEAT TO BE THE LEAST BIT COMFORTABLE! CADILLAC 42.0, MB=42.3 ... Read More

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• International Car of the Year Awards 2007

  Written by: ctsang on Jan 8, 2007 11:20:13 AM

  Luxury Car: “Most Respected” – Lexus LS 460

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions

• LS460 std wheelbase

  Written by: mitchellrowe on Dec 28, 2006 11:50:22 AM

  Since 1989 , I have possibly owned more Lexus Automobiles than any one person . 88 including sons , daughters , partners , parents , siblings , and on . Currently , i do own the LS 460 std , and a partner owns the LS 460 long . the LS swb has about 400 miles on her , and the Long has 2200 miles . The swb is a $ ... Read More

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• The Pre-Production Question

  Written by: hpowders on Dec 25, 2006 12:21:45 PM

  It really is a simple question: Would Lexus have released a pre-production LS 460 vehicle to C&D for testing unless it was reasonably sure it was an accurate representation of the actual production vehicle? They would have to be insane if it wasn't. What about the other reviewers who had issues with the brakes and steering? So there is only one 2007 LS going around for reviewing and it happens to ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions

• Re: The Economics of the LS 460 [houdini1]

  Written by: tricky73 on Dec 24, 2006 1:16:01 PM

  The 'deal' was for a LWB w/touring package, MSRP $82,407. By the time they showed the car the price had increased to $92K and change w/o tax, having added chromed wheels and LoJack. I can't imagine anybody trying to peddle LoJack if the car has Lexus Link, which this one had. I asked our police chief one time whether they could really track a stolen vehicle equipped w/LoJack, and his advice ... Read More

• Re: Voltage, LS Chat Room et al [tricky73]

  Written by: syswei on Dec 20, 2006 12:14:57 PM

  Thanks. I tried to dig a few things out of them, don't know how much it helped though: You: a few questions re the LS: Vaughn Wendelstadt: What are your questions? You: 1. When will the 460/460L be available with AWD? You: 2. What will the trunk space be on the 600hL, without rear seat upgrades? Vaughn Wendelstadt: There has been some interest in LS 460 vehicles being offered with AWD. ... Read More

Lexus LS 460 Lease Questions

• Re: November Lease Program? [mbonus]

  Written by: Car_man on Dec 11, 2006 2:43:32 AM

  Lexus' December to Remember" sales event started on November 14th. Through this program, its buy rate lease money factor for the 2007 LS 460 is .00265 for consumers who qualify for its Tier 1+ credit tier. Make sure that this is the factor that is used to calculate your car's monthly payment. Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions

• Re: Evasive [atlas7]

  Written by: nvbanker on Dec 10, 2006 10:51:47 AM

  I have yet to see any reviews that have the Lexus posting faster times than the MB S550. They do: http://reviews.cnet.com/2007_Lexus_LS_460_L/4505-10865_7-32172595.html?tag=subna- - -

• Very impressive review of the LS460L from CNET

  Written by: cyclone4 on Dec 8, 2006 8:36:45 PM

  They give it a perfect 10. Wow! http://reviews.cnet.com/2007_Lexus_LS_460_L/4505-10865_7-32172595.html?tag=subna- - v

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• November Sales Data for Lexus LS and Mercedes S-Class

  Written by: jcoby on Dec 1, 2006 3:52:12 PM

  Lexus and Mercedes-Benz have their sales data on their websites and is as follows (I found Lexus data at Toyota website): Lexus link title The LS 430 and the all-new LS 460 reported combined sales of 3,613, an increase of 116.3 percent. Mercedes link title (You will have to select December's data) Sales of the newest generation S-Class were nearly double this month over last November (2,780 vs. 1,400) I wonder ... Read More

• Re: As the dust settles, [brightness04]

  Written by: hpowders on Oct 22, 2006 4:33:04 AM

  I have posted my criticisms of the new LS 460 on the recently formed thread, "2007 Lexus LS 460 Full Test" based purely on the findings of Edmunds reviewers and how these findings positively correlate with the findings of the Car and Driver reviewers. I am a great believer in trends not being coincidences. Perhaps after listening to the improved (when no improvement was necessary) ML sound system and getting my ... Read More

• Re: LS 460 [dhamilton]

  Written by: hpowders on Oct 21, 2006 4:19:47 PM

  See the new thread, "Article Comments: 2007 Lexus LS 460 Full Test." You can voice your opinion over there on Edmunds findings: the grabby brakes, disappointing suspension, Edmunds unable to match the 0-60 and quarter-mile times Lexus has provided, which in both cases were reported as too fast by the company, the boring styling, etc; for starters.

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

• With that

  Written by: pat on Oct 19, 2006 5:09:56 AM

  I'm going to ask that the conversation about the changes in the Forums be discontinued here. Kirstie has provided a more appropriate link in this post: kirstie_h, "2007 Lexus LS 460/460L: First Drives" #16, 18 Oct 2006 10:44 am.

• Re: houdini1 [nexuslexus]

  Written by: excelsior88 on Oct 16, 2006 4:21:04 PM

  So far we have second-hand (journalist) statements, who say that Lexus reps have told them AWD LS 460's are in the near future, but there is no guarantee that the LS 460 AWD will come out for the 2007-2008 time frame. That is the earliest possibility... Good luck on your decision!

• Re: LWB [ljflx]

  Written by: excelsior88 on Oct 11, 2006 3:08:39 PM

  Lexus Link was discontinued for the 2004- LS 430, but has been brought back for the LS 460, apparently with new organization, etc. It might be similar, but have nowhere near the functions, of the LS 460 G-Book in Japan, which offers--music downloads, an internal security camera that allows you to check on your LS via cellphone when it is in the parking lot, etc etc. Remote start is another Japan-only ... Read More

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• A Tale of Two Recent LS 460 Reviews

  Written by: hpowders on Oct 8, 2006 5:23:16 AM

  This from "izoom.com": "As a contender in the big luxury sedan category, the LS 460 is uninspired and laden with pointless, whiz-bang gizmos that left us wondering if the folks at Lexus are out of touch." "In terms of styling, the new LS is unlikely to attract new buyers and especially any converts from formidable prestige brands such as Mercedes-Benz or BMW." "According to Lexus Vice President of Marketing Deborah Meyer, ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

• Re: Hell of a tangent, fellas! [idele]

  Written by: excelsior88 on Oct 5, 2006 4:34:10 PM

  It seems that Lexus agrees with you. Just judging by the websites, Japan and Europe have had far more effort put into promoting and providing detailed information about the LS 460. The 'extended worldwide launch' saw shows in Japan, Europe, and the US...with major reveals in each continent. With regards to options, the RSES is available in a variety of iterations, unlike the N American market. Europe and Japan will be ... Read More

• Re: Yes, Merc [oac]

  Written by: ljflx on Sep 27, 2006 10:15:31 AM

  OAC - again I wouldn't assume it's the sport touring version just because it had 19" wheels. Those can just as easily be an available option on the air suspension models. My feeling is this was an air susppension set on the sport mode. Tag - lends crecedence to my belief that Lexus will underestimate demand for LWB cars in year one. Clearly this car was really set to be a ... Read More

• Possibly new information on LS600hL (long.. sorry)

  Written by: nexuslexus on Sep 11, 2006 5:26:48 PM

  Here is what may be new information on the LS600hL. Lexus 2008 LS 600h L: World's First Full Hybrid V8 Luxury Sedan Joins All-New Fourth-Generation LS 460 and LS 460 L 09/12/2006 Torrance, CA September 12, 2006 - Torrance, CA - Unveiled at the 2006 New York International Automobile Show, Lexus' all-new 2008 LS 600h L hybrid luxury sedan is scheduled to arrive in spring 2007. The all-wheel-drive LS 600h L ... Read More

• LS sets the standard...

  Written by: excelsior88 on Sep 10, 2006 10:30:02 PM

  ...since its debut. the 1st gen Car and Driver LS comparo in 1989 found it the #1 vehicle over the S-class and others; they cited superior "comfort, engine performance, ergonomics, ride quality, styling," etc. The last gen LS 430 also beat out the S-class in the last C & D comparo, taking first place in that article. Will it do the same this time around? However, reading those articles and contrasting ... Read More

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• Autochannel LS460 first drive

  Written by: syswei on Sep 10, 2006 2:41:07 AM

  As could be judged from a day driving a 2007 LS 460 L on the roads north of San Francisco, the effort that Lexus has put into the car's design and construction was very worthwhile. The LS 460 is a major step forward for Lexus. As comfortable and inviting as the Exectuive Class right rear seat may be, the driver's seat is just as good in its own way. Previous LS ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

• Motorweek

  Written by: excelsior88 on Sep 5, 2006 1:42:44 PM

  I apologize for any misinformation on my part, its been years since my local PBS station carried the show (which I watched religiously). This is where I found it: Episode Title: 2550/Kia Optima PBS broadcast window begins August 18, 2006 Quick Listing: Road Test: The high value 2007 Kia Optima sedan Road Test: The 2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder Goss' Garage: The Truth about Long Life Oil Over The Edge: Shelby Club ... Read More

• Interesting

  Written by: oac on Aug 28, 2006 9:01:39 PM

  Just wandering around the net and seeing/reading reactions to the new LS460 has been certainly "interesting". There is so much focus on the small stuff by some, while others focus on the big stuff. Taken together, the car delivers on its promises, and its clientele will be very happy indeed. For those with "Bitch, Moan & Whine" or "More Bitching" syndromes, the LS series (460/L/600L) are here to cure all those ... Read More

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• Re: Toronto's Globe And Mail [hpowders]

  Written by: dewey on Aug 28, 2006 5:23:00 PM

  The 2007 Lexus LS 460 "feels soft compared to rival luxury sedans." But that is precisely why many people buy an LS. Most the people I know favor ride comfort over anything else. A stiff ride is not what they are looking for.

• Toronto's Globe And Mail

  Written by: hpowders on Aug 28, 2006 2:02:30 PM

  Thank you Dewey for your latest link giving us yet another 2007 Lexus LS460 perspective. The words need no clarification from me: "After nearly two decades, Lexus still lacks a flagship sedan to rival the BMW 7-Series and Mercedes Benz S-Class in price, performance and prestige." The 2007 Lexus LS 460 "feels soft compared to rival luxury sedans."

• Re: Another Review of the 2007 LS 460 [hpowders]

  Written by: anthonyp on Aug 25, 2006 6:07:21 PM

  A bmw 550i was parked right in front of the house and when I came out the porch door it looked quite striking....I know some don`t like the design from the rear, but I wonder if they have ever thought how they would change it? All in all it lookes like it does because of all it`s components...I further don`t really think Lexus ls and 550 are at all alike, or ... Read More

• Re: Another Review of the 2007 LS 460 [hpowders]

  Written by: merc1 on Aug 25, 2006 4:21:38 PM

  I read elsewhere on another thread that the autorags "wouldn't dare" give the LS 460 a negative review because of the power and influence of Lexus. Yeah I read that too. Amazing how everyone outside of the magazine knows how they conduct business. One minute the mags won't give a Lexus a good review because they're biased and love Euros too much, now they won't give the LS a bad review ... Read More

• Re: Another Review of the 2007 LS 460 [merc1]

  Written by: hpowders on Aug 25, 2006 4:11:35 PM

  All I know is Car And Driver could have copied those exact words used to describe the new LS 460 from an old review of the LS 430. According to them not much has changed. I read elsewhere on another thread that the autorags "wouldn't dare" give the LS 460 a negative review because of the power and influence of Lexus. Guess again!

• Another Review of the 2007 LS 460

  Written by: hpowders on Aug 25, 2006 3:34:20 PM

  This from "Car And Driver" on the new 2007 Lexus LS 460: "Comfortable seats, quiet cabin, smooth V-8. A bargain compared with German competitors." "Styling isn't groundbreaking. It's still not a driver's car. Chassis is balanced, but it likes to lean in corners. Teriffically bland to the enthusiast." These are the exact same comments the autorags have been making for years about this vehicle's predecessor, the LS 430. Doesn't seem like ... Read More

• Re: Another Review of the 2007 LS 460 [merc1]

  Written by: hpowders on Aug 25, 2006 5:17:25 PM

  I guess the tiebreaking and deciding vote on the 2007 Lexus LS 460 will go to Road & Track. I hope they test it with the new sportier suspension because we can safely predict what they will say if they test the basic LS 460 (which would be a shame).

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

• Another LS460 Review

  Written by: oac on Aug 23, 2006 11:26:24 AM

  http://www.nctd.com/review-intro.cfm?Vehicle=2007_Lexus_LS%20460&ReviewID=1944 A good read for its thoroughness... Under driving impressions, here is a comment worth noting: "If you order the optional air suspension or the entire Touring package of suspension, tires, wheels, brakes and brake pads, you get variable gear-ratio power steering instead, giving the system the latitude between 2.5 and 3.6 rotations of the steering wheel. Without the Touring package, the ride and handling are exemplary, but with it, there ... Read More

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• Lexus future plans\models

  Written by: lexusguy on Aug 21, 2006 5:13:21 PM

  Some interesting information from Automotive news, particularly in regards to the SUVs: IS: "A convertible was expected to debut when the coupe arrived. But Lexus is worried that its planned convertible may not succeed in a world of hard-top convertibles. The model may be sent back to the drawing board, forcing a delay. Lexus executives downplay reports of a V-8, saying the big engine would kill the car's handling - not ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

• Re: I just don't see it quite that way [topspin628]

  Written by: jd14 on Aug 18, 2006 2:42:36 PM

  I was wondering if you or any of the others posting here have seen the video that Edmunds added to their first drive article on the 460. I would almost say that it praises the new LS as being one of the most well-rounded fullsize luxury sedans on the market. Especially in the last part of the video, where they state that "the 2007 Lexus LS460 once again proves that you ... Read More

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• The Best Edmunds Can Say!

  Written by: hpowders on Aug 16, 2006 11:36:06 AM

  After the "First Drive" of the 2007 LS 460: "The new Lexus may not be as pretty as the Audi, or as powerful as the Mercedes, or as driver-focused as the 750i, but it is the only one that can park itself." Let's see-it's not too pretty, not too powerful and not too driver-focused. Well what the heck is left??? If that's the best Edmunds can say about the 2007 LS, ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

• Re: LS 460 should be priced head-to-head with germans [ljflx]

  Written by: nvbanker on Aug 14, 2006 5:32:38 PM

  "Lexus took a step toward a tighter ride in 2001 and will take a larger step in 2007." There is also a slight difference between the ride and handling of my 02 LS, and my 05 LS. The 05 is discernably tighter in the steering tolerance, though still weighted properly, and the ride is considerably more responsive. The tires and wheels were the same, exactly, so it has to be the ... Read More

• Re: LS 460 is a new edition and must evolve into a premium-HELM [stevekilburn]

  Written by: ljflx on Aug 14, 2006 5:15:08 PM

  You want them to stop producing a car that sells 90K units a year. That is a money machine for them. It'll never happen and many ES cars are now reaching $40-42K pricetags. Not bad for an entry point vehicle and higher than some of the competition. What a hole that would be in their model line-up. No chance on earth of this even being discussed at Lexus HQ (unless the ... Read More

• Re: LS 460 should be priced head-to-head with germans [nvbanker]

  Written by: ljflx on Aug 14, 2006 4:29:17 PM

  Same for me nvbanker. Audi's there but it's irrelvant and I think most US lux buyers feel the same way. I'll always be a Lexus or MB buyer (I'd take my chances on reliability with the GL if I were SUV shopping today. I've read a lot about that SUV recently and while it still has the quirky nav and other things MB seems to have nailed that SUV in most ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: I Read..... [merc1]

  Written by: oac on Jul 22, 2006 1:27:19 PM

  I can see the LS460L taking some comparos due to its huge projected price advantage,.. You can say that again... According to this post on the LS 460 board, its reality. vantage2, "2007 Lexus LS" #2201, 22 Jul 2006 12:23 pm Imagine an LS460 with all those new style and features starting in the E500/550i range ???? That'd put a HUGE dent in the S-class sales, don't ya think ?

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

• LS 460 AWD

  Written by: billsoter on Jan 22, 2006 7:45:46 AM

  I'm not sure I understand Lexus' thinking if, as appears likely, the 2007 LS 460 will only be rear wheel drive with no option for all wheel drive. Each week, Lexus runs a full page ad in the Wall Street Journal extolling the virtues and necessity of AWD on the GS and IS models. Further, the LS' target MB's 2007 S Class will have an AWD version this fall. To only ... Read More

• MB, BMW what else you have?

  Written by: lexusi on Jan 15, 2006 8:34:29 AM

  The battle will be hard this time, MB, BMW you better have something in your pockets, coz lexus will smoke you all!! Lexus has also emboldened the exterior design, flaring and widening the wheel wells, pulling the roofline back, eliminating the door moldings, strengthening the sheetmetal's convex/concave intersections, and raising the tail end. Super sophisticated equipment including adaptive radar cruise control, a lane departure warning system (I posted this before, it ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• MB, BMW?? what else you have?

  Written by: lexusi on Jan 15, 2006 8:34:08 AM

  The battle will be hard this time, MB, BMW you better have something in your pockets, coz lexus will smoke you all!! Lexus has also emboldened the exterior design, flaring and widening the wheel wells, pulling the roofline back, eliminating the door moldings, strengthening the sheetmetal's convex/concave intersections, and raising the tail end. Super sophisticated equipment including adaptive radar cruise control, a lane departure warning system (I posted this before, it ... Read More

• Re: Soul Train [hpowders]

  Written by: oac on Jan 13, 2006 2:25:44 PM

  Hey, Merc1 doesn't even own a Mercedes but his posts about Mercedes and the other HELM's are always among the most articulate and penetrating on this thread. Just because I drive a 545i doesn't exclude me from posting here despite what you think. Since when is what someone drives a prerequisite to posting on the HELM board? How did you come into this conclusion, Howard ? Just when I thought we ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

• Plenty of pix plus the 9" monitor

  Written by: ljflx on Jan 12, 2006 6:02:08 PM

  Don't know if anyone linked this but this site has a lot of pix plus the only shot I saw of the 9" rear monitor - scroll down about midway. Looks like that may be the option or standard equipment on the LS. Based on other reads though it would seem the LWB gets monitor options in both head rests instead. Don't know if that 9" flipdown would interfere with the ... Read More

• Automotive News Report

  Written by: dc661 on Aug 21, 2005 7:17:32 AM

  An update from Automotive News regarding 2007 LS: "Lexus executives say the fall of 2006 will be like 1989, when Lexus and the LS were launched in the US. They are confident that the redesigned 2007 LS 460 flagship will once again take the luxury segment by storm." They also confirm: 7 speed transmission AWD will be an option Hybrid will arrive in 2008 model year (power of 6-liter engine with ... Read More

• LS 460

  Written by: horseman3 on Jul 12, 2005 3:33:45 PM

  I'm new to this forum. When is it believed that the Lexus 460 would be available for actual purchase? My Infiniti Q45 is ten years old but still super. I want the new toys and larger trunk on a Lexus. Maybe I should wait for the 2007, but how long is that? I usually keep cars a long time. Maybe I should do a lease of the 430, and then go ... Read More

• Re: Telegram... Camp Lexus... di di dit dit [designman]

  Written by: oac on Jul 11, 2005 4:23:19 PM

  OK, let's ignore for the moment the hyperboles (you called it) in jblak's posts. The new GS did not miss really. Rather, I'd say that it is a scheduling *problem* at Lexus to blame for the new GS. The engines designed for the new GS are the 3.5L and 4.6L, and the hybrid powerplant 450H. Unfortunately, neither of these engines were ready at launch. The 450H arrives next spring, and the ... Read More

• Re: Sketch vs. reality [nvbanker]

  Written by: mikegiller on Jun 26, 2005 4:57:31 PM

  I'm in a dilemma right now... Lexus LS 460/500/600h or IS 350/460/500. When these cars come out I'll be in the market for one. What a joy it will be to test drive them! DECISIONS DECISION DECISION!!! I love Porsches, especially the 911 4s, but from what I hear, the reliability is really lacking. Because of this, the new LF-A looks like a sure contender for a sports car in my ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: GS 300/430 [oac]

  Written by: ljflx on Apr 19, 2005 7:31:31 AM

  OAC - That car will make those and the others including the Audi V12 and VW V12 (do they even sell Phaetons anymore, I never see any ads anywhere and I never see the car on the road) look like dinosaurs and it'll be 15%-25% cheaper to boot. Latest and greatest technology in a sportier look from the worlds most reliable auto maker at a heavy discount. Pretty easy to see ... Read More

Lexus LS 460/LS 460L Styling Impressions

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  Written by: syswei on Feb 10, 2005 5:46:12 PM

  from consumerguide: "a redesigned LS is due for 2007 to cap a top-to-bottom makeover for all Lexus sedans...the 460 is expected to feature a new Vehicle Dynamic Management system (VDM) that integrates antiskid/traction control with Lexus's first "by-wire" antilock brakes...Word is that overall length is little changed, but that wheelbase, height and maybe width show slight gains. All-wheel drive may be available, perhaps standard."   full article http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/- 38166

• LS460 Officially Coming in Fall 2006

  Written by: jamesfletcher2 on Jan 31, 2005 8:16:22 PM

  Lexus Division General Manager Denny Clements announced at the NADA convention that just finished up the following official new redesign products and release dates:    GS 350/GS 460 Spring 2005 IS 250/IS 350 Fall 2005 ES 350 Spring 2006 GS 450h Spring 2006 LS 460 Fall 2006    As you can see, the new LS will be 4.6 liters and a 2007 model. I hope this helps with the limited flow ... Read More