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sweeet truck
trucker, 09/24/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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why is it edmonds doesnt have a 4.7lt with an automatic as an option like my truck is? 10k miles and going strong.
Big Red Ram
Ken Bolle Sr, 09/27/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD LB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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The big red ram I ordered is flame red and it is the best truck I have ever driven and I had a lot of gm products working for the city. The 5300 # beauty stands out every where and everybody that sees it stares or wants a closer look and says that its a beautiful truck. It rides like a limo and is very quick and nimble. Ken B
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Will dodge Dodge now
HVB, 07/26/2009
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Almost immediately after the initial 3/36 warranty was up the dash cracked. Im not talking a small crack the dash looks like a mine field and is actually now in about 6 pieces. No problem since I purchased the 10 year/100K warranty. When I took the truck in I was told the dash is not covered since trim is not covered. (I dont feel the entire dash is trim). I was also told by the service manager that this is a problem they have never seen before, but they would see what they could do to help. The help turned out to be replace the dash with me paying for the parts at $600 each for the two parts! So I contacted Dodge and asked what could be done I googled Dodge truck dash cracks
New Lemon of Truckville
Lemon in Texas, 09/29/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Nothing but problems from the get go. Started stalling by the time the truck hit 3000 miles. Also problems with ABS and emergency brake lights coming on. Problems with rust on the body and odd intermittent engine sounds. Would not recommend this truck to anyone! Complete waste of your time and money.
Female Road Warrior!
Chele, 10/15/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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For my first pick-up truck I purchased the 2002 Dodge Ram Quad 4x4. No regrets - ITS A CLYDESDALE!! The best on the road. I'll never own any other kind of vehicle again.
A major kick-ass truck!
Lightning, 06/14/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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By far the absolute best truck I have ever bought! The ride is great on the highway and everyone gets out of my way when they see me coming.
Rusty Parts
BigTire, 10/18/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD LB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I found rust on my vehicle after it was delivered to the lot. Apparently this Truck was sitting on a lot somewhere. The rear bumper was covered in rust on the underside. I did a little research and found out there was an undercoat issue from the supplier for the bumper. They were improperly undercoating the bumper, and the chrome ones are likely to rust. Likewise, the same individual informed me of problems with seals around the cab of the truck. Water was getting in on the early production of the 2002 models. Take a good look at your bumper, cause if it looked like mine, get them to put a new one on! Also I found various paint flaws on the vehicle.
dodge rules
noe, 07/26/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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this is the best sytled truck with the best engine that this company has put out to date
love this truck
don simpson, 05/21/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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great looking, drives great, fun to drive,plenty of room frt and rear, paint is solid, performance is superb and, like it better every time i drive it.
Outstanding Truck
BRamsey, 10/07/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 2dr Regular Cab ST 2WD SB (3.7L 6cyl 5M)
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This is by far the best truck I have ever owned, and I've had chevy, ford, and toyota. The 3.7L v-6 has tons of low end power and will smoke the tread off the tires. When its washed and the chrome is polished, I get looks everywhere I go.
Absolute Winner at 15k miles!
J.K., 10/25/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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With 15k miles I have to say I am just as glad to own it as the day I bought it. It stops quickly, handles great, looks great, and best of all the only trip back to the dealership was for a defective side view mirror. I am really pleased with the mileage- with the manual tranny I get 17city and topped out at 21.5 on the highway.
READ THIS!!!
John Quartieri, 08/02/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 2dr Regular Cab ST 4WD LB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I bought a 2wd st standard cab ram with the 4.7L and auto trans. it's atlantic blue. I couldn't improve on this truck if I wanted to. Even the cup holders adjust to any size cup and will never lose grip. I'm in love with my truck because it's a pleasure to drive. There has never been a better truck made so if you don't like how the ram rides get a CAR NOT A TRUCK! And don't even mention gas mileage because every make gets about the SAME MILEAGE. If you don't like it then why would you buy it? DRIVE IT
Best P/U I have ever Had
RHSteele, 05/30/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 2dr Regular Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Great truck.....I love it.
Need more Horsepower ?
Jack Tharp, 04/10/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Outstanding Look's, feel and ride. However, in the performance of the 5.9 it's down on get-up. Matched with poor fuel economy this will be the only down fall of this truck. I was a long term GM Truck customer. I miss the power and economy of the Vortec V-8. In my opinion GM,Ford cannot compete with this Dodge look!!
So far so good
mikes_h&k45, 11/01/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 2dr Regular Cab ST 2WD SB (3.7L 6cyl 5M)
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My Ram is a short bed single cab with the 4.7 V-8. The only options I have are auto trans.CD, tilt, cruise, AC, V- 8. I have 11,548 miles now and I have had one problem. The AM band quit working on my radio. It was quickly replaced and now works fine. I love the sound of the exhaust straight from the factory. A good throaty growl. Plenty of power too. I tested them all. Dodge was the best value. In my humble opinion.
Killer Looks and Bad Gas Mileage
Gomez, 06/17/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Killer looks but bad gas mileage. I thought the 20" wheels would save gas but I have not been able to get more than 9 miles/gallon in the city. I would not recommend this vehicle if your commute to work is more that 10 miles (mine is 2 and I still complain). I never found any manufacturer or dealer ad stating how bad the gas mileage would be. Now I know why.
Love this truck
Me, 02/07/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD LB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I am first time truck owner and I love it
I love this guy !!!!
Flyingmice, 08/04/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 2dr Regular Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I'm TX resident and my job gets me traveled a lot weekly. The pickup helps me much on roads. this is handled well and very stable in highspeed. one time this got a breakdown last May when I was on rough roads. this trouble is sort of gas pipe inside. I solved this myselft and my agency checked it out later and say nothing serious.
Cool Ride
Iceman, 03/20/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I had a Dodge Dakota prior for over 7 years and it treated me great. Now they are smaller with the new design. I had to stepup to the BIG BOY, I LOve to drive it had over 3000 miles in less than 2 months. The changes to the 2002 model are for the best, it's a Excellant Adventure!!!
Great truck
Jim in texas, 08/08/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Great ride, great looking, great sounding: this is a TRUCK. I am in Texas and I purchased the Lone Star Edition which includes the 20" wheels. Gas mileage could be better, but it's not an issue with me. Everyone who rides the truck likes how high it is... Probably will get some step bars for my wife and others...
King of all Trucks
glen, 01/04/2008
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Bought this truck with only a 1500 dollar rebate.. now they have 6000 dollar rebates. But guess what just finished paying for it and I dont need another vehicle because it is still working great! At the time had a seven year 100,000 mile powertrain..I took the complete warranty ..did use it on the windows and some minor radiator repairs. Now tempted on the lifetime warranty but the gas might prohibit me from keeping it twenty years if I only use it to drive! Still lifetime warranty on a truck is might tempting.. especially since the first one off the line has had so much good reviews and results. 5.9 engine has been great.. wouldnt have a 4.7 if gas was the same.. kudos Dodge.
Outstanding
Adam2, 05/02/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 2dr Regular Cab ST 2WD SB (3.7L 6cyl 5M)
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I owned a 97' Dodge SS/T 5.9L 360, Let me tell you, don't be affraid of the 4.7L its just as fast. The truck rides just like a car(very smooth) The interior is sweet. I have owned this truck for 2 days now and everyone I have seen wants one or are jealous.
We Love It!!!
smithers, 08/17/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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We bought our maroon quad cab in April, 2002 and it has been a wonderful truck for us. We have three sons ages 16, 14, and 10 and they all can ride very comfortably. It is the best riding truck we have ever owned. And the look is so stylish. Heads are always turning!!!
used to be a chevy man
bill howard, 06/02/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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i used to be a chevy man but after our purchase of a 2000 z-71 and being in the shop every month... need i say more about that. our purchase of a 2002 ram quad cab 4wd leaves us to wonder why havent we been driving them alot longer. i just hope our next several years of useing this truck will be as pleasant as the first month.
Great Truck
mdrowl, 09/05/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Very good handling ,rides nice.Very car like interior. Exterior big truck like. No problem with anything.Just needs a little more power.
Bought it used
chris, 07/12/2009
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I'm not sure what to say other then get a warranty. I bought my Ram used and have had nothing but problems with it. I'm not sure if it was abused before me but is surley abusing me. I bought it with 47,000 miles and have replaced the motor, rear end, radiator, and now have to replace the AC condenser fan and a control module. The check engine light is on more then off. Love the truck but it is getting pricey to keep and the warranty which covers very little is almost up.
Best truck Yet
Nit1195, 09/10/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Best truck I have ever owned. I cant say enough about it. I true winner from the Dodge boys
This truck fits
R. Winsor, 05/04/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Steering – big improvement, and the manual transmission shifts nicely and has a decent set of ratios. The clutch is nice, too. The 4.7L engine is a good mate for this tranny, but it has a lower than expected toque feel at the lower rpms. No biggie, I just need to relearn the shifting and acceleration methods. Towers using this engine should try the higher ratio diff. The ride height is excellent. The shorter bed is an excellent comprimise with the rear cab space. The storage spaces are great - although the brochure is somewhat misleading - talk to your dealer. Driven 500 miles so far. Mileage: City ~15, hwy ~18 - better than EPA! It does not "feel" as large as it is.
Great Family Truck
specter, 09/22/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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My wife and I like this truck a lot. We are both over 6 feet tall and drove several SUV type vehicles. NONE had the room the RAM does, and it has a bed to boot. Great for the little woman to go out and bring home lots of stuff from local yard sales. I also feel a lot better knowing that our baby is being wrapped in American steel.
Good solid truck
noodle, 04/18/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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The new Dodge Ram 1500 truck is a very solid truck. Most trucks in it's class do not match the stock height of the Ram 1500 4 X 4. I love the interrior of this truck. A few months ago I moved and the rear cargo area of the truck came in very handy because of the extra space in the back. She steel floor is great when folded down. This creats a flat surface, this way things are level and safe. Also if the rear passengers are over 6 feet long they have plenty of leg room in the back which Chevy,GMC and Ford do not have.
Impressed
chemsear, 11/09/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Never had a Dodge but not impressed with the price of a Ford. After driving for a few days I'm blown away by the ride, no rattles, good power, and great 4 wheeling. The only part not impressed with is the transmission. A cruise through the mountains of Colorado shows the tranny has no idea what it's doing, always shifting, even with overdrive off. It offered 2500RPM and losing speed or push on the throttle and 4500 RPM to speed up, but nothing in between for mountain inclines. Needs some tweaking but works fine for South TX driving.
worst mistake of my life
frankelwood, 10/14/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 2dr Regular Cab ST 2WD LB (3.7L 6cyl 5M)
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Top speed flat out on the floor with no load 75 MPH. I shift down for every tiny little hill.Its the slowest doggiest vehicle I ever owned and for this lack of power I am rewarded with 17MPG. Dodge has managed to combine the power of a 2 liter with the gas mileage of a 360 cu.in.
awesome!
dodgeman57, 06/13/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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this is one bad a** truck! inside, its a luxury car, outside, its big-rig styling that says "get the hell out of my way!" all in all, its an excellent vehicle in terms of reliability, overall design and build quality. wish they'd put the Hemi in soon though!
Bad Ass Flame Red Truck
Tim Edwards, 10/16/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Love this truck have always been Chevy Freak thought I'd give dodge a try. $5000 less than a Chevy and 0% fin. for 5 yrs. you can't beat it!!!!
Nice truck!! 02 Dodge Ram Quad SB 4x4
Sweet, 06/25/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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This is my 3rd truck, but my 1st Dodge. I have nothing but praise for this vehicle. Everything in it is easily found and usable the quality of this truck is the best american made I've seen yet. The ride is very smooth and tight for a large truck. The 4.7 engine pushes you around with no problem. Dodge has come along way with its product and I WILL HAPPILY BUY ANOTHER ONE.
Best decision I ever made.....
Rick in Virginia, 10/12/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I traded was a 2000 Tahoe that I really liked. I bought a motorcycle so I wanted something to haul it around with and my service experiences with Chevy were terrible. After seeing the website showing the Dodge I had to try one since I couldn't really see the vehicle in the commercials. What a smart decision, six months later and I still love this truck. Rides great, plenty of power and looks awesome. The dealership, even after the sale, has been great and I have had no problems with this truck. My dad would probably shoot me for buying a Dodge but if he were around to drive it he would have probably traded his Ford...maybe.
2002 dodge ram 1500 quad cab 5.9
mike bob, 10/22/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Runs good handles great so far we like it. However it has poor gas milage. Very good heating and A/C. Rides like a car. Also can fit our four-wheeler in the back of it.
love it
richard-o, 11/10/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I love the 4.7 it is fast.I get 14.7 mpg,and I have a very heavy foot.You well leave Fords and Chevys eating your dust.I went from a Saturn SC2 which took courners great,this truck can do just as good.It's tight in the cruves and rides like a car on flat roads.Every time someone see's me get out of it,they allways tell me what a great looking truck.Red quad cab.
Big White Beast
Mikeylikesit30, 04/23/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Ok, never had a Dodge product and was sorta reluctant to buy one until I saw the New Mayor. I drove a quad SLT with the sport package and then went to visit Chevy and Ford. Sorry for the bow tie guys and the Ford tough guys but this Mopar is amazing. The 4.7 could use a boost of a few horses and that big huge piece of hair under the paint on the passenger door wasn't needed but... every vehichle on the road will solicit a few complaints. I love this thing. IT ROCKS!!!
Best I've ever owned (#1 of 12)
ironmtn, 06/28/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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My Dodge Ram 1500 SLT plus Crew Cab Sport 4X4, with the 5.9L is the perfect truck except for the gas mileage. My Mileage is about 12 mpg with mostly to and from work (elevation climb of 1300 feet). The trailer towing package even has dual wiring harnesses. Very tough truck, I backed over a cement curb into a drainage ditch, and high centered on my driveshaft, springs and muffler. Wheels were 12 off of ground. I rolled down a boulder, placed it under the back wheels, put in 4 wheel drive lock and pulled right off. The amazing thing is there was not even a scratch on the body, or undercarriage.
Better than Chevy and Ford
thestuff, 11/05/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 2dr Regular Cab ST 4WD LB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I've had my Ram now for about 6 months. This is by far the best truck I've ever owned. I've always been a Chevy guy myself, but... after testing Chevy's 1500, Ford's F-150 and the Toyota Tundra, I decided to try the Dodge. I bought it that day. Tough, reliable, comfortable, stylish, it offers everything one would need in a pickup truck. I had never thought about buying the Dodge, but now, I'm telling everyone to buy one! This is the best truck I've ever driven (in my 27 years of driving) bar none. Check it out, you won't be disappointed.
grrreat!!!
adrian leon, 06/23/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 2dr Regular Cab ST 2WD LB (3.7L 6cyl 5M)
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this is a good truck will phenomenal styling, comfort, and quality. i think that the reputation of being cheap need not apply any longer. comparable to the chevy. better than the ford. good deal.
So Far So Good
Dillon, 05/15/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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So far so good. I only have 800 miles on this truck. The interior room out beat Ford, Toyota, Chevy, and GMC trucks. Ive owned Fords since I was a kid and finally made a switch that was well worth it. Dodge was the only one with a 7 year, 100,000 mile warranty on the engine and drive train. That made my final decision.
Nice Truck
Gateway, 05/15/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD LB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Just bought a Dodge Quad Cab, the truck is not bad. They design is awsome, the gas milage well if you want more then 18 miles to the gallon on the highway buy a ford or a Chevy. The engine is ok, you do not feel any lag when turning the ac on. You can get your motorcycle in it, with the gate down, and secure it just fine. The interior is not bad some of the fittings are cheep but over all the truck is solid.
Best bang for the buck
phoneguy, 07/03/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 2dr Regular Cab ST 4WD LB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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Have had this 2dr 4x4 4.7L auto 8' box truck for 6 months now. I love it. It had done everything I have asked of it. like everyone else the gas mailage needs improved. I live in a very hilly area & get 11.6 in the city & 17.5 on the highway. also the transmision shifts alot on the hills as well, that needs improvement. But the looks are sharp, the ride is excelent for a 6000 lb truck & the few problems I have had were corrected very quickly. this truck also has lots of interior room even for a standard cab. I researched trucks heavily for 3 months before I bought the new Ram & by far it is the best built & running for the dollar you pay.
Ram turning heads
BLKCLD5150, 05/15/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD LB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I've had my Ram Quad for 3 weeks and I can say without a doubt that this is the best large truck w/4 doors out there. The best thing about the Ram is that it has long time Ford/Chevy loyalists actually admitting that Dodge has hit a home run. It kills them to admit this. Everything from the engine to the standard 17" wheels gets great feedback. The 4.7 is more than enough engine.
I Luv It
gbecker, 07/03/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I have enjoyed my new truck. A truck I can fit in with my family. Great over design
Comfort...NOT economical
smurf, 07/04/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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The ride and comfort of this truck is better than other trucks in its class. The gas milage is the WORST in its class though. I would not recommend this truck simply because of the cost for gas it cost to operate. I would be willing to sacrifice a little comfort for better MPG with a different manufacture.
great lookin truck
graypoppabear97, 04/03/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 2WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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I originally owned a 2001 ram sport for a short time then traded in for the new ram and have since been more than satisfied. The ride is smooth, the tranny feels great, and the 20" wheels really set off the look of the truck overall. And dont be affraid of getting the smaller 4.7 ... it has plenty of get up and go for anyone, I like mine a lot..
Best Ram yet
Kurt Hanson, 04/26/2002
2002 Dodge Ram Pickup 1500 4dr Quad Cab ST 4WD SB (4.7L 8cyl 5M)
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The interior roominess is great. The new four-door configuration is a big improvement over my 99 Quad Cab. The 20" wheel package is a real eye catcher as is the bigger, bolder grill. The Sport is especially head turning.