The only reason I leased the Windstar was the fact that I couldn't get the Honda Odessey. The lease on the Windstar similar to the Odessey since the residual is so much better on the Honda. The Windstar has been in the shop 4 times now for recalls. The steering fluid pump had to be replaced, as well as the ignition control module. The Windstar might be safe, but not very good. I'm glad I don't own it. The rear bench is very heavy, and should really be removed with 2 people.