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Ok I've had this car for nearly 20k miles now and I'm loving it. When I first purchased the car, the dealer had to update the software for my bluetooth to work with my phone. Not long after that, Sprint/HTC sent an update and now the phone is perfectly integrated with the car. I had an issue with the sunroof making a "popping" noise when I hit a bump or entered ... Read More
super car - had one for 5 years it was purrrfect. Watch out for the ones pre 2000 - they had issues with timing chain tensioners and the nikasil bore problems - there is an engine number after which all is well, sadly I don't have this any more. Having said that, my car was a 99 and the engine was smooth and quiet and never missed a beat. Sold it ... Read More
I don't think Ford dealers ever serviced Jaguars, except for the odd used one bought at a Ford dealer. Lots of service centers can service Jaguars...it doesn't necessarily have to be a dealer. The 2004 and up XJ is classified as a large car. The 2003 and before was considered mid-size by the EPA. The legroom in a regular wheelbase XJ now is within half an inch of the amount offered ... Read More
Thanks for your response hofiii! It seems like there are some conflicting reports regadring when Jaguar stopped using the Nikasil engines. What I found in my research was, that if the last 6 places of the VIN start with the letter 'F', then the vehicle does not use Nikasil and is fitted with steel liners. According to this the '01 i was looking at does NOT have the Nikasil. Do you ... Read More
I would seriously consider the 03 because it is only 1K more and you would not have any chance of purchasing an auto with a potential Nikasil problem. It was a known problem for late 97 - 01 4.0L V8 Jaguars and BMWs as well. The nikasil liner was abolished by the '02 -'03 models. You can read about it on the internet if you'd like. Also, I'd like to suggest ... Read More
I am currently looking at two XJ8 (the VDP's I looked at recently were both crappy). One is a 2001 with 40k miles, one owner, a former Jaguar lease bought by a used car dealer specialized on Jags from Jaguar credit. It has a clean carfax and was always Jaguar serviced. The 2003 has 50k miles, is also a one owner car but there are no service records (neither in the ... Read More
The Jaguar XJ 2006 remains one of the best luxury cars you can buy. It also appears to be one of the best values, at least in terms of price paid for the luxury it exudes. When a Jaguar XJ rolls up, it makes a statement of true luxury. The XJ is a truly beautiful luxury car, with lithe, elegant lines that ooze class and sex appeal, and its luxurious cabin ... Read More
I am thinking of buying a 1999-2003 Jaguar XJ8 but have reservations because of the posts I have seen on this board. Can anyone tell me what to expect? I would appreciate any replies.
Hi, I am a newby in this forum and would appreciate some advice or help. I am looking into a 2002 or 2003 XJ8 either Sport or VDP but I am little bit worried about reliability and cost of repair/service. Can anybody give me some advice? I currently have two MB's (C280, ML350) and did not really have any problems. How does the Jag compare? How are the Jaguar dealers in ... Read More
Hi, I am a newbie in this forum and would appreciate some advice or help. I am looking into a 2002 or 2003 XJ8 either Sport or VDP but I am little bit worried about reliability and cost of repair/service. Can anybody give me some advice? I currently have two MB's (C280, ML350) and did not really have any problems. How does the Jag compare? How are the Jaguar dealers in ... Read More
I purchased a second hand 1998 XJ8 Vanden Plais from Jaguar dealer in 2002-2003. It had 43,000 miles. We've spent over $15,000 on repairs. Transmission was redone, a/c and other major problems fixed. Now my car is in the shop. Check engine light came on before and never came back. Dealer said maybe crank shaft--cost anywhere between $2500 to $6000. I love my car. No car can beat the style and ... Read More
Surely you're not going to go for this about the SL being so old and not recognizable from the CLK? The SL is on the streets in good numbers because it has been out since 2003, its called success. It is easy to say that they're "everywhere" compared to a brand new Jaguar that doesn't sell in the same numbers as a car in its 5th model year. Of course I ... Read More
This about the LS430 beating the LS460 is pure nonsense. The LS430 was compared to a different Jaguar and a different Mercedes, why can't you allow that at least 2 of the cars in that comparo have moved the game on, especially a brand new S-Class? Hey, I agree that the S is winning the "Battle of the Comps". But I think the S and the LS are the only totally ... Read More
I haven't really been reading what all the fuss is about with the surveys this time around, but I do think JDP should have broken the IQS into two surveys because certain brands (like BMW) rank differently when you break down the two categories they used this year: A little something I saw on MBWorld.org, someone posted the breakout for the study: Auto news More rankings June 8, 2006 Email this ... Read More
I left out Jaguar in my Tier system. I'd have to put it 2nd, or make Lincoln 4th-tier, and Jaguar 3rd-tier. Call it a lower-2nd-tier! Dynamically, the XJ may be near the top of it's class, but talk about hearing a collective YAWN from the public! No interest or buzz. I could tell it was gonna be a dud at the 2003 NYIAS. X-type and S-type have drawn similar apathy. Ford ... Read More
Thank you SO MUCH for your message regarding the brake/sudden acceleration problem. This happened to me, too! I had leased a 2003 Jaguar S-Type for 39 months. Other than having the transmission replaced by Jag, car was fine, so I just re-leased it for another 27 months. Just 5 days into the new lease, I was easying on the brake into a parking space when the car would not stop. I ... Read More
Hi Everyone, Diesel is a great technology. In Europe 50% of all new cars sold are Diesels. It's not a perfect solution, but a practical one to the current gas woes. This talk about Lexus hiking prices is crazy. Lexus has always appealed to the "Objective" buyer. Oppressive price hikes would simply eliminate the Value that the LS has over the S Class. I would have bought a S Class a ... Read More
I am going to be in the market to buy a used car near the $20,000 range. I thought about a used Acura but I realy like the looks and styling of a Jaguar. Looking around I found a certified 2003 x-type with 43,000 miles for 19,9, a certified 2002 x-type with 23000 for the same money and a non cerified 2001 XJ8 for 19, 900 as well with 43,000 miles. ... Read More
Hi All, I wish the new XJ had taken a new design direction. It looks like an old high school friend that has put on some weight. It doesn't have the grace of the 2003 XJ. Contrary to popular belief the 98-03 XJ was a fairly reliable car. They had a problem with Nikasil lined engines, but that was limited to the 98-00 models. They are lovely cars with pitiful resale ... Read More
As for the LS400 The 1990-1994 had a flair to me. I remember a line from a Car and Driver review of the 1995 that said it lacked the flair of the less perfect model. That car was too antiseptic to me. There are some posters on here which have commented about Lexus acknowledging that the revision was too conservative. The original model was a timeless design, a la Jaguar. Look ... Read More
hey potolock . . . this is 2006 . . . did you just reply to a post from Oct 25, 2003 ? . . . have you been "away" for a while, or am I missing something here? ;)
The Lexus LS beat the MB S in head to head competition. Please englighten me with the facts? It appears the world and myself are quite ignorant. You asked, and I am pleased to inform: Better be ready with excuses.... 1) 2004 Motor Trend Comparo (1st = A8L, 2nd = LS430) http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/luxury/112_0409_class/index14.html 2) 2004 Car and Driver $70K sedan comparo (1st = LS430) Ranking (last place = S430) 6. Mercedes-Benz S430, ... Read More
We can debate all day long as to whether Idrive, Park Assist and what not are "gimmicks". In the end it really doesn't matter because this is where the luxury car is going and more importantly it keeps luxury cars above "regular" cars. I don't consider it "copying" when one company adds a feature to one of their cars that a competitor already had - that is common sense. My problem ... Read More
I purchased a 2003 XJR, platinum ext, w/blk interior from a Jaguar Dealership 7 months ago. At the time of purchase the car only had 12,404 miles (one owner) and now has 14,324 miles. I also have a 2003 BMW 330CI and 2003 Mercedes Benz E320 that we use as daily drivers. I wanted the 03 Jag because i've always admired them for their beauty and grace and thought the 04 ... Read More
To further illustrate my point: This is the old XJ8: http://www.vipmotorcars.com/images/2003_Jaguar_XJ8_35k/26.JPG This is the new XJ8. Other than little chrome strips around the door handle and window switches, pretty much nothing was done. http://p1.autorevo.com/377/pics/13921_84dcabe0-fbbf-4753-9b3a-20a76db0b606.jpg
What I meant was, if it wasn't for these corporate parents and the injection of capital, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, Rolls, would probably be plagued with reliability problems and have already gone bankrupt. Well that is basically what I stated in my previous post, except for that reliability part. I don't see here is how their reliablity has made any difference when they never traded on reliability in the first place. Secondly, ... Read More
The1995-1997 XJ6 Jags were well engineered models in my opinion. They didn't have the reliability problems of prior models, however, the 1998-2003 XJ8's are the vehicles of choice. I would drive any of them, especially models after 2000. They enhanced the steering response and suspension of the 2000-2003 models that made the car even nicer to drive. I wouldn't touch a 2004 with a 10 foot pole. I cannot believe that ... Read More
I think the front end of the 2003 Jaguar RD-6 would look nice on the next aluminum S-Type. Here is a link to the 2003 Jaguar RD-6 2003 Jaguar RD-6
Though I did like the XJS way back in the day, I really never really gave Jaguars too much thought until the 1997 XK8 showed up. Then came the 2000 S-Type and now the 2004 XJ. The XK is still as timeless as day one. Remarkable. The 2000-2002 S-Type was not up to the Jaguar name imo. The cheap Ford touches were everywhere. Then for 2003 the car got its first ... Read More
There is an interview with Mark White, the senior body structures manager for Jaguar and Land Rover vehicles, who says that the XJ is profitable. The next XK, which will have to comply with new European pedestrian regulations, will use the new XJ's aluminum chassis, but will likely use conventional springs instead of the XJ's air suspension. The next XK will cut costs by spreading the costs of the investement in ... Read More
The next Jaguar S-Type will likely use the new XJ's aluminum chassis and have styling cues from the 2001 Jaguar R Coupe and the 2003 Jaguar RD-6. I think the grille and headlights need some work, but it looks nice. The Jaguar Advanced Lightweight Coupe shows what the next XK might look like. The next XK will have to comply with new European pedestrian safety regulations. The next XK will use ... Read More
Consumer Reports had the largest response to its latest annual auto reliability survey ever, allowing the nonprofit organization to compile reliability portraits on more than 810,000 vehicles, up from 675,000 vehicles in 2003 and 480,000 in 2002. This is the second year in a row that Consumer Reports surveyed subscribers to both its magazine and its web site, www.ConsumerReports.org, a total of more than 5 million consumers throughout the U.S. The ... Read More
- check for Nikasil problems in the engine. It affects 1998-2000 XJs. - Brembo brakes came standard on the 2002 XJR 100 along with BBS wheels. The "100" celebrated the 100 anniversary of the birth of Jaguar's founder, Sir William Lyons. Brembo brakes also came with the optional R1 package on the 2003 XJR along with BBS wheels. - check for timing chain tensioners for 1998-2000 XJs
"Can you provide your views of the Chicago auto show ? I am sure you'll have a lot of interesting viewpoints at what's going on in the auto world. Looking forward to reading your report. In the middle of all of this I've almost forgotten what I saw there!!!! Well I must preface this with the fact that Chicago isn't what Detroit is in presentation or brands represented. Chicago ... Read More
Question: what is this list? A. Most admired cars B. Motor Trend's Cars of the Year C. Cars most preferred by driving enthusiasts D. Most unreliable sedans made MAKE MODEL Average Price 1 Mercedes-Benz S-Class $100,000 2 Jaguar S-Type 51,000 3 BMW 7 Series 94,000 4 Jaguar X-Type 33,000 5 Mercedes-Benz E-Class 64,000 6 Mercedes-Benz C-Class(V6) 40,000 7 Volvo S60 (AWD) 32,000 8 Saab 9-3 35,000 9 Pontiac Grand ... Read More
I bought a 95 xj6 in May of 2003 with 77,000 miles and have loved it ever since. Seat position is a bit quirky, but I can't tell you how much I love the torque of that straight six. My son and I would often look for a reason to take the car out. He owns a Maxima with their great 3 liter v-6, but this straight six Jag is something ... Read More
Having leased the 2004 VDP last week(Slate-Ivory),(my fourth Jaguar), I wanted to pass along some info. I had the 1993 XJ-6 but only for a year. Have (still) the 1995 VDP with many, many repairs. Never got stranded ,but did I pay the dealer serious cash over the years.(The price of luxury! I guess!). Last year we got the S-type(2003) which has great ride manners and refinement in the Jaguar tradition. ... Read More
I just wanted to let you know (nvbanker), and anyone else interested, that the transmission in the XJ, XJS, and XK8 and current S-type are made by ZF, a German firm. The ZF transmissions in Jags before 2003 were used by Mercedes as well. Also, Ford bought Jaguar in 1989, not '98. GM transmissions were used in Jags briefly in the 80's. I work for a Jaguar dealer in England at ... Read More
Dieselbreath, Good post. I have a neighbor who swears by Diesel VW's. he's been driving one since the late 70's. I must say I'm impressed by his mid 90's Passat wagon. It's a nicely built machine. I only brought up the Toyota diesel to illustrate your point on how far along diesels have come. Diesel just never caught on here, but are widespread in Europe. I guess relatively cheap gasoline doesn't ... Read More
Speaking of comparision tests... There is one in the Aug issue of Car and Driver. The Mercedes CL600 beat that overweight and awful looking Bentley Continental GT and the gorgeous Aston-Martin DB9, but lost to the Ferrari 612 Scagletti. A Mercedes coming in second to a Ferrari, but beating Aston and Bentley is the way it is supposed to be. The 612 costs double the price of the CL600. The CL600 ... Read More
I had been meaning to ask you what you thought of the facelifted 2005 XK cars? I really like what they've done to the lower body. I've seen a coupe in White and a convertible XKR this very rick looking Blue, absolutely stunning. No arguement about the interior, asthetically it was all Jaguar. The Germans then were just leather appointed board rooms in which to conduct the "business" of driving. I ... Read More
"Do you think that if Mercedes went back to their former style that Lexus "copied" they would sell a lot more cars." I'm not sure actually. I think design wise they've never been better with the exception of the CLK and Maybach. Neither of those cars "look" like they should imo. I also think the SL could stand a few less frivolous details like on the sides and hood, but overall ... Read More
"MB prices are higher than Lexus (and Infiniti and others) because their cars cost more to produce, sell and service. Their production processes aren't as efficient as Toyota's nor their ability to manage their supply chain as good. " I agree with all of this, but that wasn't what we were talking about here. My point for the last couple of days has been that a few on this board are ... Read More
I bought my 1998 XJ8 (anthracite/black) two months ago with 50K on the clock. It's going in this week for an oil change with 54K miles, and highly enjoyable ones, too. I'll be using an honest and competent Jag specialty shop -- like most enthusiast owners I avoid the dealer service departments whenever possible. They're exorbitantly expensive for routine operations like oil changes, and prone to swapping components rather than repairing ... Read More
First of all my recent post wasn't meant to be a sermon . I was just getting a little intimidated about posting my opinions. I'm fascinated about how people differ in how much effort they are willing to put into using their cars. Admittedly I vascilate. Sometimes I want to drive my C4S. All I want is a wheel, clutch, shift and brake. Don't bother me with even the radio. Other ... Read More
For some reason, I am not too thrilled with this Jaguar. I have to say, I was impressed with the X Type, the S Type and am in love with the XK. I also loved the 2003 XJ--a real classy vehicle. But the 2004 XJ just doesn't give me the "classy Jaguar" feel. There is something about it that makes this car unappealing to me. I haven't figured out what it ... Read More
Wow, you know what Mike, thats typical. Read the post again, very slowly....everyone else got that I was talking about the car mags except you. It clearly states in sentence #6 that I'm talking about the car mags. Read the entire paragraph before posting. ljflx, "The reason the auto mags don't want to deal with reliabilty in their analysis is partly because the last thing they want to do is bring ... Read More
i know what it feels like to be a fire victim (my wife and i were affected by a fire many many years ago). my heart goes out to all thoses who were affected. i am certainly glad to hear that your parents/friend's family are not harmed. airmatic-- i never knew that you owned an SL55? did you mean SL500? 2003-model year? what a coincidence: we both drive the same cars! ... Read More
from JDP: "While Japanese-branded vehicles continue to dominate in terms of long-term vehicle quality, the Europeans have lost their edge over the U.S. domestic-branded vehicles... The 2003 study, which measures problems reported by original owners of 2000 model-year vehicles at three years of ownership, finds that although there is near parity between U.S. Domestics and Europeans in terms of initial quality, substantial quality gaps appear between the Domestics and the Europeans ... Read More
I was wrong, when comparing 2003 models, the A8 has highest horsepower. Lexus has highest torque. MB and Jag trail. When 2004's are out for all models we can revisit. Both Jag and Audi are up in 04 from 03. I supposed MB and Lex will be too. For those of you for whom seeing is believing, links follow: From the following sites: Lexus, MB and Edmunds Click to follow to ... Read More
...simple hoods. "The aluminum frame can't be that big an obstacle, can it?" Oh no, my friend, it is a huge issue... The big issues with aluminum repair are that it is VERY different and therefore more difficult to do/requires different skills and tools (at least $10,000 worth per body shop) than traditional steel repair, it is much more time consuming, and that aluminum repair must occur in a fully closed-off ... Read More
I picked up my new 2003 Q 45 one week ago. I want to report that I am totally awed by the car. It is without question the finest car I have ever driven. It is much better in every respect then I thought it would be. I cannot believe that another car is superior in some meaningful aspect, one that a driver would actually feel. I am also grateful to ... Read More
Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone has heard anything about the reliability reports of the New XJ. Has the new car been spared the gremlins of the X & S Type launches? To level with you all, I'm a Lexus owner in denial. I like my car, but every time I see a 1995-2003 XJ8 drive past my head turns. There really isn't anything else that has the flair of a ... Read More
Some recent US sales data: Make Model May 2003 May 2002 2003 YTD 2002 YTD Mercedes-Benz S-Class 1,989 2,002 9,281 8,642 BMW 7 Series 1,973 2,209 8,358 8,888 Lexus LS 430 1,848 2,451 8,003 10,777 Cadillac Seville 1,773 1,524 9,494 8,967 Volvo S80 1,399 1,121 5,826 6,407 Jaguar S-Type 1,388 1,246 5,965 5,820 Lexus GS 300 1,058 1,233 4,236 5,911 Jaguar XJ Series 930 801 2,386 3,594 Saab 9-5 763 1,202 ... Read More
Merc, I never mentioned the S-Class's name in that taxi statement - it's an old tired joke; BMW's and even Jaguars are used as taxis in Europe too, but Germany is the country known for using what Americans consider the highest mass-produced luxury (i.e. - not Rolls or Maybach, but the step below, which is this class) whether it be Benz, Jag, or Bimmer as taxis - there are also Jaguar ... Read More
Well to tell you the truth I really couldn't get a good detailed look at the new XJ. Though from what I saw of it looked just like the old car, only larger. Jaguar only had one on a stand and it was all silver, you know that pure aluminum look. The one on the floor was crowded by people so there was no chance to get a "perspective". I've been ... Read More
zachmbenzfvr, 10-month waiting list? wake-up and walk down to a Benz dealer. One of the biggest markets for luxury cars(Connecticut) has virtually no wait for the new E-class. To put it in perspective, my cousin recently purchased a brand new 2003 E320 and drove it home the same day. He also got about $2.5K off MSRP. On top of that, the dealer he bought his car from said, he could have ... Read More
"I've never read so much ranting about nothing. When are you going to realize that the Japanese idea of luxury isn't everybody's. You admit that it's not an issue with a Porsche, but yet you can't understand that Mercedes (across the street) from Porsche was also under the same thinking at the time. If you're going to harp about CD players with cars as basically good as BMW, MB and Audi ... Read More
I was speaking in terms of what Mercedes has in relation to Acura. Did I say Mercedes had active suspension first? No, I didn't. Not to burst your bubble either, but since you want to go into who was "first" it wasn't Infiniti. It was a certain French brand, uh Citroen. Years before the Japanese even got a clue. The retracting hardtop was done "first" again by Ford in the 1950's, ... Read More
Your funny jabs aside, Mercedes tries to cater to both. Successfully, not always. No matter what Mercedes says they're cars are still skewed towards the luxury crowd. This is also true of their AMG cars. Pure enthusaist are still going to pick a BMW. 1487, One thing you are is consistent. You always turn around and tell us what you "didn't" say right after you've been proven wrong. What was the ... Read More
You've somehow let the others confuse you. Where did I use "ownership experience" in any of MY posts? Though since you bring up the concept, why don't you take a look at the SL500 board and see what the owners have to say. Are you saying that every SL has to go back to the dealer and that all MB dealers are arrogant? If that is the case all of Cadillac's ... Read More
I am Hopefully closing on the deal for a 1999 XJ8 Monday. The car has 47000 miles on it and is still under Jaguar warranty until March 2003 - Since I only drive about 5000 miles a year, I will not reach the 50000 until after then. This is the first jaguar I have ever owned, even though I have always wanted the car. I was concerned because people say they ... Read More
Check out this article on the 2003 S-Class. It talks about true "Innovations" like Pre-Safe. The article asserts that the "...Even so, with the debut of the 2003 updates, the S-Class is quite likely to maintain its standing at the head of its class." http://thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=5279&n=157,183&sid=183 While your at it, try this one... http://thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=5213&n=157,183&sid=183 In regards to interior it says "...The displays are quite classy, though surprisingly simple in design, especially compared ... Read More
I have been a Jag fan since the 50's when one of the guys in our sports car club had a D-Jag and was it hot. Me - I was young and could only afford an MGA. After owning a series of used MG's and TR's for four decades, I finally sold my last TR-7 because I was getting tired of shifting and putting up and down the top. But even ... Read More
"The same is true of Rolls-Royce and BMW, and Jaguar/Aston Martin and the PAG" in post #1449 That statement in your post is vague and anyone would easily assume of what you said was true so be careful of what you say next time. That was why I corrected you since it came from the horses mouth. "My last post said that BMW has ownership of Rolls-Royce, just as the Premiere ... Read More
Nope, VW owns both until Jan 1, 2003. BMW then takes full ownership of RR. They are building a new factory and a new car for 2003. Quite a task. The British kill me, they are so stuck on their cars, but when RR, Bentley, Jaguar and others got into trouble, their precious government did nothing. That is so ridiculous for them to be that uppity about RR and yet it ... Read More
I was recently at my local Jaguar dealership and one of the salespeople told me that the new XJ was not going to be debuted until April 2003 at the NYC or Detroit, I can't remember which, auto show. Is this old news? I was under the impression that the debut was to take place in September 2002 in Paris.
Jaguar has excellent safety profiles. This is obviously confirmed by your tragic accident but fortunate in its outcome. The latest news "on the street" is that the current xj series will be replaced in , I believe, 2002-2003. This new xj is being designed with very innovative safety considerations (perhaps, on the example of the Volvo (also, owned by Ford and to which its design team has input). In any case, ... Read More
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