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2002 Saab 9-5 Consumer Discussions
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Saab 9-5 Sedan
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Re: Purchased Used 9-5 ?? [shack502]
This is a late post considering your initial post date, but I hope you snatched up that gem for that kind of price! I am now on my 3rd used SAAB and knock on wood, my out of pocket expense has been minimal. I can say without question that they have been the most reliable and predictable cars I have ever owned. One of my best friends has a 900 5 ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Climate Control Questions
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Re: 1998 SAAB 9-5 heater problem [jonnyboy001]
There are quite a few Technical Service Bulletins on this problem related to the air mixing damper shaft within the heating/AC system. The dealer should be able to readily call up all the instructions he needs to fix the problem. Looks like some little plasticky parts are involved and maybe an hour labor---at least just from looking at the instructions. So maybe couple hundred bucks? Reference Bulletin No.: 854-2577 Date: December ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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2002 9-5 wagon...good idea or not?
I am in the market for a new car, I have test drove a couple of these cars....and love them! I am coming off of a BMW 528 wagon, which I will miss dearly, but it is not in my budget right now to buy another. I know that Saabs can be pricey to repair, but over all, what are some of the major issues with that year? Also, are those ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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Re:
Can I just bemoan the fact that my 2002 9-5 Arc V6, which cost me 33k new, is worthless about now? Maybe someone will tell me no worries, that I got good value out of it. I dunno. Right now I'm really pissy about it. Feeling like if I had a BMW or Lexus, my car would be worth far more, and enough more to easily make up the difference in ... Read More
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Re: Car stutters while on highway, stops at lights [jwooda33]
I've had a similar problem with my 2002 Saab 9-5 (with ~68K miles on it). Symptoms sounded exactly like yours - had it checked by a mechanic when the check engine light came on eventually. It was caused by a faulty crankshaft position sensor. Got it replaced, car seems to behaving well now. Should cost you ~ $120, not too bad. Do get it changed - the good news is that ... Read More
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Just bought 2007 9.5 Aero Combi
Dealer in Maine took $6,777 off sticker, I test drove the car(25 miles on the clock) and fell in love. Have owned a 2000 and 2002 ARC sedans, both with V-6's. I did not know what I was missing. (But, I had basically zero problems with both cars, despite all the neg. comments on the V-6) Seats, power, handling, braking, HK sound system all super. Options include Visibility package, metallic (Titan ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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Re: Recurring Steering Problem [zoozeek]
I bought a used 2002 Saab 9-5 Aero in January 2005 from an independent mechanic with whom I have been doing business since 1991. The car was just off lease and had 35,000 miles. At 49,132 miles I took it to a Saab dealer for the "looseness" in the front end or steering column. They found nothing (of course) The warranty expired at 50,000 Miles. At 53,000+ miles, I took it ... Read More
The cheapening of the 9-5
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Yes, thats a Malibu or Impala dash controls in your Saab
1986 900 SPG 1992 9000 Griffen 1999 Saab 9-5 V6 (no need, 4 is just as good) 2002 Saab 9-5 Aero Wagon Thought I was sort of loyal to Saab, but the hell with them. Wanted to book a trip for Euro delivery, website says check back for 2009 models. Email, get a nasty response that GM's board says that this issue will not be answered again in an email (mind ... Read More
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2.3 4 vs. 3.0 V-6
I am on my 3rd 9.5. First two (2000 and 2002) we're V-6 powered, my 2007 is, of course a 2.3 260 HP turbo, Aero in this case. I used to be annoyed when folks picked on the V-6, I loved the power and smoothness of that engine, although that asymetrical turbo seemed to cause a weird "elastic" throttle response. Anyway, between the two V-6's, I put on combined 50,000 + ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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Re: ABS Control Module - New, Used, or Refurbished [jscottk]
I can't speak for Saab's but I had a similar problem on my GMC Sierra. The ABS control module went out and the dealer wanted $700.00 for a new one and $700 to put it in. I decided to try and fix it myself. 1. The car ran fine without it. 2. I didn't have to deal with any brake lines. It was an electric only module so it was easy ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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SAAB 9-5 Wagon, 2001 or 2003?
I got the info from MSN,they said the reliability for 9-5 wagon made in 2003 is better than 2002 and 2001.But, I still got the info from JD Power, they said the reliability for 9-5 wagon made in 2001 is better than 2002 and 2003. It really confused me. Anyone can help me? I'm gonna buy it soon. Thanks.
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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Re: 2003 9-5 - considering purchasing at end of lease [markian]
I bought my 01 9-5 at the end of its 3 yr lease. I did not get any additional warranty (still had 1 yr left on original warranty). Sold it about a year and half later with 92,000 km (off warranty at that time) - no problems with the car post warranty and no serious problem while under warranty. When I bought mine, the dealers used prices were typically a few ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Real World MPG Numbers
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Re: Get a manual next time. [saabzerphunn [buddhabman]
Actually, it's got nothing to do with a manual transmission. I have a automatic 2002 Saab Linear - I get ~34 mpg on the highway (I280 in California) for my daily commute at about 70mph. Bought the car new, a little over 60K miles on it. I get about 24 mpg for city traffic.
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Saab 9-5: MPG-Real World Numbers
I have a 2002 9-5 Linear with Automatic Transmission with about 57,000 miles. Just took it on a trip last week from Minneapolis to Kansas City, MO. Over 500 miles on one tank of gas. I averaged 30.5 MPG according to the trip computer going an average of 79 MPH on the freeway. I did some manual calculations and came up with about 29.5 or so. Repeated the performance on the ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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2002 9-5 Aero Sedan-A couple of questions?
I was looking at 02 Aero today and couldn't really tell if it had the Xenon headlights. They didn't look as blue as I remember. Do all 02 Aeros come with the Bi-Xenon headlights? If not, can I change out the bulbs to be Xenon instead of regular halogen? I saw that the option was only $219, so I assume it would be just the bulbs. By the way, the one ... Read More
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Re: Stalling issue [clasley]
Hi. Did you ever get a response to your questions? I have a 2002 9-5, approx. 65k miles, and am having the exact same problems. I usually just let my car "warm up" for 2 minutes before I drive, but I'd rather get it actually fixed. Did your friend get her Saab fixed and, if so, how? Thanks!
Saab European Delivery
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Saab ED information
Due to some of the misinformation over the last several months I have copied several posts from last summer from the European Delivery Board. We purchased a 2002 BMW 530i, Sport Package, 5 speed through BMW's European Delivery Program. Delivered on July 4, 2002. This July 6th we will take delivery of a 2005 Saab 9-3 Arc Convertible; July 4th did not work with our travel schedule. BMWs are discounted 7% ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Lease Questions
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Re: 2002 Saab 9-5 SportCombi Lease-end options [hersheytx1]
I am interested in negotiating a lease for a 2006 9-5 Sport Combi. Do you mind sharing the name of the leasing company that you are so pleased with? Thanks much.
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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Another viewpoint on the v-6 arc wagons
I had a 2002 Arc with the v-6. Engine and performance wise, I loved this car. And having driven a 4-cyl Saab a couple of times, I preferred the v-6's ride myself. Plus, the fit and finish of my Saab was spot on -- everything was solid as a rock. Best build quality and materials of any car I've ever owned. And yet, I just traded mine in, at only 45k ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Lease Questions
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Re: 2002 Saab 9-5 SportCombi Lease-end options [hersheytx1]
You're right, Hersheytx1, consumers should absolutely negotiate the selling prices of the vehicle that they want to lease. However, Saab is a little different than Jeep in that the cash incentives that it provides on vehicles are not compatible with its special lease program. Consumers who pay cash for or finance their '06 9-5 through an independent bank can take advantage of the $2,500 dealer cash that is currently available on ... Read More
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Re: 2002 Saab 9-5 SportCombi Lease-end options [hersheytx1]
Huh????Did you read the question the man posed or my answer??It had nothing to do with negotiating the car's price(cap.cost)at inception.It addressed negotiating the OFF-LEASE price of the car.
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Re: 2002 Saab 9-5 SportCombi Lease-end options [hersheytx1]
For sure! You need to know the sale price and it needs to be as low as possible. The interest payment on the lease is based on this. The residual amount is usually a percentage of the sale price so if you lower the sale price, you lower the residual. Your payment is simply depreciation amount + interest + taxes (if any). I would not lease without these three firm numbers. ... Read More
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Re: 2002 Saab 9-5 SportCombi Lease-end options [saablcp]
You must a very bad Leasing company if they do not neg. the sale price before you lease a car. I always make sure I get any rebates and/or discounts when leasing. My last Jeep had 4k off the top plus they threw in the Nav. for free. I usually do not go through the dealer unless they have a subvented lease. The Leasing company I deal with always works with ... Read More
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Re: 2002 Saab 9-5 SportCombi Lease-end options [mlerner3]
A major part of your monthly lease payment is the prorated depreciation of the car.Higher residual value = lower payment and vice-versa.By attempting to negotiate a lower buy figure you are essentially double-dipping,in other words you want the advantage of a lower end of lease purchase price without having paid the higher monthly lease payment the lower residual value would have yielded.The leasing company has every right to hold a firm ... Read More
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Re: 2002 Saab 9-5 SportCombi Lease-end options [mlerner3]
Hi mlerner3. There certainly is no guarantee that Saab Financial Services Corp. will negotiate your car's lease-end purchase price. It seems as though you were not able to make any progress in your negotiations with your initial contact there. Some consumers who have struck out on their initial negotiation attempt have had success by working their way up the corporate ladder to a manager. Give it a shot, you don't have ... Read More
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2002 Saab 9-5 SportCombi Lease-end options
My 4-year lease ends on 8/31 and Saab Financial Services customer service reps claim that the purchase option (residual value which was calculated 4 years ago) is non-negotiable. They would rather have the customer lease/buy a new vehicle (obviously) and will waive my last payments IF I lease/buy a new GM vehicle. Since this is not what I wish to do, do you know of any possible way to negotiate the ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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Re: SAAB 9-5 Winter Tires [stmss]
Any Saturn L Series and Cadillac Catera wheels will fit the Saab 9-5 because all three cars are based on the same chassis. The three cars are nothing alike however. If you have an Aero or 2002 or newer 9-5 a minimum of 16" wheels are needed to clear the calipers, otherwise 15" wheels will fit. Used alloy wheels are not expensive or hard to find on places like ebay. Just ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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Just bought a CPO 9.5 Arc
10 days ago I purchased a Midnight Blue 2002 CPO ARC for $17,900 with Metallic paint, Touring Package (Xenon, Park Assist and Rain Sensitive Wipers), 3 new Michelins (4th one has very little wear on it) That year they improved safety, suspension, steering, brakes and other components. It has 42,000 on clock and 28 months left on warrenty. Pulled to L a little, they did an alighment, no charge. With nice ... Read More
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Saab/GM and customer service
Saab still makes great cars. I have had six of them, have four 9-5's right now: 2-1999; 1-2001; 1-2002. They are great cars, I love them. There is only one problem: GM. They are up to their old tricks when it comes to warranty and any customer service. Once a customer buys a Saab or any GM car, they become a legal liability in GM's eyes, and are treated as such. ... Read More
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I like my 9.5
Wow, did not realize so many bad vibes on the 9.5. I have a certified 2001 V-6 (been off warrenty for 1 year now) and it has been a great experience, esp. compared to my prior Audi's. At 74K two repairs off warrenty were a front R wheel bearing and new battery. It is a great winter car (Maine) and the dealership is great with nice Saab loaners. I get 29 ... Read More
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Re: Wrong again... [saablcp]
Well, it has to be better than the "stereo" in my 9-3 Linear, which is absolutely atrocious. Between what is an intentionally bad system - somebody approved it for production that way - and the other quality fiascos, I'm done with SAAB. When the lease is up in a couple of months, ADIOS! This after a 2000 9-5 and a 2002 9-5 (my wife's). Both were great cars. The 2006 9-5 ... Read More
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My Toyota Sucked vs my two 9-5's
I had a 99 9-5 six banger, only one visit to the shop for the three year lease for repair. 2002 Aero Wagon, in the shop three times, about once a year, little stuff. 2004 Toyota Avalon XLS, fully loaded, sticker over 35K, constant problems, electrical, fit and finish, plastic cracking, wires cut to short under seats, (nearly more repairs than my 92 9000 Griffen Edition which has delayed my retirement ... Read More
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Re: March 2006 recall for 2000-2002 9-3 and 9-5 saabs [shannon35]
I had similar problems with my 2001 Saab 9-5, which we bought 1 yr old, 6yr/100K certified. Since then ~every 2-3 months something's broken down: -sunroof strut -radio display x 2 -front wheel bearing -ignition cassette : coincidentally also left me stranded in Boston, this time on busy I-93 in rush hour -paint peeled on front hood, fought w/ Saab for them to repaint whole hood -turbocharger replaced -trunk release -ignition ... Read More
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Re: March 2006 recall for 2000-2002 9-3 and 9-5 saabs [ijg]
I had both computers go out on my car with in a month. I had a fire both times that destroyed my catalytic converter also. The second time it also melted some of the wire harness on the bottom of my car. It cost me $3,000 to fix the car. I have 2001 95 with a 6 cylinder engine. Like you I am still scared the car will catch on fire ... Read More
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Re: March 2006 recall for 2000-2002 9-3 and 9-5 saabs [ijg]
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Re: March 2006 recall for 2000-2002 9-3 and 9-5 saabs [ijg]
I have a 2001 9-3 and last December my car died downtown Boston at a red light. Mechanic replaced the igntition cassette. I'm getting out of this car. SInce I've bought it, the alarm mysteriously kept going on and off all day long, the ignition cassette had to be repalced, the alternator went about 6 months after the ignition cassette and a month after that the AC compressor blew. This is ... Read More
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Re: March 2006 recall for 2000-2002 9-3 and 9-5 saabs [ijg]
Many Saab owners have been waiting for recall of the DIC module. It is a known problem. This unit sits atop the spark plugs. Some owners even carry a spare in the truck as it is a quick DIY changeout if required. Me?, I just play the DIC lottery. I think Saab's story is that they have been looking for a solution to this for awhile and are now waiting until ... Read More
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Saab 9-5 Arc Coolant
Hello! Does anyone know the proper antifreeze to use in a Saab 9-5 Arc from 2002? My manual just says a "saab approved antifreeze" which doesn't help me very much! Thank you in advance for any help!
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March 2006 recall for 2000-2002 9-3 and 9-5 saabs
Anybody know anything about this anticipated recall? I received a letter from Saab telling me that my vehicle (mine is a 6-cylinder but it also applies to 4 cylinders) might be equipped with a defective ignition discharge module (IDM). The letter basically says that Saab doesn't have replacement parts yet and are hoping to have enough to send out recall letters in March of 2006. Basically, a defective IDM can either ... Read More
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Re: why I like 2002-2003 Arc's [pearson244]
All saabs have the WB and good crash rating for years. I had a six also on a 99 SE 9-5. Good GM motor, but I wouldn't buy one used unless it was certified for a few years by Saab or you know your way around under the hood. Very expensive to work on after the warranty is out, tight fit in the engine well, won't get the high miles of ... Read More
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Re: why I like 2002-2003 Arc's
Most will recommend Aero but I like the softer ride and more comfy (for me) headrests, and lower price of the Arc/SE V-6. I like the 2002-2003 Arc's as they had many features (heated rear seats, ventilated front seats, weather channel, improved crash ratings, 5 speed automatic, great stereo, etc.) that were not available on the 1999-2001 or were "decontented" in the 2004 version when they went to the 4. I ... Read More
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2002 Saab 9.5 Areo Service
Service on my car was included up to the 30,000/36mo service. But looking at the service book, most items are listed as check this and check that. The car is 3 years old and I have had the 36mo service. The car only has 20,000 miles on it. At this point I have had the oil changed every 10,000 miles (will do 5k from now on) and had the engine air ... Read More
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DI Cassette failure
I saw a blurb or two about this under news for GM today (which has since been buried under news of earnings warnings and the like). The NHTSA's Office of Defects Investigation is starting a preliminary investigation into DI cassette failure. Below is word from the ODI website (sorry for the caps): ODI HAS RECEIVED 35 REPORTS OF ALLEGED ENGINE STALLING DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE IGNITION DISCHARGE MODULE (IDM) ... Read More
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Re: saab problems [aerodriver]
I agree with aerodriver. I had more problems with my Toyota 4Runner than I ever had with either of my Saab 9000s. And far less severe problems than our 2002 Honda Odyssey or our Mazda Millenia S. I sold my '86 Saab turbo with nearly 350,000 km - all original drivetrain, turbo, transmission etc. except the clutch. My '95 Aero has had a couple minor problems and one electronic module failure ... Read More
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9-5 - 2.3 Crankcase Vent Bulletin Denouncement....
Now Saab Says not to Upgrade Crank Vent! Bulletin.htm12/2004) NEW 9-5 Crankcase Vent / Oil Leak si210-2417.pdf 10/2003) 9-5 Crankcase Ventilation / Oil Leak fix .pdf 2002) I had this service preformed by SAAB Dealer in Feb 2005 - $409.00 DO-NOT-DO bulletin issued by SAAB in 12/2004 Do you think Dealer should refund my money since they SHOULD have had knowledge this was to be immediately stopped by order of SAAB ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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congrats on new Saab
Congrats Wilb! You'll love the Saab. We're nearing the end with our 3rd Saab, 2002 Steel Grey Wagon. This one is a lease and I DON'T want to turn it in. If Saab financial would give me a decent buy out, I'd buy it but that's not looking good at this point. So May 11th could be a sad day here. We've had Two 9-5's and althougth they are getting a ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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Re: Saab vs. Lexus [what_say_you2]
Hands down if you like the looks of a Lexus, go with that. Saab won't come close in terms of reliability or cost/hassles of repair. Our 2002 9-5 needed new rotors after 25,000 miles. And the last year we've had it in the shop 16 times. Mostly warranty-covered items breaking, but still a big hassle being at the dealer every 3-4 weeks. And if you encounter any major problems, Saab corporate ... Read More
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Re: SAAB 2001 - New Buyer [bcool]
I think 2001s would be more in the $12k range now. My 2002 with 35k miles on it was only worth $12-15k retail a few months ago - dealer said wholesale was around $9k.
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Re: saab problems [ffb13]
I feel for the people with problem vehicles. I had a Chevy Blazer than was a nightmare. But I leased a 2000, 9.3 that didn't have any problems - i miss that car. I now have a 2002 9.5 Areo that has had only very minor problems. A headlight fell out while driving and scratched up the paint - the power cables kept it from falling off, so it ... Read More
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Re: saab problems [ffb13]
I feel compelled to reply to the recent string above. I have driven both a 9000 CS and now a 9-5 Aero (2002 model) for the last 8 years. My problems have been minimal (none with the Aero). Having said that, I had my share of woe with my old 1988 900, but most of those issues were taken care of during the warranty. The point, to the many online ... Read More
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Got a lemon 2002 9-5 Linear
anyone have trouble with the transmission on their 9-5? Never had a single problem with my 9-3, but the 9-5 has been a piece of junk. And saab won't do a thing about it. Car has trouble getting into 2nd and 3rd gear, hesitates and dogs out, engine light keeps coming on... tried trading it in and found out two years later the car is only worth $12,000.
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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Looking for Aero Wagon Experiences
I am a Saab owner, fourth time, with a 2000 Aero 5-speed that is an absolute kick to drive. From the reading I've done, I understand models produced after, I think, 2002 have a higher degree of structural safety built in and perhaps even a few more passive safety elements. I would LOVE to own a newer 9-5 Aero wagon with every possible option except automatic tranny. Can anyone provide edification ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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2002 Saab
Go for the 4 - it's the traditional Saab engine and seems to be the most bulletproof. Get the 2002 - upgraded suspension over the 2001 and prior models. Look for premium sound - much better sound IMHO. Saab has also been decontenting the 9-5 in little ways. No stainless steel exhaust in 2002, for example. Good luck! Donn
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2000-2002 Saab 4 or V6
I'm looking for a used 9-5; 2000-2002. Is there any reason to look for the 4 vs 6? I read somewhere that the 4 was more desirable, if so for what reason?
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MPG/update/question
I get 23 mpg in city driving (average mph 28 per computer over 8000 miles) with my 2002 Linear. I only got 19 when I first got it -- so excited, I guess! I still love my car and have had no problems over the last 14,000 miles. (I bought used at 14,000 miles) I get a groan at low speed tight turns, too - which I just assume isn't a ... Read More
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for Justin
Ahhh - so you know firsthand about VW coil packs!!! ;>( Yes, if a DI fails the car will not run. When you take delivery of your car, put in a new set of plugs with the proper gap and you should be fine, given the general good reliability of the DI system. In 2001, the Linear 4 cyl has a Garrett turbo, the Aero has a Mitsubishi turbo. Each uses ... Read More
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re: Saab repair costs versus others
The first year (1999) 9-5 had lots of electrical problems and recalls relating to the ECU and throttle body. However, these were addressed in subsequent years and right now most of the consumer organizations (CR, Kiplinger) rate the 9-5 among the highest of all the European brands for reliability and good repair records. We've put 36,000 miles on our 2002 model without any problems. The car is truly a delight to ... Read More
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Re: Ok, which 9-5 to buy? [tami]
Hi Tami- A used Saab is an excellent value because of their rapid depreciation. I recommend a 2002 or later (I own a 2003 Linear) because of the redesign that year - not many new features but many refinements. There may be fewer Arc's and Aero's on the used car market just because of the lower volumes of those vehicles sold. The 4-cyl Linear has plenty of power on the freeway ... Read More
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Re: What about it then? [cwmozart #1704]
My 2002 9-5, with admittedly low mileage, has been reliable to a fault. I haven't done any maintenance beyond the warranty-required services (shame on me). Nor have any components failed or caused me any worry. My previous 1996 9000CS had only a handful of minor warranty repairs performed over its 90,000-mile lifespan with me. I think there are plenty of Saab owners out there with similarly positive experiences; unfortunately, they're never ... Read More
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Re: Saab 9-5 Arc Control Panel Overheating [domer67 #1715]
The fascia/dash of my 2002 9-5 Aero with 14k miles also gets hot to the touch right around the audio (cassette and CD) unit. I haven't noticed any radiant heat, nor does it seem to affect the function of any components in or around the control panel. The audio works fine, so I've never asked the service tech about it.
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Re: New 9-5 Aero electronics [smk #1703]
Glad they made it straight for you. Knock on wood our newer 2003 Aero Wagon has been perfect thus far. We'll see in 60K or so though. Consumer Digest and some others have noted that the quality improved dramatically from 2002 onwards. If you don't go with Saab there is Subaru if you need a wagon. The redesigned 2005 is supposed to be killer. The Mazda 6 wagon is supposed to ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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to zaphodatl and others re: v6/reliability
As my post above, I bought a Saab because of its rep for reliability. Have a 2002 Arc wagon with the v6. While i've never been in love with the car due to the lack of storage space and the rougher ride (compared do my 2000 sable wagon), it has proven quite reliable. Had a coolant leak early on, they had to tear the engine apart for 3 days to get ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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Need Help: 2001 9-5 SE vs. 2002 ARC
Selling my bmw 3 series and getting into saab wagon. What are main differences between 2001 9-5 SE and 2002 Arc with same engine? I know of 4 speed versus 5 speed, exterior revisions and different wood interior and stiffer suspension. Is the new suspension much stiffer? anything else of importance. Thanks!
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Saab Reliability & Sabb Aero vs Others
Saab Reliability - We have been fortunate since we purchased a 2003 Aero Wagon. I have read that prior to 2002 the (-5 could be hit or miss. We have had ours for 1 year in December and have not had one single problem. Saab Aero vs Others - This is tough, as I am a big Saab fan. But there are some nice sedans out there. I like our Saab ... Read More
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5280saab
I just did the same thing with my 2002 325xi. I put directional tires on my car (Michelin Pilot Sport A/S) and my car pulls right too. I was told by several vendors and mechanics that directional tires can do that. So I'm planning on doing a rotation front to rear on my right side to see if that fixes the problem. If not, I'll be trying the same thing on ... Read More
Saab European Delivery
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Answer...
By previous generation, I mean the 1999-2002 9-3's. As for Euro pickup, yes 100% finance is expected on the day you pick up the car UNLESS you finance thru SAAB Financial Services. If you chose SFSC, there is a "delayed" payment of sorts that SAAB has figured out. For greater detail you would have to contact them. Pickup in Sweden or purchase in the USA, either way you are getting a ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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I've driven most of those cars
All except the new RX8. Most recently I attended a Saab USA event that allowed invitees to drive the new 9-3 and existing 9-5 Aero against the BMW 3 series, among other competitors. You may want to get a copy of Road & Track, July 2002 issue. They compared 11 sport sedans incl the 9-5 Aero, G35, 330i, and IS300. Sounds like you want a performance car with more of an ... Read More
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RE: Tire wear
Two things to find out: Does he have an Aero Version and how often is he rotating? The Performance tires used on the Aero are low profiles that do not last nearly as long as traditional tires do. 15K might be normal if he's not keeping pressures and rotations up. With either 9-5 version, he should be rotating every 5,000 miles. Ignore what Saab says about 10K or not at all ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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Aero Engine Tweaked?
blockisland - you seem a little tweaked today. Are you kidding ? The whole 9-5 family are better engineered than the competing Volvo V70 lineup. The new 2002+ 9-5 is safer, has more features, equal in room, better gas mileage, faster, better handling, there is no comparison in looks. It is by far a better driving car and great value. SAAB is lacking in the AWD, area, but a Subaru AWD ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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cahles
I am a new reader and have noticed numerous posts regarding tires on the 9-5 particularly the Aero. It's kinda crazy that Saab would equip the Aero (mine's a 2002) with the Primacy(s) here in Wisconsin. Mine are up in the attic. I did some pretty thorough research on tires that fit the Aero, not really wanting to come up with the cash to buy the rim combos, though they weren't ... Read More
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blockislandguy - I suspect a lot of the poor resale value reputation does come from people comparing MSRP to used prices rather than actual selling prices. I have seen many people use lease residual values as evidence of weak resale also. Again, residuals are based on MSRP rather thatn actual sales price. When I was shopping for an SUV for the wife, everyone talked about how bad resale was on Ford ... Read More
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SAAB RELIABILITY
I own a 1996 9000CS with 130,000 miles and a new 9-5 Aero with less than 1,000 miles. I have had the 9000 for about three years. If it was problematic, I would not have stayed with SAAB's I love the way the 9000 drives, handles, its storage capacity, and the excellent gas mileage. My Aero is three times better than the 9000. I just took a road trip and got ... Read More
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Contemplating purchasing a 9-5
I am new to this forum and am researching used 9-5s (2000-2002). I have traditionally purchased acuras and love the turnkey/almost zero maintenance lifetime experience, however, I would like to try the european experience because the cars feel so great on the road and the look of the cars. I began to research European sedans and was immediately drawn to the 9-5. The A-4 also seemed interesting but I simply preferred ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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New to me 2002 Linear Wagon
I bought a 2002 Linear Wagon with 12,000 miles about a month ago, after shopping for a Passat wagon for months. I have no regrets - I love everything about my Saab except for the mileage; I'm only getting 19 mpg city driving, and I'm a pretty gentle driver. Favorites: The leather is beautiful - I haven't let my dogs in the car yet. Automatic climate control is great. Heated seats ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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Price for New 2002 9-5 Arc Sedan
I was browsing at the local Saab dealer on Sunday (they were closed) and I noticed several new 2002 9-5 Arc sedans on the lot. I am looking for a cash deal. Does anyone have an opinion as to what would be a reasonable offer to make for a new 2002, net of all incentives and promotions and considering the fact that the car is a year old? How much of ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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Problems and what I paid
OK just to help people out with another price for reference, I paid $31000 for a loaded 2001 SE wagon. This was in August 2002 and it had 5k miles on it but sold as new because it had never been titled. I think it was a company car. I thought it was a great deal at the time but after reading other posts it seems more like a fair deal ... Read More
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manamal
hmmm... ok .... ty for the input.... that is very interesting... so really it does not matter wether you are driving a 6 vs the 4 then... except when accelerating from 0 - 60... it seems to me then get the 4 turbo for even better gas milage.... :] I am still in the market for a buying a wagon... but now its getting kind of critical....Anyone regarding lease buy option ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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Red Aero in Mass.
Jerry: I actually live in Eastern Mass., not far from Boston on the North Shore. Although I got fair prices in person from 128 Saab in Wakefield and a reasonable phone quote from Village Saab in Acton, I ended up buying from Saab Nashua North. They have an extensive inventory and move a fair number of vehicles. Check out their web site for info (www.saabnashuanorth.com); they still have a few 02s ... Read More
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Re: decision time
As far as snow tires on a 9-5, you will need them only if you go with the Aero, which comes with high-performance 'dry pavement' tires. The Linear and Arc come with all-season tires which will handle the snow better. Regarding long-term reliability, probably NO other car will beat the Lexus. On the other hand, Saab has become one of the most reliable of all the European cars. Most of the ... Read More
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No Black Magic Involved
Bretfraz - While I'd like to be as helpful to the board here as I can, the "other factors" I mentioned were probably situation- and dealer-specific. It was month-end/year-end, so that motivated both of us. After an initial phone call (and a $30K offer over the phone!) I came in as the prototypical "I'm ready to buy today" customer, and that usually creates a condition that shakes a few dollars off ... Read More
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Saab Aero or Maxima SE?
Was planning on another Saab, this time buying an Aero (I have a 2000 9-5 SE coming up to lease-end). Local dealer still has a new 2002 Aero 5-spd that he offered for $31,500 (MSRP is $40K and change). This includes $500 owner loyalty and what I think is a hefty discount. Am concerned only about the reputed turbo lag and sloppy shifting, which my brief test drive seemed to confirm. ... Read More
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Firephoenix777
My Aero is a 2002, and the 0-60 is somewhere in the mid 6's. My old 900 SE was in the low 6's. I'm not sure of the 1/4 time. I may take it to a local strip and find out when spring rolls around and I get better tires. As far as synthetic, I use standard weights 10W30 in winter, 10W40 spring/fall and 15W50 in the summer (I think that's ... Read More
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6 cyl & rebates
Hm, my neighbor had already 3 repairs on the 6 cyl in his 2002 9-5 Arc - all coolant leaks. He is happy he leased and didn't buy used. It appears that 9-5 Linear sedan carries about 5K in rebates right now until 1/2 --> carsdirect.com target price is something like USD 30K - pretty close to those $44K Canadian. If I needed a new car, I'd probably go for it ... Read More
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95-subie
Hi, I test drove a Subaru Outback sedan/vdc-H6. It was a 2002. It was fun, and I was impressed. I took it in a big parking lot and did some tight turns. Fair bit of roll to it, but otherwise, very nice and smooth engine. Man the heater fan is noisey, though. My problem is I don't fit. Even with the seats all the way down, my hair and left side ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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Saab 9,5 Pricing
I don't know how pricing for new Saabs is in Canada (my home country) or the US right now, but in Belgium I was just given the full diplomatic discount on the 9,5 Vector Estate I ordered for my wife. As an expat I am eligible for a discount, but not the more than 25% off list I got. That not only took care of the VAT(21% here) but covered the ... Read More
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Re cdndriver
A few comments - the remaining 2002 Linears are getting good discounts here in Calgary. I have seen 5 sedans offered in Saturdays paper for $37k ($23k US) and 1 wagon for $40k ($25k US). All new with I think 2.8% lease. This is a steal IMHO! If I didn't already have one I would now. I don't think you will find a similarily equipped BMW that can touch this. Even ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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new 9-5
Hard to say right now. It really depends on what global platform a new 9-5 will be built on. There's some speculation out there but no commitment, AFAIK. Market forces will dictate some of these decisions (a new 9-5 will need an AWD version and I've even heard a new V8 could be developed for it). I spoke to some SAAB officials at SEMA and they weren't too informative; prolly cuz ... Read More
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Response to several messages
Have a 2001 with 35K, 4 Dr. 9.5 SE. Yes, Saab has certified plan, same as BMW with 6 yr. and 75 (or 100) from in service date. Changed it effective 2002 models to match BMW, Audi and Merc., V-6 engine is very reliable, have not heard of any problems except noisy power steering gear. Re: 1999 vs. 2000 V6, unchanged, some changes in 2002 Model. Have driven both 170 and ... Read More
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Warranty in Chicago
I live in Chicago and use the Saab Exchange in Highland park, which I think just moved to Lake bluff. I can not say enough about there service. They reat you right and are always very nice. Closest to a Lexus dealer & well worth the 30 min ride from Chicago. I shopped at Perillo for the saab new and the salesman did not even want to get up from his ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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do the headrests take getting used to????
Just brought home my new 2002 9-5 Arc wagon. Have any other saab owners had to get used to the funky headrests? My last car offered no real neck support at all, and the saab felt fine on the 2 test drives I took, but now that I have it, I'm getting a little ache in my neck and upper back. I'm telling myself I just need to get used to ... Read More
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Good review!
Check out Edmunds' Road Test Follow Up: 2002 Saab 9-5 Aero Wagon. And let us know what you think. Thanks for your comments! Revka Host Hatchbacks & Wagons Boards
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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SAAB 2001 linear seats
notwithstanding some small electrical problems a slight oil leak which I accept as teething problems ,and a handsfree phone saab harness that no one seems to know what to do with(dealer included) in my area now that it is installed!,I am extremely satisfied with my 2001 9-5 linear wagon after 25000kms. Aside that is from an absolutely awful drivers seat that has become impossible to feel comfortable in in 105kms to ... Read More
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theremin: A6 vs 9-5
A couple of other points for your consideration. Dealer Experience: I have owned a 1998 Audi A4, always coveted the A6, but when I finally had the $$$ to afford one, I was disillusioned by the Audi dealership, particularly the service dept and even the repeat-Audi purchase experience. So I shopped around, and had excellent pre and post-sale expriences with Saab, and in addition to the vehicle comparison, the Dealer experience ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Wagon
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RE: Which Wagon
Which Audi are you comparing? If it's the A4, you'll find it's space as lacking as the BMW. These are all nice choices though. Also, as nice as the C-Class is I think that one will be smaller as well and if Front Wheel Drive is important to you the Mercedes will be out of the running. For the money, it's hard to beat the Saab. The resale predictions may be ... Read More
Saab 9-5 Sedan
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r.e. Erin's 'review'; Aero vs. A6; my 2 cents etc.
Hi - in the cold light of day etc... You bring out some good points, and some fair criticisms. That is what the original review should have done. It seemed like that Erin had a real chip on her shoulder about the Saab - it was strange to see. If I can pick up on a couple of your comments. Steering wheel telescoping - I can see no practical engineering or ... Read More
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Our deal
We are looking at the 2002 Aero, metallic silver, touring package and automatic. The deal we are being offered in $35,600 to buy, that is with a GM Supplier discount(which anyone working for a GM supplier can get, eg. if your company provides hardware or software to them), the current $3000 incentive, and $500 loyalty since we have a Saab 9-3. Or we can lease it for $467 month, 3 yr. ... Read More
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Wrong pictures
In case anybody cares, the pictures Edmunds shows under their 2002 9-5 section are actually MY 2001. I don't know what's going on because they used to show MY '02, but now just the '01 pics as '02. First the wretched 9-5 review (see the July Road&Track for a nice counterpoint), and now the wrong pictures. Does somebody at Edmunds have a beef with Saab? Stan
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2002 9-5 Linear Rocks ! - good number - and funk !
I just picked up my new 9-5 linear - (black/ charcoal interior) automatic – premium package. ( June 27, 2002 ) The Audi A4 fell off my list as it is small - and feels cheap. I would never buy a car in 2002 without Telematics on it - and if you want Onstar in an Audi - better be prepared to drop 5K on options !!! Build your own Audi. ... Read More
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Thank You, siwatkins - and more
I, too have been completely disgusted by the biased, distorted, uninformed and unfair review of the 9-5 Aero. More than a "religious" thing, I simply cannot accept that such a GREAT car, recognized as such by ALL recent reviews receives such an obviously flawed and insulting review from a obviously inexperienced driver. GO BUY THE LAST ROAD AND TRACK. "Real reviewers rated the car 4th out of 12". The "Engineering Editor" ... Read More
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Letter to the Editor on the recent 02 Aero Review (Cont'd 2)
avement tended to upset the chassis a little." Enough dissection. It is clear that the reviewer has limited experience in driving and accurate reporting, let alone in driving the 2002 Saab Aero. It would be interesting to hear what Saab think, so I've copied this to their customer service departments, and to Saabnet, as I'm sure such a clearly biased, and non-impartial review will provoke lots of discussion as to Edmunds ... Read More
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