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  • Decisions, decisions

    Written by: bgandlg on Jan 25, 2007 3:20:12 PM

    Decisions, decisions My local VW dealership has several 2005 Phaetons for sale from $44Kto $47K. All fully loaded and with mileage as low as 5k to 15K. Since I’ve have never owned a VW and the fact that the Phaeton was not a big hit, I was hoping to get some feed back from anyone on the price and quality of this car. Any comments and or suggestions would be greatly ... Read More

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  • LS460L

    Written by: syswei on Oct 22, 2006 3:46:08 AM

    There's an interesting early owner review on CL from a fellow who also owns a 2004 Phaeton and 2005 E55. He says among other things: 1. The Phaeton is bigger... 2. The Phaeton has more "road-hugging weight"... 3. The Phaeton cabin feels significantly wider, with commensurately greater shoulder room... 4. The Phaeton trunk is larger and more usable (our LS460L has the Tiny Trunk option)...[rear a/c and icebox] 5. A few ... Read More

Volkswagen Phaeton Lease Questions

  • Re: Volkswagen Phaeton: Lease Questions [daveb2]

    Written by: Car_man on Dec 4, 2005 6:58:31 AM

    Hi daveb2. This car's lease program varies depending upon how long you want to lease it for and how many miles per year you need to be able to drive it. For now, I will give you an idea of what its lease program is like by listing the numbers for a typical lease, 36 months with 15,000 miles per year. If you were to lease a 2005 Volkswagen Phaeton V8 ... Read More

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  • Re: Lease impact with Phaeton off the market?? [lastwatcher]

    Written by: vwguild on Nov 29, 2005 8:25:16 PM

    Watcher...wait and see about residuals & market values; time will take care of all that... Now, I cannot offer up any excuses for your Dealership experiences, for each store is different...Just as there are good Mercedes Dealers there are bad ones as well... I will, however; take a measured stance when it comes to the Corporate side of things... You should know, if you do not already, that all hands in ... Read More

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  • Re: Volkswagen Phaeton: Lease Questions [Car_man]

    Written by: daveb2 on Nov 26, 2005 3:30:05 PM

    What is the customary residual value percentage and the lease factor for a 2005 Phaeton with the winter package, black Kavalier (sp?), and walnut interior trim? DB

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  • Re: New Uk Owner [ukguy1]

    Written by: ukguy1 on Sep 22, 2005 8:17:08 AM

    Hello all - its now 22 days since I took delivery of my new Silver 3.0 V6 Tdi Phaeton and it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Having owned many BMW's over the years , we currently have a 2005 525d Touring, this car is VW's well kept secret. I have had so many people ask what it is and of course unlike the BMW it ... Read More

  • Update--Phaeton 3600 miles

    Written by: pji44 on Sep 21, 2005 9:36:47 AM

    Still love it--no issues, except gas mileage and brake dust which I expected. Received a notice that dealers are getting 2006 Phaetons in (some already have). So much for the death sentence. Also, VW sent me a phone to use with the $299 phone option on the 2005 models. I haven't been opened it yet but apparently it's a Nokia phone which will be totally integrated. I'll report after I put ... Read More

  • Re: Vw Phaeton Lease [motorista]

    Written by: vwguild on Sep 5, 2005 3:33:09 PM

    "OnStar" Safe & Sound is standard equipment on the 2005 PHAETON, and includes 30 Free minutes of Hands Free phone service...additional minutes are available thru "OnStar" for various rate pkgs. No special phone is required...everything is built in. Your Blackberry should have a hands free, Bluetooth kit available thru your T-Mobile dealer...I know Cingular has one for my Motorola Razr... Best mats available are from a Brit firm called Cannon...Brand name ... Read More

  • Re: Vw Phaeton Lease [vwguild]

    Written by: motorista on Sep 5, 2005 8:29:58 AM

    Thank you for your prompt reply - Precise and informative as usual! Regarding the lease, is it true that better lease terms are about to be introduced for the 2005 models? I think someone else on the forum mentioned September 6 as the date for the new lease terms. Re the analog phone amp in the current model, two questions: 1) is this standard or extra-cost option on the 2005 V8? ... Read More

  • Re: Vw Phaeton Lease [vwguild]

    Written by: motorista on Sep 3, 2005 2:28:02 PM

    Hello vwguild, I have been following the phaeton forum for a while, and appreciating your wisdom especially. Here's my situation: I have been researching the Phaeton and test-drove it against the A-8: I happen to like the Phaeton better *if*, and only if, I can get the price low enough to compensate for the much faster depreciation. I have never leased before, and typically prefer to finance over a long time ... Read More

  • Re: Vw Phaeton Lease [msdavis]

    Written by: vwguild on Sep 3, 2005 10:48:35 AM

    That was then, November 2004; this is now, September 2005. In 2004 VWAG sent over more PHAETONs than VWOA wanted; so by Q4 2004 we had PHAETONs in the various Ports around the country and needed to find homes for them because 2005s were enroute...Volkswagen of America offered the Dealers here some fantastic incentives to take these cars...As a matter of fact, I would have taken more if I knew the ... Read More

  • Phone Question

    Written by: pji44 on Jul 19, 2005 2:54:29 PM

    VW Guild..thanks. I really love the car based on my first 4 days of ownership. I called the Phaeton Customer Care line (877)742-3866 and asked about the phone set up. They were very helpful and said the car with this option was built for 3 NOKIA phones, models 6360, 6340i and 6310i. All are discontinued. The customer rep told me they are actively and currently looking for a replacement option for ... Read More

  • Phaeton lease deal? Did I do a good job or what? Let me know

    Written by: italia233 on Jul 5, 2005 11:21:33 PM

    Hi guys and gals. I'm new to the forum. I have been actively browsing the forum for about a month or so and have found it quite informative during my research for a new car lease that I will be getting into sometime this month. I went down to my local vw dealer to play some hardball and see what kind of deal I could get on a new phaeton since ... Read More

  • New car Dilemma (VW Guild)

    Written by: peteri44 on Jun 22, 2005 12:39:50 PM

    Had a 2002 A8L that I loved (leased). I moved and had to to take the train to work so the A8L was seldom used. I switched to an 04 A62.7 S-lIne, a nice car (not an A8) that I drive infrequently as I pedal my 99 Ranger Pick-Up to the train station. Now I'm taking a new job with the need for a bigger car again with a 60 mile ... Read More

  • Re: Does Phaeton have any emergency exit handle inside the trunk? [avatarflauer]

    Written by: paldi on Apr 17, 2005 10:38:18 AM

    Features List EPA FUEL ECONOMY RATING City 12/hwy 19 (6.OL engine/5-speed auto trans) EXTERIOR Body-color bumpers w/black lower section Body-color door handles w/chrome inlay Body-color Power flush-folding heated side mirrors w/memory, auto dimming, integrated side blinkers/flood lights, passenger-side auto tilt-down in reverse Bumper-integrated halogen front fog lamps Chrome grille w/logo Daytime running lights Door sills in chrome Dual pane tinted green glass Heated front windshield washer nozzles High-intensity Xenon headlamps w/auto ... Read More

  • Re: trunk soft close feature [dcowan699]

    Written by: corral on Feb 4, 2005 11:25:42 PM

    I have finally got to the bottom of the soft close trunk feature. My car does not have the equipment on it. The vehicle's msrp for my2004 phaeton without technology package include a standard feature of soft close. To my knowlage none of the cars have this feature. The 2005 model does not include it on the Msrp. The 2004 sales brochure includes this as a standard feature. I reccomend all ... Read More

  • future of phaeton

    Written by: ffb13 on Jan 29, 2005 8:02:24 AM

    if you go back to my post of last year i stated that the future of phaeton is to be dropped or repositioned as a separate brand, and that the factory in dresden should be utilized for other .   well, i have just read that the dresden factory is now being identified to manufacture the new bentley 4 door based on the bentley 2 door continenatl. both of these cars ... Read More

  • Re: Waver... [markcincinnati]

    Written by: corral on Jan 6, 2005 8:53:50 PM

    I just want to let you know I again talked with a master phateon tech today and he is also unhappy with these transmission problems. He claims every one he has worked or driven has this same problem and vw considers it normal even though they are working on a software upgrade to solve it. He told me to drive in sport to cure the problem. I also went to the ... Read More

  • Re: Waver... [vwguild2]

    Written by: dcowan699 on Jan 5, 2005 4:02:05 PM

    Peter, So far does it seems that the Phaeton will sell at about the same pace in 2005 as it did in 2004? I wish I had waited and bought a WHITE 2005 with cell phone. It just makes me angry VW didn't make accomodations (even retrofit) for a phone on the 2004s. Based on what I know, it would be cheaper to trade in and get a 2005 than to ... Read More

  • Re: Phaeton buy? [murphdog]

    Written by: paldi on Dec 22, 2004 3:40:38 PM

    The 2004s are difficult to find because there arn't very many 2005s here yet either. Supply is drying up as the smaller VW dealers hesitate to stock them. Sure, they'll Order one for a customer, but what about trying to Sell one if there's nothing in the showroom to demo? Maybe they expect you to test drive a Toureg and buy a Phaeton if you were impressed?

  • Re: What is a demo car? [rcellio]

    Written by: dcowan699 on Nov 20, 2004 7:26:15 PM

    The 2004 Phaeton's Msrp can immediately be reduced by $10000.00 because VW is giving the dealers that kickback right off the top. In addition to that, you probably can get an additional rebate of $8000.00 that the dealer was probably going to discount anyway because of the fact they want it off of there showroom floor. Because it has 834 miles on it, I would push then for a total of ... Read More

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  • Re: S430 4Matic [loslobos71]

    Written by: ljflx on Nov 30, 2004 6:02:03 AM

    Good news, bad news. First the good - I just got something from MB in the mail with a cover page that said there were special deals and incentives on the S-class (which I hear are not selling well right now) as well as the E and C class cars. I have seen S430 deals (generally $77K stickers) at $799 per month on a $12K lease deal with $2K down advertised ... Read More

  • Re: Volkswagen Phaeton [dcowan699]

    Written by: habitat1 on Nov 20, 2004 7:02:46 AM

    According to Edmunds, a loaded 2004 W12 had a list price of around $103,000 and an invoice of around $94,000. Are you saying that - at $83,000 - you bought a brand new 2004 Phaeton for around $11,000 UNDER invoice? On the one hand, this sounds like a great deal. However, if VW has to give them away, the resale value is likely to drop like a rock as well. It ... Read More

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  • service

    Written by: carnet1 on Sep 20, 2004 11:23:30 AM

    I have given my car in to service three times since i got it in feb 04 twice i got a toureg and once a spanking new audi A4 and i was kinda thinking where is my phaeton loaner like i was promised but then again i was like let me give them a chance to set them selves up and establish the whole phaeton thing ,,,,,, i am very disappointed ... Read More

  • Profile of a new Phaeton driver

    Written by: rob_at_work on Sep 7, 2004 8:53:20 AM

    First Post. (I actually posted message 1009, but it was pulled when I asked to change my forum name.) Just received a Phaeton that was ordered in April. I requested the 4-seat option which is produced in lower quantities, so I had to wait. As it turns out, that pushed my car into the 2005 group, so the wait was probably a good thing. I like the new wheel design. To ... Read More

  • The Touareg & The PHAETON...

    Written by: vwguild2 on Jul 11, 2004 11:10:18 AM

    are both in place for one primary purpose...to make VW a complete car company...nothing knee jerk about it. Prior to their introductions a loyal VW fan/customer was forced to leave the brand if she/he wanted an SUV or an automobile of the PHAETON's caliber. And the PHAETON was never intended to compete with the A8. Historically, and this is well documented, fewer than 4% crossshop the two brands...surprising, yet true. Additionally, ... Read More

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  • no title

    Written by: merc1 on Jun 29, 2004 2:51:49 AM

    I can't imagine that anyone thinks they are getting a S-Class or 7-Series level car when buying an RL. Some buyers are clueless about cars, but I don't think any are that clueless. BTW, we don't get SWB S-Classes here and the RL and 745i, give me a break. "RL is 400lbs heavier than TL, how is that not "more substantial"? Remember, there was a time when MB's were sold on ... Read More

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  • Re: phaeton selling poor so farr [ffb13 #875]

    Written by: markcincinnati on May 17, 2004 10:18:45 AM

    There are two Phaetons at my local VW dealer -- and they have been there soooooooo long, I think the paint is starting to fade (just kidding). I am not in the Phaeton market, even for $50K -- but, @ $50K, I might "pause a moment" to consider it -- I cannot imagine that these two cars can sit for months (of course the dealer does NOTHING except keep them completely ... Read More

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  • oac

    Written by: merc1 on Apr 22, 2004 12:58:03 AM

    We're only 3 full months into the New Year, and no all companies are not in the same situation. Some have newer models, so have older models. Some are going through model change over in the spring as opposed to the fall. Some have new products in the hottest segments of the market. Staggered model introductions etc. etc. There a jillion reasons why sales could be off for any particular brand ... Read More

  • oops

    Written by: designo on Mar 14, 2004 8:56:52 PM

    sorry. I pressed post by mistake. 2005 Audi A8L 4.2: great looking car, but doesn't seem that have the "characteristics" of a flagship sedan (styling...) I don't know. 2005 BMW 745Li: I must be the only guy out there who really appreciates Bangle's styling. Was horrified at first, I must confess, about reliability issues and BMW's iDrive. I am considering one after the "refresh". 2005/2006 Mercedes-Benz S-Class: I am looking most ... Read More

  • no title

    Written by: merc1 on Feb 11, 2004 1:39:21 AM

    Well like the S-Class last year, the LS has just received a face-lift so it will be hot this year. The 7-Series is up next, for 2005. Meanwhile 2004 will be a tough year for the 7-Series. I'm personally waiting to see what the A8 can do in a full year. Actually 2005 might be the A8's "year" because they'll be a cheaper swb model, and the W12 model both coming ... Read More

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  • Thanks VWGuild

    Written by: dcowan699 on Feb 7, 2004 4:42:53 AM

    I read your reply this morning and thanks for your input. I have driven the W12 and I was very impressed. Sorry I didn't mention that. When I say I sneaked in to see the Phaeton from time to time, I really meant to imply that I didn't want to bother the dedicated Phaeton salesman and take away his time when I know I'm just not ready to commit. I just ... Read More

  • Phaeton Experience...

    Written by: vwguild on Jan 23, 2004 9:35:51 AM

    I don't think that I can add more to the leather discussion, except to respond to Doc...There will be a "Vienna" Leather option for 2005, and that all is "Sensitive" leather for 2004... Regarding the "White Glove" item...We received our first two Phaetons...1/W12 & 1/V8 around Thanksgiving...The "teaser" ad on "24" on Fox started at about the same time...I received 3 more V8s the second week of December and took one ... Read More

  • future of the phaeton--------------

    Written by: ffb13 on Jan 19, 2004 4:43:11 PM

    below is my prediction of current thinking at vw group at both management and board levels scenario------------- vw group ...board meeting 17 th december 2003. resolved------------ discontinuation of phaeton in v8 form. rebadging of phaeton v12 .as audi A-S12 T RATIONAL --DUE TO DISSMAL SALES OF CURRENT PHAETON model versus plan and dissmal sales projection through 2004 -06 ,specially in both domestic and export markets ,it has been decided by management ... Read More

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  • footie

    Written by: merc1 on Jan 11, 2004 9:50:50 PM

    Read the post again, I clearly said "as I'm told" so if you want to issue with the statement please head over to the ES300 vs TL board in which one poster said this is true in HIS area of the country.....in response to when someone else on the board brought up how exclusive the SL supposedly was. Ever heard of a figure of speech? I guess because this isn't written ... Read More

  • merc1 - Your # 3876 Post

    Written by: jamesfletcher2 on Jan 7, 2004 7:43:18 PM

    merc1, Interesting observations from the Detroit Auto Show press/industry previews. I actually attended the Washington DC Auto Show this last weekend and am planning on going to the Detroit Show the weekend of the 18th. I will also be going to the NYC show in April since it is just a quick train ride from my NYC/NJ apartment. At first, I was puzzled by the new MY06 GS but the more ... Read More

  • A few observations and questions for the board....

    Written by: merc1 on Jan 7, 2004 12:13:09 AM

    Just curious to know what the group here thinks about some of the new luxury debuts at Detroit. It appears that Audi is going to step to the major leagues with the new A8L 6.0 W12 by the end of the year, it will priced around 115K. Yikes! Double yikes because the Phaeton W12 (10hp less btw) is priced at 88K. On paper it makes the Audi version look like a ... Read More

  • ljflx

    Written by: merc1 on Nov 4, 2003 9:32:01 PM

    Sales trends - I agree completely. It's a up and down thing. If you look at it the S-Class should dive this year, with a new A8, Phaeton and XJ, plus the revised LS, and the still somewhat new 7-Series on hand. Mercedes' marketing maching is so well-oiled though and they gave the S a new trans and 4Matic to keep things fresh until that faithful day in 2005 when it ... Read More

  • High-End News, Bentley and Jaguar

    Written by: jagboyxtype on Jul 15, 2002 1:02:42 AM

    The new Bentley flagship is to share its platform with the Volkswagen Phaeton and Audi A8, the platform is internally known as D3. It will come with all-wheel-drive from Audi, an aluminum body, a six-speed automatic transmission, and a turbocharged 8.0-litre W16 engine producing about 1,000 horsepower from the new Bugattis. Its air suspension will come from the Volkswagen Touareg. Long and short wheelbase models will be offered, prices start at ... Read More

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