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Manufacturer defect and no support for 2012 A4
Audi recently settled a big lawsuit for owners of 2009-2011 A4's that had oil consumption problems. The 2012's were not included in that lawsuit, and now that our car is out of warranty we are out of luck for getting their assistance with repair costs. It was first taken in for oil consumption problems when it was only 3 years old, and we paid for that service. Now that it is 2-3 years later the problem has returned and we are looking at either a $6,000 repair for pistons/rings or a $12-$15k replacement engine. We've paid off this vehicle, but it did not have an extended warranty. We use it for work and do a lot of highway miles, so it does have more than 100k miles. We've also had oil changes done at places other than an Audi dealership. All of those things worked against us. We have spent so much time and money on this issue, and on the care overall, that I would not recommend a 2012 A4 to anyone looking to purchase a used vehicle.
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Best bang for your buck for an AWD luxury sedan
This is my second Audi. I upgraded from a 2012 Audi A4 2.0T FWD with CVT. It was a great car. Great performance and gas mileage. However, I had an opportunity to upgrade to a quattro with the light package and 2013 upgrades. So far, the car is awesome. Drives even better with the Quattro and suspension and steering upgrades. And those lights, beautiful. The car is even more stricking then my 2012. I also like the 8 speed auto better then the CVT.
- 2.0T Premium Plus quattro SedanMSRP: $7,995140 mi away
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A4 Disappointment
at approximately 1000 miles on the odometer of my 2012 Audi A4 Avant Quattro, a strange noise began from the front area of the engine. The noise happens at the first startup of the engine regardless of ambient temperature. After about 2 minutes when the engine idles down the noise stops. Different Audi technicians at two dealerships have diagnosed the noise as 1) cam tensioners, 2) a bad bearing inside the cam case, 3) secondary blower motor and, 4) lash in the VVT system. None of the technicians have put a wrench on any of the named components because, according to the dealerships' service managers, Audi USA will not authorize repairs. According to Audi USA, the strange noise is a normal fu
Fantastic Vehicle
Traded an '11 Acura TSX for this 2013 A4 Premium Plus and so glad I did!! Could not get comfortable in the Acura, and too little rear seat room for the family. This Audi is "right sized" for a family of 4. Plenty of useable trunk space. Ride is composed but comfortable, 18 inch wheels help the car stick around corners, powerful brakes to haul the car down from speed which it gains easily from the 2.0 turbo running through 8 gears. Excellent fit and finish and an attractive sedan from any angle in my opinion. Electric power steering gives up some feel, but is far superior to that found in the Acura. I compared with BMW 3, Mercedes C class, Infiniti, and new Lexus ES. A4 was superior!
Can not wait to sell this car.
I bought this car brand new in 2013 and I've had issues ever since. The car is obviously a very low profile car and I live in New England so I went through 6 Pirelli tires before I finally put all weather continental tires on the car. The car does not drive as smoothly now but at least I have not gotten any bubbles in the tires or cracked any rims since purchasing the continentals. There have been multiple recalls for the heating system, air bags, electronic, etc. that have required repairs. The check engine light came on around 30,000 miles and required multiple valves to be replaced. The dealership claimed they were "faulty" but gave no explanation as to what or why. Then, at 41,000 the car DIED on the highway due to transmission failure. I had to have the vehicle towed in the middle of the night to the dealership. The ENTIRE transmission needs to be replaced. Again, the only explanation is that it was "faulty" and they are unsure what exactly went wrong. Thankfully the car is still under warranty, but this does not make me feel any better. There is no reason there should be this many issues and "faulty" parts on a car this new. I will definitely be selling this car in the Spring and have NO intention of buying another Audi. Every car has its issues, but given the amount I have had with this car in a short period of time with NO real explanation of the problems from the dealership, leads me to believe Audi's are not as reliable as the price tag would suggest.
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This car burns oil
"My car has been burning 1 quart of oil every 2500 miles. The dealer "fixed" it, but it still burns 1 quart every 3000 miles. Both the dealer and Audi told me that 1 quart every 1200 mile is within specs."
Poor transmission on the front track model
The cvt transmission is a nightmare on the front track model. At a stop, it takes a second for the car to take off when you press the gas. This can be a safety issue. I got rid of A4 Front track after two month of frustration and got a quattro instead. This bad choice cost me quite a bit of money. Fortunately, the quattro is a great car.
Our First Audi
After buying a 2013 VW Passat TDI in October for myself, it was my wife's turn for a new car. She had her heart set on a BMW 328i...until she got in one. Too small, too confining, truly baffling ergonomics. We then looked at another Passat TDI(too big), a Jetta TDI(too sparse), a Volvo S80(too something), and finally the Audi A4. We were both sold on it right away due to the Quattro and Nav systems. We immediately put 3,000 miles on it in the first week with a trip to Washington State. Handled perfectly on wet, icy and snowy roads, and was a really comfortable ride. No sign at all of the oil burning issue others have had after 3k miles, so hopefully that's a good sign.
Struck the (almost) perfect balance
I got this car as a stylish daily commuter that would also serve my need for winter drives to Tahoe and dinner with clients. Since I drive 90 miles round trip each day I wanted a car that was comfortable, fuel-efficient and stylish. I'm very pleased with the overall interior and exterior design which after looking at the usual suspects I think are clearly best in class. The car has also exceeded my expectations for gas mileage as I've been experiencing low to mid-thirties on the highway. I've been impressed with the important creature comforts during my drives including the seats, adjustable armrest and climate control.
Want a dipstick?
Drove 75 miles to get car we wanted. Replaced wife's 2006 Saab 9-3 Sportcombi; would have bought another Saab 9-3 if company hadn't gone belly up. Premium Plus is a well damped firm/rough ride over potmarked New England backroads; highway ride is excellent. Not a big fan of the electronic steering at highway speeds; poor feedback through steering wheel. Wife drives the car and gets 23-24 mpg; I drive and get 28-29 mpg. On the all highway drive home from dealership, trip computer showed 31.7 mpg with cruise at 75 mph; mpg ranges above are using miles driven/gallons to fill tank calculation. If we could afford a Q5 TDI, would get that for the wife, and take the A4 for myself. Updated review June 2016 at Edmunds' request. Now no longer see the contents of "Best Features" "Worst Features"; this blew away the content related to title... WTF! VW part number for dipstick 06J115611E, won't show up for A4 B8 CPMA engine because there is no dipstick in the car. This dipstick is for CBFA, CCTA engines which are used in Audi A3, VW CC, VW Tiguan, among others. Length is correct, but MAX reading is actually where the "X" on the "MAX" label is covered with oil. Updated review Dec 2016 at Edmunds' request. Real world mpg on a New Hampshire to Georgia trip 31 using Shell premium, 32 using Exxon premium; traffic permitting, drove speeds of 75 to 80 miles per hour w/cruise. Try to avoid buying gas in North Carolina; higher taxes than Virginia or South Carolina. Thanks to turbo's low rpm torque, car sails up steep interstate highway grades effortlessly. (Example: I77 from North Carolina into Virginia) Updated June 2017 at Edmunds' request. Highway trips returning 29-31 mpg on Shell Premium. Replaced original tires with Continental Pure Contact at 35174 miles (referenced Tire Rack reviews at the time); original tire's tread was still above wear bars, but didn't want to face winter with them. Now at 50300 miles. Have used dealer service up to 45k, prepaid at time of purchase. Dealer service adviser recommended paying out of pocket for service going forward; 55k mile service cheaper out of pocket. Anticipate using independent service facility going forward. Updated December 2017 at Edmunds' request. Doing 55k service myself with parts from Rock Auto, ECS Tuning, 502.00 oil from Walmart. Dealer service isn't worth the high price. Traded in Feb 2018 for 2017 Volvo XC60 that runs on regular gas; wife wanted newer technology, blind spot monitor, adaptive cruise.
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Exceptional quality -- bad sound system
I love this car -- it looks great inside and out, the build quality is extraordinarily high, and it offers just the right balance of tight handling, comfort, and size. Personally, I find the engine to be more than up to the task for fun driving (especially when combined with the sport suspension, which I also have), although if you're after raw horsepower you should probably look for something other than the A4 at this price. There's a little more understeer in aggressive turns than in the previous A4, but I can live with it. The Bang & Olufsen sound system upgrade is the only major disappointment -- I am a bit of an audiophile and the thin sound it produces really surprised me. (I didn't evaluate the sound very carefully when I bought the car.) In retrospect I'd get the stock system and find a way to upgrade with a third party if the budget allows.
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A really good luxury car
I have an A4 Premium Plus Quattro with the sports packages and a manual transmission. The interior and exterior are basically flawless - showing Audi's attention to details. I have driven over 70,000 miles since I purchased this new and have only had a few minor trim issues - nothing serious. The handling is AMAZING and the car is definitely quick for its class. I truly enjoy this car - twisty roads are the best as nothing seems to make the car cut lose. It is a very good looking car and the interior is incredibly comfortable - with nice soft-touch materials. Overall the car has been a positive experience and I would recommend it to anyone that asks. I only have two minor negatives about this vehicle - neither a reason not to purchase it: 1) The fact that it did not come with Bluetooth streaming unless you upgraded to the Prestige trim with the navigation system - a $4,000 upgrade for something that every Kia seems to come with by default. 2) I have had either indifferent or negative experiences every time I go to the Audi dealer (Plano, TX) for service - this has made it incredibly unlikely that I will ever purchase another Audi. Even with those negatives this is an amazing car and you should at least test drive it if you are considering it - that may make the decision easy for you! Update at 59,000 miles. At 47,000 miles my clutch went out (manual transmission). It was covered under warranty and they saw no sign of abuse. The head mechanic said that a clutch should last much longer - not sure what happened on mine. 85,000 mile update - still going strong with no big or even little issues.
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Think twice....
So after 1.5 years of ownership and 24k miles later I think I can firmly give a sound review. I have an 12 A4 Premium Quattro with convience pk and heated seats. I paid 35K plus taxes. Now for 35k you would expect a basic trip computer....no...xenon headlamps...no. Memory seats...no. These are options that are standard on a TSX. The ride quality is decent, on the highway is where you will feel most comfortable. The city is ok...it just feels sloppy to me. The interior is really nice and comfortable. The MMI is a pain in the ass to use. There is no logic to it in my head. I am not sure what the heck people are talking about in having great gas mileage..I barely get 300 with mix city highway
Love my A4, great value
This car is a great value. I bought it certified pre owned which I don't regret at all. Wonderful warranty come with it, maintenance included for some mileage intervals. The ride on this car is the best of any car I have had, I couldn't imagine a smoother ride at this price point! I like the navigation screen and map, but the screen could be bigger. Infiniti Q50 has the perfect screen size, get the queue from them! Trunk is huge, I love the way the trunk pops open when you hit the switch or button, if you have your hands full it's wonderful. There are hooks in the trunk ceiling for shopping bags so they don't fly around (genius!), both back seats fold down. The Bang & Olufsen stereo is top notch, clear and awesome sound, better than the Bose with Infiniti. I don't like that the car doesn't connect Bluetooth for music on your phone, that is such an easy add for a car company, the connector for the phone to play music is in the glovebox, very odd, and you can't have both that and the headphone connector in the armrest for music. Audi, fix this! I do like the CVT transmission, very smooth ride but it seems to have play in it when taking off sometimes, they can't find anything wrong but it's something to get used to, if they even make this trans anymore. I LOVE the led running lights, has to be my favorite feature! Looks awesome driving, and it's the last year with the individual dot lights before they made the continuous line light, just my preference. The gas mileage is amazing, I get almost 30 mpg with almost all city driving. Freeway driving takes it over 30. With the turbo you can't tell you are driving a 4 cylinder, I can't stress how I hated a 4 cylinder before, but with this car I love it Pros: gas mileage, smooth ride, solid feel, very stylish, big trunk Cons: no Bluetooth music feature, small navigation screen
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Love this car
Handling, ride, comfort, and noise level are all fantastic. I average about 30 mpg and I drive pretty aggressively. Build quality is excellent. I have a manual transmission with sport pkg, heated seats, bi-xenon headlights and the upgraded sound system and paid $35K. The stereo is fantastic too. The only problem I've had was the alignment getting out of whack for some reason, but the dealer corrected it and I haven't had any other maintenance issues to report.
8000 mile update
Wanted to update my review first made shortly after purchase. Have owned the vehicle for 8 months now and continue to be impressed by it. No problems after 8000 miles. Car was virtually unstopable in heavy snow (with 4 Pirelli snows mounted) this past winter. I average 26-28 mpg in mixed drving; best tank 34 mpg highway at 70 mph. Despite what some others have noticed, the engine has not consumed any oil in its first 8000 miles. Break the engine in as directed in the manual and there should not be any problem.
I thought it would be a reliable car.....but no
When I bought this car used in 2015 it ran well for about a year, then I needed to replace struts and a water pump. I am now having problems with my Engine Control Module which other than the dealership no one else wants to touch it. This car looks great but rides very uncomfortably and uses a lot of oil.
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Cannot duplicate
Purchased Nov 8, 2011. Odometer now shows 4015 miles (as of Feb 10, 2012 when it was towed to dealer). Beginning at about 1000 miles, engine made serious noise when first started in the mornings. To an untrained ear, it sounds like a bad bearing noise emanating from something at the front of the engine. Car has been to dealer service twice for a cumulative 9 days. Techs and Service Advisor have listened to audio recordings of the noise, but report that they cannot duplicate the problem; hence, they cannot fix the problem. I found several YouTube postings by A4 owners with the same problem. Dealer says, "it's normal," yet, it did not make the noise for the first 1000 miles.
Audi Avant Oil Burner
Do not purchase 2012 Audi Avant Wagon unless you want to add a quart of oil every 300 miles - worse vehicle ever!
Love it!
I bought an Audi A4 2.0T a month ago and have loved the short time I've owned this car. I switched from a BMW 325. My wife has previously had an Audi Q7 and currently drives the Infiniti QX56. I think this car has the best styling both inside and out compared to any car in its class. It is fun to drive and nimble although I must admit that my 3 series gets a little bit of an edge in the driving department (that's what bimmers are known for). But overall, in my opinion, the audi a4 is a more complete car than the 3 series if you take everything into account. I have 1500 miles on the car and am averaging between 29 and 30 mpg based on mostly highway driving.
AllFun_GreatTimes
Excellent value for the money. Upgraded from a 2008 A4 to the 2013 A4. Added an APR tune package ( stage II) and WOW...amazing power and better fuel economy. The manual is smooth shifting through all gears. This A4 turns Canadian winters to balmy leisurely drives. The AWD grips and keeps the sedan true and straight. It's been very inexpensive to own and maintain...these are amazing vehicles. Other than regular maintenance, zero issues.
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My engine is gone!!! fabric defect very Sad
I have an Audi A4 (VIN: WAUAFAFL9DA143522 / IEN913) bought on April 25, 2013. Recently, I took the car to the service area due to the fact that it was vibrating vigorously while driving. The diagnosis was that a piston was broken and a whole engine replacement was required. In conversation with my service advisor,he informs me that etiology of the damage is related to a factory defect. The car has a current mileage of 21,997 and I have been most responsible with the recommended service schedule, including oil and filter changes. The car has been going through many issues since I bought. I left it in the service area, with the keys, I didn't wanted again!!!
Overpriced and sparse
The car is nimble with excellent acceleration and tight steering. But the cabin is bare enough to remind one of Mother Hubbard's Cupboard. Everything that is standard on a Kia is an extra here. For a $35,000 car you do not even get a self dimming rearview mirror. The MMI is clunky and anti intuitive. The stereo system is bare bones. Milage is about 17 city and 25 higway.
A4 died early
Engine needed pistons and rings at 100k miles, cost almost as much as it was valued.
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2012 Audi A4 Premium Plus
Bought a new 2012 A4 in November. I was shocked that a $40,880 vehicle does not support Bluetooth Audio streaming when a budget car like the Ford Fiesta does! The rear headrests are so large that they block 20% of the rear windshield. The Bluetooth voice command requires a separate phonebook that requires user entry The steering feels artificial and loose and lacks good road feel. My highway gas mileage has been 24 MPG but the spec said 29 MPG. I have been very gentle with the accelerator (less than 2000 rpm) and only drive highway so this is far lower than I expected. I get 30 MPG in my Accord when the spec says 29. The instantaneous MPG on the trip computer says 200 MPG sometime
I love this car
It is a nice car, it is not a performance car. I went from a Hemi Challenger with 380 horsepower to this so I might be biased or off on my judgment a little but it is quick and fast but not great acceleration. the automatic seems to hesitate when I step on the gas. I like to use the auto/manual shift but worry I might be putting too much wear and tear on the tranny. It handles great. I can go on "on ramps" and "off ramps" at about 80 and no tire squeal. It is fun to drive. I live the leather seats are comfortable and classy. I am thinking of getting a performance mod on the ECU. I bought this used with about 30k on it. great used car for $20K. Now I have about 65K miles and the car is still great. I haven't had any trouble with it at all. Just a great car to drive
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405 lbs
Great value for a comfortable daily driver. 15,000 miles in 1 year and zero problems. Facelifted B8.5's rarely suffered the oil consumption that plagued many B8's. My A4 has an 8-speed automatic so it is a flex fuel vehicle.
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Don't buy this car
The 2013 Audi A4 is no longer a good buy. I am on my third and the changes to the steering have made this car a poor buy. The steering has become loose and numb and when driving past 60 you feel has if you have no control of the car. The 2.0 turbo also bangs constantly at low speeds and if your try to accelerate fast all you get is a pedal of air. Driving this car used to be fun but has become typical of an American car with too much over steer and lack of initial power. The mileage is nowhere 25 but rather a 20 overall and the company suggests premium gas. Buy a volkswagen jetta instead .
Audi at its best.
i leased this car for 3 years and 40k miles. I never got a check engine light. I took it to the dealer for standard oil changes only. Performance was enough for me and the fuel economy was pretty good. The quattro was excellent in the snow. I drove it in a few snow storms. The only bad thing about driving this car was how many tires I blew due to potholes. Pirelli tires have weak sidewalls.. not forgiving in TrIstate area roads.
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So far, so good.
I decided to take a chance on a German vehicle with reservations about reliability. I've put 4k miles on the car so far with no issues. Very happy with all aspects of the car. Handles well, gets good mileage (right at 25 overall) and is very comfortable. I have the sport package and was concerned that the ride might be punishing, however it is just firm and still very comfortable. The dealer experience has been excellent. I've had no issues with it burning excessive oil as some others have had. Hopefully the positive trend will continue.
Loyal A4 driver disappointed
This will be my 5th A4 in either a sedan or wagon version. While the car looks great inside and out and the improved HP over the years has added to the thrill of driving the new electronic steering has certainly been a negative. If you are looking for a soft feel to lumber off to the grocery store the steering is fine but push it a bit or take a long highway trek and you will notice the floaty feel. Overall the car is fine but if your a searching for a tight steering / handling feel you may want to give the car a good test drive before you purchase. After this lease is up I will definetly look at a tighter car like the BMW.
dynamics = great, everything else = meh/poor
We leased 2 of them. We loved our first one (a 2010), although it had an oil problem and the rearview mirror kept on falling off. The second one was a nightmare. The car shipped with a torn front seat. The first one had 60/40 folding rear seats. The second one didn't. The guy screwed up our order, but by the time we realised this, it was too late. Also the fuel economy for each car SUCKED!!!! Every 2 weeks we paid $60+ for hi-grade petrol (for comparison, our 2015 328xi costs around $35 to fill for the same duration). The ergonomics were a mess. The backseat was the size of the backseat of a coupe (i.e. nonexistent). Caveat Emptor!
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A good choice for its class
I just upgraded from my 2010 A4 to the 2013. The 8-speed automatic provides smoother acceleration and better mileage (averaging over 25mpg in mixed driving). They fixed some of the annoying bugs in the "Infotainment" system. However I was disappointed to see the folding rear seats move to the premium plus package. The new brown interior is ill-conceived. Should have been a lighter saddle-brown as offered in the BMW. Overall, it's a good value for the class, and works better for me than the 3-series.
Excellent car
I've had my 2012 Avant for 2 years and 27,000 miles and I've experienced no problems so far (knock on wood). It's comfortable on long hauls and I don't get the back aches that I used to. This is odd, because I don't feel like the seats are as comfortable when you first sit in them, but yet, somehow they work well even after 4+ hour drives. It's fairly sporty and has punch when you need it. Very well planted in the rain, lending confidence in adverse conditions. Buttery smooth transmission 97% of the time, but it doesn't like slow stop and go traffic. Putting it in sport for those times stops the lurching.
Great high school car
I can’t say how satisfied I am with my 2013 Audi A4 because I think it’s a smart purchase for a teen’s first car. I love the handling, acceleration, and electronics.
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From the Atlantic Ocean to the Rocky Mountains
Audi performs like a champ. Regular dealership service is recommended since they know your car best. Beware of excessive oil usage in some cars though.
Car burns oil
My 2013 Audi A4 2.0T burns about 1 quart of oil every 2000 miles. I had read about this issue with older A4, but the dealer had sworn that the problem had been resolved. Apparently not!
Premium with NAV
Have wanted a sport wagon for quite some time. Finally got around to it and found out that BMW 5 series Wagon, Audi A6 Avant and Passat Wagon are no longer being made. The Subaru is too SUV like, the BMW 3 series too small and the Passat Wagon not up to snuff. That left the Audi A4 Avant and the Acura TSX wagon. Was not an easy choice given the $8K to $10K price difference, but I like the look, drive, power and rear seat accessibility much better on the Avant. Only have 1,000 mile on it, but love driving it. Also, it's pretty limited and will not be made after this year, so is not something you see every day. Am very happy with the Avant and really glad I bought it.
Nine years old and still in love with it!
Beautiful style and drives beautifully.
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Loving MY AUDI
I love Audi, it runs great and I have the 8 speed automatic, I got this baby up to 140 and it just glides down the Road!
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Burns oil
The 2009-2012 2.0 engines have a piston ring problem that cause excessive oil consumption. I was adding 1qt every 600 miles!
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oil consumption
hilarious. an engine consuming 1 quart per 1000 miles is about the industry standard recognized oil consumption limit, yes, even for brand new cars straight off the lot. anything over that MAY be the symptom of a problem. this is a turbo vehicle, which means even a higher likelihood of oil consumption, EVEN IF everything is mechanically perfect. it's apparent that a vast majority of the population does not understand the internal workings of an internal combustion engine.
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Transmission problem on new car
Car just has 400 miles on it, and first time I found the problem with the trasmission when stuck in traffic. I feel a strong bump when remove a foot from brake and push a gaz pedal. I took it to a local Audi dealer in Norwell. They said that this is a characteristic of a new 2012 A4 transmission and that this is how this new transmission was design, which sounds like BS. Supposed to take it back to Bernardi Audi, where I got it from to see what they can found. Otherwize it runs OK.
Great Smaller Luxery Car
bigger car feel in a smaller package, well thought through features, great road handling and feel!
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Best smooth car
I love my car. It rides very smooth like butter and is beautiful
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great car
Runs really nice and smooth
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Not sure want to relpace the 2013Passat with this!
Bought it with 104K miles on 5/11/19 from its original owner in Chattanooga. Fit, finish, and look is excellent. With 18" wheels and 40 profile tires it drives harder than I like. At 3700 pounds, it is very heavy for its size. Too many busy buttons in center console that I could spill coffee on and destroy. At 5' 9", when I get in, I don't sit on the seat, I drop in it. That is a part I don't like and will have a tough time getting used to. You drop into a Mustang and Camaro and not in a four door car! The back seat leg room is very small. My 2013 Passat SE with its 2.5L engine drives and handles extremely well. The only negative thing about the Passat is its bland exterior look. Jury is still out as which one I will sell by end of the summer.
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