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"Any car warranty usually expires based on time or mileage - whichever comes first..." No joke. However, we were told that when we purchased the 100,000 mile extended warranty, it gave us an additional three years of warranty for our money. We were told it normally sold for $2,500 plus, but they sold it to us for less. Comes to find out, we were lied to about that TOTALLY. Our warranty ... Read More
I am replying to previous posts responding to johnwang. John was right! I want EVERYONE to know, that in the past two weeks, I found out through Orange Park Mercedes that WE WERE GROSSLY MISLEAD AND DECEIVED BY OUR SALESMAN when we purchased our extended warranty from the PENSACOLA MERCEDES DEALERSHIP in Pensacola, Florida. I believe there's only one MB dealer there, so you don't have to worry about getting them ... Read More
The best to fix it is REPLACING THE CAR!!! I changed it last November for a 2011 GLK350 Fantastic Ride and build like a tank, proudly made in Germany! absolutely no problem whatsoever. I lost money on the R350, they updated the software, and some other things but they could NEVER pinpoint the random shifting problems and shake ups. This adds up to alternator problems, early serpentine failure, battery failures, the ... Read More
i leased a 2007 r-350 in may of 07 i have had brakes done 3x and the light is on again so this would make 4x. i had to have sunroof repaired which was never done to my complete satisfaction. my radio has gone completely out as well as my a.c. not to mention both the head and tail lights have been replaced numerous times. once my warranty ran out all ... Read More
Are you saying another 2 year 100K or do you mean exactly what you're typing: 2 year, 10,000, as in ten thousand mile warranty for $2,500 dollars? If so, BS for 10K miles. Also, he can do far better on that price and mileage. I would have gotten a far better deal btw. Last year, I bought a dealer's demo 2008, never titled with under 11K miles, with the extended 100K ... Read More
On the 2007 R350 and R500,Mercedes is giving $6500 of marketing incentives to the dealers that is usually passed on to the consumer. You might want to check what your lease numbers would be like on a 2007. What is the discount from MSRP that you are getting on the 2008 R350?
I think your numbers might be a bit optimistic. Back in October, 2006, Mercedes was offering $10,000 marketing incentives, and the dealers were willing to go about $16,000 under MSRP, not invoice. Of course, the vehicles are still not moving (witness the demise of the R500), and you might succeed. Please post your findings when you are finished negotiating. These forums are a great source of info for buyers and have ... Read More
First let me say thank you to all of the hosts and readers/contributors - this forum/board is a great source of information for so many things automotive!! Now my Question - We leased a 2006 Mercedes R500 at the end of the 2006 model year when factory and dealer incentives were almost too good to be true and R sales were in the toilet. We drove off with an R sporting ... Read More
Effective 8/7/2007 2008 Mercedes R320 CDI 4WD Wagon 24 Month Residual 64% of MSRP .00095 Base Rate 36 Month Residual 55% of MSRP .00135 Base Rate 48 Month Residual 45% of MSRP .00135 Base Rate 60 Month Residual 41% of MSRP .00370 Base Rate 2008 Mercedes R350 4WD Wagon 24 Month Residual 64% of MSRP .00080 Base Rate 36 Month ... Read More
I went to my local dealer to take a look at the 2007 R320 CDI and possibly take it for a test drive. They said they don't have any right now but expect to get some in late July. However he said they are likely to be the 2008. I would prefer the 2008 anyway since they're supposed to be cheaper but was surprised by the early date (I thought it ... Read More
As of July 15th 2007, Mercedes Benz is submitting new rates, due to the unpopularity of their July rates. Every one should wait for the new rates. Good luck
2007 Mercedes R320 CDI 4WD Wagon 24 Month Residual 63% of MSRP .00405 Base Rate 36 Month Residual 52% of MSRP .00370 Base Rate 48 Month Residual 45% of MSRP .00370 Base Rate 60 Month Residual 40% of MSRP .00370 Base Rate 2007 Mercedes R350 4WD Wagon 24 Month Residual 61% of MSRP .00100 Base Rate 36 Month Residual 53% ... Read More
Hello DWWS, I am in the process of leasing an R350 with the P2 package that has a MSRP of $53,100.00. I looking for the current Lease Money Factor and Residual Factor for a 7500 mile per year 48 month lease with MBCC. Also, are you aware of a factory $1000.00 rebate on the 2007 R350 models? Many thanks for your help!
I have a loaded R-350 2007 and after 2000 miles I noticed a lot of vibrations on the gas pedal when shifting between low gears and a tingling sensation when cruising betw 0-70 MPH. Dealer claims it is symptomatic of the R class because of its unibody build. I am still disputing the problems. The tingling sensation is killing me and my wife has refused to drive the car. It is ... Read More
Mercedes of Novi has this lease 2007 R320 4Matic $329/mo 10,000 mi a year $2500 due at signing Good?
This is good to know. Did they mention pricing? Apparently, prices are expected to go down a bit from 2007 model (at least in Europe). And did they mention if 2008 CDI is 50 state compliant? Did they have brochures printed for 2008?
Hi sand529: Yes, the MSRP is $51500. The salesman said that Mercedes does not lease for 36 month terms. He said they use 33 months or 39 months. I do not know if that is true, but the advertised offer for May 2007 on the Mercedes Benz website of $489/month for an R350 with P1 package & heated fron seats is for a 33 month lease (with a similar deal of ... Read More
Is the MSRP of the car $51,550? If so the upfront costs seem excessive especially the cap cost reduction of $5,000. And the 33 months is a bit odd? Do u know if you are going through a private bank or through MB Credit. Also are you sure you only qualify for Tier 2 credit? I just leased an R350 and the MSRP was $54,200 and the capitalized cost (selling price) ... Read More
This was not the drivers fault at all (thanks for the intelligence slurs and for the record she is a beautiful blonde ;) Pictures and complete forensic expert report: http://www.landxml.org/R320 Summary: The car was purchased new from Mercedes of Colorado Springs, Colorado. A defective Mercedes "4Matic" system caused the rear tire to explode causing $25,000 in car damage and $1500 damage to home. Mercedes and the dealer will not stand by ... Read More
What I was told by a dealer was that Mercedes switched production resources from the R500 to the GL450 which has been selling like hotcakes. The R500 has only had poor sales, so it only makes sense. I don't think we'll see the screaming deals of a few months ago at the end of this year because there just won't be the extra inventory. I think there are plenty of R350s ... Read More
C-Class unveiling live on the Internet The countdown has began for the world premiere of the new C-Class in the Mercedes World in Stuttgart-Untertόrkheim. The press conference, which will be attended by some 600 journalists from around the world on 18th January 2007 can be seen live on the internet from 7:00 to 7:40pm (CET) by using a link that will be provided by DCX in the coming hours. Following the ... Read More
I'm thrilled to see some info on the New Mercedes Benz S450. Is that pretty "solid" info that it will be in the US in July 2007 as an '08? All I see around now is the S 550. Marty
I see according to Edmunds that Mercedes is offering ten grand cash to dealers on the 2006 R Class, as well as 4.9 financing for as much as 66 months. Is there any difference between the 2006 and 2007 models? Any major mechanical mods or improvments? Any reason to go for a 2007 instead of the 2006?
Sorry... re the post#355 (2007 R500) forgot to mention I am in NJ. Looking to go to Ray Catena Mercedes on Rt.1 in Edison, NJ. Thanks
It looks like you are getting about $5800 off MSRP. At this point in the model run, I think that is about as good as you are going to find. Apparently, MB has a 5.5% "Dealer Holdback" on these vehicles, giving the dealers only about another $3600 to play with beyond invoice. If you are not in a big hurry, you might want to wait for Mercedes Winter Sales Event which ... Read More
First, the real deal on these Mercedes R Class vehicles is the 2006 vintage. With up to $16,500 off MSRP on these cars, you are getting pre-refunded about 25% out of the 35% depreciation part of your lease (based on 15,000 miles/yr.), leaving you to only pay for about 10% of the MSRP in depreciation. Even with the money factor at .00400, that break on the depreciation component of your lease ... Read More
First, the "perfect storm" lease situation that we have applies largely to the 2006 models. What I mean is that because of the huge discounts from MSRP, the "selling" price of your vehicle will be about 22% to 23% less than MSRP. That is to say that your original "selling" price is already a "residual value" of 77%. In 27 months, Mercedes would like to delude themselves into believing the vehicle ... Read More
1. I do not have a feel yet for the pricing on the 2007's. The Mercedes sponsored leasing program suggests a selling price of $47,160.59 based on an MSRP of $48,700 for the 2007 R350 27 month lease, but suggest a selling price of $45,494 on a $54,175 2006 R350 (about $9700 off MSRP)which is still about $2000 to $3000 higher than what dealers are really letting the vehicles go for. ... Read More
I have learned more on leasing on this car than my previous 6 leases (3 mercedes, 2 bmw's, and a land rover). This may be a long post! The basics of leasing are this: You are only paying for how much the car depreciates during your lease term (affected by the number of miles you drive) and the interest rate (money factor) on your "loan." What determines the depreciation cost is ... Read More
Thats why its better to lease. When the lease is up, you then could decide if you like the car or not. Look at what the pay off is and look at the Blue Book value. If your payoff is low and you like the car, then buy it. If the payoff is high and you like the car, you could try to renegotiate with Mercedes. Mercedes will negotiate. If you ... Read More
Whoa, that is a as big a price drop I've seen on any Mercedes since 1994! Both the R350 and R500 are 5K cheaper for 2007, including shipping. That and the revised packages should help get them moving a little better now, but MB has to put some advertising behind the R again too. Germans it seems never say quit and MB hasn't yet given up on the weakest of the ... Read More
On which MB website did you see the $8k factory to dealer cash? On the Edmunds website under rebates and incentives, they are listing $7000 factory to dealer cash. I am glad that you found the Mercedes of Walnut Creek $12,000 off MSRP coupons!!
The Mercedes website. The lease offer is for 2006 R350 $2999 (?) 499/mo. 27 months lease. I took the 10K/ year lease because I wasn't sure if I like this car or not. But I am glad I did. I test drove many other SUVs, The 38K Toyota and Honda Vans. This one surprised me with just 46K but fully loaded. Sticker price on it is 54K with Navigation, Preminum sounds ... Read More
I just checked the Mercedes of Walnut Creek website. They are offering a "minimum of $12,000 off MSRP" on the 2006 R 350 and R500. Check with them!!
Check this Forum section: Mercedes R Class: Lease Questions. I think your quote is approaching a full MSRP price on the vehicle with no discount at all. I hope you comparison shopped a few other dealers in the Bay Area before pulling the trigger on this one. I understand the dealer in Walnut Creek had been offering significant discounts on the R's during these past few weeks. Mercedes is still giving ... Read More
Well I think they've already shaken off the build quality complaints with the newer models like the SLK, CLS and now the S-Class. ALl have much better interiors than before, and in the case of the CLS a real upgrade from the E-Class on which it is based. Though the E is hardly bad having improved greatly over the previous E. I'm guessing the SLK will pick up this month being ... Read More
Well the SL is still a little different from other Benz models in that it has a longer production run. There have only been 3 SLs during my lifetime, and the oldest of those last 3 was on sale before I was born! M
Sales were up 21+ percent for May 2006 vs. May 2005. The S,E,R,SL,SLK and new GL were all responsible for this huge gain. Dealers must be giving away 06' E-Classes ahead of the new 07' model arriving at the end of June. The R-Class moved only 1400 or so units, still not up to what MB needs in order to meet their goal of 20K a year. The GL was the ... Read More
I bet the fallout has been something around the office! I wonder what they'll do for the next generation R, if there is one. It is amazing though because the R had a long lead from 2002 onwards as a concept and the interest seemed to be sky high during promotion, but then it hit the showroom floor with a thud. Here is a post I made over at MBWorld.org: This ... Read More
Worldcarfans (in the Germancar section) has a timeline for upcoming Mercedes 2007 (in the U.S.) model introductions. Article In short: USA: ML63 AMG 4MATIC July 2006 USA: CLS550 September 2006 USA: CLK63 AMG Cabriolet September 2006 USA: GL450 4Matic May 2006 USA: E-Class July 2006 USA: R320 CDI October 2005 und R63 AMG 4MATIC September 2006 It appears that the R500 and ML500 keep the ancient SOHC 5L V8! Don't get ... Read More
Funny thing is most MB owners will pay more for a high-grade product and I was willing to pay considerably more for a unique and high-grade product. Unfortunately, lowering the price is not a fix for me at all and I equate this to like buying something at OVERSTOCK.COM. This is true because Mercedes has never had a problem with selling cars at high prices when the car was worth it. ... Read More
It is very interesting as to how the R didn't become a hit considering all the marketing and auto show hoopla that it had for nearly 3 years starting from the original Vision GST days. That said Mercedes won't drop the R, but they'll likely re-package it for 2007 with lower prices and more standard equipment and if that doesn't work they'll just have to make do. In the end it ... Read More
Since there is no 2006 G I hope for the 2007 re-fresh they'll give the G some modern Benz technology! M
"1.Rear view camera, 2) Cooled Seats 3) Better voice activated nav (as in Acura-Infiniti) 4)Better integrated control for Active Seat (currently looks like a JC Whitney add-on)" You should be grateful for what they have. Its a Mercedes Benz. Just imagine, you could spend $80,000 for the Merceds G500 and its nav is still a CD Rom and with none of the wishlist items that you want. A R Class is ... Read More
Well there a couple of Benz salespeople that chime in on the R-Class board from time to time that have hinted that a major re-shuffle of the R-Class' standard/optional equipment is on tap for the 2007 model year. This would be in repsonse to slow R-Class sales. Just a guess at this point. Yes I have read (Automobile Magazine) that a R320 CDI will show up here before the end of ... Read More
The recently introduced 3.5L V6 now has direct-injection. In short 292hp/270lb-bt of torque/26 MPG, 288hp for the U.S. market conversion. We should see this engine late this year for the facelifted 2007 E350 and as always the ML350,R350,CLK350, and SLK350 will all get this engine sooner or later, but probably sooner. For the 2007 model year on some of these would be my guess. Article M
The AMG parade starts: Presenting the CLK63 AMG: In Short 482hp and 465lb-ft of torue, 2007 model for the U.S. late summer/fall. Replaces the current CLK55 AMG Cabriolet on the U.S. market. The CLK55 Coupe was dropped for 2006. No word on wether or not we'll get the CLK63 Coupe. Also the CLS63 AMG: In short: 515hp and 465lb-ft of torque, replaced the CLS55 AMG. More hp, less torque, but more ... Read More
Lastly, as I have mentioned before, Mercedes could greatly increase their JD score by eliminating the free lifetime roadside assistance. For whatever the reasoning, if I happen to run over a nail and the certified Mercedes Tech comes out in his ML to put my spare on, it will count as a complaint. It is considered a warranty claim against the vehicle. I'm confused here. JDP has access to look that ... Read More
So far we know about the new S-Class - S450, S550, S600 and now the S65 (which should be here by late summer). The new GL-Class - GL450 is only model slated for the U.S. so far, can't see why we won't get the larger V8 GL500 (GL550 in the U.S.). On sale in late March/early April. At some point over the next 6 months the CLK500, E500, CLS500, R500, and ... Read More
I assume that this also applies to the ML 500 as well ? In an earlier post I replied to this with a "yes" regarding the ML500 becoming the ML550 with the new 5.5L V8. However, Mercedes debuting the new GL with the new 4.6L 340hp V8 first which begs the question as to whether a ML450 will replace the ML500 or with they have both the ML450 and ML550 for ... Read More
It appears that for 2007 the E and CLS models will no longer use the SBC braking system. I didn't think Mercedes would spend the money to make such a running change, but apparently it is being incorporated with the facelift of the E-Class and since the CLS uses the same chassis it will also lose the electro-hydraulic brakes. Whoopie! Article Smart, but costly move. M
I assume that this also applies to the ML 500 as well ? Yep. All the "500" cars will become "550" cars for 2007. CLK, SL, CL, S, E, CLS, ML, R and the new "GL" will all get the new V8. There might be a "450" version of some of these running the smaller 4.6L V8 from the upcoming S450 (335hp), but that isn't clear. M
Well the CLS500 will most definitiely become the CLS550 for the 2007 model year. Since the S is the first to have this new engine I would exepect than any CLS models ordered past Feb-March 2006 will be the a 2007 model, just a guess. M
when is the new v8 coming out? wouldn't that make the resale on the present v8 pretty bad? New V8 R550 (382hp) for 2007. We may get a 335hp 4.6L V8 R450 also, not sure about that. There should be a R320 CDI for 2007. Will likely hurt resale of the "old" V8 models being sold now. I hope that for 2007 Mercedes makes some of these packages standard, especially on ... Read More
Ok, I'll bite. What's up with the 2.5L, 200HP C230? Why isn't it the C250? Are they trying to be like Lexus with a 2.5? Nothing to do with Lexus. The 2.5L V6 has been out in Europe since spring long before the IS250. I'm glad they didn't call it a "250" at this point to avoid confusion. I suspect that when the next C comes along it will be called ... Read More
An overview of the next 12 months: C-Class - Nothing but a long road ahead in the face of a new 3-Series and Lexus IS. New engines, all V6s will help maintain for 2006, but the 2007 model year will be a long one. Autoweek is reporting that AMG has built a few C63 AMGs, but I doubt we'll see the new AMG V8 in the current C-Class body. E-Class - ... Read More
Supposedly some of those features are coming for the 2007 model along with the new 382hp V8 from the 2007 S500. Not sure if there will be a 335hp R450, but around this time next year there will be a R320 CDI. That is a good list of things though and I'm surprised they aren't present. I too like the R and think its a good concept in need of some ... Read More
Somone suggested this in another forum, but Mercedes should think about tweaking the standard engines for use in their SUV/Crossover vehicles. The 2007 R500 will no doubt get the new 5.5L DOHC 382hp/390lb-ft of torque V8 from the 2007 S500, but the R350's V6 should have been tweaked for a little more hp and/or torque in the R350/ML350 twins imo. Both "350" models need bigger standard wheels/tires, they look so "base" ... Read More
Welcome to the forum. MB has put out a little on the engines they will offer for the "R" class vehicles. What I read was first we get the gas versions 350 & 500 same as the ML. Next and in conjunction with the mandate on ULSD for the entire USA, they will add the 320 V6 CDI (diesel) & a possible diesel/hybrid. I would be surprised if the diesel R ... Read More
I was also reviewing the sales results. I see year to date sales are down by 6.2%. Better build quality seems to be in place now and that may help sales. Sedans are indeed the key to volume. I am unsure about the next S-class: the 'spyshots' I am seeing show a lot of Maybach styling cues. I don't see how this will boost S-class sales. It will also reinforce the ... Read More
Sales were down 1.8 percent for May 2005 compared to May 2004. It seems that every Mercedes that isn't new is dropping and the brand new ones continue to post big gains. Details Here The CLS it seems continues to eat into the E-Class' sales. The SLK and M-Class were up 119.4% and 66.2% respectively compared to May 2004. The CLS sold 1550 units while the E-Class sold 3569 units (down ... Read More
In reading some other sites tonight there is a lot of talk about whats upcoming in the Benz lineup, here is what we know and the latest rumors by model year: 2006: CLK facelift new CLK350, C-Class new 2.5L, 3.0L, and 3.5L V6 engines, R-Class, M-Class, SLK280. S350 added to the S-Class lineup in the U.S. More standard equipment on all S-Class models for the final run of the S-Class. 2007: ... Read More
I'm most sure that that the 2006 SL won't see any changes, but the 2007 model will including a new V8. The U.S. market won't see the SL350 either. SL and CL are V8s only and upper V8s at that. No V6s or small V8 engines in this market. Stroudman, On my usual Sunday stroll through the local Benz lot I noticed today that the dealer here has every version of ... Read More
Well at this point there are two Mercedes models that are pretty much definitely getting a facelift for 2007, the E-Class and SL. The E won't be anything dramatic, new V8, interior changes, equipment, lights, bumpers you know that type of stuff. The SL however is supposed to get a SLR/SLK type nose, and I agree that will ruin the car because unlike the SLR and SLK the SL wasn't designed ... Read More
I really don't see where Mercedes is doing anything different from any other luxury brand when it comes to SUV/Crossovers. BMW has 2, Lexus has 3 so why shouldn't Mercedes grab a piece of this market? Three different models, R-Class, M-Class and G-Class with varying purposes. Makes sense to me. The 2007 G-Class should however be a true Range Rover competitor, no doubt. M
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