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Thanks for your advice on the throttle connector. I haven't had the throttle body issue come up again since the second replacement in 2007, but shortly after that procedure I began to get smoke from the exhaust pipe on a "cold" start to the car (i.e. after it was sitting for awhile). The dealer took the entire engine apart and found sludge from the prior leaseholder (Jaguar owned before I bought ... Read More
a 2006 XJ8 and XJ8L to my friend's 2002 XJ8, a few questions came to mind... 1. the reviewers consider the 2006 XJ8 roomy, both front and back seats...did they lengthen the new design so that the 2006 XJ8 has the same rear seat room as the 2002 XJ8L???...(which would make the newer 2006 XJ8L even longer still???)... 2. HID headlights are standard on 2006, along with adjustable pedals (I am ... Read More
Hi all, I'm looking at a Liquid Silver/Ivory 2007 XJ8 VDP lease. What have others been paying over invoice??? I've gotten a dealer to agree to 2.18% over, but would like to pay 1%, sound reasonable? Jaguar incentives are quite good now at $6200 cash back and 4.9% money factor. Thoughts on trying to get 1% over invoice, 2.18% puts me about $100 less than the national average via edmonds info. ... Read More
Here's the link: 1sttimer1, "Jaguar S-Type" #957, 8 Oct 2007 10:29 am.
Total Total December January 2006 2007 Lexus 176 104 BMW 91 58 Mercedes-Benz 84 51 Audi 45 24 Jaguar 9 8 Aston Martin 1 1 Rolls-Royce 1 1
You are better off leasing a 2007, assuming there are no lease deals on a 2006. The residual value on a 2007 is higher than a 2006, so the actual amount of the car you are leasing is less. If you are purchasing the car and intend to keep it for a long period of time(ie resale not an issue) then you can get a better purchase price on a left ... Read More
Seeing many new 2006 XJ8L on market want to lease in the last month. Q: Am I better off purchasing 2006 or 2007? Anyone know money factor (most important buy rate) on lease? What about residual percentage? I am in Southern California. Thanks, Steve
"Perhaps you should move yourself to a land where people are not as manipulated by marketing as in the US! The biggest the crock that has ever been pulled on humankind is the product called Mercedes! How people will flock to it just because of the 3-pointed star. It wasn't long ago when I walked into a Benz dealer and I pointedly asked the dealer why I should buy a MB ... Read More
Yeah, you'd think they would be smarter than that, but they have proved otherwise for too many years. Even if GM or Ford built one, they'd no doubt skimp on the necessary things to make it a true success. Remember the Fiero with it's low strangling budget? They shot themselves in the foot. True, but I actually see more hope for GM than Chrysler and more for Chrysler than Ford. The ... Read More
Unfortunately the Jaguar XF concept wasn't there for public viewing, only the press days. The Ford/Lincoln concepts didn't impress me. Its pretty hard to get worked up over their concepts when they never build them. Ford needs both of those cars, but I'd be shocked if they actually brought them to production. Yes I like the new X5. Haven't been to a dealer to check it out though so..... Yes the ... Read More
Merc1, I greatly appreciate your very informative write up about your Detroit visit. Now where are those photo shots you took there? What amazes me most Merc is not what you wrote but what you did not write. Have you not forgotten the “L” brand that was once the biggest luxury auto brand in USA? The Lincoln MKR IMO is one of the most exciting cars in this year’s auto show. ... Read More
This year seems to have been more crowded than in recent years, maybe because I went on the first public day. It was very tough to get good pics this year, but I stil managed to get some great shots. I will posts the pics in a day or so. Now down to the business: Jaguar - The XF concept wasn't present. It was only for the preview days. They did ... Read More
A for the C&D review it's also amazing here that people think Lexus buyers reject it for any reason other than logic and common sense. The LS430 would have beaten the LS460 by a light year according to them and you'd need a Fred Flintstone breaking system to stop the car. Sure. As I stated earlier if I missed a cross check on checks and balances of earlier results like that ... Read More
I, too, look at AutoSpies sometimes to watch the posts. It's pretty hilarious. The people there are in constant fighting- it's like Lexus vs. Audi vs. BMW all the time! It's much more civilized here. And I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm assessing all the cars in the high-end class, from worst to best: Jaguar XJ: Old-world British charm just doesn't cut it any more. This car is beautiful ... Read More
I haven't seen a 2007 car that has a good looking color scheme yet. 98% of all new car interiors are egg shell, gray, black tan, etc. NO red, blue, yellow Green. Buy a Maserati QP. They'll be happy to use any color leather you like.
OK, here is my first question! How come the cars today are always done is bland colors?? ie: When you buy a ANY car today the interior (and most of the time) the exterior looks like seating for "The almost dead"? I haven't seen a 2007 car that has a good looking color scheme yet. 98% of all new car interiors are egg shell, gray, black tan, etc. NO red, blue, ... Read More
J.D. Power and Associates rated Jaguar as number one in Sales Satisfaction for a 3rd consecutive year. The Jaguar brand has earned the top quality award from the German motoring magazine Auto Zeitung's . The Jaguar XK was Recommended for the 2007 Award in the Premium Sporty/Performance Car category by Consumer Guide. The fact that a such a small company like Jaguar which happens to be owned by a financially trouble ... Read More
By now, you shold have received info regarding this or a similar problem. As of this date, there is an embargo on the sale of ALL 2006 & 2007 Jag XJ's, due to a fuel tank issue. The solution is at hand, and I presume all XJ's will be refitted with a newly designed gas tank.
Tagman, if Warren Buffet were a car nut, he would be hot for an XJ right now. This is a pure Graham and Dodge value play. There is no downside risk because the market has already discounted the price. Moreover a buyer isn't going to be caught in the classical "value trap" of buying something that the market unreasonably discounts and then have it languish. There are catalysts out there that ... Read More
Apex Motorsport will develop a new Jaguar XKR for the FIA GT3 Championship. It will be a privateer effort and they plan to have the first six cars ready for the first event in the 2007 season. Jaguar racing news FIA GT3 Championship
mpg 19/27. Compares to: 16/24 2007 S550 17/26 2006 S430 17/25 2006 750i 18/27 2006 Jaguar XJ Vanden Plas
Anyone have any news on the 2007 XJ8's? Any differences? Thanx Jag made the following updates to the line for '06. I havent heard anything about additional major changes for '07. "All of the 2006 XJ models benefit from a number of upgrades, including more powerful engines, a new braking system, laminated glass for improved noise isolation, a driver-selectable automatic speed limiter, and a new tire pressure monitoring system. The chrome ... Read More
Anyone have any news on the 2007 XJ8's? Any differences? Thanx
I don't think it's necessarily Lexus alone that will be trouncing Mercedes-Benz in coming years... there are three main companies that have really upped their ante, and one is supposedly going to be as high of a seller as BMW and Mercedes-Benz by 2010: Audi- strongest MB/BMW competitor, because it has luxury and German engineering Infiniti- very sporty; closer to BMW than Mercedes-Benz Lexus- the complement to Infiniti, Lexus is to ... Read More
"Never let emotion rule a business decision." ;)
i dont know the numbers, residuals, but my dealer, whom i had bought 2 prior Jags, refused to deal, and said he was not happy with the rates & residuals, Jag was using to work deals. I know i walked away, after 4 very happy years in two different jags, and my new Porsche 997/911 will be here in June. I too am a business owner, i lease, but i do ... Read More
I have just seen my 1st 07 Jaguar Coupe on the Road, its a real head turning its beautiful, and sexy car, I have to get it. I was going to get the 6 series BMW but now, I want this. My only worry is residual values on Jag's they are usually not so great. I'm looking to lease one. (business owner) BMW has great residuals. Any info on the residual ... Read More
Merc1, the front end of the 2007 Jaguar XK comes from the 1960s Jaguar E-Type models. Some people have argued that the earlier Jaguar E-Type is the best looking car ever built. You can research one on ebay.com. According to Top Gear Magazine: "It's sonorous, it's sexy (it really, really is), it suggests of its owner a certain discretion a BMW 6-Series could never. It's indulgent, properly luxurious in a way ... Read More
You must see the 2007 Jaguar XK in person. I saw it at the New York Auto Show. Right now, it's one of the best looking cars on the road.
Some very interesting tidbits in this sentence: "Later this year there will be a cheaper 3.5 litre model, and by the end of the year, a hot XKR. In 2007, expect a V-8 diesel-powered XK." That means no Volvo I6 for Jag, although I suppose a Jagified Duratec 3.5 would be good for at least 265hp, which is competitive enough. I'm surprised that Jaguar will be using a V6 at all ... Read More
How do I answer this??? I am happy that your engagement with the Jag Super V8 is blissfull. Congradulations... You compared your 2001 LS430 w/a European Sport Package to a 2006 A8 and found it ponderous, slow and to have an unacceptable cabin noise level. The 2007 S550 was heavy and uninvolving and the CLS55 which is supercharged btw, always felt as if it were working hard, this compared to a ... Read More
Rolls-Royce - Two Phantoms on display. One short, one long. The LWB model is a big as a Peterbuilt. I'm still not a fan of this car, but its presence is undeniable. I guess beauty and grace aren't part of the Rolls-Royce theme anymore because the Phantom is neither. Why the better looking (at least in photos) 100EX (future Corniche) hasn't been shown outside of L.A. yet is beyond me. Land-Rover ... Read More
What are everyone's predictions for 2006 brandwise? What new products does everyone's fav brand have on the way (that we somewhat know about that is)? I'll start with the two most popular first. BMW - 300K+ units for 2006? The 3-Series continues its rollout and will save BMW's overall sales picture from the pending downturn in 7-Series sales. (a new S is in town). E-Class and 5-Series will duke it out ... Read More
The euphoria posts on the 2007 LS board. No need to say anyone with solid sales is heading for the coffin. I do see Lexus cracking 40k cars, maybe even 45K cars with this new car but I also think the whole segment will have increased car sales. Both the new S and new LS will generate a lot of enthusiasm and the LS hybrid will notch it up higher still. ... Read More
Well considering Mercedes the oldest carmaker around and new segments don't come along that often I'd say they've done pretty well to inpsire the creation of whole brands of synthetic cars with a copycat flagship to go along with it. Mercedes has proven itself time and time again over the years. Question is what segment has Lexus conqured? Lexus is the biggest wannabe in the automotive world, now switching their envy ... Read More
There's nothing wrong with comparing the production curve of any two car models. Just don't compare the first model year of one car with the winding down year of another, like what you were trying to do . . . that would be intellectually dishonest because we both know that cars sell much better in the early parts of its procution cycle. Again, you brought up the comparo between the CLS ... Read More
GS and IS, even in their best years, could not begin to compare to ES and RX sales. The same can not be said of E class. That's why GS and IS in their waning years was nearly as significant the decline of E class. It will next time they do since they GS and now IS are big contributers to Lexus' sales now. You won't be able to fall back ... Read More
Even if you lease, you're still going to get killed if you get a new Jag. Now that Jaguars are basically reliable cars, the best thing to do is to buy them at 3-4 years old. By 2007, a '04 XJ8 will have lost some 2\3 of its value, and you'll be able to buy it for less than the price of an X-type. You can buy a '98 XK convertible ... Read More
$52k in the 1980's was 4-5 times the average new car cost, and it was not barely discounted at all. Today, few even know exactly how much the true market price for an S-class is, what with $7000 discount, subsidized money-factor and inflated residual. I have been seeing S-350 advertized on lease deals below $450/mo! That's barely 1.5x the average new car cost. I can't help but ask so what? A ... Read More
Lexusguy, I wish I worked for Jaguar. I recommend everyone to visit prefergorgeous.com. The 2007 Jaguar XK is receiving outstanding reviews and it will sell like hot cakes. I think Jaguar will rule the luxury automobile industry because the company added a distinctive feature on the exterior of its automobiles for the 2006 and beyond models. The automobiles will be so distinctive than everything on the road.
Based on posts on the S-class board that's not the type of passion to be proud of. Personally I think all this passion nonsense is severely overblown and overhyped. If the passion was real the car would not lose value as rapidly as it does. In the 80's the passion argument made sense. Today it is total nonsense. Really? The excitement on the 2007 LS board is surely more indicative of ... Read More
Do you like the exterior styling of the RR Phantom? I personally find it hideous (distinctive, maybe, but still ugly), but it is still a luxury vehicle. Not really no, but it is distinctive and bold, something that can't be said of a lot of cars. You know what it is instantly, no copying or imitation of anything else on the road - I like that to a degree. Same thing ... Read More
We'll people always bashed Lexus for not having any kind of styling "direction" and that each car just kind of did its own thing. Now they are starting to build some cars with a "family" resemblance, and you're bashing them for that. What should they do? The XJ looks almost exactly like the old one. Jaguar took very few chances, and even if it does have a styling advantage over the ... Read More
'02-'04 MBs are the worst of the worst. Supposedly they are better for '05, but all the information so far is IQS. We wont really know until 2007 at the earliest whether or not the '05s will hold up. I'm not saying that every car is going to be a lemon, but if the risk of major electrical problems is 15-20% of cars, those are not good odds when the average ... Read More
The new 2007 aluminum Jaguar XK will help Jaguar cut costs. It will be a lot more fun to drive than the current XK8. They need to make an aluminum S-Type.
Thanks for the picture of the SuperV8 a few posts ago. XKSS, you have very accurate and detailed info on Jag. I think many of us here appreciate them. Lifelong Jag owner/mechanic/dealer?
Autoweek.com said on August 26th that the 2007 XK weighs 3,671 pounds and will have 300 hp. Jaguar's V-8 first came out in 1996 on the 1997 XK8. It goes on sale next spring and has a 31% increase in bodyshell stiffness over the previous generation steel-bodied XK. It uses the new XJ's aluminum chassis. It has a more blunt front bumper in order to comply with new European pedestrian safety ... Read More
I can't believe it. One of my wishes has come true! Mercedes-Benz has just decided to sell a S350 Sedan here for the final run of the current S-Class! Very interesting move. You know what this means right? They're getting buyers ready for the next-generation S350 as the entry level S-Class. http://www.mbusa.com/brand/container.jsp?/models/main.jsp&modelCode=S350V I can't believe it! It is a short wheelbase model though. The S65 AMG has also been released too. ... Read More
Hi All, Since when does variety of engines and wheelbases apply to the prestige argument? As someone rightly pointed out, that would mean a Ford Focus is more prestigious than a Rolls Royce. Lexus has a few models that are considered Luxury cars, LS, SC, GS..I'd call the ES an entry level Lux sedan..I think prestige is formed by high quality, driving experience, customer service, and of course Public Perception. ... Read More
Good points. This Japanese onslaught happened 20+ years ago with regular cars and Detroit survived, barely. The British as a whole had their entire automotive industry collaspe and wind up in German (VW, BMW) or American (Ford) hands. Think about it, Jaguar, Rolls-Royce, Bentley, and Aston-Martin....some of the most prestigious names in the history of the automobile are no longer British owned. The difference is that Germany is the driving automotive ... Read More
I had been meaning to ask you what you thought of the facelifted 2005 XK cars? I really like what they've done to the lower body. I've seen a coupe in White and a convertible XKR this very rick looking Blue, absolutely stunning. No arguement about the interior, asthetically it was all Jaguar. The Germans then were just leather appointed board rooms in which to conduct the "business" of driving. I ... Read More
I fully expect the next gen LS will be a 2007 model and will be available in Oct 2006 - at the latest. My sales guy told me I'm on the perfect 3 year plan right now for always getting the latest significant changes. But Lexus is getting aggressive in their roll-out plans for this new LFS design and I think they just want to get it over with for the ... Read More
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