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1997 Audi A6 Consumer Discussions
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Audi A6 Maintenance and Repair
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Starting probelms
I have a 1997 Audi A6 which won't start. The problem is that when you turn the key in the ignition all the lights come on and then go out as usual but the engine doesn't turn or starter motor make any sounds. It's as if the ignition has been disconnected from the engine. Also the remote central locking has stopped working. Has anyone come across this problem before??
Audi A6
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Re: 2000 A6 V8 4.2L [saxon2nsx]
I had one of these -- I'll give you some input: 1. What should I look out for that is specific to this model/year/engine? Nothing that I know of -- the 4.2 is thirsty, but the thing is powerful and smooth and sounds great. I had brake disk issues with mine which Audi fixed by replacing the entire brake system -- otherwise it only has a 5speed auto which TODAY would ... Read More
Audi A6 Maintenance and Repair
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transmission?
I was happily driving my 1997 audi A6 quattro SW when at a stoplight, without any warning the car didn't engage the transmission anymore, the engine runs fine, the shift goes in all positions but it doesn't engage..... Is it the transmission? I had a mechanic over the phone tell me it's a 3000 USD job to replace the transmission, too much definitely for a car with 100K but I was ... Read More
Audi A6
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Re: Next A6 Generation/ Facelift? [cred]
The previous gen, of the A6, had a production run from 1997 through 2004 (8 years.) We are now into year 4 for the current A6. I had hoped for a freshening (got it.) I had hoped for some increases in content/options/features (got that, too.) I assumed the 3.2 would be goosed, turbo charged, replaced (er, re-engineered) to get more HP and torque (apparently we don't get that -- yet) and ... Read More
Audi A6 Maintenance and Repair
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Resetting Radio w/o Code
I own a 1997 A6 quattro with 115k miles. It's been sitting in my garage since last April and the battery has died. I can install the new battery but the radio will be in SAFE mode. I don't have the radio car with the code. Is there any way to reset the radio without going back to a dealer? There is no Audi dealer anywhere near Poughkeepsie. Last time I ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: The other sports sedan class [zgreatlife]
The only more or less official data is 265HP. A 10HP boost. The torque does not rise. There have been several less official statements (perhaps just rumors) that there will be a more powerful V6. The 3.2, with the typical conservative Audi bi-turbo treatment would easily match the engine that is in the 335 and 535. If Audi does not rise to the challenge, I would argue they will HAVE to ... Read More
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Re: Is there a difference? [zgreatlife]
WOW. I had the following (not a complete list): 1995 S6 1997 A8 1999 A6 2.8 2000 A6 4.2 comfort 2001 A6 4.2 sport 2003 allroad 2.7T 2005 A6 3.2 with 18" wheels and 245 x 40 x 18" tires At the same time, my wife had multiple A4's, three TT's and one BMW X3 3.0. The A6 is the quietest of the bunch (including the A8), it also is both ... Read More
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Re: Car People [pat]
Selling England by the Pound -- Genesis. You win the cupie doll, Pat! Here in Cincinnati, the new generation of BMW's with that spanky new "35" twin turbo engine are rolling out -- at this point, the 335 sedan and coupes are RWD, but already the 328 is offered with AWD and next year the X drive option will be added for about $1900. It promises to be a brisk seller. ... Read More
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"The Itch. . ."
Back in the days when smoking (in a car) was even done, a friend of mine -- a smoker -- would kid me and say "Mark gets a new car every time the ash tray gets full." Since I am not a smoker, I only related to this comment in a symbolic way. My friend, now not a smoker (and I never permitted him to smoke in my cars in any ... Read More
Audi A6
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Re: 2006 vs 2007 [dan339g]
I believe the power column was avail elsewhere. I wonder what they were thinking since my 1997 A8 had this, as did my 2000 and 2001 A6's. Save a little money perhaps? Yet, I hardly miss it -- I rarely changed the setting even when it was power assisted. I am at least pleased that my manual wheel can be both tilted and telescoped and am nearly shocked when I note ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Rich folks. . .
. . .rich folks vs really rich folks. One group of rich folks has good income, some wealth and decent cash flow, they are usually under 40. They drive the Audi, BMW and Mercedes high five and low six figure cars, if they are the more gregarious types (not that there is anything wrong with that.) The really rich folks seem to drive nice, but oddly inexpensive or older versions of ... Read More
Audi A6
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The Link Between Engine Sludge and Oil Change Intervals
Appropos of our recent discourse on the merits of oil change interval frequencies, I thought that the article below might prove illuminating as regards Audi and Volkswagen engines, and other makes as well. In light of the observations detailed in this article, the wisdom of 10,000 mile oil change intervals continues to evade me. This is particularly true as regards the majority of the so-called "synthetic oils" like Castrol, which in ... Read More
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8,500 miles
Issues: #1 four starter button replacements #2 DSP won't retain settings #3 OE 18" A/S tires are inadequate to the job -- tires need to be UHP A/S's perhaps from Continental or Yokohama. After, in order since 1997, an A8, A6 2.8, A6 4.2, A6 4.2 sport, allroad 2.7T 6spd and now an A6 3.2, I can say this is NOT the most powerful of the lot but it is much ... Read More
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6,000 miles
My 2005 A6 3.2 has now passed 6,000 miles. It is getting better all the time in every way I can imagine to share with you. It has two "issues": #1 I make a lease payment and I get a new Advanced Key "start engine" switch (I am on switch #4). The dealer's A6 "expert" (service, not sales expert) says he believes a "fix" is in the works (a new switch ... Read More
Audi A6 Wagons
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Re: Hope I got a good deal [audipayton]
Hi, I also just brought a 1997 Audi A6 Quattro at $6600. But it have 136000 miles on it.All equipment is working fine, but need your professional advices on some issues...... 1) Is the A6 running on timing belt or chains? 2) Where can I replace the transmission fluid? 3) I brought an uncut key from E-bay, where to get the key duplicated? 4) my RPM read 3500rpm at 65MPH, is ... Read More
Audi A6 Maintenance and Repair
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Re: Your Dealer May Be Wrong [jodar]
Brake rotors have been practically THE ONLY issue I have ever had with our 28 Audis since 1977. My 2000+2001 A6 4.2's combined had the rotors replaced 9 times (free). My 2003 allroad was turned in with 46,000 miles on it and original everything (insofar as the brakes were concerned.) My 2005 A6, at 2,000 miles has the best brakes of any Audi I have ever had and may have the ... Read More
Audi A6
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Two answers to two questions
The general acceleration of the new A6 is decent -- if not awe inspiring. The allroad was (it still is, it just isn't mine anymore) much more powerful from a dead stop (remember 6 speed manual, turbo engine). The allroad was very quick, the A6 is not a dog, but it is "less urgent." The engine sounds muted but it makes a nicer, more refined sound than the 2.7T (way better ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: Mark A6 3.2 Tip - incoming . . [rayainsw]
In any current car from any of the LPS companies (BMW ONLY excluded) the only choice is an auto. I fully expect some "tip" lag from the Audi. I also expected it from the Infiniti. This is different from saying I "like it" or I "want it" -- I do know how to somewhat to mostly mitigate it. I didn't want a BMW 5 series x or non-x. The US transmissions ... Read More
Audi A6
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re: I drove the M35x [jeqq]
I am not anti-Audi, or anti-Audi's new A6. I am disappointed with Audis go to market strategy insofar as it apparently affected me with respect to the "value proposition" or TOC (total ownership cost -- and based on the Business Week article I was interviewed for, NOT alone in this regard). Indeed despite my newfound affection for the Infiniti M35X, I would have paid [a little bit] more for the Audi ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: Anyone have April sales figures? Update +Audi [jrock65]
My Audi dealer has a fully tricked out A6 (BLACK) on their showroom floor -- front and rear spoiler, ground effects, tinted windows, special wheels, tail pipe extentions and fuzzy dice (oops, scratch the dice). I run hot and cold on it -- it looks striking at first, then it looks just a teeny weeny bit like a Pontiac Grand Am circa 1997 (plastic plastic everywhere and not a drop to ... Read More
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Re: audirules [audirules]
My dealership sells about 50 cars per month -- they are an exclusive Audi only dealership. There are two in Cincinnati, both stand alones. I do not know how the other dealership is doing. The Dayton Ohio dealership (1) sells 10 Audis a month. The dealer that I have been buying from through my current 2 Audis (both 2003's) claims to have 30 A6's on hand and more in port and ... Read More
Audi A6 Maintenance and Repair
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Re: Reply to Audio Woes [pat54]
Hello, I have a 1997 Audi A6 quatro, 105,00 miles. Honestly just recently has this car begun to cost me $$ is repairs. I too have a noise in the front end. Took it to my dealer, ( only place it has been serviced) & had the service manager do a test ride with me. Here is the quote for repairs, 3 of the 4 wheels are out of round & ... Read More
Audi A6
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Re: A6 3.2 vs M35x [richcream]
I believe it [the Infiniti M35x] is 6.6 to 60mph. And, I believe TECHNICALLY, the Audi is 7.1 to 100kph. A nit? Perhaps. For the life of me, I can't figure out why you would let your outgoing SLine A6 2.7T with a 5spd tip, offer up 6.4 seconds and replace the car with one that comes in at 7.1 seconds and, generally speaking, costs a bit more, comparably equipped. Moreover, ... Read More
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Re: New A6 3.2l Acceleration Concerns [luckylindy]
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was: 1997 A8 5spd NON tip but "adaptive" auto 1999 A6 5spd tiptronic 2000 A6 4.2 5spd tiptronic 2001 A6 4.2sport 5sped tiptronic -- all had EXACTLY the tip lag or combination transmission+drive by wire lag symptoms. On the other hand none of the other two dozen Audis that we have had since our first one in 1977 that ... Read More
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Re: My thoughts.... [jgaines]
Tiptronic Lag. This condition, called tip-lag, has been discussed and discussed to death, here and elsewhere -- it has been a topic in the Quattro Quarterly, a publication of the Audi Car Club of NA. FWIW, this condition is not an Audi-only condition. Scant better that makes me feel. Hence I am now off the fence again and thinking I just cannot take another auto transmission (my 1997 A8, ... Read More
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The more posters the merrier. . .
. . dissent is wecome, needed in fact. However, it is difficult for me to imagine that one who has not had the experiences or may not ever consider a brand for whatever reason can be lent much credence. I have read, for example, plenty on the new RL -- most of it good. I have test driven the TL, and I liked everything about it, except torque steer. The ... Read More
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Re: Should I buy one? [triumphbobk]
Run away from this scenario. The 2.7T is a great performing engine -- the 2001 may have some parts issues that, although probably able to be CPO'd to 100K or 2 years, still makes a newer car less money. The brake rotors on the 2001's are notorius for warping. The 2.7T engine will need a serpentine belt replacement by 60K miles (this is a four figure job). Around 60K miles, maintenance ... Read More
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Re: [sapparo] Tough time? [markcincinnati] [bmwccc] [markcincinnati] [jeqq
Since 1977 -- my first Audi lease -- probably about 12 of the 27 Audis we have had were "early outed" with assistance from Audi Financial (known as V-Crest -- or VW Financial or VW Credit for several years before Audi Financial became a sep entity). My wife early outed from a 2000 TT (24 month lease, and they wiped the slate clean after 7 months so she could get a ... Read More
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Get yer red hot A6's -- buy one, get one free!
The inventory levels of A6's -- including the sweet Slines (if you can take an automatic) -- are fairly high right now. I see, in my crystal ball, deep unhealable discounts coming within 60 days -- you'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll be amazed! Come one come all -- the discounts are coming, the discounts are coming. And, yes, there are discounts every year -- but this year is special. Since 1997 ... Read More
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Re: auditor [auditor #222]
I hate to give half-baked answers, so I'll try to give you enough information to make an educated decision. My 1997 A8 had the standard suspension, I ordered the S8 suspension kit and had the Audi dealer put it on for me (lower springs, swaybars, struts, lower profile and wider tires). Big diff in handling, little diff in ride quality. Bought a 2000 A6 4.2 w/standard suspension but 17" wheel/tire option. ... Read More
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Comparisons. . .
. . .I personally don't mind the comparison talk on this thread -- specifically since our fellow contributor lexusguy continues to take the high-road and is attempting to appeal to our left-brain side. As an admitted left-brain person, I also believe that most of us, regardless of our brain orientation, buy "at the moment in time of the purchase" based on a right brain "push." Having said this, I read somewhere ... Read More
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By the same token. . .
. . .I suspect that fans of Audi will not be influenced by the reliability scores of other brands. We all, I presume, want our cars to be more reliable. I hope it is possible for Audi to improve reliability and not lose drivabiliy. However, if they become as reliable as a Lexus apparently is, and simultaneously lose their "fun to drive factor" -- I would think there would be a ... Read More
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Leased almost every one. . .(paid cash for one, a used 1987 5000 TQ. . .)
Of the cars since 1977 we have had, we leased the majority of them -- longest term, as I recall, 36 months, shortest 12 months (I leased a 1999 A6 for 12 months when I was coming upon 50,000 miles on my 1997 A8 while I was waiting for my 2000 A6 4.2 to arrive). My last Audi I leased for 30 months, the current one 36 months since I was ... Read More
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Brakes.
I don’t blame you for not searching this town hall for the prose on this very subject. The 2000 and 2001 A6 4.2’s that I owned had 9 sets of rotors (additive, not each) and some number fewer of brake pads. I kept the two cars for a combined mileage of around 55 to 60K miles. The final set of 4 rotors and pads on the 2001 were, apparently “perfect.” I ... Read More
Audi A6 Wagons
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Hope I got a good deal
Just signed a contract with a private seller in my area for a fully loaded 1997 A6 Avant Quattro for $7,500. Car has 101K miles, was well maintained by the dealer exclusively, had ALL the recommended services, including the new timing chain, serpentine belt, tensioner, thermostat, H2O pump, etc., new tires, new struts/shocks, new brakes and regular oil changes [he used dealer supplied non-syn oil]. No other major service was needed ... Read More
Audi A6
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A6 Review On Found Mercedes Board
Audi A6 & Mercedes E-class, comparison test I should be in bed as I write this. Being a male car enthusiast, only 2 things are likely to prevent me from doing so. One is female. The other is a rather good car. And I have just returned from a 250 mile one-night trip in one. The other day I took my first real drive in a W210 E-class, a 2000 E240 ... Read More
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Mod issues
I have leased virtually all of the Audis I have ever "owned" -- I paid cash for a 1987 500 CS turbo quattro. I have chipped only 1 of the Audis I leased -- the dealer did it for me. Some dealers are offering chipped and otherwise modified cars as "dealer/performance" options. My dealer will, from time to time, put ground effects, aftermarket wheels, tires, etc. on cars and mark them ... Read More
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Manual transmissions in Audi's RIP
Here is what I think is happening: 1. the TT will have an automatic in it in the 2003 model year, I heard if you got the 180HP model that it will "soon" only come in auto 2. the base A6 has lost the manual, the 4.2 never had it, ditto S6, and most of the 2.7T's by far have been autos (ditto the allroad) 3. on the dealer's lot, about ... Read More
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Torque peak
The 2.7T equipped A6 is quicker (not faster) than the 4.2 A6. The torque, while less on the 2.7T comes on "immediately" which in the quickness world, is all the difference in the world. In fact, the Audi literature I have says that the 2.7T is quicker than the S6 -- and this is Audi's own literature -- true it is .1 and it is between the manual 2.7T and the ... Read More
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A friend of mine bought the BMW. . .and On*star
After what I thought was a completely objective (ha!) series of visits to European car dealers all involving test drives,my friend had pretty much decided on an Audi. A few weeks later when I next saw him he said come see my new car -- another Audi convert I thought to myself. Lo and behold a new metallic black BMW (330, I think -- RWD). The car is very nice -- ... Read More
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Audi/VW Platforms
Jared, here's a complete list of Audi platforms from Audi AG. The W8 does ride on a DIFFERENT larger platform than other Passats, the same one used for the A6. I'd forgotten about this until I got a recent issue of Auto Week, noticed the car looked bigger and longer. I discounted it until I looked up this table again, and apparently, it is bigger and longer. The same photo's are ... Read More
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Sway bars 101
Anti-sway bars are engineered to reduce "body roll." They keep your vehicle flatter in the turns by transferring the pressure exerted on the outside wheels and applying opposite pressure on the inside wheels. In this way weight is more evenly applied to all four wheels, helping the vehicle stay more level with the road. Your car will corner "flatter" -- sometimes this is discussed using the term "body lean" (as in ... Read More
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Re: advice on Sway Bar and Springs for - chicago27t1
From the Audi Web site - www.audiusa.com -- I made a similar modification on a 1997 A8 that I owned (and also switched tires, which for Chicago would mean either a summer and a winter tire/wheel combo -- or, my current fave Yokohama AVS db's which are Ultra High Perf All seasons). I loved the improvements and found nothing to complain about re ride. I later added front and rear sway ... Read More
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Audiphiles- 17" wheels? by rambo7 Response
I had a 1997 A8, purchased new with the 17" option. Tires were 225 x 55 x 17 Goodyear GSD. At 18,000+ miles, the treadwear indicators started poking through -- at that exact moment in time no GSD tire (which other than the miles, I liked) was available.) New A8's started coming in with Goodyear LS tires (same size); they were about $100/each -- so I bought four of them. Mistake ... Read More
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Tire size and other things jk
JK Ralph, at Northland Audi in Cincinnati, told me the 2002 A6 2.7T has a great deal of the look of a 2001 A6 4.2 -- flared front fenders, below the grill spoiler/air intake, etc. Now this tells me that it would be possible for the tire size to be 255 x 40 x 17. But, based on past experience with Audi's, they will probably have a somewhat smaller tire -- ... Read More
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jkendall's new 2002 A6 2.7T
Congratulations -- it sounds like you will have a great car -- I would have added the Nav pkg personally, but other than that -- sounds great. Amulet red is a knockout -- currently it is avail on the TT. I think the interior will be a little closer to "carmel" or ecru -- in that it will have a hint more "natural" color than the melange that I have (which ... Read More
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AWD and ESP a request for a fun and factual debate to continue!
I still have no quarrel with your beliefs and your right to choose any vehicle that you want and are willing to vote for -- financially. Any time there is a "relatively new" not widely "included in the price" technology there will be some ramp up time until the technology makes it into the mainstream. And this means that I wish the technology were mandatory. I wouldn't force you to purchase ... Read More
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I must admit my 2000 A6 was leased through a bank -- term 27 months. I bailed out of the car @ 17 months and 23,000 miles. I got Audi of America to make the first payment on the 2001 A6 (on an AFS 30 month lease, no money down and no sec dep). I walked out of the dealer with the new car with 29 payments to go.) I still ... Read More
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S8 suspension upgrade II
The ride with the S8 suspension and new Pirelli PZero tires size 245 X 50 X17 actually improved. The squirm in the butt went away and the sometimes floaty nature of the Comfort Suspension + the Comfort Seats (i.e., non-sport seats) was all but vanquished. I also put a "high performance" air filter on this 1997 A8 and truth be told, the only real difference I could tell there was the ... Read More
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Warranty
I have been sniffing around, trying to find out the anecdotal reliability of some of my friends and associates cars. Saab: my friend loved the car (an upper range turbo), kept it 8 years and had many trips to the dealer, most of them paid for by Saab -- and while he loved the car he traded it on a Volvo (V70): and kept this 3 years, sold it to his ... Read More
Audi A6 Wagons
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97 Audi a6 Wagon with 19k miles...Good Deal?
I am looking at a 1997 a6 wagon, fully loaded with leather, roof, winter package, cd, 3rd seat, etc. The dealer is asking $24k and will extend the warranty to 12-01. Does this sound like a good deal? Thanks, Judy
Audi A6
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re: 867 (16" vs. 17" Wheels on the 2.7T) by rwish
Rwish: I leased a new 1997 A8 with the 17" wheel/tire option -- put Pirelli PZeros @ 245 45 17 on the car -- then called Joe Hoppen and he sent an S8 suspension to Northland Audi here in Cincinnati. The components were springs, struts and sway bars -- the cost was about $2500. The installation was in two steps -- one day to do the work and an all wheel ... Read More
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Audi Problems -- Eye of the Beholder
While not trouble free entirely, my wife and I have had 24 Audi's between us since 1978 -- our only "lemon" was a 1979 Audi Silver Fox, which seemed to consume a quart of oil every 150 miles or so. The brakes on my 1997 A8 (the rotors that is) and the front rotors on my 2000 A6 4.2 had to be replaced a couple of times before they got a ... Read More
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ESP question & a response to gs4rx3 & 4.2's in general
No, ESP cannot be installed on a car that does not have it "from the factory" -- or better said, it is not available to be installed on a car without it from the factory -- Audi did offer a retrofit on TT's -- but financially they had to take it in the shorts. It is complicated, so they say, to retrofit this technology and since it is only $500 MSRP(from ... Read More
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A6 4.2 Responses
I started ordering Audi cars back when they were still called 4000's, 5000's then 80's, 90's 100's and 200's -- then of course follwed by the "A" cars. Audi cars ordered from a dealer -- in my experience -- will take 4 to 5 months to get from the day you order (and this appears to be based on the "build date vs. order date" difference.) Sometimes the difference between one ... Read More
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Which would you buy: Audi, BMW, or Lexus?
I'm considering purchase of a used car, and I'm interested in input from Audi owners. I'm considering 1998 cars because I don't like buying new cars considering dealer hassles and depreciation. There are lots of 98s coming off lease now. My wants: *"Near Luxury" (i.e. nice car for driving with friends and business clients) *Reliability *Decent fuel efficiency *Safety *Roomy enough back seat to seat two comfortably Since my query on ... Read More
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rwish...wheel size. . .17" = harsh ride
Rwish: My 1997 A8 came with 17" wheels and 55 series tires, I "plus zero'd" them to 50 series tires and even replaced the stock US A8 suspension with the German "S8" sport suspension -- what little harshness I noticed was minimal (a stiffer ride, better performance, yes -- hardly harsh). Both of my A6 4.2's (one with sport suspension and one with standard suspension) came with 255 x 40 x ... Read More
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V8 doesn't Back Off
I have had one A8 (V8) and two A6 4.2's (V8). I have EXTENSIVELY driven several S4's (Turbo V6, same as 2.7T A6, and my wife has a 2001 TT 225hp coupe). I can induce some turbo lag in the TT, by "improper" gear selection, I had no problem in the S4's (stick shift). My A6 4.2's both had or have 5 speed Tiptronics, my A8 (1997) had a five speed ... Read More
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Tires
I have had 24 Audis since 1978 -- only 1 of them came with good tires (personal opinion). Audi is not alone in "undertiring" their cars. I have certainly never replaced the tires when new, but when I replace the tires, I generally upgrade with what is called "plus 0" sizing. For example, if the car comes with 205 x 55 x 16 tires, 225 x 50 x 16's will work ... Read More
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