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2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor Long Term Road Test

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Halloween Caption Contest Winner

October 31, 2011


Thanks to mrryte for the winning Halloween caption.

Here are the others that gave us the chills:

Guy in the middle is having a ball. (blueprint1)
Who says American cars don't have souls? (mrryte)
The ghosts of LT past come back to haunt IL. (blueprint1)
Will the ghouls fit? (blueprint1)
How are the Suicide Doors Working for You? (noburgers)
The Sixth Gear (ergsum)
Which side is the fuel filler door on? (noburgers)
The Grim Raptor (mrryte)
The grateful dead. (kain77)
Which way to the nearest ghast station? (mrryte)
Found On Road un-Dead (mrryte)
Caranormal Activity (ergsum)
Ghouls Just Want To Have Fun (ergsum)
He did it! He did it! He did it! (zoomzoomn)
The Ford Raptor now comes with EctoBoost. (ergsum)
Bumper sticker reads: "My Other Vehicle is a MaliBOO!" (ergsum)

What was your favorite?

To the winner:
You can select one of these three prizes.

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Halloween Caption Contest

October 28, 2011


I wouldn't let Halloween go by without a caption contest. These ghosts are hitching a ride in our former long-term Ford F-150 SVT Raptor. Photo provided by Dan Edmunds.

What's your caption?

We'll post our favorite on Monday, Halloween. So sharpen your typing fingers, you have all weekend to think up the winning caption.

Donna DeRosa, Managing Editor

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2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor: Gone But Not Forgotten

September 26, 2011


We're still missing the Raptor around here -- me worse than anybody. But today I saw this flat black SuperCrew Raptor cruising down the freeway looking utterly bad ass with black aftermarket wheels. It was like somebody read my mind.

More images after the jump.

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2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor: I, Too, Miss the Raptor

September 22, 2011


Like M. Schmidt, I too miss our dearly departed 2010 Ford SVT Raptor.

Maybe we can replace it with this.

I spotted this bad boy, property of the US Navy, at the 2011 X-Games over the summer.

It's called M-ATV, a Special Forces All Terrain Vehicle with USN markings. This vehicle is used by US Naval Special Warfare Command (NSW) by our top Special Operations sailors.

If you're in the Teams and have actually driven this thing, let me know and I'll post your driving impressions (it's supposed to drive like a dump truck.)

More photos and a brief spec sheet on the jump.

Albert Austria, Senior VE Engineer

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2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor: I Miss the Raptor

September 16, 2011

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2010 Ford Raptor: Goodbye and Hello!

August 31, 2011


I'm sad to see our Raptor go. I miss having an SUV in the fleet. But at the same time it creates excitement as to what we'll get next. I've always been a fan of the Defender, but it doesn't look like a possibility.

I look at the site bringatrailer.com almost every day. It's basically car porn. It's filled with the bizarre and cool. I find reading the site is similar to being stuck in a multi-hour Wikipedia knowledge quest. By the time you're done, you have 30 tabs open and can't remember where you started. But recently I did see something that grabbed my attention...

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2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor: Cashing out our Black Chip

August 25, 2011

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We sold the Ford F-150 Raptor last night after only 12 days -- not the two months as dwengier77 predicted. We priced the car aggressively, but knew we would probably have to drop the price during negotiations. Buyers aren't afraid to offer thousands less than the asking price.

After the ad was listed on AutoTrader for $39,900, I got quite a few calls right off the bat. The first people to call were the car flippers. They asked a few basic questions like "Has it ever been in an accident?" and then proceed to make a lowball offer, sight unseen. "I'll give you $36,000 cash!" they'd say, as if we might be desperate to jump at the mere mention of cash. I can't really say if they are real buyers or not, because I never got far with them. These are "take it or leave it" type offers. A real buyer asks you questions like "Has it ever gone off-road? Who drove the car? Has it given you any problems?"

After a few more inquiries I realized that the real Raptor buyers were very savvy. They knew a lot about the car and were more concerned about the high mileage, how it was driven and the price. I was upfront with everyone and let them know it had been driven by multiple people and it went off road a few times. This did scare off one buyer who compared our Raptor to a "rental car," since so many people had driven it.

I received advice from the least likely of sources, a buyer who had offered $35,000 and then changed his mind because, according to him, the more he heard about this car, the less he wanted it. "These aren't regular F-150s that you put a bunch of miles on," he said. "These are toys that you drive on the weekend. You're going to have a hard time selling it with these miles and for this price. If I were you, I would list it at $37,900 and hold firm on that price."

He told me that there were a number of Raptors out there with significantly less miles and being offered at a similar price. These trucks were in other states, but he (and presumably other Raptor buyers) was willing to get the car shipped.

He made a convincing case for dropping the price. I was already going to drop it to $38,900 after a week, but I the more I thought about it the more I realized that it wasn't going to be a significant enough drop. Although our price was competitive with the other Raptors on AutoTrader, our mileage was higher. The next morning, I dropped the price to $37,900 and added "price firm" to the description.

We eventually sold the car to a woman who worked for a casino in Southern California. She was buying the Raptor for her son who was about to graduate from high school. After some discussion, we made a deal at $37,000.

At this point I handed things off to my colleague, Phil Reed. He lives closer to the woman so it was more convenient for her to meet him at his home rather than mine. Here is his account of how the sale was closed:

"The woman showed up after dark with her son and two other guys. One of them could have been a pro football player with a hand so big it was like trying to shake with a bowling ball. I gave them the keys and when I got out to the truck they were under the hood with flashlights. 'Why are the fender bolts turned?' one of them demanded. This was another way of saying that body work had been done on the truck following an accident. So I said, 'I don't know what you're looking at, but this truck has never been in an accident and wasn't taken to a body shop.' Then the woman said, 'Why is the bed all scratched?' There was no way to answer this than to say, 'Because it's a truck.'

"The big guy was the designated driver and he didn't hesitate to tap into the power. If you're considering buying a used car, it's important to verify the condition. But I think you should wait until you own it to start chirping the tires. I was getting a little tired of all this but I was pretty sure the woman had a check in her purse and we were close to closing this deal. So I let it go. Sure enough, they all decided the truck was a good buy and she turned over the cashier's check for $37,000."

Here are the final numbers:
MSRP: $43,300
We paid: $39,992 ($44,689 after tax, title and license fees)
Current TMV: $37,411
Carmax offer: $35,000
Sold for: $37,000

Ron Montoya and Phil Reed @ 29,573 miles

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2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor: Room for Improvement

August 12, 2011

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I just got back from taking our Ford F-150 Raptor to Carmax and I was a little disappointed by the appraisal. The service was great and I was in and out of there in about 30 minutes, but I was expecting a "strong money," offer like the recently departed Volkswagen GTI.

Carmax offered us $35,000. Congratulations to "theace415" for a spot on prediction. I was expecting $36,000. Here are a few numbers to put things in perspective:

MSRP at the time: $43,300
We paid: $39,992 (plus tax and title)
Trade in TMV: $35,103
Carmax offer: $35,000

Our trade in TMV was very close to the Carmax offer. But if you look at private party Raptor prices, people are asking between $36,000- $41,000, depending on the miles.

Edmunds private party TMV for the Raptor is $37,493. The boss says he's in no rush to sell the truck, so we are going to price it aggressively. After careful consideration, we have decided to list it at $39,900. We have a more desirable color and the 6.2 liter engine (an option at the time) in our favor. Before you hit that comment button, please keep in mind that this is the asking price. We always leave room for negotiation.

How much do you think it'll sell for?

Ron Montoya, Consumer Advice Associate @ 29,245 miles

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2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor: The Tour Continues

August 11, 2011


Yesterday we began saying our goodbyes to the Raptor. With those goodbyes comes a survey of the truck's condition -- evidence that maybe, just maybe, we don't destroy everything we drive, as some of you contend.

Have at look a the skidplate. Or maybe a more appropriate name would be the non-skidplate.

But wait, there's more...

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2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor: The End Is Near

August 10, 2011


I got the email on Monday. "Detail the Raptor" it read. "We're going to sell it." So yesterday the coolest truck to ever grace our fleet spent half the day getting babied.

Below is a brief survey of its condition at almost 30,000 miles.

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