Edmunds.com's TMV: The Magic Number


Picture this: You're sitting in the sales office at a dealership ready to start negotiating for the new car you want. The salesman leans back, smiles and says, "OK, make me an offer."

What do you say? Obviously you don't want to pay more than you have to. And everyone knows you should "never pay retail." But you also don't want to make your offer so low he boots you out of the office. So you take a deep breath and do what buyers have done for years — you guess.

But wait! There's a better way than either low balling or just picking a number out of the air. Before you go car shopping, check Edmunds.com's TMV®. TM — what? you might say. TMV stands for True Market Value and it is the magic number for car buyers. It is the secret combination that will unlock the keys to your next new car.

Unlike other pricing systems that are based on the dealers' "asking prices," TMV is the average price that a car sells for in your region. And it is adjusted for options, the car's color and incentives. TMV figures, posted for free on Edmunds.com, are based on the actual sales of other cars of its kind in your area. The figure is then adjusted further for accuracy using sophisticated calculations designed by mathematicians at Edmunds.com.

But you don't need to know all that. All you need to know is that TMV will give you the confidence to go eyeball to eyeball with the salesman. While the invoice price and the sticker price define the low and high end of the pricing scale, the TMV will narrow it down to a specific, realistic amount to use when negotiating for a car.

TMV pricing is particularly useful because all cars sell at different price points. Hot cars will sell at sticker price while other models will sell at invoice (and below invoice once incentives are deducted). TMV shows you, at a glance, exactly what to pay without spending hours negotiating.

Another benefit of TMV is that it gives you peace of mind by letting you know that you paid about what other buyers have shelled out for this car. There is nothing worse than hearing from your neighbor what a great deal he got on the same car you just bought — at a much higher price. With TMV, there will be no ugly surprises and you can drive your car with the knowledge that you made a fair deal.

TMV prices can be found by going to Edmunds.com and selecting the new car you want to buy. Print out the pricing sheets and take them with you to the dealer. TMV prices are also available for used cars and for certified used cars. And don't forget that TMV is a handy way to accurately appraise your used car when you are ready to put it up for sale.

So, now that you are armed with accurate information, you know how to answer when the salesman smiles and says, "OK, make me an offer."

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By mrs_egg
on 03/23/11
7:05 PM PST

When hoping to get TMV, does it matter if I am planning to finance the car vs pay cash for the whole thing? Also, when do I factor in the trade-in value of my car. I thought I should negotiate price first and then bring up trade-in, but maybe not. If they give a better than expected price for trade-in (one dealership has looked at my car and given a number that is good based on Edmunds and KBB), can I still expect TMV?

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By andrelaplume
on 01/24/11
1:12 PM PST

Does TMV include incentives...its not clear here nor do I see incentives listing with the pricing any longer.

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By benrey23
on 08/23/11
7:01 PM PST

I am a car salesman. I appreciate Edmunds and all the information it makes available to consumers. I do wish they would verify there information such as when comparing vehicles because they get alot of options ect. wrong. That is a dicussion for another day. I look at the price selling this way. As a saleman my goal is to earn your business today and in the future. I hope you feel comfortable in sending your friends and family my way. That is how a good salesman is successful. The problem I have with Edmunds is they believe you should never pay MSRP. Well first off if a vehicle has alot of inventory the manufacturer will have rebates so what is wrong if the set price is sticker but the consumer gets rebate off that price. I get paid 25% of front end gross (difference between selling price and invoice price plus dealer holdback). If that equates to $2000 (very seldon is it $2000) then I make $500 commission. Most consumers do a 60 month loan so my commission is a whopping $8.00 a month. What are you getting for $8 as a month. A committed salesman that you can rely on. Someone other than a service advisor to vent to. Someone that will pick your car up and drop it off if need be. Someone that spent hours in product training to be able to help assist you. If a vehicle has no rebates then it is selling well. Why should we reduce the price from MSRP. By doing so we are reducing the value. Nothing wrong with paying sticker on a vehicle that sells well and is hard to keep stock of. I will say the blame for that goes to the usually bigger dealers who have the means to sell many of there new vehicles at close to invoice. In the end all they do is Wal-Mart the smaller dealers. One day I would love for my hardwork in customer service to pay off and a customer say to me. I love the Cruze and you have been good to me. I trust you will continue to be good to me so I have no problem spending an extra $8 month and paying sticker for a car that is truly worth the value of MSRP since MSRP includes the salesman, and dealership.

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