2009 Porsche 911 Consumer Discussions

Porsche 911

• looking to buy a porsche

  Written by: atlantajuice on May 9, 2010 4:44:11 PM

  I am seeking a 2009 911 S Cab with less than 8000 miles. White or black. please let me know if you know where i can find this car. Thanks

Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet Full Test

• Re: 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cab vs Previous Model [baldegl]

  Written by: paulgt3 on Mar 16, 2011 5:40:50 PM

  The Porsche 2009 PDK is THE best 911 I have had. I have owned it now for 2 years. I have come out of a 97 Twin turbo, then a 996 GT3, Then lastly a 997.1 GT3. I was GOING to buy a 2008 GT3RS. It only had AC. I went on a whim to drive the 911 Carrera S PDK. I was BLOWN away. Its faster than any GT1 motor ... Read More

Porsche 911 Lease Questions

• Re: help with porsche lease [surgeon1]

  Written by: Car_man on Oct 26, 2010 3:56:25 AM

  Hi surgeon1. Porsche Financial Services definitely isn't leasing 2009 911s as new vehicles any longer. You can still lease a new 2010 model though. PFS' October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2010 911 C4 Cabriolet with 10,000 miles per year are .00167 and 65%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00167 and 53%. Car_man Host Prices ... Read More

Porsche 911 Coupe or Convertible - can you help me decide!

• 911 Coupe or Convertible - can you help me decide!

  Written by: chrisnick on Jul 29, 2010 10:11:51 AM

  I am about to finally buy a porsche and have it down to a 2009 911 4S. What remains is a coupe or convertible and I am really struggling with this decision. The convertibles look fun and I have test drove one and really enjoyed it. My hesitancy is the couple is a prettier looking car (in my view) and is more conservative. I do not want folks to think I ... Read More

Porsche 911

• re scary model question

  Written by: chiba on Mar 10, 2010 6:37:48 AM

  i think all porsche owners have strong views of the individual series that were produced under the 911 banner (997, 996, 992, 964, etc). there are some specific issues with the 996 series that includes 2001 911's that potential owners should be aware of. good starting point is to order up the back issue of Excellence Magazine (issue #176) for Sept.2009 (i think you can order it online). they did a ... Read More

Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo

• Obsolete Thread

  Written by: bigmclargehuge on Dec 22, 2009 9:03:12 AM

  And I'll go ahead and repeat that I think this thread is obsolete since we're on 2010 Nissan GT-R and 2010 Porsche 911 Turbo currently in production. Any future comparisons have nothing to do with the 2009 GT-R or 2008 Turbo, since changes were made to each, and they are different beasts now.

Porsche 911 Lease Questions

• Re: Porsche 911 dealer cost [anou]

  Written by: anou on Dec 7, 2009 8:33:48 PM

  My local Porsche dealer just contacted me, saying Porsche gave the dealers additional $1000 marketing support. If this were true, it means the marketing support for 2009 is now $9k.

• Re: Porsche 911 dealer cost [anou]

  Written by: blackberryxyz on Dec 6, 2009 9:19:35 PM

  That's a good deal and accurate in the fact that there are not any 2009's left in California. I leased a 2009 Carrera 2 demo with PDK, memory seats and an MSRP of 86k and change. The leased was based off price of 71k and change with 7,500 drive off and 800 a month. I'm happy. You were lucky to find one that they would still deal on.

• Re: Porsche 911 dealer cost [anou]

  Written by: anou on Dec 5, 2009 5:13:11 PM

  Thanks everyone for your help. I was able to purchase a 2009 911 coupe near invoice minus marketing support. The MSRP on the car is $85,620 and I paid $69k (before tax & license). According to Edmunds.com, the invoice on the car is $77,151. But with $8k of marketing support, I was able to finish the deal. The cool thing is that according to porsche.com, there are only three new cars ... Read More

• Re: End of Year Residuals and Money Factors [gre09]

  Written by: Car_man on Nov 24, 2009 2:46:54 AM

  Hey gre09. Yes, Porsche's special buy rate lease money factor is indeed still .00146 on 2009 models. Porsche Financial Services' residual values for the 911 vary by trim level. For instance, its 36-month, 10,000 mile per year resid for an '09 911 Coupe is 56% and the resid for the '09 911 Cab is 54%. I would be happy to give you an idea of what the current residual value is ... Read More

• 911 4SCabriolet with PDK, nav, sports chrono, total MSRP was $124K

  Written by: smirza2000 on Oct 30, 2009 10:46:23 AM

  All, I am new to the Porsche, didn't realize/reaseacrh enough. I shlould have ound this board before leasing my 2009 POrshe. I just wanted to get feedback. I paid 5K total clsing costs and my payment is $1857/=. I was offered a $1927 lease for a 2009 PDK Carrera S (not 4S or cabriolet). So when I got a 2009 4S cabrioloet with PDK (yr 2009), I though 1857 with 5K ... Read More

Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet Full Test

• Re: 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cab vs Previous Model [cardiohex]

  Written by: baldegl on Oct 21, 2009 12:47:27 PM

  For those of us in an urban environment (Chicago) the pdk is a great option. I had a BMW M3 with smg and there is no comparison. I also drove the S with pdk at the Porsche school in Birmingham and found it to be absolutly amazing on the track. It does shifts at a speed and of a dimension (7th to 3rd) that we simply cannot do. I agree the ... Read More

• Re: 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cab vs Previous Model [rdmiller4me]

  Written by: cardiohex on Oct 4, 2009 9:42:06 AM

  "For those who opted for a 2008 model with a manual transmission, you should have purchased a '09 with a manual gearbox. You would have more horsepower and better amenities." I agree wholeheartedly... I went back and forth about 08 manual(significantly discounted) vs. 09 manual... pdk was ok, but for me, I had to get a manual gearbox... more involvement, more visceral feel... what made the decision for an 09 ultimately ... Read More

• 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cab vs Previous Model

  Written by: rdmiller4me on Oct 4, 2009 7:19:41 AM

  I feel sorry for those who have discounted the 2009 PDK model for the 2008 and older units. There is no comparison. First, I recently traded in my 2006 S Cab for a 2009 PDK S Cab. No comparison. The Direct Fuel Injection has added more horsepower, but most importantly, I have seen an incredible difference in fuel efficiency. On the highway, in my '06, I used to get about 21 ... Read More

Porsche 911 Lease Questions

• 911 cab lease - is the lower LMF of .00146 still being offered?

  Written by: tb310 on Sep 28, 2009 1:00:07 AM

  Car-man - is the special lease money factor .00146 still offered in Sept? West LA dealer quote on 2009 911 cab w/ minimal options (PDK, heated seats, floor mats) LMF .0024 (if lease paid up front of $42K) or .0031 (w/ monthly payments $1250, $3K driveoff) on 3 year lease 12K miles year.. Is the lower LMF of .00146 still being offered? If dealer lists: CashSalePrice $77K , but 3 yr ... Read More

Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo

• Re: Chinks in the armor? [lemmer]

  Written by: bigmclargehuge on Sep 3, 2009 12:47:44 PM

  On a whim, decided to re-visit some old threads. Forgot about how much fun this one was. But now that both the GT-R and 911 are almost completely sold out of 2009 models and updating for 2010, I thought it would be nice to recap what happened with this competition to now. We spent a lot of time talking about speed. There seemed to be some confusion between speed and racing ... Read More

Porsche 911 Lease Questions

• Re: can you help me please [autojack11]

  Written by: Car_man on Aug 31, 2009 3:22:57 AM

  Hi autojack11. Porsche is providing a special lease money factor of .00146 through its captive finance company on all 2009 models right now. Make sure that the dealer uses that money factor to calculate your car's monthly payment. As far as its residual values go, Porsche Financial Services' resid for a 36 month lease of a 2009 911 Turbo Cab with 15,000 miles per year is 47%. PFS' 12,000 mile per ... Read More

• need feedback on latest lease

  Written by: porschecrazy on Aug 23, 2009 12:09:33 AM

  First time Porsche buyer here, Interested in getting a 2009 911 coupe. I found this lease deal on http://www.porsche.com/usa/911leaseoffer/ and its seems to be a pretty good one. Its 825$ ( 900$ tax included ). Will it go down further?

Porsche 911

• He's Back

  Written by: dweiser on Aug 19, 2009 12:14:02 PM

  Hi Everyone, I had a 2006 911 C4 Cab then a 2008 Boxster. I've been Porsche-less for a while but a 2009 911 White Coupe PDK is being delivered late this afternoon. I'm as excited over it as I was waiting for my 2006 911 C4 to arrive from Germany. This one's only coming from Hilton Head, SC. :) Don

Porsche 911 Lease Questions

• Latest 911 Lease Offer-Aug 1 2009

  Written by: blackberryxyz on Aug 1, 2009 10:13:27 AM

  My local Porsche dealer in Marin County Ca, just north of the Golden Gate Bridge is advertising a brand new 2009 911 C4 manual coupe, msrp of $86,870.00 for a 36 month lease of $980.57 plus tax and $5,500.00 down. Seems like a good deal if you are tempted to acquire a 911. Unfortunately for Porsche it seems most people, including probably myself, are concluding that their current car they own ... Read More

• Re: Targa 4s [mk2001]

  Written by: Car_man on May 5, 2009 4:03:44 AM

  Hey mk2001. Yes, the aforementioned .00146 money factor would apply to all 2009 911s. Porsche's current 36 month, 12,000 mile per year residual value for the 2009 911 Targa C4 S with a manual transmission is 51%. The residual value for an otherwise identical 48 month lease is 45%. If you were to lease with only 10,000 miles per year, this car's residuals would be 1% higher. For feedback on this ... Read More

• Re: Help with 2009 Carrera Coupe 15k mile/yr 3 yr lease [mghbolt]

  Written by: Car_man on May 5, 2009 3:39:04 AM

  Hi MGHBolt. The mileage allowance that you choose will not have any impact upon your car's money factor. Porsche's current lease program is scheduled to run through June 1st. It is difficult to say what its June program will be like at this point. Porsche Credit's current 36 month, 15,000 mile per year residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 911 C2 Coupe with a manual transmission is ... Read More

• residuals

  Written by: bosco42 on Apr 17, 2009 10:16:37 AM

  Is there an official online source that quotes the residuals I was told by 2 dealers that the residual was 55% on an 09 C2S coupe with 10K per year "Hi glbmw. Dealers that have certificates available can offer the following terms. Porsche's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 911 C2 Coupe with 10,000 miles per year are .00146 and ... Read More

• Re: Car Man Please Help [bosco42]

  Written by: Car_man on Apr 9, 2009 3:33:58 AM

  Hi bosco42. Dealers that still have certificates can offer the following terms. Porsche Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 911 C4 S Coupe with 10,000 miles per year are .00146 and 54%, respectively. Porsche is providing a cash incentive of $2,250 on this car right now. It would be easier for me to tell if you are getting a ... Read More

• Re: 911 Lease Rates Feb 2009 [glbmw]

  Written by: Car_man on Apr 9, 2009 3:29:06 AM

  Hi glbmw. Dealers that have certificates available can offer the following terms. Porsche's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 911 C2 Coupe with 10,000 miles per year are .00146 and 58%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an '09 911 C2 Coupe S are .00146 and 56%. The numbers for an '09 911 C4 Coupe are .00146 ... Read More

• Re: Residuals on a 2009 C4 cab and C2s cab [phil0sophy]

  Written by: Car_man on Apr 9, 2009 3:23:28 AM

  Hi Shawn. Dealers that have certificates available can provide you with a money factor of .00146 on both of these cars. Porsche's current 36 month, 12,000 mile per year residual value for an '09 911 C4 Cabriolet is 53%. The resid for an otherwise identical 36 month lease of an '09 911 C2 Cabriolet is 55%. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum

• Re: 911 Lease Rates Feb 2009 [madmaxz06]

  Written by: Car_man on Apr 9, 2009 3:13:41 AM

  No problem, Max. Porsche's current buy rate lease money factor for all 2009 911s is .00146, if you can find a dealer that has a certificate to use. Porsche is providing a $3,500 cash incentive on the 2009 911 Turbo and $2,000 on the 2009 911 Carerra S. These cars' residual values vary by term and mileage allowance. You never mentioned what either of these variables are, so for now I ... Read More

• Re: 911 Lease Rates March 2009 [Car_man]

  Written by: glbmw on Mar 22, 2009 1:23:06 PM

  I am getting conflicting info from different dealerships on c2 and c2s MF is .00146 by Porsche Financial the residual 10K 61% 12 k 58% or is it 12 k 56% for both cars. ALSO what is the cash back for the dealer? on c2 v. c2s and c4scab? One more question... how much discount should I get. They are quoting 7k below MSRP--- on c2 90K msrp and 6K below ... Read More

• Re: 911 Lease Rates Feb 2009 [Car_man]

  Written by: madmanmoo on Mar 18, 2009 7:59:58 AM

  Porsche is providing its dealers with a certain number of certificates that enable them to lease 911s through Porsche Finance using a special money factor of .00146. This is important to note. Porsche is running these on a first come / first serve basis. When the certificates are gone, so are the deals. That means act sooner than later. Each dealer only has a limited amount of certificates as well. There ... Read More

• Re: 911 Lease Rates Feb 2009 [madmaxz06]

  Written by: Car_man on Mar 18, 2009 3:44:22 AM

  You're very welcome, Max. I'm glad that you find it so helpful. Porsche is actually running a special lease program on the 911 right now for the first time ever (at least that I am aware of). Porsche is providing its dealers with a certain number of certificates that enable them to lease 911s through Porsche Finance using a special money factor of .00146. These certificates entitle lessees to dealer cash ... Read More

• Re: 911 Lease Rates Feb 2009 [Car_man]

  Written by: madmaxz06 on Mar 3, 2009 7:28:26 PM

  HI Car_man, Thank you for the EXCELLENT info. I'm also interested in a new 911 (2009 or left-over 2008). Can you please tell me what Porsche's March lease/buy programs are (complete with money factors and residuals for a 10,000 mile 36 month lease). THANK YOU so very much, - Max

• Re: 911 Lease Rates Feb 2009 [al_93]

  Written by: Car_man on Mar 3, 2009 4:36:06 AM

  Hi Al. Porsche introduced some amazing incentives on the 2009 911 in mid-February. This is the first time that I ever remember it offering cash and special lease money factors on this model. It just goes to show how tough times are right now. Having said this, Porsche's February lease program was only scheduled to run through March 2nd. It will likely introduce its new March lease program at some point ... Read More

Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet Full Test

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet Full Test [mkilleen]

  Written by: mach128 on Jan 13, 2009 10:00:33 AM

  Tested both, 2009 4s with PDK and 2008 4s stick, endup going with 2008 stick. Was not thrilled with PDK, steering wheel shifters did not impress either, the whole setup felt geeky, 2009 car made a strange hissing noise, went with the real car. I admit sport exhaust was a big factor. After owning it for 3 months I still LOVE the setup.

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet Full Test [KarenS]

  Written by: mkilleen on Jan 1, 2009 6:47:47 AM

  i test drove the '09 S with PDK & 08 4S with a short throw shifter. i found the 08 much more satisfying. There's an element of danger and driver involvement that has been removed with the PDK, and that danger is what brings the excitement to the driving my experience.

Porsche 911 Lease Questions

• Re: Question on an 08 Turbo cab [bneiderman]

  Written by: Car_man on Dec 29, 2008 3:46:39 AM

  Hi bneiderman. $20,000 is a substantial discount on this car, it's probably right around dealer invoice, but I personally would not be surprised if you could do even better than that. Sales at Porsche dealers has completely fallen off of a cliff. They are desperate for business. Combine this with the fact that the 2009 911 is an all-new, significantly improved car and dealers will be even more desperate to get ... Read More

• Re: Lease 2009 911 for under $1000 [gblind8]

  Written by: Ryan561 on Dec 21, 2008 9:45:04 PM

  I have found a dealer that is offering me 10% off a ordered base 911. I am not sure that the rates and residuals will be when the car comes in, but if I was to get the car today the dealer quoted: Here are the preliminary numbers for the 2009 Porsche Carrera. The payments were worked up with $5,000.00 total down. The payment is about $991.00 (including tax and tags) ... Read More

Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet Full Test

• Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet Full Test

  Written by: KarenS on Dec 19, 2008 8:20:43 AM

  Only about 10 seconds elapse in our drive of the 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet before we realize that we've just begun a love/hate relationship with Porsche's most brilliant piece of technology in the last 20 years — the Doppelkupplungsgetriebe, which, roughly translated, means "badass tranny." 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet Full Test

Porsche 911 Lease Questions

• Need help for 2009 911S Couple Lease

  Written by: jmarcum on Nov 2, 2008 11:44:50 AM

  I am looking to finalize a lease on an 09' 911S PDK. The options bring the base sticker up to 103k which includes $950 desination. Last the dealer showed me, the residual was 58 or 59 (I forget). I know I can get 5% off sticker....perhaps 7%. I am looking for 36 month/12k mile lease. I live in South Florida/Broward County. My question is: Must I go through Porsche Leasing or ... Read More

Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo

• Re: PDK reliability issues [madmanmoo]

  Written by: lemmer on Oct 24, 2008 8:09:35 AM

  Well, I remember some comparisons between the outgoing Porsche 944 S2 and the all new Nissan 300ZX in 1990. They proclaimed the Porsche the cost independent winner and a draw when considering cost. It says something about Porsche's engineering that they outhandled the Nissan using a chassis that was 14 years older. Same kind of thing now - the GT-R laps the 'Ring at 7:54, very close to the 2009 Carerra ... Read More

• Re: Nissan will fall apart [skarie]

  Written by: habitat1 on Oct 13, 2008 6:02:26 PM

  Almost every new cars that are made have a few bugs to be worked out, this Nissan is no exception. Give it time it will work. I'd give them slack for a "bug" or two. But a transmission that breaks and an instruction to owners NOT to use the "Launch Control" feature or you will invalidate your warranty?? That's not a "bug", that's a major mechanical engineering meltdown. I've always though ... Read More

• Re: Nissan will fall apart [habitat1]

  Written by: skarie on Oct 13, 2008 3:16:42 PM

  Well skarie-san, my video is better than yours - and in mine the S2000 is ahead of the 350Z the entire time: This still does not prove anything. It all depends on the driver, if it was only the S2000 and the 350Z in that race that might would have changed the out come. The bottom line here isn't whether the TL is fugly or why a 350Z "roadster" weighs 600 ... Read More

• Re: Mythical R-comps? [madmanmoo]

  Written by: skarie on Oct 3, 2008 10:13:00 AM

  Found only one so far, but this still does not prove anything. http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/coupes/2008_bmw_m3_vs_2009_n- issan_gt_r_vs_2008_porsche_911_turbo_comparison_test+page-3.html

Porsche 911 Lease Questions

• Leasing a custom ordered 2009 911

  Written by: phil0sophy on Sep 24, 2008 7:26:14 PM

  Hi there! Been reading Edmunds for years and have used the site to help buy/lease 5 cars, working my way up the automotive food chain from a couple of Jettas to my current car, an Audi S4 Cab. Well the lease is almost up on my cab and I am now planning to replace it with a custom ordered 2009 911 C4 Cab. List price on the car is $115,360 and ... Read More

Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera/Carrera S First Look and Drive

• RP

  Written by: reidpetty on Aug 21, 2008 7:20:13 PM

  2009 911 TURBO COUPE WHAT ARE THE CHANGES FOR THE NEW 2009 PORSCHE 911 COUPE VS THE 2008 MODEL?

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [heckmotor]

  Written by: madmanmoo on Jun 25, 2008 8:18:09 AM

  Pretty much the same thing. It appeared that you were asking if all of the 911's were getting the same brakes. I hope I didn't obfuscate the matter too much. :)

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [madmanmoo]

  Written by: heckmotor on Jun 24, 2008 5:09:25 PM

  Thanks madmanmoo, But isn't that exactly what I wrote in my first message? Since my entry is exclusively about rotor size and the calipers for the 3.6 l Carrera, I left out the obvious, such as brake wear indicator, etc.

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [heckmotor]

  Written by: madmanmoo on Jun 24, 2008 6:18:21 AM

  Heck, I messed it up a bit. All models are receiving upgraded calipers. The entry level model is receiving upgraded front rotors. Rotors remain the same on S models. Below I lifted the information directly from the order guide. Carrera Coupe Braking System 12.5” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc enclosed calipers – front, 11.8” vented and perforated rotors w/ 4 piston monobloc black calipers – rear. ABS 8.0 ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [madmanmoo]

  Written by: heckmotor on Jun 23, 2008 8:30:29 PM

  That would be the third version... What is your source? Anyway, I contacted Porsche Cars of North America today about this issue and requested clarification. Should get the answer in 2 to 3 days by email.

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [heckmotor]

  Written by: madmanmoo on Jun 23, 2008 6:07:00 AM

  For U.S. models, the front brakes are being enlarged while the rear remain the same. That's the information that I've received.

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look [KarenS]

  Written by: heckmotor on Jun 22, 2008 5:34:05 PM

  I assume the details about the 2009 Carreras in the articel are based on the Porsche "Press Information". However, the information given about the brake upgrade of the base 2009 Carrera Coupe may not be correct for US models. The article states: "Up front, the Carrera wears 13.0-by-1.3-inch discs, an upgrade over last year's 12.5-by-1.1-inch set. The rear discs are the same diameter as the fronts, though they're only 1.1 inches ... Read More

• 'Value' mathmatics 101 [jfjr]

  Written by: huntzinger on Jun 17, 2008 9:46:22 AM

  For what they cost and how they perform, a Porsche is not good value. I've driven many and am not impressed Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, just as are those qualitative factors that individual consumers choose as their priorities (or not!). By the way I drive a CTS-V and will be getting a 2009 one in the fall. How ironic is it that you mention that you're buying ... Read More

• First drive available!

  Written by: KarenS on Jun 16, 2008 12:05:26 PM

  First Drive: 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabriolet

Porsche 911

• Re: 2009 911 Announcement - Official this time! [buylow]

  Written by: madmanmoo on Jun 11, 2008 10:40:42 AM

  You bet. I thought the Porsche website was really awesome. Great introduction on the new features. In regards to your questions: 1. 997 history? Nope, they are referring to this as Generation 2. 2. PDK is offered as an option. Approximately 50% of the vehicles we have coming in will be with the new dual clutch system. Price? There have been no releases on pricing yet. Speculation? Probably $4k. 3. PDK ... Read More

Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera/Carrera S First Look and Drive

• Article Comments - 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and Carrera S First Look

  Written by: KarenS on Jun 11, 2008 9:46:09 AM

  You don't hang around for 45 years while perfecting your rare (eccentric?) rear-engine, rear-wheel-drive automotive formula only to get blindsided by a 21st-century technological juggernaut. You are the Porsche 911, and as good as the Audi R8 and Nissan GT-R might be, you are ready for them. Or you will be in the autumn of 2008 anyway. Read more and post your comments here! First Look: 2009 Porsche 911 Carrera and ... Read More

Porsche 911

• Re: 2009 911 Announcement - Official this time! [madmanmoo]

  Written by: buylow on Jun 10, 2008 5:43:20 PM

  Moo, Thank you for the information on the 2009's. The information on the prosche web site was very interesting. Just a couple of questions, Porsche talks about the new generation. Does this mean that the 997 is history? Are the new transmission and clutch offered as options only (answer may have been on the site, but I missed it)? If so, do you have any idea as to how much? Do ... Read More

• 2009 911 Announcement - Official this time!

  Written by: madmanmoo on Jun 6, 2008 10:39:21 AM

  Here's the official announcement straight from Porsche and I included a link to a Porche website that you're going to enjoy. It's very interactive and very clear. Check it out!! http://www.porsche.com/microsite/911/usa.aspx Porsche Releases Information and Photos of New 2009 911 Models New Generation 911s Combine Increased Performance with Better Fuel Efficiency Atlanta, June 6, 2008 - Porsche today disclosed photos and details for the next generation 911 model series. Four new ... Read More

• Re: 911 Questions - new v. used - help me please! [blckislandguy]

  Written by: buylow on Jun 4, 2008 9:48:03 PM

  Sounds like you got in down! I did it backwards-bought the car first and have been studying and learning about porsches ever since (about three months now). Test drove one on Saturday and went to the prosche dealer and bought a 911 on Sunday, and I'm the engineering type-usually analyze the heck out of everything before I buy. But, I got lucky, my 2006 911 coup has some options, three of ... Read More

Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [habitat1]

  Written by: bigmclargehuge on May 2, 2008 6:29:20 AM

  But with all due respect to those that question Porsche, Ferrari or other buyers regarding their objectivity No 2 wrongs make a right. Nobody should be telling other people what they want. Bear in mind these are not always the same people. Though you've gone down that road yourself. Are you not a person who told me to work harder so I could afford a real sports car? Sounds like you ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [speed6driver]

  Written by: habitat1 on May 2, 2008 5:16:37 AM

  There's a certain degree of mystery and natural fascination with the GT-R because it's like a dream you can never quite remember. It's there, and then gone again leaving hints of the memory behind to piece together. The idea of a car becoming a methphor representing that mystery, surprise and dominance is the fun part. That is what sets the GT-R apart from the competition and makes it more than just ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [speed6driver]

  Written by: bmlexus on May 1, 2008 10:14:42 AM

  Jay Leno will probably be one of the first in line to get one He already GOT IT !!!!!!!!!!!! As I remembered he said its like a junior veyron !!! There is also a video you can check it out. link title

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [speed6driver]

  Written by: 240ka on May 1, 2008 9:28:15 AM

  indeed. and to add to that, just look at how 911 TT's depreciate in value.

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [speed6driver]

  Written by: sjaieve on May 1, 2008 7:43:38 AM

  This is the most thoughtful and insightful writing I have ever seen on any of these forums. I agree with you 100% and I will not try to add more since nothing really needs to be added. $70k gets you so much more and personally I would rather buy the object than the name.

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [07997turbo]

  Written by: speed6driver on May 1, 2008 5:22:38 AM

  Hold on to Porsche's if you want to but many people will be holding on to this Nissan at 1/2 the price. I like Porsche's a lot but a Porsche isn't a GT-R and here's why: The appeal of the GT-R isn't just the speed or handling or that it can smoke an unmodified 911 turbo in every category. The fun of the GT-R is in the legend. Porsche doesn't have ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [07997turbo]

  Written by: bigmclargehuge on May 1, 2008 5:17:05 AM

  ^^^^ I must respectfully call that irrelevant. This is more or less a debate, so I don't mean to sound short. This is not a motorcycle. But sports motorcycles and dirtbikes, etc do become obsolete fast. Thats just because they make tremendous improvements almost yearly. A sports bike from 5 years ago cannot compete with one from today without heavy modification. Its just cheaper and easier to replace them than keep ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [240ka]

  Written by: 07997turbo on Apr 30, 2008 5:35:45 PM

  I must respectfully disagree with everything you just said. Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki all make fast bikes that look "exotic" for a year.... and then end up in a bone yard or pared behind a garage to rust away in 5 years Such is the demise of the "Rice crowd". Fine german engineering can only be recognized and appreciated by those who study and understand it. Not to many "Nissan collectors" out ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [07997turbo]

  Written by: 240ka on Apr 28, 2008 4:46:11 PM

  please tell me what you are talking about. most people cant even tell the difference between any of the 911 platforms. ha, most cant even tell the difference between a boxster/cayman and 911. seeing a 911/ turbo is just like seeing a vette. its just another porsche like the vette is another vette-z06 or not. even when the zr-1 comes it will be seen as just another vette after its been ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [07997turbo]

  Written by: bigmclargehuge on Apr 23, 2008 12:25:27 PM

  Owning a Porsche is like being part of a very special family. Many of them sound very special indeed. A GT-R owner would get as much attention as a 911turbo owner, just from a slightly different crowd of car fans. To some, owning a rarer, faster, and more aggressive styled car is worth a snap-shot and a compliment when viewed in person. Some might argue that the V-Spec will make old ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [chrmdome]

  Written by: 07997turbo on Apr 22, 2008 10:40:22 PM

  there are so many cars out there that look all the same... from Nissan to toyota/Lexus... and they are all "nice cars". The thing is.... I cant tell you how many times I have had people walk up to me and compliment my 997 turbo. It happened two times today alone! One guy just "Had to hear it rev up" which I was glad to do for him. Owning a Porsche ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [habitat1]

  Written by: 07997turbo on Apr 22, 2008 9:54:32 PM

  Personally, I would rather roll at 194 MPH in my 911 turbo than in a two ton Japanese train wreck. As for the turbo not being the Pinnacle of the Porsche line.... It was... if only for a few months. I should add that I was highly dissapointed that my dealer DIDNT say "Hey.... hold on a few months.... there's something better coming down the pipe"... None the less! Once the ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [chrmdom [chrmdome]

  Written by: bigmclargehuge on Apr 8, 2008 9:21:29 AM

  I think you missed epik's point a little bit. A driving difference there may be, but that is all in 'excees' of the driving necessity that the Altima would allow. i.e. nobody 'needs' to go faster than the posted speed limit. To each their own indeed, there is nothing wrong with buying in excess so long as they are willing to admit it. Enjoyment has nothing to do with smart. In ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [chrmdom

  Written by: chrmdome on Apr 8, 2008 8:51:10 AM

  Greetings: Ahhhhhhhh,,,yes,,,,,,,," excess ". The person with the most CLEAN toys wins....If you can't appreciate the driving difference between a C2S and an Altima... less power to you. To each his own. Every time I get into my 2006 C2S a smile goes across my face. Some people collect wines....I like cars and my Porsche is worth every penny of the $99,999.49 I spent " out the door" for it, and ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [chrmdom

  Written by: epik15 on Apr 4, 2008 4:13:49 PM

  Who knows whether the GTR will be here 44 years from now but you can say the same thing about the 911. Unless you are trying to say that the 911 has already proven itself by lasting as long as it has? Which is pretty impressive since the first production year for a 911 was 1964. But then again you'd have to also consider that the first production year for a ... Read More

• According to MT the GTR packs at least 507 HP

  Written by: motownusa on Apr 3, 2008 6:10:28 AM

  http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0803_2009_nissan_gt_r_dyno_test The hysteria surrounding the impending launch of Nissan's GT-R has prompted a mad rush to judge its performance. Various media outlets have attempted to test well-worn engineering mule cars and Japanese-spec vehicles with 112-mph speed limiters. Some have run acceleration tests on sloped track surfaces. Many an unsuspecting GT-R has powered the tire rollers and hub mounts of various dynamometers, registering widely varying power ratings. Most of the numbers generated ... Read More

• Re: GT-R at LeMans [thenebean]

  Written by: claires on Feb 28, 2008 11:34:01 AM

  Apparently, this conversation will continue to go in circles with you, so perhaps we should just let sleeping dogs lie (or whatever appropriate cliche you would like to use) and agree to disagree. Regardless of any facts, you will continue to insist that the Porsche is better. Period. It's safe to say that there will be a counter to every position here, and that everyone's opinions (of the vehicles in question) ... Read More

• Re: Interior [240ka]

  Written by: razorasdf on Feb 15, 2008 4:43:30 PM

  what i find so funny moo is how you are going crazy over the 911 turbos performance when its performance numbers are lower than the GT-R. and the 911 turbo 0-60 in 3.5 or 3.6 the GT-R does 3.3 secs 0-60 only way that makes since is that its obviously your dream car that you seem to be drooling abit Zero to sixty times are not the end-all, be-all of performance ... Read More

• Re: GT-R vs. 911 [madmanmoo]

  Written by: thenebean on Feb 12, 2008 10:29:04 AM

  It's probably a VERY different clientele from Nissan buyers - and I bet the actual sales process is a bit more pleasureable for Porsche than Nissan. way back when i was a kid, i LOVED Porsches...always wanted to own one. But then something changed (i think it was my first car in high school - a 1992 maxima) that turned me towards Nissans. and maybe i AM a fan boy (or ... Read More

• Re: hi [bmlexus]

  Written by: 240ka on Feb 9, 2008 12:25:07 PM

  yeah they are face lifting the 997 911 as we speak to try and get it to outperform the GT-R it will have 20hp but cosmetically dont expect too much change from the 911. as we've seen from the last 7 years-porsches isnt into too much cosmetic change. i still think the 911 is a looker no question. but im positive if a 911 turbo, GT2, or GT3 were sitting next ... Read More

• Re: GTR [chrmdome]

  Written by: 240ka on Jan 16, 2008 11:03:00 PM

  well you need to do your reseach b/c the GT-R will have been here for 40 years in 2009. and it will continue to be here. the fact of the matter is that you porsche fanboys hate the fact that the GT-R is better than the 996 and 997 911, 996 GT2 and is on the tails of the 997 GT2, GT3 and it didnt take the car needing to cost ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [pmc4]

  Written by: chrmdome on Jan 3, 2008 7:05:37 PM

  Greetings: Yep, it's either froglegs or suchi. Ya the GT-R , heavy as a whale. You ever had whale bubblegum? The chew lasts till 2009. Chromedome

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [cruiser69]

  Written by: madmanmoo on Jan 3, 2008 1:19:58 PM

  That's why the majority of my customers get "Driver Care". $695 and you have a 5 yr unlimited mileage, unlimited cap cost on your wheels and tires. jAs long as you aren't curbing it, the warranty covers everything. Awesome product and no worries about those beautiful rims. -moo

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [habitat1]

  Written by: cruiser69 on Jan 3, 2008 8:57:09 AM

  Good points. Chromedome and i were having a little friendly discussion on the subject. I think he was a little peeved about the prostate comment..LOL. But its all in good fun. Yes, both cars certainly have a fun factor to them. Like you, i certainly enjoy playing with the pedal every once and a while. Like you said, to each their own. I just think the Porsches are, at least most ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [cruiser69]

  Written by: habitat1 on Jan 3, 2008 4:10:35 AM

  You are certainly welcome to your perogative to drive an American classic rather than a high performance sports car. But I think your assumption that you have to break the speed limit by a factor of two to enjoy the latter is incorrect. Over the past 2+ years, every time I go somewhere, I have a choice of a 2004 Acura TL 6-speed and a 2005 911 C2S Cab. During that ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [chrmdome]

  Written by: cruiser69 on Jan 2, 2008 10:30:22 AM

  Thats the second time you made an assumption that i cant afford one. I have driven all of the cars you have stated and no, they do not make good daily drivers, especially in a winter climate. Who wants salt on a nice car like that? Who would use a fine performance machine as a daily driver? Ever try to put luggage in it? What a waste. I dont care to ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [habitat1]

  Written by: rickedd46 on Jan 1, 2008 8:35:15 AM

  Ditto that. Happy new year everyone, I'm new on this board. I haven't had the time to read all the posts but obviously there's the feeling coming from some people that the GT-R will dethrone the Porsche from its well deserved position. If I was one of the many who think this way I would look at history first and compare how many new sportcars have come and gone during the ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [dogface5]

  Written by: pmc4 on Dec 31, 2007 8:42:31 PM

  With that kind of flawed logic, the LS460 must have had a lot of cost cutting compared to the MB S550. The LS has won every comparison test, is far more reliable, and is $25k cheaper. a toyota yaris is more reliable than the S550. An excellent point. Likewise, Nissan can bring to market higher technology, similar (deliberately so, IMHO) configuration and layout of engine and chassis, fancier materials and seel ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [dogface5]

  Written by: pmc4 on Dec 31, 2007 8:42:26 PM

  With that kind of flawed logic, the LS460 must have had a lot of cost cutting compared to the MB S550. The LS has won every comparison test, is far more reliable, and is $25k cheaper. a toyota yaris is more reliable than the S550. An excellent point. Likewise, Nissan can bring to market higher technology, similar (deliberately so, IMHO) configuration and layout of engine and chassis, fancier materials and seel ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [dogface5]

  Written by: pmc4 on Dec 31, 2007 8:42:15 PM

  With that kind of flawed logic, the LS460 must have had a lot of cost cutting compared to the MB S550. The LS has won every comparison test, is far more reliable, and is $25k cheaper. a toyota yaris is more reliable than the S550. An excellent point. Likewise, Nissan can bring to market higher technology, similar (deliberately so, IMHO) configuration and layout of engine and chassis, fancier materials and seel ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [chrmdome]

  Written by: pmc4 on Dec 31, 2007 8:36:49 PM

  Chrmdome, the Porsche design was copied from something. Here's the Porsche design: And here's the design from which the car was copied: The frogskin, however, is probably more supple than the leather in the Porsche...

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [cruiser69]

  Written by: chrmdome on Dec 31, 2007 3:43:40 PM

  Greetings: As a general answer to your post, you should do a little more in depth reading about the C2, C2S C4 and C4s. These Porsches have been touted by most car magazine authors as being the best in balancing a high performance car as a daily driver. Why do we enjoy driving these car so much, realizing that most speed limits are at the 70mph limit? With a few illegal ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [cruiser69]

  Written by: chrmdome on Dec 31, 2007 1:29:06 PM

  Simply:..... rude... and maybe just a ittle jelous.... but more like really RUDE! Chromedome ( a little thin on the top, but the prostate has not gone the way on BPH yet, thank you , and yes I can afford it thank you ! )

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [KarenS]

  Written by: cruiser69 on Dec 31, 2007 8:22:34 AM

  Wow. I have heard of taking pride in ownership before but come on guys. These are nothing more than top performing, non practical vehicles that you cannot open up legally on public roads any ways. I bet any police officer with a quota to fill would gladly radio ahead to collect from your fat wallets while you mearly drive these vehicles through their jurisdiction. These cars are meant for closed road ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [madmanmoo]

  Written by: chrmdome on Dec 30, 2007 11:14:40 AM

  Greetings: I whole-heartedly agree...the numbers are right there. The Youtube video was impressive. We all look for different things in cars, I am sure, many Porsche owners are looking for performance, design, heritage , history and for myself including those concerns quality is a big issue. My C2S will probably be in great shape 20 years from now, the GT-R..hmmmm????At the SD auto show closing doors and feeling the leather seats ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [chrmdome]

  Written by: madmanmoo on Dec 29, 2007 2:07:01 PM

  The "snake-oil" salesman was touting the GTR to be the best thing since sliced bread. ................ In all fairness, the numbers they are posting are pretty substantial. In regards to styling, opinions rule. Build quality? That will most likely be subpar as compared to the 911 Turbo. Let's see what happens though. (All this coming from a Porsche salesman.) :D -moo

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [habitat1]

  Written by: chrmdome on Dec 29, 2007 1:53:30 PM

  Greetings: I went to the San Diego Auto Show 2008, yesterday, and saw the GT-R. The "snake-oil" salesman was touting the GTR to be the best thing since sliced bread. Fair enough, they want to sell cars. However..... any non-biased observer would immediately see the Godzilla styling and body panel issues that this car has...such as, you ask?? Yes ...the different colors between the fender and bumper panels. Very obvious. Plastic ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [nizmogtr3]

  Written by: habitat1 on Dec 28, 2007 8:23:05 AM

  2 sec demolish of a porsche on the track ! Good grief, this forum seems to be slipping into a level of testosterone blinded immaturity that is even embarassing to read. If the 2 second difference between a GT-R and 997 Turbo is "demolishing", then what is the 7 second advantage of a 911 GT2 over the GT-R? "Super-duper-uber" demolishing?? Grow up. The fact is, all of these times were posted ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [nizmogtr3]

  Written by: chrmdome on Dec 26, 2007 1:57:11 PM

  Greetings: Ya see!, ....... you guys will never understand those who own Porsches. Once you've owned one you realize that there is no car like it and you want nothing else. You guys, Corvette owners included ..just don't get it. WE DON"T CARE. It's been stated before " you get what you pay for. Trimming down always costs you ( one who makes the purschase as well as one who sells ... Read More

• Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [chrmdome]

  Written by: nizmogtr3 on Dec 25, 2007 9:37:34 AM

  Merry Christmas everybody From Canada No hard feelings people The GTR is a new breed squashes a vette or a porshe and is 10x more stable a platform using a v6 it makes the vette v8 engine seem retarded the transmission is new age wind turbolence Drag is slick sucks air that would normally buffet the front of the car out the side areo slits with full functionality this car is ... Read More