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Re: Paid on a 135 2008 lease [fivewheeler]
Written by: andy_martini on Feb 12, 2009 9:29:27 PM
I didn't lease the i128 but I did get the car through the BMW Select program using BMW FS. The banks for BMW and Volvo made leasing really unattractive. Low residuals and lots of up front fees drove the price up and dealers can only take so much out. The BMW Select program gives a payment like a lease, but at the end you have to either pay the balloon (residual) ... Read More
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Carman (or someone) help with final lease negotiations.
Written by: pilotnewbie on Jan 27, 2009 7:20:08 AM
I am currently in the throws of negotiating a lease with local BMW dealer. Its a 2008 135i convertible. Pretty much loaded. Dealer says lease rates are much better on the 2008's. They have located the car I wanted (options, colors, etc.) at another dealership. What they are offering: MSRP $50,950 - I confirmed this on Edmunds.com Negotiated Price $47,800 Cost to ship to my local dealer is included in neg. ... Read More
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Re: Paid on a 135 2008 lease [PaulBD]
Written by: Car_man on Jan 14, 2009 3:41:16 AM
You're very welcome, PaulBD. Generally speaking, vehicles' MSRPs and dealer invoice prices go up as time passes, not down. I heard that BMW raised its prices slightly on a number of models on January 1st, but I don't know off of the top of my head if the 1-Series was one of them. Having said this, vehicles' actual selling prices usually trend downward as the model year progresses. Car_man Host Prices ... Read More
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Re: Paid on a 135 2008 lease [PaulBD]
Written by: Car_man on Jan 6, 2009 2:43:56 AM
No problem, PaulBD. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2009 BMW 135i Coupe that has an MSRP of $42,875 and a selling price of $39,945 ($500 over invoice...it may be a tad optimistic, but why not aim high) through BMW Financial Services right now for 24 months with 10,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $644. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying ... Read More
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Re: Paid on a 135 2008 lease [PaulBD]
Written by: Car_man on Jan 5, 2009 3:48:29 AM
Welcome PaulBD. I would be happy to use BMW's actual lease program to work up a sample payment on the exact car that you are interested in for you. However, in order to do so I need you to provide me with its MSRP and approximate selling price first. You can look up the MSRP and invoice price (which would suffice) over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of Edmunds.com. Let ... Read More
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Re: Since... [mrrat]
Written by: hpowders on Oct 13, 2008 1:42:09 PM
There are plenty of folks driving around in their cheap-leased BMWs who could not afford to buy them. Driving a typically-leased 2008 328i, pretty well-loaded with premium package and AT for only $450-$500 a month? Too many "pretenders" out there. Now, for the first time in many years the BMW buyers will outnumber the leasees, giving much needed status back to the brand. Those who can afford one, will be driving ... Read More
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Re: Since... [bodble2]
Written by: skobola on Oct 12, 2008 11:01:58 PM
I doubt that there would be any problem in ordering whatever you want, and the car should be delivered in 6-8 weeks on the East Coast. This is a standard procedure, and there should be a number of dealers willing to order it for you. For example, I have ordered my 3 with BMW assist and metallic paint, which is a pretty plain car, on 3/15/2008, and it was delivered to ... Read More
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Re: Since... [bodble2]
Written by: hpowders on Oct 12, 2008 8:59:18 PM
I know CR is no car enthusiast's bible, but they recently tested a bare-bones 135i Coupe and assigned it the highest score ever for a sporty vehicle. In the article, some testers complained about the lack of wood and lumbar support, but it was explained that the car was purposely ordered "sparse" to keep the price down. I have done an extensive search of Florida BMW dealer's new inventory and unfortunately ... Read More
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Re: Since... [cdnpinhead]
Written by: hpowders on Oct 12, 2008 8:53:10 PM
Yes. The run-flat situation turns me off too... as does the user unfriendly turn signals, the new 2-step starting system and the audio controls. BMWNA is really hurting.... no doubt about it.... I have never seen an entire BMW line for sale at 0.9%. With so many 2008's piling up, the outlook for the 2009's looks bleak at best. BMW will have to seriously cut production to the USA.
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Re: Since... [cdnpinhead]
Written by: hpowders on Oct 12, 2008 5:09:47 PM
We knew those ridiculously cheap leases couldn't last. As a result, fewer "pretenders" will be driving BMW's, restoring some well-needed status to the brand. If BMW thinks the majority of leasees will all of a sudden be converted into buyers, I believe they are quite mistaken. They can offer 0.0% loans, but most folks won't bite because they will be justifiably concerned about expensive out of warranty repairs 4 years down ... Read More
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Re: Since... [fedlawman]
Written by: hpowders on Oct 12, 2008 7:10:56 AM
The trick to buying a new BMW is to order one with as few electronic gimmicks as possible-no premium package, no steptronic transmission, no i-Drive, ordering the reliable inline six, etc; BMW finds itself in a bind. They were the ideal leasing company as few of us would take a chance on long-term ownership. Now with the focus on buying, they will have fewer future customers and their bottom line will ... Read More
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Re: Since... [bodble2]
Written by: hpowders on Oct 11, 2008 5:00:31 PM
The problem with that is: BMW leases are unattractive at this time. BMW wants you to buy their vehicles, offering 0.9% financing on most, if not all 2008 models through October 31st. A 2008 335i coupe can be bought and financed at 0.9%. The same vehicle when leased will have a finance charge of 5.76% with a horrible residual to add insult to injury. The message is clear: BMW does not ... Read More
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Re: Article Comments - 2008 BMW 128i vs. 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman [KarenS [ltq]
Written by: roadburner on Aug 21, 2008 5:22:59 PM
(soon, any car that isn't capable of around 30mpg will be a negative image and embarrassing to be seen in - what!!??! Pay that much $$ to be embarrassed in a Bimmer?) Both of my current track rats(a 1995 3 Series and a 2007 Mazdaspeed 3) get reasonably good gas mileage, but I would never select a car based on whether it offends the sensibilities of the tree-hugging eco-weenies. As a ... Read More
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Re: Article Comments - 2008 BMW 128i vs. 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman [KarenS
Written by: ltq on Aug 21, 2008 9:22:37 AM
Generally well-done article. But once again, it's obvious that it's subjective on which car is "better", because there are so many factors that are weighted differently for each person. To me, great fun and so much power @ 28mpg for the Mini canNOT be matched by anything else on the market, and BMW1 doesn't come close. Rear seat room for adults is also a big factor for me, BMW1 loses again. ... Read More
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Re: Article Comments - 2008 BMW 128i vs. 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman [KarenS]
Written by: bpf on Aug 12, 2008 7:38:45 PM
Very interesting comparison. Although I am not a professional auto journalist with access to handy dandy test measuring tools for that objective data, I can "one up" this article and speak to a Mini Clubman S I rented for a week in Florida compared to the 2007 Audi S4 I own. Compared to the Clubman S I drove that week, sure, the Audi is undeniably the faster better handling machine dynamically. ... Read More
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Article Comments - 2008 BMW 128i vs. 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman
Written by: KarenS on Aug 12, 2008 11:46:36 AM
How is it possible, you say, that these two cars — the 2008 BMW 128i and the 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman — find themselves facing off in a comparison test? Read more and post your comments here! Comparison Test: 2008 BMW 128i vs. 2008 Mini Cooper S Clubman
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Re: Quiet forum; few 1 series on road. [pod]
Written by: blueguydotcom on Jul 29, 2008 6:30:08 AM
Through June BMW has sold 6000+ 1 series cars. They aimed to sell 10k 1 series car in 2008. Everybody believes they will hit that easily. 6 more months of 2008 and no hint that things are slowing for the 1.
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A Fine Comparo!
Written by: hpowders on Jun 24, 2008 11:59:58 AM
The Truth About Cars, Mike Solowiow, April 21, 2008: "After testing BMW 135i and 335i Coupes back-to-back, I can reveal that there are only two good reasons to purchase the smaller, cheaper car. Either you need a track day machine or you're an idiot." "The poorly-packaged BMW 135i proved too difficult (read: unrewarding) to drive in daily situations. If the 335i didn't exist, you could make a pretty good case for ... Read More
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No 1 Series In Sight!
Written by: hpowders on Jun 17, 2008 7:48:01 AM
I was at one of my favorite places to view upscale vehicles yesterday-the Tampa airport indoor short-term parking garage. I drove through many aisles-lot's of BMW's-3's, a couple of M3's and 5's, an Infiniti M 45; various Lexus' and MB's. No BMW 1's yet. Haven't seen any on the road yet either. Scarce. On the way to the airport, a 2008 Honda Accord EX V6 kept tailing me. I was going ... Read More
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Re: The 1-Series needs no defense [tagman]
Written by: hpowders on Jun 16, 2008 8:15:27 PM
Sorry for this digression good people, but I must answer TM's post. You are right. The new 5'er when it came out in 2004,was almost universally loathed-people did not know what to make of its bold, new, aggressive and sexy styling. Surely, a radical change from "same old" conservative BMW. Since the introduction, people have gradually come to their senses and come to terms with the new design and consequently sales/leases ... Read More
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Nah!!
Written by: hpowders on Jun 15, 2008 11:18:05 AM
The 3 Series remains unchallenged! It offers most of what you get performance-wise with the 1 but in a roomier, easier on the eyes package. It is still not too late to exchange that 135i for a beautiful, incomparable 335i coupe in red or black. Car and Driver gave the "lowly" 328i sedan an unprecedented "25" out of 25 possible points in "fun to drive" in a "Best Sports Sedan" comparo ... Read More
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Re: She's Right! [davidd3]
Written by: hpowders on Jun 10, 2008 8:31:06 PM
Well, the 2009's will be coming out sometime in the fall, so it is normal for the residuals to be dropping during June on the 2008's. It looks like BMW is not having any trouble moving out the 1 and 3 Series vehicles. Their big concern is what the heck to do with vehicles like my 2005 545i coming back to BMW off lease this summer that get only 20 mpg ... Read More
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335 vs 135
Written by: circlew on Apr 27, 2008 6:36:55 AM
Here is a statement and review from Autospies regarding 335 v. 135: Which Is The Better Car? 2008 BMW 135i vs. 335i Review After testing BMW 135i and 335i coupes back-to-back, I can reveal that there are only two good reasons to purchase the smaller, cheaper car. Either you need a track day machine or you're an idiot. Otherwise, spend the extra bucks and buy the 335i coupe. The 335i coupe ... Read More
