2009 Subaru Forester Consumer Discussions

Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions

• 2012 forester ecm problem

  Written by: meme123 on Feb 1, 2012 3:07:39 PM

  Hi- My 2012 forester 2.5x with pzev. We have driven it for 5000 miles so far. On 3 different occasions we have had the check engine, traction control (solid) and cruise light (flashing)come on at the same time. We took it and had the codes run on the computer-it was listing misfires on the 1st and 2nd... with a permanent code on the 2nd. The dealership took a look at the ... Read More

Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2012 2.5X Premium w/ winter package [niftydan]

  Written by: ursus on Jan 9, 2012 9:49:59 AM

  "FYI-If you special order then you can't get their 0% or 1.9% financing." That's not true. I just got my 2012 Forester X Touring at 1.9%/63 month. I ordered it at the end of November an picked it up on December 30. MSRP $29,481 (rear bumper cover, arch molding kit, mirror with home link & compass): paid $600 under invoice + got $890 over Chase's buyout price on my leased 2009 ... Read More

Subaru Forester Air Conditioning Problems

• Re: 2009 Forester AC problem [vasubaru12]

  Written by: rogerh1 on Dec 26, 2011 7:02:51 AM

  Hi, My 2009 Subaru Forrester is having related problems - whenever I turn on the front window defrost, fuse #22 blows. I took it to the dealer and they told me I need to replace the compressor, cost = $1000. Seems like too young of a car to have this kind of issue. buummer :(

Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• What is a fair offer for this

  Written by: aveeight on Sep 25, 2011 6:37:09 PM

  I was wondering if anyone had any advice for me here on what a fair offer would be for this car: 2009 Forester 2.5x Limited w 28,700 miles http://www.raffertysubaru.com/used/Subaru/2009-Subaru-Forester+2.5X+Limited+5DR+- 2.5/-23a7220a0a0d048e017c1ee03895f8e4.htm The asking price is 22,995. Would 21,500 be reasonable or is that insulting? New I think this goes for $26,000 or so. Also - maybe someone here can tell me, what does Limited get you over Premium? The options and features ... Read More

Tiguan vs. Forester vs. CR-V

• Re: Test Drives: Tiguan / Forester

  Written by: unitedflyier on Sep 18, 2011 6:31:21 AM

  I drove a 2009 Tiguan Sport and hated it. The interior colours and seat looked depressing and dull. The ride was also very choppy. I recently went to see the new 2012 Tiguan SE and loved it. I only got to drive a 2011 TDI DSG as the 2012 was a manual. I loved the DSG, a great smooth shifting ride. It has a lot of the equipment I want but ... Read More

2009 Forester wheel arch molding

• Re: 2009 Forester wheel arch molding [alsipja]

  Written by: xwesx on Sep 8, 2011 8:48:04 AM

  Most likely, you're only going to find the kit. I imagine the best source for securing just one piece might be private sales on Craigslist, but that's a long shot given the rarity with which these pieces are lost. You could also get a set from an online discount Subaru parts source and/or use Subaru Bucks. At least you would save some money in the process, even if you end up ... Read More

Subaru Forester Air Conditioning Problems

• Re: 2009 Forester AC problem [vasubaru12]

  Written by: baires60 on Aug 10, 2011 5:55:01 AM

  WOW that is a new car practically, my car 2010 subaru forester had a problem and blew hot air at the beginning of the summer - I took it to the dealer and they said they found a leak and replaced the evaporator? Whatever it was, they needed to wait for a part to fix it. It works great now but after hearing your story I am waiting to see what ... Read More

• Re: 2009 Forester AC problem [mjb59]

  Written by: vasubaru12 on Aug 9, 2011 1:07:40 PM

  My AC in my 2009 Forester started blowing hot air about a year after I bought it (bought it in July 2008). I took it to the dealer and they couldn't find a leak but did replace what they called a Shrader valve on it and they put more freon in it and it worked pretty good for 2 years. Now I have about 72,000 miles on the car and it ... Read More

• Re: 2009 Subaru Forester AC stopped working [samsuby]

  Written by: mgoltra on Jun 29, 2011 10:49:29 PM

  my 09 forester's a/c broke around 28K. Sprayed Freon all over my face and my wife's. Dealer said it was the condenser. It was replaced eventually but A/C is not the same, it doesn't get that cold.

2010 Forester XT "Clunk"

• Re: 2011 Forester XT "clunk" [al0324]

  Written by: billwv on Jun 23, 2011 7:49:10 PM

  It is the ABS self test which test the ABS system after start up when you reach about 9 miles per hr speed. In my 2009 manual this is described in section 7 page 23 entitled ABS system self check. Enjoy your new Subaru. bill

Subaru Forester Air Conditioning Problems

• Re: 2009 Subaru Forester AC stopped working [quark613]

  Written by: baires60 on Jun 14, 2011 12:31:05 PM

  Hi, I bought a 2010 subaru forester in January 2010 and I went to start my AC on those hot muggy days last week and nothing. I had used it a couple of weeks ago or maybe a month now and it seemed to work fine but may have been that I was going over 60 and the air was coming in colder. But is anyone else experiencing this on the ... Read More

Gold Plus Extended Warranty -- worth it?

• warranty

  Written by: danball on May 21, 2011 2:54:17 PM

  After my 2009 Forester Turbo blew an engine at 30,000 miles, I asked for and received a gold plan warranty. Is this largesse on the part of Subaru USA or just an attempt to shut me up. I've taken many surveys that Subaru has sent me and told it as it was. Funny, no reaction. I was never told what the problem was ( although the dealership sent the engine back ... Read More

Brake Pads for 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5X

• Re: Brake Pads for 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5X [ateixeira]

  Written by: dcm61 on Apr 13, 2011 6:24:32 PM

  I'm not familiar with the Raybestos but it sounds sort of generic. Raybestos (circa 1902) is a year older than Ford Motor Company. Raybestos doesn't sound as generic as Ford. :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raybestos

• Re: Brake Pads for 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5X [twripper]

  Written by: ateixeira on Apr 12, 2011 8:04:34 AM

  I can do better - here's a link to the full article: http://www.caranddriver.com/features/02q3/shedding_light_on_fading_brakes-featur- e Looks like they used a Subaru after all - a WRX!

• Re: Brake Pads for 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5X [twripper]

  Written by: ic_designer on Apr 11, 2011 7:51:24 PM

  I use Akebono brake pads in my Outback and Corolla. I am very happy with it. You can read the review at tirerack.com or amazon. The brake pads are very quiet. I use ATE slotted rotor on my Outback and Centric rotor on my Corolla. Centric is a lot cheaper. Stopping distance seems to be better with Akebono pads and Centric rotor combination. This is probably because Corolla is a lot ... Read More

• Re: Brake Pads for 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5X [ateixeira]

  Written by: twripper on Apr 11, 2011 1:51:27 PM

  @ ateixeira All they did was replace the pads? Just wondering cause usually from what I know you also want to resurface your rotors before putting on new pads. Also do you know if the test was done on a Forester or on another vehicle?

• Re: Brake Pads for 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5X [twripper]

  Written by: ateixeira on Apr 11, 2011 1:42:58 PM

  C&D had an article where they changed just the pads and I recall the Hawk pads performed quite admirably. I'm not familiar with the Raybestos but it sounds sort of generic.

• Brake Pads for 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5X

  Written by: twripper on Apr 11, 2011 1:34:13 PM

  I have a 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5X and have been looking at getting new brake pads but looking to upgrade from the standard OEM pads. I was wondering if anyone out there has tried any higher performance pads and if anyone out there can recommend any specific brake pads? I was looking at the Raybestos Professional Grade Ceramics and the Hawk Performance Ceramic pads...the price of the Hawk's are about double ... Read More

Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions

• Re: Hitch Possibilities.... [sgloon]

  Written by: paisan on Mar 4, 2011 2:59:51 PM

  1. When talking about pre vs post 2010---I don't know which variation actually refers to the 2010?? (pre or post, or if it applies to my car at all?) I think this is more for the hole drilling that I am concerned. 2009-2011 Foresters are all the same chassis so you should be good. 4. There is discussion about what to do for an AT. I have a MT, is there ... Read More

• Re: Hitch Possibilities.... [paisan]

  Written by: aatherton on Mar 4, 2011 6:20:34 AM

  Pre-2008, the automatic transmission had an external spin-on filter as shown here: http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/attachments/problems-maintenance/15283d12614- - 43974-2005-ob-oil-filter-imag0021.jpg and here: http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9540/5064502498b0501f6cfus1.jpg For the 2008 MY the filter mount was plugged with a bolted cap: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/vintagefortytwo/Forester/IMG_0692.jpg And for 2009 the filter mount was closed with an integral casting: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/vintagefortytwo/Forester/2009ForesterATfi- - - - - - lterhole.jpg Those photos of the 2008 and 2009 Forester automatic transmissions are not misleading. They show where the external spin-on transmission ... Read More

• Re: Hitch Possibilities.... [aatherton]

  Written by: paisan on Mar 3, 2011 6:06:01 PM

  The OEM trans filter was deleted in mid-2007 for the 2008 model year. For the 2008 MY it was plugged with a bolted cap: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/vintagefortytwo/Forester/IMG_0692.jpg And for 2009 the filter hole was closed with an integral casting: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/vintagefortytwo/Forester/2009ForesterATfi- - - lterhole.jpg Sorry but you are giving out Mis-information. It was not deleted. They moved it to the inner fender well below the battery on the turbo cars. On the non turbo ... Read More

• Re: Hitch for 2010Forester [sgloon]

  Written by: aatherton on Mar 3, 2011 4:13:49 AM

  "Thanks for the pics! They are helpful." Here's a video: http://www.etrailer.com/tv-Hitch-install-2009-Subaru-Forester.aspx

• Re: New Car Break-In [fendertweed]

  Written by: aatherton on Feb 28, 2011 12:33:03 PM

  "... my understanding is that the HG problem is largely corrected by my MY ('09)..." The HG problem was caused by the open deck cylinder block design, which was not corrected until the new engine for MY 2011. The HG problem is only mitigated by changes in the HG design, and by the addition of Subaru Coolant Conditioner, which is Holt's RadWeld. Holt's Radweld contains a sealant compound that solidifies when ... Read More

Subaru Forester Engine problems

• Re: Is the the Forester nav system a clunker? [plasticmoonrai]

  Written by: ateixeira on Feb 24, 2011 12:29:29 PM

  It's nothing ground breaking but that is overstatement to say the least. And I'm a critic! The 7" screen is pretty standard for the class, and the rendering of maps is actually a little better than average. Check the CNET reviews for a good video review - nothing special, but better rendering than Honda or Mitsubishi in this price range. Watch the CNET reviews, you can actually see the street names ... Read More

2009 Subaru Forester mileage reports

• 2009 Forester XT Limited w/ Navigation

  Written by: mike_in_nepa on Jan 28, 2011 10:14:51 AM

  I have a 2009 Forester XT Limited with Navigation with almost 30,000 miles on mine now. The lifetime fuel average is 19.5 mpg. It has been trouble free, very reliable, but the fuel economy for something that was driven 75% highway is a bit dismal. I am really hoping the 2012 model gets a 5 speed automatic for better highway fuel economy. My lease on the Forester is up the end ... Read More

• Re: July 4th [gimmestdtranny]

  Written by: xwesx on Jan 13, 2011 6:46:25 PM

  Other than her occasional need to belligerently run off from time to time (I think it is the husky in her - she's a racing (Alaska) husky & yellow lab cross), she is a great pup. I can't believe she's ten years old now. The trees are birch (Betula papyrifera), almost exclusively. There are some mature white and black spruce on that plot as well, but not so much in that ... Read More

Maintenance schedule ripoff?

• Maintenance schedule ripoff?

  Written by: boho on Nov 5, 2010 3:38:56 PM

  I have a 2009 Forester with 12,000 miles. I am old and drive it gently. I supposedly live in a "severe weather" region (Boulder CO) but that is false. Last winter here was milder than Pittsburgh and New York where I lived many years. Anyway, I brought in my car today for a 15-month maintenance. Instead of doing what the Subaru maintenance schedule lists they said I also had to change ... Read More

Warranty of 2010 Forester

• Re: Warranty of 2010 Forester [nasridine]

  Written by: xwesx on Nov 1, 2010 10:51:22 AM

  http://www.subaru.com/finance-center/warranties-2009.html Depending on why it is not working, it is possible you will have to foot the bill on the power outlet repair. If the cord that was plugged in is faulty, then the car is not to blame on this one. Have you used that cord with anything else? Is there any visible wear/damage on it?

Subaru Forester Air Conditioning Problems

• Re: 2009 Subaru Forester AC stopped working [samsuby]

  Written by: quark613 on Sep 28, 2010 10:21:01 PM

  I don't believe it for a minute. There's no way the compressor AND the compressor clutch are shot, and that figure is absurd. Take it to a reliable, independent mechanic.

• Re: 2009 Subaru Forester AC stopped working [samsuby]

  Written by: ateixeira on Sep 21, 2010 10:56:13 AM

  That is very, very unusual. I have heard that you should use the A/C once in a while to keep the seals lubricated. There's an additive in there that cycles around the system. $1400? Yikes! Call 800-SUBARU3 and tell them how new your car is. Be super-nice - you get more flies with honey. I used to work in a Help Desk so trust me on that one. Hopefully they will ... Read More

• 2009 Subaru Forester AC stopped working

  Written by: samsuby on Sep 21, 2010 9:09:11 AM

  Hi - have a 2009 Suby Forester with 47000 miles (mostly highway) and the air conditioner which isn't used all that much has stopped blowing cold air. I took it to my local dealer who informs me that the compressor doesn't work, the clutch doesn't function properly, etc. $1400++ to repair!! I live in No. California so AC doesn't get used constantly, but it gets at least weekly use in summer/early ... Read More

subaru transmission problems

• Re: Subaru transmission won't shift [bigfrank3]

  Written by: aatherton on Aug 19, 2009 7:24:46 AM

  "... this occurs it is because of the trans filter needing replacing. As the filter gets "used" and partially restrictive the hydraulic pressure to initiate the shift is lacking..." This does not help his 2007 Forester, but Subaru eliminated the transmission filter on the 2008 models, beginning in mid-year 2007. For 2008 they blanked off the filter opening with a wide threaded plug, and for 2009 the opening was cast closed. ... Read More

Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: My 2010 Forester 2.5x Deal - Good or Bad! [cjkbme2w]

  Written by: jogousa on Aug 17, 2010 9:57:14 AM

  At 3300 miles on my Forester XT I get about the same mileage as at the beginning. Not sure what is considered "broken in" mileage on Subaru ... - on my 2009 VW Tdi they say the car is broken in at 10,000 miles or more... only then you start getting a better MPG. As indicated earlier, I would stay away from K&N oiled air filters.

Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions

• Power steering fluid exchange

  Written by: rsilverman1 on Jul 16, 2010 4:06:49 PM

  I have a 2009 Forester with about 25K miles. For the past couple of oil services, the dealer recommends that the power steering fluid be changed. I repeatedly declined. He says it is brown. I have never changed power steering fluid in any Subaru (or car) that I have ever owned. It is not recommended in the Subaru manual. The reservoir is translucent plastic and so it it easy to see ... Read More

All-New 2010 Legacy/Outback

• Re: 3.6R Limited 2010 Legacy [frenchguy007]

  Written by: ateixeira on Jun 24, 2010 9:56:41 AM

  Everyone calls themselves premium. Heck, Suzuki pitches the Kizashi as a luxury performance sedan. Seriously. It doesn't even offer a V6 or a turbo. Subaru's true upscale march came in 2005-2006 and failed miserably (look at Tribeca sales). Everyone balked at the prices. Sales really took off in 2009 when the Forester arrived with value pricing (and a little de-contenting to be honest).

Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

• New Bluetooth Option for Forester - any model

  Written by: ateixeira on Apr 26, 2010 9:16:03 AM

  Well, I was wrong, and happy to admit it: 2010 Forester news and updates 2/7 new option - available starting February 2010, hands free cell phone bluetooth 'BlueConnect' now available on 2010 models with Clarion single disc stereo model #CP604U1 or Panasonic CH changer stereo model #PP644U6 installed after 9/2009. See image above. http://www.cars101.com/subaru/forester/forester2010.html#std%20features Cool, so you can get BT, no matter which of the 3 head units you choose.

• Re: possible outlander buyer-hoping the forum can help [newguy53]

  Written by: ateixeira on Apr 25, 2010 5:26:59 PM

  All the V6s were upgraded to 230hp output and Mitsubishi recommends premium fuel for best performance. It is not required, but timing will be retarded to prevent knock, so it won't produce the full 230hp with lower octane. As for the warranty, you are protected by the Magnussen-Moss Warranty Act. As long as the parts and service meets the manufacturer's specifications, the warranty is still valid. Keep receipts and service records ... Read More

• Re: possible outlander buyer-hoping the forum can help [newguy53]

  Written by: authurdent on Apr 25, 2010 5:13:48 PM

  Quick answer: Don't walk, but rather RUN to your local neighborhood Mitsubishi dealer and get yourself a shiny new Outlander! Seriously... here's my quick & dirty rundown of your top 4 candidates... CRV might be a fine car, but for me they're so ubiquitous to the point of nausea. Like the RAV4, I can go out my front porch and probably throw a rock at 3 or 4 CRVs. You *might* ... Read More

2009 Subaru Forester

• Re: 15k Maintenance [phdhusky]

  Written by: rich28 on Apr 22, 2010 1:25:12 PM

  I would recommend doing the cabin air filter replacement yourself. It's MUCH cheaper and very easy. You can get a replacement filter online. Subaru's price is outrageously high for something SO easy. Below is a link on how to do it. Note: you have to pull hard on the glove box one side at a time to get it off. I was afraid I was going to break something when I ... Read More

Towing with a Forester

• Re: Towing with a Forester [kayakingsue]

  Written by: jontautic on Apr 6, 2008 3:51:25 PM

  I'm buying a 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Premium but I will be using it to tow my jet ski. Total weight of the ski, with fuel and trailer is about 1,200 pounds and the trailer does not have trailer brakes...would this present a problem to tow or should I be fine?

Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

• Re: The Worst Small SUV Money Pits [authurdent]

  Written by: ateixeira on Mar 25, 2010 5:29:05 PM

  What drew me to Mitsubushi from the start was that there were so few on the road The original Forester was like that. Everyone was buying the 120hp CR-V and wimpy 2.0l RAV4, and Subaru came out with a 2.5l 165hp model that didn't fit the mold at all. It just never sold well. Sales took off when they introduced the 2009 model, so America simply loves it. lack of seat ... Read More

• Re: The Worst Small SUV Money Pits [ateixeira]

  Written by: chelentano on Mar 24, 2010 8:56:13 PM

  >> The F-XT has Active AWD, too, in fact that's what they call it in a brochure. You'd still have to score 1 instead of 0. You kidding right? Subaru “Active AWD” is just a marketing label. We don’t give score for a label. The Forester XT does not have active differential. It does not even have a basic LS differential since 2009 Forester was downgraded. >> HIDs are new, and ... Read More

Child Seat Placement in 2010 Forester

• Re: Child Seat Placement in 2010 Forester [golden2smith]

  Written by: ateixeira on Mar 23, 2010 9:56:43 AM

  Hmm, I have a 2009, but my kids had grown out of child seats and now use boosters. If it makes you feel better, the IIHS named Forester one of the very few Top Safey Picks in its class: SMALL SUVs Honda Element Jeep Patriot with optional side torso airbags Subaru Forester Volkswagen Tiguan http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ It does well even in the tough side impact test, which is where your child would ... Read More

Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

• Re: Units can vary [ateixeira]

  Written by: authurdent on Mar 18, 2010 10:52:50 AM

  To be fair, I've never driven a Subaru. My indifference towards the make comes more from being a passenger and not liking the ride or space. And unfortunately, there are quite a few people I wouldn't consider friends who happen to own Subarus (its like not wanting to name your kid after someone you didn't like in grade school). Anyway, more recent experiences sitting in 2010 Foresters and Outbacks have me ... Read More

• Re: Subaru Forester CR's Top Pick again [piast]

  Written by: p0926 on Feb 24, 2010 5:58:00 AM

  4TH PLACE: SUBARU FORESTER 2.5X PREMIUM PZEV Interesting. There's no doubt that Subaru isn't winning any points by sticking to a 4-speed auto but picking on its 170hp seems a bit much since it is still competitive (albeit no longer near the front of the pack). However, it's odd that while they did point out that the 2009 SUOTY was a turbo equipped Forester XT, they still felt compelled to judge ... Read More

• Re: Subaru Forester CR's Top Pick again [ateixeira]

  Written by: piast on Feb 23, 2010 7:09:04 PM

  Looks like some mags are starting to have second thoughts about their initial love with Forester. In recent MT small CUV comparison it came last (behind Terrain, new Tucson, and CRV.: "SPORT/UTILITY OF THE YESTERYEAR 4TH PLACE: SUBARU FORESTER 2.5X PREMIUM PZEV With archaic four-speed and basement power, the former champ shows its age. Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/112_1003_crossover_suv_comparison/specs- .html#ixzz0gPuL4ED8" Also, from MT March long-term test update of 2009 Forester: "The Forester seems ... Read More

• Re: AWD systems of the Subaru Forester vs. Acura MDX [kdshapiro]

  Written by: ateixeira on Feb 19, 2010 7:38:12 AM

  You'd be surprised, a lot of Subaru buyers can afford much more expensive cars but simply choose not to. In a way it's the opposite of "Bling", not flashy but rather reserved and understated. When Bling was in, the Hummer brand was hot and people added 22" DUB wheels. Now that the economy tanked, understated is en vogue. Hummer is all but dead, and Subaru grew the most in 2009. I'm ... Read More

All-New 2010 Legacy/Outback

• Re: Subaru Legacy, Honda CRV or Toyota Camry? [elena_l]

  Written by: ateixeira on Jan 26, 2010 10:56:36 AM

  The CR-V is more comparable to the Forester, right around the same size, as both are a bit shorter and more upright than the Outback. Forester actually beat the CR-V in residual value, and won "Best Compact Utility Vehicle" from Automotive Lease Guide, the company that sets actual residuals for leases. Outback won for "Best Midsize Utility Vehicle" as well. Subaru also won "Best Mainstream Brand", though I think Honda wasn't ... Read More

• Re: Subaru Legacy, Honda CRV or Toyota Camry? [doggrandma]

  Written by: jeffm5 on Jan 26, 2010 7:52:50 AM

  I've had a 2010 Outback, 4 cyl. Limited since late Oct. I have about 4,000 miles on it. We love it. Handles fine, including on ice/snow covered roads. Like the CVT tranny. While no race car, has enough power for our needs. You'll see talk on this thread about weak heat on your feet. I have noticed that. Not a big deal for me. I just let the car warm up ... Read More

• 2010 Outback 2.5 limited

  Written by: birdboy on Feb 6, 2010 9:21:08 AM

  I am happy to jump ship from the 2009 Forester forum to join this one. I just purchased my new Outback. My 2009 Forester had more rattles, squeaks and interior noises coming from everywhere in the cabin, thus making my experience with it extremely dissapointing. It did handle and drive beautifully which is why I bought another Subie. I find the outback fit and finish of the interior and exterior to ... Read More

Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2009 Forester 2.5XT Limited price [smovva]

  Written by: ateixeira on Jan 25, 2010 8:19:56 AM

  Nothing major, no. The Navi models got Bluetooth. The very early 2009s were LL Bean models, instead of Limiteds, but you're looking at a Limited anyway. Subaru also just announced the 2010 Limited will get a HID option, packaged with Navi for $2300. Not sure when those will arrive, though. If the 09 is a significantly better deal, go for it.

• Re: 2009 Forester 2.5XT Limited price [smovva]

  Written by: sgloon on Jan 24, 2010 12:30:27 AM

  These are a couple of things that come to mind off hand... There is a different heater box in the 2010, per Subaru employees. IF it was a very late run 09, it 'may' have the newer heater box. A few of the parts in the 2010 appear to be even cheaper/looser/etc. Some of the '09s didn't have the AWP [all weather package]. 2010s have slightly larger piece of plastic to ... Read More

Subaru Forester Lease Questions

• Early Lease Buyout

  Written by: travisdog on Sep 22, 2009 1:29:36 PM

  I'm 10 months into a 36 month lease on a 2009 Subaru Forester. I like the car alot and for financial reasons, am considering buying out the lease early from Chase. Has anyone had any prior experience with this and if so, what should I be looking at to determine if it's in my best interest to do so. Thanks.

Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

• Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Dec 23, 2009 10:49:50 AM

  What was on the cover? What month, I mean? I honestly didn't see that chart. I looked again at the January 2010 issue and saw something about Owner Satisfaction (Escape and Mariner Hybrids win the category). Maybe you saw a special edition/buyer's guide? I do have that, the "Buying Guide 2010" book and on page 172 they rate the 07 Outlander "Much Better than Average" but the 08 is merely "Average". ... Read More

All-New 2010 Legacy/Outback

• Re: When the weather outside is frightful, my OB is delightful! [sweetsoul]

  Written by: asdf9 on Dec 22, 2009 1:52:35 PM

  Is that car hot or what? My 2009 Forester is the best. I used to be stranded back in the rear-wheel drive days, when it snowed, but no more! A lot of people love their front wheel drives, but even they get in trouble when the snow falls. AWD is the only option. Unless you live out in Los Angeles and even then, I would keep my subaru.

Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

• Con Rod Bearings (cont'd)

  Written by: ateixeira on Dec 21, 2009 7:31:29 AM

  "Kamloops Rich" also got a full engine replacement and a 100k warranty on the new one, that was handled by Subaru of Canada in 10 days. So SoC wasn't as quick as SoA at handling his. VIN range for affected Foresters begins with 9*700001 and ends with 9*700139. Consumer Reports dinged the 2009 Foreser, rightfully so. Even though that is a very small percentage of production, it's a serious problem and ... Read More

• Re: ALG Residual Value Awards [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Dec 21, 2009 6:43:45 AM

  If we browse throgh the Mitsubishi USA site, we won’t find much info what else is happening there: the description is very basic Agreed 100%, and by the way Subaru's web site is no different. Plus it doesn't help that Subaru puts the same "Symmetrical AWD" label on at least 3 distinct AWD systems. I can say that the system on our 09 Forester was very effective getting us around in ... Read More

• Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [ateixeira]

  Written by: chelentano on Dec 18, 2009 8:24:33 PM

  >> Once PSA takes over, how long will they keep allowing MMNA to lose money before they close shop? PSA doesn’t “take over”, they just buy a stake. And PSA more than Mitsu interested in getting into NA market, just as FIAT interested. Mitsu’s N. American market sales are tiny vs. the Mitsu the rest of the world sales so they can afford giving cars away for free in N.A. just ... Read More

Subaru Reliability

• Re: Door rattles [xwesx]

  Written by: gdoc on Dec 13, 2009 9:29:10 AM

  For me it's the cargo cover. When it is extended to cover up items in the back, it rattles over every bump. When it is unlatched and the contents of the back or open to view, it rattles worse. I was thinking of putting some felt or something to help. I could get the rattling to happen just by using my fist and thumping on the door panel from the inside. ... Read More

Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions

• BURNING WINTER TIRES?

  Written by: wideopenslope on Dec 8, 2009 6:13:57 PM

  I installed brand new winter tires on my 2009 Subaru Forester about two weeks ago. The tires came from tirerack.com, mounted and balanced on brand new wheels. I noticed: 1- a slight unbalanced-like vibration as soon as I started driving after they were installed. 2- a more than slight burning rubber smell during a quick stop after 200 miles on a highway. 3- mileage dropped 4mpg from usual all season tire ... Read More

Subaru Forester Lease Questions

• Re: I need you help please! =) [gigoypotpot]

  Written by: Car_man on Sep 1, 2009 3:08:21 AM

  Hey gigoypotpot. See my previous post for the difference between the money factors for 24 and 36 month leases of this model. As far as its residual values go, Subaru's August 24 month, 15,000 mile per year resid for a 2009 Forester 2.5X was 59%. The resid for an otherwise identical 36 month lease was 53%. I believe that the 12,000 mile per year residual values for this model would be ... Read More

• Re: I need you help please! =) [gigoypotpot]

  Written by: Car_man on Sep 1, 2009 2:53:44 AM

  Hi gigoypotpot. I can understand why you wouldn't want anything longer than a two year lease, but it just doesn't make sense to lease any Subaru for two years right now. Subaru is not really providing much in the way of support on two year leases right now. As a result, lessees who go with a two year deal have to pay a much higher interest rate than those who go ... Read More

Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

• Re: best in class per category [ateixeira]

  Written by: chelentano on Dec 4, 2009 3:25:01 PM

  >> That's not all - you can buy green HID headlight kit. Sure you can complain about Mitsu HID colors , when Forester does not offer any HID :-) . >> Also, the headliner is odor-absorbing, so your flatulence actually does not smell bad! Oh, I see, so if you drive Subaru, then your flatulence does smell bad. :) "You can't make this stuff up." . >> PS Forester resale is ... Read More

Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• hello jing!

  Written by: asdf9 on Dec 3, 2009 1:37:21 PM

  Hey jing, you still looking? Before you go to stamford, don't count out branford and Premier Subaru! Premier is a great dealership and it's where I bought my 2009 Forester. The extra drive will be worth it let me tell you. If we get snow this winter bring it on! You new forester drivers haven't lived till you've taken the car out in a winter storm! I mean I use to ... Read More

2009 Subaru Forester

• Re: 2009/2010 Forester 2.5 with manual trans RPMs [hrs3]

  Written by: ateixeira on Nov 25, 2009 10:28:48 AM

  You'll find all the gear ratios here: http://www.cars101.com/subaru/forester/forester2010.html The XT is geared tallest. It has the taller final drive ratio of the 2.5x manual, combined with the tallest overdrive gear of the 2.5 automatic. If you want UBER-tall gearing get an Outback CVT. At 80mph it's barely idling along at a hair over 2000rpm.

Subaru Forester VS Toyota RAV4

• Re: Subaru Forester VS Toyota RAV4 [luv2golf]

  Written by: ateixeira on Nov 23, 2009 7:59:00 AM

  Each has its pros and cons. For reference, we own a 2009 Forester 2.5X Limited with the PZEV 175hp engine, and also a 2007 Sienna with the 2GR-FE V6 engine that goes in the RAV4. Are you shopping the base engines, or V6 vs. turbo? The Forester is efficient and very easy to drive. Considering it's shorter than a Chevy Cobalt coupe, you get tons of room. The seat backs fold ... Read More

Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

• Re: 2010 vs. 2009 [ateixeira]

  Written by: chelentano on Nov 22, 2009 1:12:48 PM

  >> how you were driving around with 4 year old maps, and you were OK with that? Why would I care? I have never ran into a new road. Outlander uses Navteq maps – the same map vendor as most of manufacturers: acura, audi, benz, bmw, caddi, LR, jag, infi, mazd, niss, vw, volvo and more. And they all get updates at the same time. I don’t think it’s 4 years. ... Read More

• Re: Outlander vs. aftermarket accessories [ateixeira]

  Written by: chelentano on Nov 19, 2009 6:36:43 PM

  >>I see, things only matter when Mitsubishi has the edge. When you think Forester has an edge you talk about it. But when you see there no edge you talk about aftermarket accessories. There is really no edge except for large sun roof, which by the way eliminates that good roof safety test. . >> Safety means nothing to you now? It did a day or two ago. You r talking ... Read More

• Re: Do It Yourself [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Nov 17, 2009 4:04:11 AM

  Yea, sure, I know Admit it, you did not know about Subaru's diesel engine. Otherwise why did you mention it on your list of things Subaru doesn't offer that Mitsubishi does? Have you ever thought why Lexus and Benz don’t use your “the real thing” in their luxury SUVs? Because those aren't the sportier manufacturers in that segment. BMW offers a true manual in the X3. RX350? Please...I own a Toyota, ... Read More

• Re: Do It Yourself [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Nov 17, 2009 3:47:59 AM

  Global car sales are down for everyone, Subaru's drop is less than most, and your data is already outdated (more on that later). Plus, the topic here is the Forester, which is doing great. Vehicles like the Tribeca, with a too-small 3rd row and no side curtain air bags to protect those occupants (sound familiar?), have caused the overall drop for Subaru, not the Forester. A timely article: Subaru: Japan's Hottest ... Read More

• Re: Do It Yourself [ateixeira]

  Written by: chelentano on Nov 16, 2009 4:42:05 PM

  >> The rest of your post waters things down by comparing Mitsu corporate to FHI. Subaru of America, where both of us live, is on a huge roll... 'Subaru of America' does not build cars. It’s just a marketing office and sales numbers by local market/season may be misleading for the company health. The fact is that worldwide Fuji / Subaru sales decline every year: from 597,000 cars in 2008 to ... Read More

• Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Nov 16, 2009 6:03:19 AM

  Dual-Clutch auto-manual True, but it's a shame the dual-clutch SST transmission didn't make it to the US-spec Outlander GT, though. Keep in mind that vehicle starts at $31 grand, and that's with cloth and no Navi. Plus - Mitsu said it was coming. may be it's not in the top 2 anymore, but top 3 or 5 Actually no, it did not make the top 6 in its class. The rest ... Read More

• Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [ateixeira]

  Written by: chelentano on Nov 15, 2009 10:19:43 PM

  >> Mitsu got their CVT first, kudos, Subaru's is due out soon. Soon! Who cares for CVT? This is old tech for cheap cars. Mitsu has been already selling cars with modern smooth 6-speed auto, and Dual-Clutch auto-manual, paddle shifters and neutral logic. . >> But keep in mind our tried-and-true Forester is on CR's most reliable list, and Mitsubishi, while deserving credit for getting their CVT to market, dropped out ... Read More

• Re: Chase Freedom Rewards [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Nov 14, 2009 9:48:18 PM

  forced to buy Subaru with its dated 4-speed transmission again Mitsu got their CVT first, kudos, Subaru's is due out soon. Slushboxes are indeed dated - even with gimmicky manual shift modes. Remember they offer a stick shift, though. But keep in mind our tried-and-true Forester is on CR's most reliable list, and Mitsubishi, while deserving credit for getting their CVT to market, dropped out of that reliable list. In fact ... Read More

• Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Oct 27, 2009 8:34:23 AM

  I kinda doubt the Sante Fe uses the same system as the Porsche 911...maybe the same type of system. Not too long ago the 911 Turbo employed a viscous coupling like Subaru's MT system. In fact, with a boxer engine, a Subaru is more or less like a 911 driven backwards. :D Automatic Foresters still always send some power to the rear axles (10 or 20%, depending on who you ask), ... Read More

• Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [ateixeira]

  Written by: chelentano on Oct 26, 2009 10:21:36 PM

  >> Hyundai's system is FWD based and on-demand only, rather than always engaged. It's a pretty basic system, AFAIK. Majority of Foresters (which are equipped with 4-speed auto transmission) are also a FWD biased with on-demand torque to rear wheals. Only a manual transmission based Forester has real full time AWD. Hyundai has a decent Borg Warner based AWD system: it uses Multi-plate clutch coupling - which is also installed on ... Read More

• Re: Advantages only count when it helps Mitsubishi [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Nov 5, 2009 4:04:27 AM

  EVO is off topic here, and besides, that Edmunds track test you keep referring to summed it up right up front: Is the 2010 Mitsubishi Outlander GT the Evo of crossovers? Not really It's 0-60? 7.9 seconds. YAWN! My minivan suddenly seems fast. I “bail” on my car every couple of years to try something new and exciting 7.9 seconds is not exciting, now I know why you didn't buy the ... Read More

• Re: 2.5 X Forester 2010 with Touring Package vs. 2010 Chevy Equinox [chelentano]

  Written by: yvr1 on Oct 29, 2009 4:29:12 PM

  I went to the Mitsubishi Canada website. The first thing that struck me was how similar the body shape of the Outlander is to the Forester and the Outlander. I wonder whether the designers were the same. It’s interesting in reading the reviews on the Outlander that critics think that it’s exterior styling is great but most don’t think too much of the Forester’s. I then compared features for the 2.5 ... Read More

• Re: Advantages only count when it helps Mitsubishi [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Nov 4, 2009 8:35:21 AM

  Outlander does slalom much faster and tows much more We shopped 4 cylinder models, non-turbo (so did the OP by the way), and the Forester actually tows more. It can meet that 2400# requirement someone just asked about, but the 4 banger Mitsu cannot. The V6 can, but again, this is a split decision. The slalom was impressive but was that pre-production? Lowered? Summer tires? Let's see full road test from ... Read More

2009 Subaru Forester

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [billwv]

  Written by: johnv on Nov 3, 2009 8:36:49 PM

  Seems like this might not apply to the 2008 Forester. At least mysubaru doesn't mention it for mine (yet...) I still need to take mine in for the 11-89-08 TSB reflash related to revving. Is there anything special the car wants when it is in "learning" mode after an ECU reflash? More highway miles, the regular stop-n-go mix, or ?

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [ateixeira]

  Written by: xwesx on Nov 3, 2009 5:00:58 PM

  Sure enough; that was the letter.

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [xwesx]

  Written by: ateixeira on Nov 3, 2009 1:24:16 PM

  Wifey got that same letter, in a non-PZEV state, so you'll get it soon, I bet. We'll do ours at the next oil change.

Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

• Re: 2.5 X Forester 2010 with Touring Package vs. 2010 Chevy Equinox [ateixeira]

  Written by: chelentano on Oct 29, 2009 8:49:48 PM

  >> Too bad Mitsu doesn't offer a manual tranny here. Why, “too bad”? You did not even buy manual Forester? I can’t imagine you would be buying manual Outlander. >> I'd like to see Mitsu sell a Ralliart sportback - is that combination offered? Not to my knowledge, but Mitsu will be offering a smaller SUV 1.8L turbo combined with Mitsubishi's Twin Clutch SST gearbox and an AWD system. http://blogs.thecarconnection.com/marty-blog/1037414_mitsubishi-previews-new-com- - ... Read More

2009 Subaru Forester

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [billwv]

  Written by: xwesx on Nov 2, 2009 5:07:10 PM

  Thanks, Bill. Your post prompted me to go check my mail (which I do about once a week), and I, too, had a notice of some kind (have not opened it) in there. I am not sure why they did not just email me....

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [xwesx]

  Written by: billwv on Nov 2, 2009 3:04:49 PM

  All states -- Got my notice in the mail today - -WV a non PZEV required state. Bill

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [Den5276]

  Written by: xwesx on Nov 2, 2009 2:06:46 PM

  I wonder why I have not received anything. Perhaps they are sending it to folks in PZEV-required states only?

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [billwv]

  Written by: Den5276 on Nov 2, 2009 1:49:02 PM

  Got mine saturday and have made the appointment. It has to have a 'puter software download performed to make the boo boo better.

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [billwv]

  Written by: xwesx on Nov 1, 2009 12:56:29 PM

  I have not yet received the message, but I will keep a lookout for it. I have to take the car in to address a couple door rattles anyway, so we can make a day of it. ;)

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [kurtamaxxxguy]

  Written by: billwv on Nov 1, 2009 6:55:14 AM

  Only applies to PZEV, viz" "Service Program WVM-23 (2006 - 2009 Legacy / Outback or 2008 - 2010 Forester 2.5L with PZEV) " bill

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [billwv]

  Written by: kurtamaxxxguy on Oct 31, 2009 9:35:28 PM

  have not had any email yet wrt the cat converter. Mine's '09 XT.

• Re: 2009 subaru forester recall [pharmd718]

  Written by: billwv on Oct 31, 2009 8:28:11 PM

  I got the same email-- Doesn't sound urgent... Any ideas on what the reprogramming will consist of? I think I'll wait until I know more about it. Hopefully including input from this forum. Bill

• 2009 subaru forester recall

  Written by: pharmd718 on Oct 31, 2009 1:44:53 PM

  Just got this email from Subaru: During a quality review, we discovered that under certain severe driving patterns, such as high speed highway/uphill driving and/or accelerating with high engine revolutions, the efficiency of your vehicle’s catalytic converter may begin to degrade beyond design parameters. (The “Check Engine” light will illuminate to alert you if the catalytic converter efficiency has degraded beyond an acceptable level and if your vehicle may be releasing ... Read More

Mitsubishi Outlander vs. Subaru Forester

• Re: 2.5 X Forester 2010 with Touring Package vs. 2010 Chevy Equinox [yvr1]

  Written by: chelentano on Oct 29, 2009 9:27:23 PM

  >> The first thing that struck me was how similar the body shape of the Outlander is to the Forester and the Outlander. I wonder whether the designers were the same. I wonder myself. Even steering wheels look like twins. >> Firstly, I'm not interested in the turbo Forester XT. Despite a lot of people on the Forester forums saying that it makes for a much better vehicle, the 4 cylinder ... Read More

• Re: 2.5 X Forester 2010 with Touring Package vs. 2010 Chevy Equinox [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Oct 29, 2009 10:29:07 AM

  Too bad Mitsu doesn't offer a manual tranny here. Subaru and Suzuki do, but the option is all too rare. I'd like to see Mitsu sell a Ralliart sportback - is that combination offered? I have yet to see an EVO sportback on the roads but that would certainly appeal more to me if I wanted something truly sporty. 18 city /24 on GT vs. 19/24 on XT, not even worth ... Read More

• Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [chelentano]

  Written by: ateixeira on Oct 28, 2009 8:43:04 AM

  Borg Warner supplies that same system to Chrysler Corp, used in the Dodge Caliber and Jeep Compass. Note that the Compass is the only Jeep that's not Trail Rated. I'm sure any systems they supply to Porsche would meet very different duty requirements.

• Re: 2010 Subaru Forester 2.5 X Touring Package (Canada) vs. 2009 Santa Fe GLS [kipk]

  Written by: ateixeira on Oct 27, 2009 10:47:45 AM

  The 07 sinks in a lot deeper and needed a push to get unstuck. The 09 got out on its own. The 09's traction control system also allowed less wheel spin, the effort to get moving is always more controlled. This is far more than 99.9% of owners will ever subject them to.