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I am curious which you ended up with. I am trying to decide between a 2011 TL or a 2010 MKZ. I have been driving Lincoln LS's for the last 10 years, so I now what features I get from Lincoln that are in excess of what Acura base cars provide. My concern is the residual value. Looks like the Acura beats the MKZ by about $1500. My concern is the ... Read More
I chose my Zephyr over the Lexus ES for because I could get it w/o a moonroof (I'm 6'3"), it ran on regular gas and it offered great value. It's no longer the value it was and Lexus is retuning their product line to run on regular (the 2011 ES drops 4-6 HP but, recommends regular fuel). The gas thing was one advantage the MKZ had over it's competition but, now ... Read More
It is not that easy, Allen. Ford knows more or less what the Ford brand is about, and has learned some hard lessons. The Five Hundred's styling was a really awful idea, and transforming it into the 08 Taurus just wasted more limited funds. Thankfully, they got right to work on the 2010 Taurus. They also screwed up with the Flex, in that they took the Fairlane concept that in production ... Read More
Let's agree to disagree. Anyway, it keeps the board lively. A more important topic - does anyone have sales figures for 2010 Lincoln? A few weeks back when Ford announced pulling the plug on Mercury, I read in the USA today that through June, Mercury had only sold 82,000 units. And I'm quoting here, "But Mercury is still outselling the struggling Lincoln brand." OMG! How bad is it? Lincoln is a ... Read More
2010 Lincoln MKZ-After driving thruway speeds for approx 6 hours,evaporator freezes up.Give it 30 min to thaw and it's back to normal til next 6 hour hiway run.Anyone had this prob. My dealer is talking to Ford engineering for solutions.
Hi kam41765. Ford Credit's current base lease rate and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2010 Limcoln MKZ AWD with 18,000 miles per year are 0.25% and 54%, respectively. This car's 36 month numbers are 2.5% and 46%. Its 39 month numbers are 2.75% and 44%. I believe that 18,000 miles per year is the highest mileage allowance that Ford Credit publishes residual values for. If you need ... Read More
Lincoln's bread and butter volume car is MKZ. And it is really funny how Ford does not care about MKZ. There are no LM dealerships left in SF bay area. And most of Ford dealerships have only couple of MKZ, what kind of volume car it is if there is no cars in dealership. San Leandro Ford has only one MKZ, Fremont Ford has three and two of them sit there ... Read More
Cadillac's success in November was with the SRX which accounted for over a third of their sales. Their passenger car sales were down. They did have a slight uptick with the DTS, a car for which Lincoln has no competitor. No question Ford is focusing more on the Ford brand. The Fusion and Fusion Hybrid are excellent cars and are doing well. They have had excellent press, too. Focus and Escape ... Read More
I expect this is a precursor to what we can expect from the next MKZ. The gallery pics with the Lincoln steering wheel are from the 2011 MKX debuting next week at the Detroit Auto Show. The Ford pictures are from the 2011 Edge. Any doubt Ford and Lincoln are headed in the right direction? I expect an iPhone app that will save your personal preferences and load them automatically to ... Read More
I don't know, but I doubt that the Milan is going away any time soon. The MKZ seems more likely to either fade away, or evolve into something relevant. The Ford brand is becoming more like VW...a brand that can cover a wide audience (even the cheapest VW has expensive looking interior appointments, and vehicles like the CC and Touareg appeal to people who want a bit more than entry level ... Read More
Couldn't agree with you more concerning Lincoln (especially the MKZ). I own a Zephyr and I am quite happy with it's durability. I am very disappointed, however, in the 2010 MKZ. I'm sure it's also very durable (Ford is making some pretty reliable cars). Unfortunately, the styling of the 2010 is very forgettable, the interior is sub par for that price group and the car is overpriced. Ford is just not ... Read More
All GM core brands were up in sales Nov to Nov. Lincoln continues to be down, and that is very bad, considering how bad Nov 2008 sales were. I give Lincoln credit for trying different things, but they are just not hitting any marks yet. The popularity of the new Cadillac SRX, along with the CTS wagon and the stunning CTS coupe will not help Lincoln (for those who are looking ... Read More
I'm currently leasing a 2007 Mercury Milan set to expire in 6 months. I am looking to upgrade to the 2010 Lincoln MKZ. I have 6 months of payments remaining of $307.34 for the Milan ($1844.04). Here is what I was quoted for a loaded MKZ with Nav Package, Ultimate Package, Technology Package, 17" Chrome Rims, Moonroof, Rapid Spec 103A: -They will pay my 6 remaining months on Milan - They ... Read More
Hi jimmydean7. Here's the information that you're looking for. Ford Credit's current base lease rate and residual value for a 39 month lease of a 2010 Lincoln MKZ 2WD with 15,000 miles per year are 2.25% and 46%, respectively. As you can see, this is right in line with what you were quoted. I don't believe that Ford is currently providing any cash incentives on leases of this car. The $6,000 ... Read More
I finally am getting closer to buying a car. It is between an 2009 Acura TL Tech and a 2010 Lincoln MKZ. I requested internet quotes from several of the local Detroit Acura dealers and only one from a local Lincoln dealer for an ultimate pkg MKZ. I received good honest out the door quotes from the Acura dealers via internet. The Lincoln dealer (Hines Park) gave me an awesome price, ... Read More
"Any extra plant capacity not used by the MKZ can be filled with Fusions and Milans which are selling quite well." I have a great idea. Let's stop making the MKZ altogether. That way ALL capacity can be devoted to the Fusion and Milan. You seem to be fixated on the idea that Ford isn't interested in selling any MKZs. Perhaps you are correct but, I think Ford better be interested ... Read More
I have no idea what will happen to Lincoln (or Mercury but, that 's for another day) over the next few years. One thing is for sure. To once again become relevant, they have to start selling cars in significant numbers. Right now, this just isn't happening. The MKS has been out for some time now and I've seen two. The MKZ has been out for 4 months and I have ... Read More
Hi b0ywonda. Here's the information that you're looking for. Ford Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 Lincoln MKZ with 12,000 miles per year are 3.5% and 50%, respectively. When negotiating your lease, make sure to take the $1,000 bonus cash that Lincoln is currently providing on this car into account. Good luck in your quest for a new ride ... Read More
Hi sammys. Here's the information that you're looking for. Ford Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 Lincoln MKZ AWD with 15,000 miles per year are 4.0% and 49%, respectively. When negotiating your lease on this car, make sure to take the $1,400 bonus cash that is currently available on it into account. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing ... Read More
Waiting in the mailbox Friday was a package from L-M. It contained a simple brochure on the entire Lincoln line with an offer of $750 back if I purchased, specifically, the new MKZ. I believed rebates/incentives would be coming but, I didn't think just 4 weeks after intro. Doesn't look good. I went back to the L-M dealership to have another look, in case I could be persuaded when the big ... Read More
Well here's another one. Automotive Addicts test drove the 2010 MKZ and came away very impressed. Your Thoughts Automotive Addicts review of the 2010 Lincoln MKZ
I had the same issue with the Edge and MKX. I've owned a LS and an Aviator and generally prefer the Lincoln versions. But after looking at the MKX I concluded the only difference that mattered to us were the cooled seats and that wasn't worth the $6K price difference. I actually preferred the Edge dash over the MKX. Given the 2010 MKZ was just a mid cycle refresh, I think ... Read More
More and more, it seems as though the consensus on this board is that the 2010 MKZ is over priced. No reason to think that the buying public will think anything different. My wife saw the MKZ sitting next to the Milan and wondered about the price difference, too. In her mind, the styling differences and badge weren't worth the extra dollars. I believe akirby has said the Z offers more ... Read More
IMO, the new grill and tail lights are an improvement. The old grill was too pedestrian, too anonymous. The new tail lights are more like the Lincoln signature, going almost (but not quite...don't know why they didn't extend them all the way) across the back. Your complaint about the interior is mostly about color. Some people prefer black interiors, but I don't like them either. Too much black, but to each ... Read More
Carman: On several car forums, there appears a Competitive Bonus Incentive listed as follows "Bonus Cash Lincoln Mercury 2010 Ford Credit Competitive Lease Conquest #32888-National" ($1000.) I currently coming off a lease of a Lexus and am considering the '10 MKZ. I've e-mailed 2 dealers inquiring about the above "incentive. One indicated that I had to have a direct "mailing" offer from Ford in order to qualify. The 2nd dealer stated ... Read More
I agree rebates will be needed to sell this car. The local Lincoln dealer has been moving the current generation well over a year by advertising it at $26K. The 2010 will have to find its way into this territory to move as well. That being said, the MKZ in a sub $30K territory will be very attractive against the family sedan competition and should have really its eyes set on ... Read More
Hi faellaf. Here's the information that you're looking for. Ford Credit's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 Lincoln MKZ FWD with 10,000 miles per year are 2.0% and 51%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 39 month lease are 2.25% and 49%. Ford is not currently providing any cash incentives on leases of this car, but I am sure that it ... Read More
That seems like a reasonable and prudent approach.
A good review and about what I would expect to be said about it..though I disagree that the new tail lights are ugly. I think they are quite an improvement over the previous ones, and have moved a bit closer to what Lincoln tail lights will look like on future models. That said, I do wish Ford would take the Hyundai approach (it was also the Lexus approach years ago) of ... Read More
This is more like it! Some activity on this board. Lincoln can sure use the interest. In a previous post, I pointed out that the highway mileage is down. Does anyone know why? Seems like the tweaking and, from what I understand a new tranny, would have created better mileage. Also, some posters have waxed royally about the jukebox thing. I still like the changer but, I'm open minded. Supposedly, this ... Read More
Hmm....been needing to replace my '96 ES, but the new ES doesn't do much for me, and the previous MXZ styling was not so hot. The new one is much improved. I'll have to take a look.
Well this will make some peopels brain hurt. the 2010 Lincoln MKZ is as nice as a Lexus350, About.car:com review of the 2010 Lincoln MKZ This is going to stir things up a bit.
I don't think I've needed to parallel park in at least 15 years. I can't even think of any place around me that even has parallel parking spaces available. But I do think it's neat. I think rather than gripe about what the MKS doesn't have (yet) that we should applaud Ford for not holding back on the Taurus features. In the past that would not have happened. That's a good ... Read More
Remember that the 2010 Fulan is significantly quieter than it was (adopting much of the 07-09 MKZ noise suppression). LIncoln did make the 10 MKZ quieter than the 09 though. The 2010 3.0 liter is much improved over the 09, and the hp gap between that and the 3.5 is now far less. Plus, the same 3.5 is now available in the Fusion. None of the engines sound refined under hard ... Read More
akirby, thanks for the response to my post. I don't quite understand it though. You said to "get my facts straight." Exactly which facts were not straight? I said you can no longer get the Nav with a 6 CD changer - THAT'S A FACT. You consider the MP3/jukebox thing to be better - that is nothing more than your opinion. All that only works if one has the equipment, knowhow, ... Read More
Lincoln has improved the MKZ quite a bit since Zephyr days. However, the MKZ drives like a Fusion Sport--without so much sport. Behind the wheel, it does not feel significantly diffferent from other reasonably equipped, non-luxury mid-sizers like the Fusion and Malibu. For the kind of coin they charge, the "feel" from behind the wheel should distinguish this model more. I'm afraid that until Lincoln has the resources and time to ... Read More
Think I'll take some time to vent some more. First of all, since we take the time & effort to post here, it's safe to assume we all actually want Lincoln to succeed. This is the only format we have to let the idiots at Ford know what they need to do to once again acheive profitability. Too bad they don't listen. Anyway, in my previous post, I stated I would ... Read More
Good post! I can't help but be a little disappointed in the new MKZ. Some subtle exterior changes and an overall nicer interior but, I don't think these changes will interest those that didn't care for the original Zephyr/MKZ. And Ford continues to fall just short of what they need to do to pull equal to the target competition. Did you note that the new MKZ only offers 7 exterior colors ... Read More
Can you provide me with the Residual percentage and the Money rates for the 2010 Lincoln MKZ FWD? I'd like them for 36mo and 39mo/10Kmiles. lease. Also, are there any possible "lease" incentives coming down the line? Thanks
They must still muddle through with the overall Fusion shape for a couple more years. Pricing it that close to the ES350 is presumptuous at this point..I wish them luck with that. But it does now look a bit more like a Lincoln, and I believe the new interior is more quiet than even the MKS. Should help a little bit to keep Lincoln in play. Now they need to upggrade ... Read More
MT First drive of the 2010 MKZ Your thoughts
It's too bad Ford doesn't have the resources right now to make an MKZ hybrid, by either adding some hp to the Fusion 4 cylinder setup or hybridizing the 3 liter. The only way Lincoln is really going to come back is by providing vehicles that really stand out from the crowd some way. The MKS and MKZ are decent efforts, but so are most of the competitive models out there. ... Read More
Most of your points are well-taken. However, why would anyone buy a BMW 5 series (or MB E Class) when the 3 series (or C Class) is available? Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Volvo, etc. all try to make their variously sized cars resemble one another, rather than the disparate soup of unrelated-looking offerings Lincoln has had for the past decade. The intent is to get back some family resemblance and brand recognition ... Read More
Hi Gregg, Yes I've read about the improvements to the 2010 MKZ and the styling is similar to its big brother, the MKS. I don't do enough driving to justify the additional expense of the Milan Hybrid which is particularly useful in stop and go big city traffic. I've had Mercury cars before, the Grand Marquis, but I no longer need a full size car. This will be my first Lincoln ... Read More
You are right, quite impressive. Details on the 2010 MKZ here: http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2008/11/22/255167.html
First, I'm a bit surprised that there has been no discussion here of the newly revealed 2010 MKZ at the LA Auto Show last week. It looks much better than the current model IMO, a sporty more aggressive look. The interior is also a whole lot better. I'm very much interested in buying one when they are available next March. However it appears that prices have not yet been released to ... Read More
Good to hear about the suspension. Always better to have a choice than not to have a choice. However, if the current MKZ suspension becomes the standard suspension with an option for an even stiffer one, I'll be looking elswhere for my 2010. After riding in my friend's ES, I won't accept a ride that doesn't measure up. If I want a taut suspension, low profile tires and "sporty" handling, I'll ... Read More
According to the order guide the 2010 lincoln MKZ will have blind spot monitor, a backup camera, selectshift transmission, adaptive headlamps, a split wing grill as well as a interior more in tune with the MKS. Their will also be a optional sport model that has taunter suspension settings. The engine option just says V6 so its not known if it the 3.7 or not. http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=8002
Lincoln needs to equip the 2010 MKZ with a 3.7 that produces 300-315 hp in order to be competitve with other cars in its segment. This along with a hybrid option in the future should give it even more first time, conquest and reapeat buyers
So how soon can we expect a Lincoln MKZ that does not use the Fusion body? This one has the MKS style interior, and a (rather timid) interpretation of the MKR grill. Still looks a lot like a Fusion with a Lincoln style grill. And what's with the tail lights? I thought Lincoln's new design language would include full width ones. Now every Lincoln model appears to go its own way ... Read More
I could not find that interior shot but here are some shots of the 2010 MKZ: http://www.leftlanenews.com/lincoln-mkz-future.html http://www.leftlanenews.com/cars/image_popup/imagegallery3.php?postid=8982&galle- rynum=0&defimage=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.leftlanenews.com%2Fimageresizeronfly%2FphpT- humb.php%3Fsrc%3D%2Fcontent%2Faugust2008%2Flincoln-mkz-inside-2.jpg# The shots are not very impressive however.
While I admit Lincoln probably did need to go modern with there interior design, I will miss the retro MKZ interior. It just needed some better materials and better center console. The MKZ interior design always stands out in my mind. If interior images of the MKZ, TL, ES, G35, CTC were to flash by you for a quarter of a second, the MKZ is the only one you'd probably be ... Read More
As expected - totally new interior that is more conventional looking. The insider description of a "mini-MKS" looks to be spot on. Let's hope the materials and features are also MKS like. Sorry - can't link to it. You'll have to copy and paste this into your browser. http://images.leftlanenews.com/imageresizeronfly/phpThumb.php?src=/content/augus- - - t2008/lincoln-mkz-inside-1.jpg&w=800
You would purchase the 2009 because it will offer stability control, and be a much better deal than the 2010. The differences will be superficial anyway...an allegedly better interior and the new split grill.
What is up with 2010 models in January? Why would anyone purchase a 2009 besides price. Sounds like the 2010 would be the one to get.
More like wild guesses - there is nothing to really suggest that's a hybrid. It's possible for the 2010 model that goes on sale in January but nothing official or unofficial from Ford yet.
The 2009 goes into production next month for a 6 month run. The 2010 models get the refresh and will be on sale in January 2009. The 2009 models will get stability control but that's about it other than color changes. The 2010 model is supposed to get a new grille and interior very similar to the MKS.
I have to agree with you CG reference the quality of the Lincoln and getting 'big-bank' for the bucks. I purchased the base model of Zephyr last year for 28k. That was 2k less than the Chrysler 300 I purchased 6 years prior. Now I plan on getting th MKZ fully loaded and so far I expect to spend around 35k with my Ford X-plan pricing. If you price out the ... Read More
And what does it matter if a car shares a platform with a corporate sibling, particularly if the quality of the sibling is very good. Of course it may not matter at all. It is all in the execution. If you read my post, you would note that I liked the old Continental, even though it was based on a "lowly" Fairmont. What Lincoln did was give it enough attention to ... Read More
ANT: THanks for the info. I have some comments and questions which you are free to of course answer or ignore or say you can't answer. - Emm Kay Ess: Yes, might be as big inside and in trunk as TC but it's not a "full size" car in the manner of the TC and GM and CV is it? Blue hairs won't like it, I think I can guarantee. And ... Read More
I think AK may be right about what many car buyers consciously notice in terms of similarity. But scooter's point is right on. People still get a sense whether or not something is topnotch or not, even if they cannot point out the 1998 body panel. There has been groupthink going on at Ford that has not allowed them to see that the customer's lack of detailed (enthusiast) eye does not ... Read More
That is a point. But there is another point. Rangers were still selling very well in 1998, when Ford last did a major update to it. If they had also updated the conservative, long-in-the-tooth body shell in 1998 (along with the good changes they did underneath), they would not now be trying to sell such a pteradactyl when Chevy, GM, Dodge, Toyota and Nissan all have since updated their small pickups. ... Read More
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