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4555 Mission Bay Dr, San Diego, CA 92109 (map)
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Mossy Toyota Pawns off Defective Vehicle hold me in Arbitration Purgatory
Written by jonprz on 04/22/2013
updated 08/05/2025

[non-permissible content removed] My name is Jon Perz. I'm from San Diego, where I have worked as a clerk for a major world wide retailer for over 24 years. Thank you for having this hearing and for inviting me to testify. In 2007, I purchased a “certified” used 2002 Ford Escort for $12,000 from Mossy Toyota. When I took it for a test drive, I noticed a vibration, and asked about it. They said that the idler needed to be adjusted and they could take care of it if I brought it back the next day. At that time, I had been a loyal customer of Mossy Toyota for over 6 years. They are the most prominent dealership in town, with nearly a dozen dealerships. The car came with a 90-day, 3,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty and I also purchased an extended warranty. I had no idea then that the contract I signed included a clause -- on the back -- that took away my Constitutional rights and required any dispute to be submitted to an arbitration program chosen and paid for by Mossy Toyota. When I took the car back for repairs, I was taken aback by their change in attitude. I found out later that Mossy knew about the vibration problem before they sold the car to me, and knew they could not fix it. They claimed that the vibration was "normal" and didn't need to be fixed. They took the car for repairs twice, but the shaking and rattling continued. I asked for a refund, several times, but they refused. Then I contacted an independent expert, who found extensive rust damage and other signs that the car had been submerged under water. He said that vital electronic equipment was contaminated and corroding. He also found that the vehicle had been in a collision. (I found out later that the collision damage had been reported to Carfax.) He concluded that the car was unsafe to drive. I then made arrangements for an alternate vehicle. I was stuck with a lemon I could not sell to anyone, knowing what I knew about it being unsafe. I would not take advantage of anyone else by re-selling it. The car remains sitting, un-driven, un-drivable, and collecting dust in my garage to this day. Finally I hired an attorney who filed a suit. Then Mossy Toyota filed a motion in court to get the case kicked out of court and go to arbitration, before the American Arbitration Association. While I was waiting to get things resolved, I had to keep making monthly payments for the car. Otherwise, it could have been repossessed, ruining my credit. I ended up paying off the entire loan of over $12,000 -- all for a car I couldn't even drive. My attorney found out that one arbitrator who was going to hear my case had a history of representing car dealers. Another had a history of ruling for the company and against the consumer on forty different cases. So he contested the arbitrators. Then Mossy refused to pay to initiate the arbitration proceedings, as required by the contract. Under the AAA rules, the company was supposed to pay $750 to start the arbitration process moving. Instead, Mossy insisted that I pay up-front. But that is contrary to AAA rules. The contract they presented to me said that they would pay up to $1500 for case management and arbitrator fees, but they still insisted that I pay instead. My attorney has tried over and over again to get the case heard. I've been waiting ever since 2007, just to get my case heard in arbitration. Finally, last year, the AAA wrote a letter to Mossy refusing to hear any case involving Mossy, and demanding that the AAA name be removed from Mossy's contracts. The AAA wrote they took that action because "Mossy Toyota has not complied with our request to adhere to our policy regarding consumer claims..." Recently, the court ordered that my case be heard by the Judicial Arbitration and Mediation Services (JAMS). I have a hearing date set for next June, before a JAMS arbitrator. But just last week, Mossy filed a motion seeking to have the case dismissed and taken off the docket for JAMS. So now I'm still having to battle, just to get a hearing in arbitration. I know that the proponents of arbitration claim that it's faster than courts. But -- I don't think they take into account cases like mine. If I had been able to have my case heard in court, I think that Mossy Toyota would not have sold me that defective car in the first place. But why not, since they know I can never get them in front of a jury?

  • Recommend this dealer? No
  • Purchased a vehicle from this dealer? No
  • Did the dealer honor all commitments made? No

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jonprz on 09/27/2014
Interim Song Beverly Ruling: Dated September 15, 2014 Breach of Express Warranty and Implied Warranty of Merchantability (Song Beverly Act) Mossy included a limited express warranty (90 days or 3000 miles) for 100% of the parts and labor costs on engine and transmission repair. The panel finds this would include the vibration problem. Mossy made two attempts to repair the vehicle with no success whatsoever and then informed Mossy it could not be repaired and was, at any rate, "normal" for this vehicle. In the event a warranted defect substantially reduces the value, use or safety of a vehicle, the seller must replace or repurchase the vehicle, or otherwise make restitution to the purchaser. This was a vehicle purchased at retail, for Perz' personal use. Perz made several requests of Mossy to repair the defect, and Mossy agreed to attempt the repair twice. Mossy was given adequate opportunity to repair or replace or make restitution. It was unable to do the first and refused to do the others. Perz has proven the elements necessary to prevail on this cause of action. The implied warranty of merchantability requires that the vehicle be fit for its ordinary use, in this case personal transportation to and from work. The only description of the condition of the vehicle is that it was unsafe to drive. Mossy's attempt to "reduce" the vibrations at stops by putting it into neutral corroborates the intensity of the vibrations and the unsafe measures which had to be taken to reduce the vibrations and allow for accurate vision through mirrors and the windshield. No opportunity to repair is required, though several opportunities were given. Perz has proven the elements necessary to prevail on this cause of action. Under the Song-Beverly Act. The panel is authorized to award double damages on the Song-Beverly causes of action, if Mossy's failure to act was willful, which it was. (Civil Code section 1794(c)). Perz is entitled to an award of fees and costs on the Song-Beverly causes of action (Civil Code section 1794(d)). Perz is entitled to reasonable attorney's fees and costs. JAMS ARBITRATION NO. 1240021161 ##
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