2009 BMW 7 Series Consumer Discussions

BMW 7-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Does this look OK

  Written by: digby3690 on Feb 12, 2012 5:46:10 PM

  I'm looking to purchase BMW and recently had contact with a individual seller who offered the following 2003 740i for 10,900 but is willing to go to 10,000. Couple of specific questions: I have read the duplicate title is not a problem - What are all the title numbers? Does this sequence appear OK? The reported 54,000+ seems reasonable given 42,000 on the reports? Is this price to good to believe ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Maintenance and Repair

• Re: Concerns with maintenance of a 2009 BMW 750LI CPO [momentum28]

  Written by: sysadb420 on Jan 6, 2012 10:03:51 AM

  Momentum - are you looking at an extended warranty or a CPO car that comes with one? Assuming you are more concerned about the price of repairs versus service costs, most extended plans outside of CPO have several levels of coverage. I priced a few out as I recently bought a 2008, and electrical components may be covered completely, partly, or not at all depending on the plan. Not surprisingly, the ... Read More

• Concerns with maintenance of a 2009 BMW 750LI CPO

  Written by: momentum28 on Jan 5, 2012 7:31:37 PM

  I have heard many rumors that owning a 750LI in general will cost you tons of money due to all the maintenance that is needed. One problem that I've heard of many times is "electrical" issues, especially with the 750LI's. Just curious to know if anyone has experienced an electrical issues with a 2009 BMW 750LI CPO? Are these issues covered in an extended warranty contract? Thanks,!

BMW 7-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Thoughts on a 2009 BMW 750LI CPO

  Written by: momentum28 on Jan 5, 2012 7:28:07 PM

  I'm currently being offered 68,991 for a 2009 BMW 750LI CPO with 29,400 miles. It has the Camera package, premium sound, sport package, luxury seating, rear entertainment package, smartphone integration, etc. Carfax is clean as well. Thoughts on the price and how much do you think I bargain this down...right now APR is 2.9%. Thanks!

BMW 7-Series Maintenance and Repair

• 2009 750Li Issues

  Written by: txbmwdriver on Oct 26, 2010 8:10:47 AM

  My 2009 750 has 13,800 miles. To date, I've added 5 quarts of oil. At my last service, the dealer said BMW spec is that the car could use up to a quart every 1,500 miles. I've never added oil to a car between service. I've also noticed that my car sometimes has difficulty starting. It either takes a while or just times out and stops. Is anyone else having these ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• Re: Negotiating lease on 2009 with incentives [adefina]

  Written by: gryan on Dec 3, 2009 8:09:59 AM

  The dealer should be selling the car at around $7000 off not $3500. The $6000 is from BMW and does not hurt the dealer. According to you/Edmunds, the Dealer paid 91,155 and wants to sell at 95,500. He should be selling at invoice just to move it off the lot so he can sell more 2010's. Ask him what he is using for cap cost? and what is the money factor. ... Read More

• Re: Lease Buy Out - to do or not to do [adefina]

  Written by: gryan on Nov 15, 2009 7:01:20 AM

  I just leased the 2009 Li and I love it. BMW gave $6000 in rebate to be uused as cap reduction. The dealers are selling them at cost. I used Multiple securites to get money factor down but it is already low at .00090, this is equal to 2.25% Unless you plan on keeping the 2007 for more than a few more years I would say lease a new one. I ... Read More

• Lease Buy Out - to do or not to do

  Written by: adefina on Nov 15, 2009 4:07:13 AM

  I am trying to decide whether to do a lease buy out on a 2007 750li, or lease a 2009. It is in excellent and almost pristeen condition and has 27,000 miles on it. the residual is $52,014. No repairs have been needed, just regular oil changes. This car has options that I like, and significantly, the back seat seems to have more room than the 2009. Without seeing the car ... Read More

• Re: Help! [zoran]

  Written by: Car_man on Nov 6, 2009 3:58:24 AM

  You're welcome zoran. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2009 BMW 750i that has an MSRP of $89,880 and a selling price of $84,320 through BMW Financial Services right now for 36 months with 10,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $1,283. BMW is currently providing a $6,000 cash incentive on leases of this car. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & ... Read More

• BMW lease

  Written by: gryan on Oct 30, 2009 9:31:04 PM

  Carman Lets see if I understand this...The 2009 has $6000 in dealer cash. I was offered $96375 MSRP car today for $89190, which is supposedly the invoice but I guess I should be getting the car below invoice. This is my 1st BMW so I do not get any reduced money factor. They told me it would be .00105 for 15,000 miles per year on a 3 year lease. payment is ... Read More

• Re: Help! [britaway]

  Written by: Car_man on Oct 21, 2009 2:39:26 AM

  Hi britaway. Nope. BMW is only providing $6,000 in cash on 2009 7's right now. The fact that you are a loyal customer doesn't entitle you to any additional incentives, other than the waiver of your security deposit for free. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum

BMW Bids Bangle Begone

• Re: heading downmarket [Mr_Shiftright]

  Written by: pp2009pp on Jan 30, 2010 8:28:20 PM

  "Perhaps we are on the cutting edge of yet another breaking trend, that firms like BMW should seriously contemplate---why build cars in the US that are in direct collision with speed laws? " How about in direct collision with gas usage? My BMW 2009 X3 gets 14-15 mpg and it is small for an SUV. I heard that the 5-series Gran Turismo is as large as a 7 series. Isn't that ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: Leasing a new 2009 or 2010 750li [blckislandguy]

  Written by: kirstie_h on Nov 21, 2009 12:13:24 PM

  You misunderstood my comment - I don't think asking for complete data in any way means you're a lesser mortal. In fact, I was implying that more than just purchase price needs to be researched. My point is that some models have very high maintenance and repair costs. Before entering into a purchase, one needs to feel comfortable that they can afford those costs as well, especially if those costs are ... Read More

• Re: LS vs. E350 [benznessman]

  Written by: sanjaysdca on Aug 20, 2009 9:17:19 AM

  Car and Driver compared 50K cars and the ranking is 1) Audi A6 2) BMW 5 series 3) Infiniti M45 4) Jaguar XF 5) 2010 MB E350 They did not have much good to say about the car (compared to competition) According to car and Driver MB is the car that you buy to impress the neighbours.. Also in SoCal with all the incentives available a base 2009 E350 can be ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• BMW 750 Lease

  Written by: mark1234 on Sep 15, 2009 4:58:28 PM

  I just wanted to give everyone an update on my experience in Virginia. I have a 2007 BMW 530xi coming off lease in the next month or so. Although I was happy with my car, I was looking to upgrade. I was really just looking to get another one but there was a 2009 750 loaded and on the lot. The dealership was ready to deal. It was fully loaded for ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• A different view of the HELC

  Written by: blckislandguy on Sep 12, 2009 7:08:59 PM

  Here is another take on the whole HELC thing. 1) Clearly there is no relatonship between purchase price and ownership satisfaction. In fact, for some people the more they pay for a car, the crazier they get if they have a problem. Take a look at the posts on the MB S Class site by a guy who paid 140K for an S63, had his air conditioner compressor fail, and it ... Read More

BMW 7-Series Lease Questions

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [hamin]

  Written by: ar1 on Jun 29, 2009 11:41:55 PM

  Hi, I am a new user on this board and in the market of 09 750 LI. Looks like you got a good deal. The dealer in houston says there is no rebates or credits. Can you share the dealership and town you bought it. Thanks.

• Re: 2009 750 LI Lease [fabgreg]

  Written by: hamin on May 30, 2009 1:13:15 PM

  Hi: In my own experience with new 7 , you are not been given a good deal...rather its quite a rip off!!! ..... BMW is not offering any Lease support on new 7 , so buying is better than leasing this one....... If you buy, ( which I think you should ), you should be paying around 1500-2000$ above INVOICE price......that means about at least 4-5 K less than the MSRP... ... Read More

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [bmwduder]

  Written by: mlad11 on May 18, 2009 12:44:18 PM

  You got killed on that deal, 1700 a month? I have an 08 loaded w/ sport on a 3 year/15k with 0 down and I'm paying a little under 1200 a month. It looks as if your lease is even longer than 36 mos if it doesn't go back till june of next year. Its going to take you offering it for 600-700 a month less than your payment to make ... Read More

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [bmwduder]

  Written by: liili on Apr 24, 2009 1:04:23 PM

  Selling? How does it work?

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [ukwildcats]

  Written by: bmwduder on Apr 22, 2009 5:01:18 PM

  I have a 2007 750LI Sport, Loaded with 20k miles on it It also has 20 Inch Factory M Wheels Payment is $1700 per month and the lease is up in June 2010 Car is perfect I will pay you to get into my car. I can make my deal much more attractive than what you are looking at now. I am looking to get the new 750 and I don't ... Read More

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [Car_man]

  Written by: ukwildcats on Apr 22, 2009 3:14:25 AM

  Would appreciate input: Looking to lease (for tax purposes) a 2007 Li with 28,600 miles on it. Sale price of $47,400, 3 year 15K per, $2563 due at signing, $1063 per month. Buy rate factor used is .00350 and he gave me a residual value of $19,732 at end of lease. FWIW it has every option available. Thanks.

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [hamin]

  Written by: Car_man on Apr 22, 2009 2:58:42 AM

  Congratulations on getting your new 7, hamin. Thanks for taking the time to let us all know how everything turned out. $2,000 over dealer invoice is more than many other BMW models are going for right now, but I am not surprised given the fact that the '09 7 just came out and it was redesigned. Assuming that the dealer used BMW FS' buy rate to calculate your monthly payment, which ... Read More

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [bmlexus]

  Written by: hamin on Apr 12, 2009 2:10:31 PM

  Well, Once I test drove 750 Li , I did not even look at LS ....., I did look at S 550 though .... the new 750 Li is for sure a huge improvement......, it is much more sportier and a " live " car as compare to S550......, its interior is very very nice, imopressive and tachnology is superb....I really loved the V8 twin Turbo with 400 bhp.....that makes a ... Read More

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [hamin]

  Written by: bmlexus on Apr 12, 2009 1:23:29 PM

  Hello, Congratulations, hope you enjoy your new car. I hope you'll continue posting, because many owners never come back to tell their experience. How comfortable is it? I've read many reviews mentioning the ride is harsh compared to LS and the S class. My question to you is, did you test the LS or the S class because making your decision. Happy driving :)

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [Car_man]

  Written by: hamin on Apr 11, 2009 12:17:36 PM

  Dear Car-Man I bought 750 Li this week. here are the details ... 750Li, 2009, Black saphire Metallic. Oyster Nappa, Fine line high gloss trim 19 inch wheels Head Up display Rear automatic shades Rear Entertaiment package. MSRP 91,825...Invoice 84,475 Got it at 86,475 .... what do you think about the deal .....

• Re: 2009 BMW 750Li Lease [Car_man]

  Written by: mr2009x on Mar 30, 2009 9:03:37 AM

  Dear Car_man, The MSRP is $93,475 and I am not sure how much they are willing to reduce. They are quoting aound $1600/M for a 36 months with 15K miles. I am not sure whether this is reasonable as it is lot more compared to what I am paying for the current 750Li ($1160). Thank you.

• Re: 2009 BMW 750Li Lease [mr2009x]

  Written by: Car_man on Mar 30, 2009 3:14:51 AM

  Hello mr2009x. Is $93,475 this car's MSRP or its selling price. I need both numbers to work up a lease payment on it for you. Let me know what they both are and I'll crunch some numbers. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum

• Re: Dear Car-man [isha1]

  Written by: Car_man on Mar 30, 2009 3:10:47 AM

  I sure do, isha1. Here's the information that you're looking for. Through March 32st, BMW Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 750Li with 12,000 miles per year are .00275 and 47%, respectively. The .00275 is BMW FS' buy rate standard lease money factor. It may vary slightly by region, but BMW is not providing any lease support on this ... Read More

• Re: BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice [hamin]

  Written by: Car_man on Mar 30, 2009 3:06:51 AM

  Welcome back hamin. BMW is not currently providing any lease support on the redesigned 7, so leasing one right now definitely is not a good deal. BMW is not currently providing any dealer cash or special financing offer on this car either. I haven't heard much about how good a deal dealers are willing to cut on a new 7 right now. Like with any brand new model, I am sure ... Read More

• Re: 2009 bmw 700series lease questions [campion]

  Written by: Car_man on Mar 30, 2009 3:03:16 AM

  Hi campion. The best way to evaluate whether the lease that you were quoted is a good deal is to look at its selling price. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. Let us know what this car's selling price is and I am sure that either myself or another knowledgeable community member will gladly give you their opinion ... Read More

• Re: bmw 750i 2009 leasing [Car_man]

  Written by: zoran on Mar 28, 2009 11:51:56 PM

  Is 09 750i lease plan, rates out by BMW?

• 2009 BMW 750Li Lease

  Written by: mr2009x on Mar 25, 2009 2:19:05 PM

  Hi, I would like to know how much would be the lease for the 2009 BMW 750Li that costs $93475 with the options. I am in the state of Illinois, DuPage county and I am looking for 36 months, 15K miles/year and 0 down.

• Re: 2009 bmw 700series lease questions [campion]

  Written by: zoran on Mar 24, 2009 10:38:04 PM

  Could you give us details, options, configuration, lease terms, down etc? and from where did u get this quote? what is money factor? I have been quoted $1600 plus tax on 96K car, 36 mo/10K miles, Zero down, selling price 90K. Quote seems outrageous to me.

• Re: 2009 bmw 700series lease questions [campion]

  Written by: campion on Mar 20, 2009 1:51:58 PM

  dear carman i would appreciate a response to my post of march 10th thank you campion

• Dear CarMan please PLEASE reply

  Written by: hamin on Mar 16, 2009 8:47:06 AM

  Dear Car Man ; I have had excellant experience of buying two cars after receiving input and guidance from you ...... I need to ask you about your thoughts on new 7 series 2009 . I was interested for 535 i , but changed mind because model of 5 series is going to change soon and current model is on the market for 5 yrs + .... needless to say, I ... Read More

• Re: BMW 750Li lease [Car_man]

  Written by: campion on Mar 12, 2009 8:10:31 AM

  dear carman, i"m ready to lease a 2009 750i bmw it would be a big help if you could respond to my lease figures campion

• BMW 750 Li 2009, need advice

  Written by: hamin on Mar 11, 2009 9:23:11 AM

  Dear Car Man ; I have had excellant experience of buying two cars after receiving input and guidance from you ...... I need to ask you about your thoughts on new 7 series 2009 . I was interested for 535 i , but changed mind because model of 5 series is going to change soon and current model is on the market for 5 yrs + .... needless to say, I ... Read More

• 2009 bmw 700series lease questions

  Written by: campion on Mar 10, 2009 12:45:30 PM

  i have received a qoute for a 750i bmw 10,000k 36 months $1223.66 + tax inception fees of $.2619 includes 1st months payment,5%tax,bank fee,reg,docs and state ma.inspection i'd like some opinions. attn carman[ no options included]

• Re: bmw 750i 2009 leasing [campion]

  Written by: Car_man on Feb 20, 2009 4:16:58 AM

  Hi campion. I have not seen BMW's lease program for the 2009 7-Series yet. I suspect that BMW will publish it the first week of March...if not sooner. Please feel free to check back with me and post a quick reminder and I will be happy to let you know if I have heard anything new. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum

• bmw 750i 2009 leasing

  Written by: campion on Feb 2, 2009 9:29:36 AM

  i am enterested in leasing a 759i bmw 2009 i see the list prices have come out the car i will be ordering has no options a 3yr lease and 10 miles per year once the other lease factors come out what payment figure should i go for in mass. or florida also any news when they would available

• Re: 2009 750 [eric312]

  Written by: Car_man on Dec 1, 2008 2:38:53 AM

  Hi eric312. I have not heard about any enhancements to BMW's program for the end of the month. Its November lease program is scheduled to run through the end of the year. It is difficult to say whether it will make an unscheduled enhancement to it for December. If it does, chances are it will roll it out Tuesday afternoon after it announces its November sales. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying ... Read More

• Re: 2009 750 [Car_man]

  Written by: eric312 on Nov 25, 2008 5:07:13 PM

  Car man, Did BMW add new programs for month end? Do you know if there will be any new specials in December?

• Re: 2009 750 [malibugaga]

  Written by: Car_man on Nov 25, 2008 4:36:57 AM

  Hi malibugaga. It will be possible to lease a 2009 7-Series, but to the best of my knowledge BMW has not published a lease program for it yet. It's difficult to say what its lease program for the new 7 will be like when it rolls out, but my guess is not good. Even in the current challenging retail environment BMW will probably to hold of on the fire sale leases ... Read More

• 2009 750

  Written by: malibugaga on Nov 20, 2008 6:59:57 PM

  My lease on Range Rover is ending soon and I was considering leasing 7 series. I just learned that BMW is coming out with a new 2009 version of 7 series. I have not seen any questions about leasing 2009 7s....is it possible to lease one? If so what kind of deals are out there? Is this the reason why 2008s have special lease programs? (or do they?)

• Re: Should I Lease 08 750lI [mann1970]

  Written by: Car_man on Oct 13, 2008 5:30:40 PM

  Hi mann1970. If you haven't pulled the trigger on your lease yet, you're in luck...BMW significantly enhanced its lease program on it on Friday. BMW Financial Services' new buy rate lease money factor for a 36 month lease of an '08 750Li is .00110...less than half of the previous factor. This should shave more than $100 per month off of your car's payment. If I was personally in the market for ... Read More

• Good times to lease on the BMW 750li?

  Written by: kk_kk on Jul 15, 2008 7:05:36 PM

  I heard there are certain times for "specials." My uncle actually was able to cash in on this time from a dealer. It lasts about a week. Can anyone lead me into the right direction? Thanks in advance. My location is New York, New York. KK p.s. 2009 cars are rolling in right?

• Lease help needed

  Written by: gildrv on Feb 11, 2008 12:11:53 PM

  Help!!"> I'm looking to lease a 2008 750i sedan in the next couple of months ,and was wondering if you get a sense that BMW FS is going to increase the current $5000 capitalized cost reduction incentive in anticipation of the new 2009 inventory with body style change?

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: New M3 V8 weighs 33lbs less than outgoing I-6 [dewey]

  Written by: brightness04 on Mar 24, 2007 4:14:18 PM

  Your knowledge of BMW biturbos is equivalent to your knowledge of BMW V6s. hmm, interesting take. BMW biturbos exist in real life, but BMW V6's are frolicking with unicorns. Well at least your knowledge of BMW biturbo engines is a bit better than your knowledge of how "realized resale values and inflated residuals are linked." I'm not the one arguing that they are linked. You are. Now please tell me how ... Read More

• Re: January Sales [esf]

  Written by: hpowders on Feb 7, 2007 8:13:39 PM

  Where did you see that about no BMW diesels? I just searched "BMW diesels in the USA" and the first two things that came up were "BMW 5 series diesels by 2009" and BMW diesels by 2008." Didn't see anything about no BMW diesels in the USA. What BMW did do was reject an alliance with MB to use Bluetec diesel technology. Trust me on this one: Since MB has Bluetec ... Read More

BMW 7-Series 2007+

• New 2009

  Written by: shaung on Feb 23, 2006 8:47:16 PM

  Is garbage, I hope this is not the real car in the pictures. The back looks horrible. Why change something thats not broke, sales are oviously up, who cares about BMW enthusiasts? I fell in love with the 745 in 2001, the change now (750) is okay. Point blank, If it is soooo ugly and offending, why are sales through the roof? Stop it, you can't argue facts. "Offensive" is IN, ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [tagman]

  Written by: dewey on Oct 10, 2006 8:28:17 PM

  BTW, blkhemi did respond to my question about whether or not BlueTec was recently improved enough to eliminate the need for the urea additive (in the 5 most restrictive states, including California, where I reside). I dont know what Dr. Z speech Blkhemi is referring to but it appears the urea bladder is MB's 50 State solution. The EPA had issues with the bladder but now it appears that they have ... Read More

• New BMW 7 Series

  Written by: dewey on Sep 29, 2006 5:42:29 PM

  Here are the first shots of an authentic prototype of the future generation BMW 7 series. These 7 series pictures look a lot like the 2009 5 series pictures I had previously posted here. Both 7 and 5 series pictures seem to share the same styling cues like the current e90 3 series. I guess the only words that come to my mind when looking at these future BMW pictures are: ... Read More

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [tagman]

  Written by: blkhemi on Sep 20, 2006 12:49:07 PM

  Tag, I didn't mean "top dog" in terms of sales. None of the domestics are overacheivers. But in terms of all out luxury, the SRX is what Caddy should've been all this time. You won't mistake it for an RX or Range Rover, but it is better in some respects than many of it's competitors. I still can't believe that it makes C&D's Top 5 trucks all the time.

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [dewey]

  Written by: drfill on Sep 19, 2006 11:27:03 AM

  I have to agree with Dewey and D-man, that is a pretty homely BMW, if that is the future of it. Just like the old Chevy Tahoe to the 2007 Tahoe, they polished out all the aggression and style, and controversy, and went into a non-offensive mode that will endear it to no one. I am a HUGE fan of the "Bangled" 5, just not the standard iDrive in most models. ... Read More

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [blkhemi]

  Written by: tagman on Sep 20, 2006 9:33:53 AM

  Yep, especially when just about every SUV in it's class at that price range as the real stuff, including the domestic top dog, SRX. The SRX does not sell well here at all. Have you checked the nat'l sales figures recently? TagMan

• It All Seems To Fit!

  Written by: hpowders on Sep 20, 2006 9:02:11 AM

  These words posted above are right in line with my prediction that Hyundai will overtake Toyota by January 2009 in the USA. The timing may be off a bit but the phenomenon is inevitable. Yes. Even BMW has decided to go with the Hyundai Sonata rear for its next generation 5 Series and they could have "borrowed" from anyone.

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [dewey]

  Written by: blkhemi on Sep 19, 2006 9:33:25 AM

  The lines of this car are nothing short of elegant. The Bangle-styling of the current is still there, but only just by a hint. I particularly love the front end. But the rear-end is like a few cars I can name, it doesn't match/complement the front. I don't think BMW will leave that flat crease along the rear end. But then again.........

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [lexusguy]

  Written by: blkhemi on Sep 20, 2006 2:33:01 AM

  "...There's absolutely no excuse for plastic at that level.." Yep, especially when just about every SUV in it's class at that price range as the real stuff, including the domestic top dog, SRX.

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [hpowders]

  Written by: tagman on Sep 19, 2006 9:09:55 AM

  When I view the rear, a word that come to mind is Hyundai Given the car's good looks, I'd say that is a large compliment to Hyundai. ;) TagMan

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [dewey]

  Written by: tagman on Sep 19, 2006 8:06:58 AM

  I think the new 5 will have a more significant presence and stance than the pic infers. I find it easy on the eye, and in fact the front end looks clean and balanced to me with the air intake having a great appearane. The rear treatment, particularly due to the lights, is in line with current styling trends more typical to Japanese vehicles in general, not just Hyundai, but they ... Read More

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [hpowders]

  Written by: lexusguy on Sep 20, 2006 12:22:24 AM

  It never has been a major priority with me, but after viewing those high resolution photos of the new MDX interior and then sitting in my 545, there is much room for improvement in the latter. At least the wood in the BMW is real. I didn't realize that the new MDX, loaded with options (you can now do that with Acuras) hits $48K. There's absolutely no excuse for plastic at ... Read More

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [dewey]

  Written by: hpowders on Sep 19, 2006 7:42:02 AM

  When I view the rear, a word that come to mind is Hyundai

• 2009 BMW 5 Series

  Written by: dewey on Sep 19, 2006 7:22:00 AM

  The British mag Car has some of the rumored details and pictures(certainly not official) of the upcoming 5 series. Based on the pictures below it appears BMW's future will lack Bangle's influence and be substituted with blandest of bland styling. This picture looks alot like the current e90 3 series: And the rear-end of this 5 series looks a lot like a Hyundai Sonata: The most interesting specs are the following: ... Read More

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [dewey]

  Written by: hpowders on Sep 19, 2006 8:35:10 PM

  Well it wouldn't hurt for BMW to refresh its rather dour interiors. It never has been a major priority with me, but after viewing those high resolution photos of the new MDX interior and then sitting in my 545, there is much room for improvement in the latter. As far as driveability is concerned, not to worry. BMW's will always be among the best.

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [drfill]

  Written by: dewey on Sep 19, 2006 7:51:47 PM

  am a HUGE fan of the "Bangled" 5, just not the standard iDrive in most models. The 550i would be perfect midsize sport sedan, but it has a heavy cross to bear! Yes as Lexus styling becomes more agressive , the styling of BMWs is becoming somehat homely (or elegant as Tagman would say) Personally I can live with homely styling as long as this homeliness does not spread to BMW ... Read More

• Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [dewey]

  Written by: designman on Sep 19, 2006 9:56:58 AM

  It sucks. That car will not be on my shopping list if that's the way it will look, ultimate driving machine be damned. Designmen don't want to be caught dead in something like that. After putting out the E92 3-series coupe and X5 they stumble back to that nonsense? How gauche. I am confident that will not be it... in my humble but passionate opinion, of course. ;-)

• Re: A Proud PaPa [blkhemi]

  Written by: tagman on Sep 11, 2006 9:42:26 AM

  3 weeks and counting . . . :D Yes, that new 335i also sounds sweet, doesn't it? Hey! . . . a convertible R8 by 2009!!! :D BTW, remember how I had been posting my lone perspective on Lexus going after BMW? Well, now that some time has gone by, I certainly see the IS500 as further evidence, don't you? TagMan

• Lexus future plans\models

  Written by: lexusguy on Aug 21, 2006 5:13:21 PM

  Some interesting information from Automotive news, particularly in regards to the SUVs: IS: "A convertible was expected to debut when the coupe arrived. But Lexus is worried that its planned convertible may not succeed in a world of hard-top convertibles. The model may be sent back to the drawing board, forcing a delay. Lexus executives downplay reports of a V-8, saying the big engine would kill the car's handling - not ... Read More

• Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [hpowders]

  Written by: designman on Aug 10, 2006 9:09:21 AM

  Using your opinions as my most reliable contrary indicator, I will be placing my order for a 2009 5 Series as soon as humanly possible. Yeah yeah (plays fiddle). Wait 'til the Lexicans get on a roll when the 460 comes out, then you'll be buying an LS. Then you'll be back to the M, GS. G35, Cayman, this car, that car... :P

• Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [designman]

  Written by: hpowders on Aug 10, 2006 8:08:28 AM

  Using your opinions as my most reliable contrary indicator, I will be placing my order for a 2009 5 Series as soon as humanly possible.

• Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [merc1]

  Written by: dewey on Aug 9, 2006 4:35:26 AM

  Nothing radically new about the X5 looks. It appears BMW is playing it safe with the styling of their newer models. I saw a picture of what the new 2009 BMW 5 series may look like in the September Automobile Magazine. The styling of this car appears very conservative. Maybe Chris Bangle is under some kind of restraining order and is not allowed to enter any BMW design studios/premises? Designman, it ... Read More

• Re: Die-hard BMW fans..... [dewey]

  Written by: designman on Jun 13, 2006 5:01:32 AM

  Nothing radically new about the X5 looks. It appears BMW is playing it safe with the styling of their newer models. I saw a picture of what the new 2009 BMW 5 series may look like in the September Automobile Magazine. The styling of this car appears very conservative. Maybe Chris Bangle is under some kind of restraining order and is not allowed to enter any BMW design studios/premises? Designman, it ... Read More

• Re: baby boomers, gen-x, gen-y, boring price discourse and 1969-1993 [blcki

  Written by: stevekilburn on May 24, 2006 7:54:20 PM

  With increasing globalization, the heritage factor has assumed a new role and is no more the dominant factor. And yes the pace at which we are moving, 35 years is more than enough. I would say you can duplicate that success in 20 years. Which means in 2009, when Lexus celebrates its 20th, we will have a toast and to germans too, who have sustained such competition. Benz churned out million+ ... Read More

• Re: highly successful formula [carnut100]

  Written by: merc1 on May 5, 2006 5:29:11 AM

  I too think there will be a S450, just not right now. I really don't think adding a 335hp S450 will actually help sales in the short term. The S450 is going to have to get more competitive under the hood or come in under or at best at the same price as the A8L and 750Li, it can't cost 77K like the old S430 for it to be competitive with ... Read More

• Re: Initial impression [ljflx]

  Written by: tagman on Apr 12, 2006 12:26:51 PM

  You might think this is ridiculous, but I somehow have found myself semi-interested in the diesel market's expansion here, and I want to see just what unfolds. I might change my mind over time, but at this moment that is where I seem to be. I am suspicious that the manufacturers are withhoding some of the information on upcoming diesels, to prevent risking loss of important current sales. Admittedly, I could ... Read More

Good, Bad or Ugly - Current and Future styling trends of BMW

• Re: I have said quite a few times on BMW threads.. [shipo]

  Written by: bdkinnh on Feb 9, 2006 8:53:51 AM

  >"I saw a spy photo of what is purporting to be the new 2009 7-Series a day or two back" Do you still have the link? I'd love to see it.

• Re: I have said quite a few times on BMW threads.. [hpowders]

  Written by: shipo on Feb 9, 2006 8:38:46 AM

  " I have said quite a few times on BMW threads that the E39 just looked like a bigger 3. Once I saw one and thought it was a 3, but was surprised to see "525" on the back." Hmmm, I never once mistook an E39 for either an E36 or E46 (or an E90 for that matter). Not once. "The 5 was well overdue for a fresh new look." That ... Read More

High End Luxury Cars

• to ljflx - good opinions and $$$

  Written by: tagman on Feb 1, 2006 9:19:48 AM

  merc1 said: I really couldn't care less what type of house, jewelry or anything else you buy/have TRUE! ljflx - All the money in the world won't make your opinion any more credible than anyone else's. It just might get some more fanfare, but that's it. If you've really made a TRUE success of yourself, than you should already have learned that lesson in life. No reason to compromise yourself like ... Read More

• Re: A Shift in Gears.......... [lexusguy]

  Written by: merc1 on Jan 12, 2006 1:23:19 AM

  You would think BMW would do that, but the rivalry in Germany is way too hot for them to back down now. They'll do a R-Class competitor if it kills them. I suspect they'll make a better one as far as fun to drive and maybe in looks, but I don't see how it will be any bigger and still keep the BMW sport theme intact. The saying was that BMW ... Read More