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2003 Toyota Prius Consumer Discussions
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Under hood battery HCH
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Under hood battery HCH
No problems with my 2003 HCH "hybrid" battery; but is there something special about the starting or other requirements of the Honda technology that would result in less "starts", years, or mileage in the under the hood battery? Does the Toyota Prius hybrid technology literally "get more mileage" from its under the hood battery?
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: rehashing reliability is old-hat [winter2]
You mentioned: "Let us hook up the equivalent weight to the 2010 Prius and then see what happens. But then again, I do not know anyone who commutes in a Kenworth, Freightliner or Volvo truck." The technical term is power-to-weight ratio and that pretty well defines hill climbing performance for any vehicle ... even a diesel. You also mentioned: "So Toyota gave the gas engine 22 more HP and 23 more ... Read More
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Re: Golf TDI is the better car [gagrice]
"...There is a very capable fellow Wayne Gerdes that used to post here on a regular basis that has set records with different vehicles including the Prius." I do not have references, but I seem to recall an article he penned, where he got Toyota to pony up for a "so called "performance" Corollla and proceeds to coax 59-63 mpg out of it. Pretty good for a 25 mpg combined rating. ... Read More
Prius Owners w/50K - What We Think Now
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Re: Info About Both Batteries In 2nd Gen Prius [stevegold]
I think my manufacture date is close to yours since I picked mine up at the beginning of November 2003. I had the same TSBs you mentioned addressed at one visit. I waited two years as I didn't want to make multiple visits to the dealer. Went for an oil change there and said to address any TSBs that were in effect. They even gave me a new NAV disc as ... Read More
Toyota Prius Electrical and Lighting Questions
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How do you charge Prius Batteries.
Hi everyone new to this site. I am an over the road truck driver. I have a 2003 Toyota Prius that I have not driven since October of 07. It is completely dead. How do I recharge the batteries. I called the dealer and asked them they said that I should have jumper posts under the hood, but I can not see anywhere to connect cables to. Also should I use ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: Anecdotal Experience [moparbad]
I for one am looking forward to the roll out of the GTD either the 2010/2011. Initial indications are @ $18,000. Till that time the only thing that is close and might be off topic is the 2009 Jetta TDI. While we get 39-45 mpg, that has been in break in mode . In some respects the engines (Prius/TDI) are not in the ball park. As such, the reality is more ... Read More
Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experiences
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2010 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experiences
Bought a 2010 Prius, taxes, title, and registration, total: $24,250. The insurance agent called and our premium goes up $9/year. We sold a 2001 Echo and paid off the 2003 Prius to cancel the collision and added this 2010 Prius. Bob Wilson
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Re: Cadillacs, etc. [rick294]
I was just relaying what I have read in Consumer Reports :) I seldom rely on anything any journalist has to say, even Consumer reports. Although I do like the little red balls beside "issues" for reliability. I think CR may be changine their ratings some, I don't keep up with them. One thing I always disliked was that the ratings don't delve into the distinction between "serious" issues and those ... Read More
Were hybrids ever the silver bullet?
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Re: Maybe "Silver Bullitt" But Better.."Mousetrap" [bpizzuti]
I'll overlook your digs and just pass facts along. Ford is well remembered in my "Past." Unfortunitly back in 2003 when I decided to investigate the hybrid market Ford was nowhere to be seen. On the other hand Honda & Toyota were deep in their commitment to break ground with a serious alturnitive to the gas hogs. GM and Ford were still pushing out 9 mpg Hummers & Excursions. Of course ... Read More
Prius Owners w/50K - What We Think Now
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Re: 2001 Prius At 50K [sarahdance]
I understand that the early Priuses (2003 and older) did have some problems here and there. For brokers, check the Yellow Pages under Automobile or Automotive - Brokers. Priuses, right now, are seen as gold-plated. It might pay to put out the money to get it repaired and then sell it. Last year, Priuses were popular, but this year (after gas crossed the $4 line) they are in huge demand. You ... Read More
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Re: PRIUS OWNERS W/ 50K : WHAT WE THINK NOW [anotherguy]
OK, OK, it appears Prius owners are completely happy with their cars! I get it. I have read through nearly all the replys to this "Prius owners with 50K miles" posting. Isn't there ANY Prius owner who have had problems with their big Hybrid batteries? I own a 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid. The "Integrated Motor Assist" battery had to be replaced after only 60K miles. Of course this was covered under ... Read More
What to expect from the next model year Prius
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Re: seats [bigmclargehuge]
I was talking about Toyota and the Prius OEMs ( meaning Prius OEM equipment ). This is a Prius board. Reading comp problems again? However I do see where you might have been confused by the wording. To be precise.... There have been no LRRTs on the Prius model since the end of the Gen 1s in Sept 2003. This subject was about the Prius nothing else. You jumped the Yukon/Tahoe ... Read More
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Re: Timing belt? Transmission fluid [vu2000]
All 4c Toyota's here since 2003 have used timing chains including all of the current Prius'. The timing chains never need to be changed except possibly in mega-milage situations well over 200,000 miles. Nobody is there yet AFAIK. There is no traditional transmission in a Prius. There is a transaxel connected to the PSD ( planetary gear set ) that has a coolant that should be drained and changed every 100,000 ... Read More
Prius Owners w/50K - What We Think Now
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Re: 110K miles [little_pogi]
Yes all Prius', as well as all 4c Toyota's from 2003 onward, use timing chains iso timing belts. All V6s beginning with the GR family of engines also use chains iso belts All the new V8's beginning with the UR family of engines will use chains iso belts. As of today the only vehicles being made that use timing belts are the 3.3L V6 Solaras, the 3.3L hybrid Highlanders and the ... Read More
Toyota Prius Hybrid System Questions
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the problem actually was
I never got a response from anyone, but incase you have a similar issue, you may still be interested. The problem with my 2003 prius ended up being the fuel tank and the computer associated with the fuel tank. Sounds like other people have had problems too. I needed a new fuel tank and computer. The computer was still covered under warranty, but not the fuel tank. Tank + labor was ... Read More
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downinbh
I bouught a used 2003 prius in sept, 2007. Monday I had the oil changed by toyota. Since then it has run harder and louder. Yesterday it stalled and gave me three warning lights: Power Steering, Hybrid Battery, and Hybrid System. I called toyota and asked what I should do. They were closing in about 2 minutes. The guy on the phone told me he didn't know basically. I asked if ... Read More
What to expect from the next model year Prius
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Re: 2009 [xhe518]
Toyota is notoriously zipped-lipped about new offerings unless it suits their purposes to generate new interest. The Prius has a very very loyal owner/fan base that's chomping at the bit to get some tidbit of real data on the next generation. All that Toyota has said is that they decided to delay implementation of the Li-Ion batteries until more validations could be done. I believe that they stated these would be ... Read More
Help me understand the value of the hybrid.
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Re: Help me understand the value of the hybrid. [etroup]
You keep posting that the batteries will wear out around 100K mi. Please advise where you got this information. The information -I've- seen indicates they usually last much longer than that. The original Prius (Prius Classic - 2000 to 2003 in the US) -may- have battery problems sooner than the current car. Toyota has improved the batteries a lot in the current model. One problem estimating battery life is the current ... Read More
Toyota Prius Paint Quality?
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Re: Quality of paint? [lightgear]
I purchased a new 2006 Prius last year and quickly learned that it had essentially no clearcoat over the base paint. My car is a deep dark red (don't know the name of the color off hand, but it is a pretty color). I tried keeping it cleaned and waxed often at first but let the cleaning slide for about a month or so. When I cleaned it again I found ... Read More
Honda Civic Hybrid vs Toyota Prius
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Plug-in Hybrid
I am very happy with my 2003 HCH, just coming on 50k and 40 MPG overall (mainly due to under-inflated tires for a long time - I had health issues and wasn't checking). At the time the Prius was more expensive, a longer wait, and didn't look like a "real car". However I might consider a new Prius at this stage, since Toyota technology is capable of being modified to recharge ... Read More
Toyota Prius Engine Problems
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Toyota Prius-Fails to Start
My Sister has a 2003 Toyota Prius and when she goes to start the engine will roll over, but it won't start. My brother says it's the fuel pump, or something. Does anyone have any idea what it could be? And if so, how much will it cost, estimated with parts and labor? Thank you sooo much!
Toyota Prius Basic Care & Maintenance
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Re: 2007 PRIUS WORKSHOP MANUAL ?? [pathstar1]
I looked on eBay for "legal" stuff and right now there are only 2006 (ALL FOUR VOLUMES) Prius manual set, presently going for over $201 and still one day left !! I bet it will get a final bid well over $300 !! Ya' gotta check it out !! I was also considering joining that Toyota TECHINFO for just ONE DAY and downloading all I can get my hands on........ I ... Read More
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Tampa / Lakeland, Florida
We actually went to five Toyota Dealers in the Tampa / Lakeland, Florida area. We just ordered (yep, "waiting" for that certain color/specific package combo) a 2007 Prius TOURING with PACKAGE 5, no other options !! We have (on signed order sheet) an agreed price of $25,478 for the vehicle plus $589 "Dealer Admin. Fee" which, in actuality, makes it $26,067 !! We are trading in a "mint condition" (you gotta ... Read More
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Re: Extended Service and Warranty Plans + LoJack and VIP system. [pathstar1
My first post on this forum, so my apologies in advance if I make a protocol error, plus I am handicapped and on strong doses of morphine for pain. I tell you this because my memory is very poor and I forget things. For those who say the extended warranty is not worth it, you are probably right with a Toyota. All bets off with a hybrid. The fuel and electrical ... Read More
New Prius Owners - Give Us Your Report
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Re: Not Your Typical Prius Owner [midnightcowboy]
I very much agree to this: "Most peopel who buy a Prius are really stretching their budget to buy one and can only do so with the government tax credits and other incentives. Face it, the Prius is a very expensive economy car and is not affordable by a lot of people" I own a 2003 Toyota Echo, yes its a little smaller than the Prius, but I paid $9,200, 34,000 ... Read More
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2007 #5 bought Monday
I got my Prius #5 Monday. I posted the Price info under Prices Paid #439 I've followed the Prius Forums since 2003. I had a new '99 Avalon and wrote to Toyota to try to get them to add the Hybrid to it. They put it in the Camry first, but the Camry has a small trunk, tight for the golf clubs and MPG disappointing I really liked the Avalon, but ... Read More
Toyota Prius Engine Problems
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Similar Problem ... Gas Engine won't start
My girlfriend has a similar problem with her 2003 Toyota Prius. We're in Missouri and during winter and especially cold weather (usually when it is below freezing) the electric motor appears to be turning on, but the gas engine will not turn over. She's taken it to a dealer a few times, but they keep telling her that once they reset the computer the problem is fixed. However, once the temperature ... Read More
New Prius Owners - Give Us Your Report
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Prius Rocks!
I'm sure lots of you have heard accolades like this before, but after 20 months and 63,000 miles I have to say it: The Toyota PRIUS is probably the best vehicle I have ever owned! It has simply been an awesome car. Comfortable with lots of room, fun to drive, and as reliable as they come. I drive 63 miles to work one way each day of the work week. And ... Read More
What to expect from the next model year Prius
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Re: Plugging in [larsb]
"they are talking about the Prius AFTER this current generation - they have to be. Toyota would not allow the Prius to go from 2003 to 2010 or 2011 without a re-design. " There have been recent media reports that Toyota is delaying the next generation of their models to try and tighten up the quality controls, due to the recent spate of recalls experienced by the company. However I think ... Read More
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Re: Plugging in [michael2003]
they are talking about the Prius AFTER this current generation - they have to be. Toyota would not allow the Prius to go from 2003 to 2010 or 2011 without a re-design. The next gen Prius is expected for 2009, then maybe they make plug-in an option in 2011.
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Re: Waiting for the 2009 Prius? [dramades]
The original Prius debuted in Japan in 1997. They hit the States here in 2000. The Gen2 ( current model ) hit the market in late Oct 2003 as a 2004 model. The warranty issue is one which is personal but as noted above there are parts, not the hybrid or drivetrain part, but the normal car part that are covered by the 3/36 Basic warranty that are really expensive to ... Read More
Hybrid Prius that gets over 100 Miles per Gallon
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Re: Toyota Prius [timinalaska]
OK, I pretty much agree with your analysis. I think we the public got screwed and GM indirectly got screwed by CARB. They could have stayed the course on demanding 10% of the cars to be ZEV. Instead the little minds at CARB went for the hybrid carrot. Hybrids may be OK but as you put it so well, they will be money makers in parts for the automakers. GM lost ... Read More
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Re: Prius [backy]
"Maybe you could read the article? It is about the brand-new, not-yet-for-sale (at that time; the article would have been written in August 2003, maybe September, to make an October 2003 magazine issue) 2004 Prius. The quote makes no sense if it is applied to the 2004+ Prius. It is clear it applies to the Gen 1 Prius, pre-2004 MY. I have seen other statements about the profitability of the Gen ... Read More
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Re: Prius [stevedebi]
Toyota lost money on every first generation (1999-2003) Prius they sold. Untrue. The following is from an October 2003 story in Automotive Industries Magazine. The "current generation" Prius they refer to is the first generation car: While the rest of the automotive world is struggling to make a business case for hybrids, Toyota Motor Company is making money. According to Toyota, the last few month's worth of the current generation Prius ... Read More
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Re: Prius [kneisl1]
"I have heard that Toyota sells the Prius for less than it costs to make. Is this true? If so, does anyone have any figures as to what costs Toyota actually incurs in the production of the Prius?" Toyota lost money on every first generation (1999-2003) Prius they sold. They claim they are now making money on the car. No one knows just how much it actually costs to produce a ... Read More
Toyota Prius Owners Meet the Members
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Re: toyota prius????? [cruising7388]
The current Prius II came out about Oct 2003 as a 2004 model. There should be a quite a few of them near 100k miles by now.
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Re: The problem with these Prius comparisons [jrct9454]
If you drive a Fit like a Prius on the highway, i.e. a relatively slow 65-70 mph, perhaps the road noise won't be so bad. Overall noise in my 2003 Outback wagon is reasonably controlled at or below 75 mph but once you eclipse 75 noise becomes a real, almost this-is-a-design-flaw, issue. But what gets me is that $3000 or so federal tax credit because if that's not there, the Prius ... Read More
Toyota Prius: Problems & Solutions
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prius disaster
I have a 2003 prius which I bought new and have maintained well. I had no major problems until recently when the motor assist went out on the steering for no reason. The motor is electrical and an integral part of the linkage. Cost to repair $2000.00. This last week a loud noise came from the engine compartment that sounded like a bomb going off. A piston rod broke and drove ... Read More
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Re: dickering ? [moparbad]
My post was in reply to gagrice's contention that the Prius was not selling well in late 2003, so it was easy to get a test drive (or 3) when I did. I think an eight-month waiting list is a sign that the Prius was selling quite well in late 2003. Since then, Toyota has more than tripled the production of the Prius for North America, and the Civic Hybrid has ... Read More
Toyota Prius: Problems & Solutions
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2003 issue
I purchased a 2003 Prius new. Have been please up to this point. I made it through the last Wisconsin winter without any problems. Not so this year. The first snow fall/sub 20 degree weather, I started the car and was driving. When I let off the gas their was a noticeable jerk (not the driver) to the car. A short time later the warning lights went on and only the ... Read More
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Re: more comments [backy]
are no reports yet of any Prius--even taxis with over 250,000 miles--needing a battery replacement. Interesting article about the first Prius cab. Grant -- a one-time car salesman who, when he's not driving, is studying to be an executive business coach -- is on his third Prius now. (Toyota, seizing a chance to evaluate the car's durability, took his original back after he'd driven it 200,000 miles in 25 months and ... Read More
Any downside to buying a hybrid?
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Re: Downsides to Hybrid ownership? [michael_mattox]
Your responses are civil, thanks. I didn't come over here to push Lincolns, that's for sure. I don't think I even mentioned them until your birdman looked at my profile. (He's since been over to a Lincoln forum posting a nice big TROLL post.) I originally followed another of your posters over here after he made a sort of a troll post in the Navigator forum. In any case, I've certainly ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs. Honda Civic Hybrid v. Honda Insight v. ?
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Re: Honda Civic Hybrid Vs. Prius [koolkinkajou]
I think the lack of folding rear seats is a HUGE drawback for the HCH. Neither the 2003 HCH and Prius models had folding rear seats. I drove both and wouldn't buy either for that ONE reason. Toyota wised up with the 2004 Prius, I bought one and I love it. I was hoping Honda would wise up with the HAH but they did not. Again I was hoping they would ... Read More
Any downside to buying a hybrid?
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Re: Well, if it's "bad logic" you cannot stand, you need to [heyjewel]
Actually this is not entirely accurate. When the Prius first came out Toyota invited a group of auto journalists to its plant in Japan and to its crash testing facility. In front of this group, as reported by the Toronto Sun, they crashed an '04 Prius into an '04 Prado ( LX470 ) using a 40km/h offset crash method as which is actually more 'stressful' than that used by the IIHS ... Read More
Toyota Prius (First Generation)
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Re: Toyota prius service 2003 [mrvadeboncoeur]
Some dealers will sell you a "lifetime oil change certificate" for some trivial amount of money when you buy the car from them. I'm sure they expect to recoup the cost with other repairs. They want you in the habit of visiting their service department...
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Re: Toyota prius service 2003 [bigfrog]
2001-2003 US Prius had complementary (free) service at any Toyota dealer for the first 5 regularly scheduled maintenances (up to 30 months/37,500 miles). Yes, this does transfer when sold. This plan was not carried over onto the 2004-? Prius. Some individual dealers may throw in some form of free maintenance package. Or you can buy a Toyota Pre-Paid maintenance plan in increments up to 4 years/55,000 miles. But I have not ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs. Honda Civic Hybrid v. Honda Insight v. ?
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Re: Rear window view on Prius [john1701a]
repost of #245 without link to other forum, sorry 'bout that Early you were referring to the transmission as CVT se one of your earlier posts: #54 john1701a, "Hybrids: Toyota Prius vs. Honda Civic Hybrid v. Honda Insight v. ?" #54, 3 Dec 2003 12:31 am 1. some people call it a transmission there was a lot of debate about that. 2. they are called gears, just by their specifc name ... Read More
Toyota Prius Software Problems
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Re: Prius [stevedebi]
To Stevedebi thanks for your response. My Prius is a 2004 with the group 9 package..i.e. with all the bells and whistles that Toyota offers on ths vehicle. My car was ordered in October of 2003 and delivered in late February of 2004. I mention this because some of the Prius problems probably relate to particular serial numbers and their dates of manufacture. Do you know the numbers of the TSB's ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs. Honda Civic Hybrid v. Honda Insight v. ?
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Re: HCH vs. Prius [mossyman] - voice commands
Congrats on your new Prius! A complete list of voice commands has been posted (and is discussed) along with features, etc. at john1701a, "Toyota Prius 2004+" #1955, 27 Dec 2003 5:45 pm Also - don't forget to post about your buy in the Toyota Prius: Prices Paid & Buying Experiences discussion. Again - congrats!
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Re: Prius vs HCH vs non-hybrid [molokai]
I'm not sure how much information is out on the battery, but in one of the searches I've done (either in this forum or elsewhere), I've read that the Prius' battery are in separate cells, so if one goes bad, you can actually just replace the one bad cell. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. I found this information from Toyota in one of my researches, (but I think this is ... Read More
Toyota Prius Software Problems
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My broken Prius
Thanks again for all your suggestions. My Prius will not be looked at until next week (Monday hopefully) and I will let you know what happens. I have been reading about Prius at this forum since Summer 2003, before I bought my 2004 Prius, and have found it immensely helpful. Also, I did file an online complaint with NHTSA -- I wanted to add my name to the list so Toyota ... Read More
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Re: $4,000 Prius tax CREDIT?!?! [kevreg]
That's not correct. Here's the relevant excerpt from the IRS site. Under the Working Families Tax Relief Act of 2004, the deduction amount is limited to $2,000 for cars first put into use in 2004 and 2005. the deduction will be limited to $500 for vehicles placed in service in 2006, and no deduction will be allowed after that year. Certain Toyota and Honda models qualify for the deduction: * Toyota ... Read More
Toyota Prius (First Generation)
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2001 Prius fleet performance was stellar...
Here is a VERY INTERESTING page talking about fleet performance of a group of 2001 Prius cars in Canada. "There were no costs identified that were specific to the hybrid components of the vehicles." http://www.hybridexperience.ca/Reliability.htm Battery Life A few Prius owners have commented that the vehicle’s 12 V battery has died when the car hasn’t been driven for a few days. Note: The 2001 Prius owners manual specifically states that the ... Read More
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Concerns about buying a new Prius
I am in the marked for a new Prius. Currently driving a Chevy Lumina with 67,000 miles which has been a great car but I decided that I would like to purchase a hybrid car because of the low emissions and they are environmentally friendly. I ruled out the other hybrids for various reasons (I thought the interior of the Honda Civic hybrid looked cheap and I want a hatch back, ... Read More
Toyota Prius: Problems & Solutions
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Re: engine light 2003 Prius [odie1]
this is the first time I have joined this forum. Wed I was driving a a busy road and all of a sudden my waring light comes on. there was no place to pull off so I drive along at reduced power on the shoulder. I start down a hill with a Toyota dealer two blocks away. I coast down a hilland into a parking lot afraid to cross busy traffic ... Read More
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Re: engine light 2003 Prius [odie1]
Dirty Gas???? That is a good one. I have not heard that before. The fact that you had taken the car in several times while under warranty, then they come up with a fix past the warranty period is suspicious. I would go to the gas station you use most and tell them what happened. They may or may not go to bat for you. BP/ARCO is a lot bigger than ... Read More
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Re: engine light 2003 Prius [gagrice]
I took this 2003 Prius to the dealer...the diagnosis? Dirty fuel injectors which they will clean for 300 dollars. The problem they said was with the B/P Gas that we have been using. The dealer said they have been seeing many vehicles with dirty fuel injectors lately and that the gas company may issue a statement regarding this problem and "may offer you a refund" if the problem is related to ... Read More
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Re: engine light 2003 Prius [gagrice]
I took this 2003 Prius to the dealer...the diagnosis? Dirty fuel injectors which they will clean for 300 dollars. The problem they said was with the B/P Gas that we have been using. The dealer said they have been seeing many vehicles with dirty fuel injectors lately and that the gas company may issue a statement regarding this problem and "may offer you a refund" if the problem is related to ... Read More
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Re: engine light 2003 Prius [odie1]
Should I replace that battery that starts the car? Welcome to the forum. The 12 volt battery is very easy to have checked. I would think it should have some kind of warranty from the battery manufacturer. You need to report this to the NHTSA. That is the only way that Toyota will know about the problems you are having. Your dealer is not going to admit that they are clueless. ... Read More
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Joined the Prius Family Today
Bought a silver Package #1 off the lot (see the Buying Experiences site for purchase details). The car is really quick, lots of room. I drove one when they first came out in October 2003 but forgot how nice they were. The Prius joins our two Civic hybrids in the garage (well, one gets kicked out onto the driveway). I have to change my driving style a little.With the HCH, I ... Read More
Toyota Prius: Problems & Solutions
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post warranty repair costs
we have an 04 Prius, since Dec 2003. I recognize a lot of the issues posted above relating to mileage, rear view, tires, etc. I've been having a problem with the display panel and radio - radio goes off intermittently, panel display either doesn't work at all or is all confused. Almost like a bad fuse. the dealer comes back and tells me that the auxillary battery must be replaced ($200.00) ... Read More
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Re: Package 4 with floormats [falconone]
Having worked in an auto industry for 15years, allow me to explain the economics during model year change.. The factory that produces 2005 prius will keep building these until that crucial date.. whenever there is a model year change and then switch over [typically on a weekend]. The market [consisting of all the buyers and sellers like you and me] unfortunately for the manufacturers, is too smart.. and it knows exactly ... Read More
Toyota Prius Software Problems
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Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [sganarelle]
Must have been the National Inquirer. A search of the on-line Wall Street Journal found no such article. As a matter of fact it was Customer Service Index study by JD Powers. Look it up Toyota is not the best automaker if you are experiencing a problem. In fact they are below all the big 3 brands. Here is the 2003 chart. I am sure the one in the WSJ was ... Read More
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Re: I repeat... [cateh]
Walser Toyota in Bloomington, MN. They have a no-haggle pricing policy. I got the $500 off MSRP in November 2003. Not sure what their current deal is. I do know that when my number came up for a Prius in July 2004, they had about 130 people on their waiting list.
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Prius reliability
I don't own one, yet. I thought you might be interested in an article that's featured in the Toyota Gazette. It's a flyer that Canadian Toyota owners receive periodically (in the mail today). It talks about a 2001 Prius that was used as a Yellow (taxi) Cab in Vancouver. In 25 months, the owner had put 332,000 kilometers (approx. 200,000 miles) on it. During that time it did not require any ... Read More
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Re: Prius radio [rpgolfer] Edmuinds rates it as "OK"
Edmunds rates the the stereo as only OK (see below). Most people who are not audiophiles will find the radio acceptable. One quick way to improve the sound quality for only a couple of hundred dollars is to buy upgraded speakers. However, because the radio is so integrated into the multi-function dispaly, this is about the only improvement you can make :( YTMMV, MidCow ============================================= http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/toyota/prius/100326481/roadtestar- - ticle.html?articleId=100988&editorialpage=page002 Full Test: 2004 ... Read More
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It finally came!!
Our new 2004 Prius, with pkg 9, finally was delivered yesterday, Sept. 2. It is a wonderful car. We ordered it on Nov. 11, 2003, with a $500 deposit. We paid full MSRP. We asked for white, but accepted Tideland Pearl. It came with about $1500 worth of Southeastern Toyota installed options, which I would have preferred to not have, considering the prices. These include a $79 ashtray (which doesn't seem ... Read More
Toyota Prius v. ??? (fill in the comparison)
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Prius II for 2004
More reference substantiating the fact that the Prius II is the 2004 model with no design changes planned for 2005 April 16, 2003 - Toyota introduces second-generation 2004 Prius at the New York Auto Show. Its new, breakthrough electric/gas Hybrid Synergy Drive system has five key advantages over current hybrids - more power, better mileage, super-ultra-low emissions and it's more compact and adaptable to a wider variety of vehicles. http://www.corolland.com/prius/chronology.html
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Re: Safety [dhanley]
"That's not true. In fact, the e-class scored better except in the area of pedestrian protection, in your own link." Maybe we're reading the numbers differently. http://www.euroncap.com/content/safety_ratings/introduction.php 2003 Mercedes E Class Front 13 (81%) Side 18 (100%) Belt Reminder 2 Overall 33 Pedestrian 4 (11%) Child (N/R) (That was only started Dec 04) 2004 Toyota Prius Front 14 (88%) Side 18 (100%) Belt Reminder 2 Overall 34 Pedestrian 13 (36%) Child ... Read More
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A complete list of voice commands has been posted here john1701a "Toyota Prius 2004+" Dec 27, 2003 5:45pm Be sure and use the small 'search this discussion' box in the upper right to for more helpful tips.
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alphabass - Audio Voice Commands
Congrats on your new Prius! A complete list of voice commands has been posted (and is discussed) along with features, etc. at john1701a "Toyota Prius 2004+" Dec 27, 2003 5:45pm I'm going to move your post to the Toyota Prius 2004+ discussion. Be sure and use the search box in the upper right of that discussion to find more interesting and helpful hints. Also - don't forget to post about your ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs. Honda Civic Hybrid v. Honda Insight v. ?
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DOE completes 1 million miles of hybrid electric vehicle testing
"The number of each type of hybrid electric vehicle tested, the total miles accumulated, and average fuel economy to date include: * 4 Honda Civics, 284,000 miles and 38.0 mpg * 6 Honda Insights, 347,000 miles and 46.0 mpg * 6 Toyota Prius (model years 2002 and 2003) 380,000 miles and 41.1 mpg, and * 2 Toyota Prius (model year 2004) 16,000 miles and 44.6 mpg" http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage907.html Dennis
Toyota Prius v. ??? (fill in the comparison)
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Re: Diesel Fuel [backy #3322]
I can accept that folks buy a Prius for "other reasons", i.e., first amendment rights, status, image, so called environmental reasons, techno geek is cool! syndrome, etc etc! I think if you do not consider that the hybrid is specifically designed for "basic" transportation, i.e. COMMUTING, then you are bypassing the real reason for its utility and design!!??? If not, then you will have to accept that some folks positively have ... Read More
Toyota Prius: Problems & Solutions
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Storing the Prius
We have a 2003 Prius, that we leave in our garage for as much as 3-4 months without touching it. At the advice of our Toyota dealer, when we leave we disconnect the 12V battery in the trunk from the car wiring (I actually added a little knife switch to do this). Then I keep the 12V battery on a small trickle charger. I do nothing with the nickel-metal-hydride batteries. When ... Read More
Toyota Prius Basic Care & Maintenance
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Re: Toyota Prius Owners: Care & Maintenance [KarenS #1]
Special Service Campaign 40D fixes a programming error on about 23,000 Priuses built between August 2003 and February 2004 that can cause the On Board Diagnostics to not report the causes of certain failures. It only becomes a problem during service after the car suffers one of these failures. Owners of affected VINs will get a letter from Toyota asking them to visit any dealer for the required free upgrade. Toyota ... Read More
Toyota Prius
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LA availability May 11, 2004 - try Carson Toyota
I received 2 dealers names from Edmunds, neither of which had any vehicles or helpful information. The Simi dealership told me that they were not accepting any more names for its waiting list. I called around the county and spoke to agents who did not seem very informed about the 2004, and in fact were not very professional and was told the waiting lists for the various agencies were between 6 ... Read More
Toyota Prius (First Generation)
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Re: Toyota prius service 2003 [bigfrog #1448]
My 2003 Prius has free service for 3 years. Everything that's in the owner's manual for service gets done for the 3 years. It is a handy little addition. Ed Headington
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Toyota prius service 2003
I thought prius had free service for life my mother in law has one her dealer is telling her no anyone one have any doc's on this??
Toyota Prius
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Wait Over
Ordered:Silver Pkg #3 from SC dealer on 11/24/2003. Received: White Pkg #7 from VA dealer on 4/29/2004. Yes, we decided to go to another dealer 2 weeks ago. By going to the Autotrader web site and E-Mailing many dealers in NC, KY, and VA, I found Oak Ridge Toyota in Lynchburg, VA. It is a very large dealership with large allocations of Prius's. There were 3 others there when we picked ... Read More
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Re: Such a wait... [pusterracing #265]
Great information and response. I think the TDI is a good alternative, In fact I had decided to buy a 2003 5-speed GLS Golf TDI with monsoon radio in July 2003. Didn't have heated seats or skid control. We had talked about invoice and when I went to sign the papers, they wanted $300 over and I walked. I subsequently read all the TDI forums and Prius forums and Honda hybrid. ... Read More
Hemi vs. Hybrid! Japan goes Tech, US goes ICE! Who's really winning??
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MT just released a very interesting comparison
Of the 2003 Prius, 2004 Prius, the Insight and the Civic Hybrid. The "real-world tested" economy tests runs, on an 18 mile city/highway loop in California, with all four cars driven over two days, NOSE TO TAIL, came out as follows: Name City/Hwy/Combined Insight - 55/67/60 2004 Prius - 52/54/53 2003 Prius - 50/54/52 Civic Hybrid 43/50/46 MT seemed to like the new Prius as the best car overall, siting ... Read More
Toyota Prius
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Still Frustrated in Southern California
I tell ya. I went through CarsDirect.com in August 2003 and found a dealer who promised me a package 3 Seaside Pearl by October. Now it appears as if I will never get my new car, especially if I don't want it all loaded up with extras. If Toyota advertises the Prius for $20K, but only actually stocks those for $26K, is that not bait-and-switch? A kind of fraud? --P.O.ed in ... Read More
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Prius target : 130,000
Toyota has increased the target for Year - 2004 from 76,000 to 130,000. http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=communique&newsid=492- 6 This is more than the Prius sold between 1997-2003. Its really a takeoff year. Pretty soon, the extra cost needed to make a hybrid will come down drastically.
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my Prius experience
Hello, everyone! New forum member here. My husband and I bought our Prius 2004 last year, taking possession just after Christmas. What a wonderful gift it has been! We live in Colorado, in the NW suburbs of Denver. Before we bought the Prius our only car was actually a truck, a '91 Toyota PU, V6 4WD. While most of our driving is very much short run, stop-and-go driving - back and ... Read More
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quote from www.fueleconomy.gov (EPA and DOE)
"The test used to determine the city fuel economy estimate simulates an 11-mile, stop-and-go trip with an average speed of 20 miles per hour (mph). The trip takes 31 minutes and has 23 stops. About 18 percent of the time is spent idling, as in waiting at traffic lights or in rush hour traffic. The maximum speed is 56 mph. The engine is initially started after being parked overnight. Vehicles are ... Read More
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2004 MY Prius, a cold climate fix of 2004 Prius
On Jan 6, 2004, the Prius test expert of EPA (from www.epa.gov) wrote, "Toyota has told us that the 2004 MY Prius (which was redesigned) should achieve fuel economy levels closer to the estimated values." In mid December 2003, a Toyota rep at 1-800-331-4331 said, "Toyota engineers are investigating into the low MPG concern of cold climate. They will have an answer about mid January."
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I like to use
Prius Classic (2000-2003) Prius (2004) I doubt the Prius will stay as soon as the Camry, Highlander, Corolla and RAV4 get hybrids because the Prius, like backy said, is Toyota's showcase for new tecnology.
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Prius MkI & Prius Mk II...
John "...There is no in-between term. Coin one. We'll use it..." So, this is my suggestion for US Prius: 2001 - 2003 = Prius Mark I (MkI) 2004 - until new body design = Prius Mark II (MkII) This will clarify which version of the Prius we are talking about. This has been done on other boards for "major" changes between both technical and body/cosmetic changes within the same model. Backy...good ... Read More
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washington Post article on Prius
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33199-2003Dec26_2.- html excellent article on 2004 prius and waitlist in DC area, some paragraphs on future trends in US hybrid vehicles. Excerpt: U.S. Carmakers Slow To Join Hybrid Parade Detroit to Focus on Trucks First By Greg Schneider Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, December 27, 2003; Page E01 You can test-drive a 2004 Prius at Alexandria Toyota, but if you buy one you can't take it home. The waiting list stretches ... Read More
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Prius in Delaware
I ordered my Prius on Oct. 8, 2003, before they had any demos. I got delivery on Nov. 5, 2003. White with package # 7. It came with floor mats additionally, but I would have ordered them anyway. Good salesman, Pete Cogan at Price Toyota. Cost was MSRP but they included three oil changes.
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Corolla vs. Prius
xcel - you are really wrong to compare a Corolla to a Prius. We have a 2003 Corolla LE and a 2004 Prius. The Corolla has NEVER met the EPA mileage, and neither has the Prius yet. But, in comparing the two, The Prius is now averaging 45 mpg and the Corolla 29 mpg. Corolla is a very nice, well built car but does NOT have the room, comfort, safety features, ... Read More
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Re quality
The best built Toyotas are already on the road. Maybe, but you won't convince the people surveyed by J.D. Power & Associates in their recent Initial Quality Surveys. For 2001, 2002, and 2003, Toyota dominated these quality awards, while showing improvement over that timespan. In the 2003 report, J.D. Power noted: Newly launched/redesigned vehicles from Hyundai, Toyota and the Chrysler Group also record better initial quality on average than the models ... Read More
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Build Quality - #1512
It's not just the Prius; other Toyotas that I have looked at recently have panel alignment problems. And I _do_ consider panel alignment to be a fair measure of build quality. If the manufacture doesn't care what the outside of a vehicle looks like, what sort of build quality do they have in areas that you can't see? I recently looked at five '04 Solaras on a dealer lot. Three of ... Read More
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Happy 2004 Prius Owner
I forgot to mention in my previous post that My Certificate of Origin is dated October 29, 2003. I am a long time Toyota owner having purchased my first one, a Corona many years ago. Since then, I have purchased my 20th Toyota from the same dealer and that speaks well for the cars and the dealership. The base price was $19,995, plus $515 for processing, shipping, etc., plus $5,245.00 for ... Read More
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sales figures
Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc. Retail Sales (includes fleet and Hawaii) of Prius: mon yr sales cYTD Oct 03 4,085 15,018 Sep 03 112 10,933 Aug 03 299 10,821 Jul 03 657 10,522 Jun 03 1,069 9,865 May 03 1,233 8,796 Apr 03 1,457 7,563 Mar 03 2,532 6,106 Feb 03 1,968 3,574 Jan 03 1,606 1,606 Total units of Prius sold in the US, from launch to Dec 02: ... Read More
Toyota Prius (First Generation)
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Board confusion
To Pat... this is a bit confusing. This board is in the Sedans topic. But almost all of the recent discussion is on the '04 Prius, a hatchback. However, there is a separate board in the Hatchbacks topic on the '04 Prius, but it isn't called "Toyota Prius 2004+" to be consistent with other boards that start anew with a new model (like the board on the '04 Sienna), it's "2004 ... Read More
Toyota Prius
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no title
W/R/T Virginia's tax credits: The tax advantages of purchasing a Prius or other hybrid here may not be as generous as those of other states, but the value of driving in the HOV lanes is incalculable for residents of Hampton Roads and Northern Virginia (the two areas of the state with HOV restrictions) whose commutes would benefit from using them. Right now I can't afford a new Prius anyway (and am ... Read More
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deduction, not a tax credit
2004 Toyota Prius Certified for Clean-Burning Fuel Deduction IR-2003-114, Oct. 6, 2003 WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service has certified the 2004 Toyota Prius as being eligible for the clean-burning fuel deduction. The certification means taxpayers who purchase a new hybrid vehicle may claim a tax deduction of up to $2,000 on Form 1040. Federal tax law allows individuals to claim a deduction for the incremental cost of buying a ... Read More
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US production allotment
I've heard from several reputable sources that the original US production allotment of 36,000 units has now increased to 41,000 units for the 2004 Prius. I just wish that they'd ship them here sooner! But, the home market has also seen a high demand for the new 2004, so hopefully they've increased production all around, and not just borrowed from one market to help the other... to put the US allotment ... Read More
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MPG 04 Prius ?
I have noticed that with most Hybrids, Honda and Toyota, it appears that the EPA numbers are somewhat inflated when compared to regular vehicles. I currrently have a 2003 VW Jetta GL/5-speed/ TurboCharged Diesel, that with 27,500 miles my overall average MPG is 55.3. Percentages are 75 highway and about 25% city driving. I drive conversatively but keep up with the regular flow of traffic. Note: My EPA is 50Hwy and ... Read More
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