1994 Mercedes-Benz S-Class - Consumer Discussions

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• Re: Rest of the Auto Show [tagman]

  Written by: merc1 on Nov 22, 2006 10:21:15 PM

  I saw this and was reminded of your push for the E-Class to be included on the old HELM board. A little history on the E-Class: W120/W121 1953-1962. Also known as Ponton. W110 "Heckflosse / Fintail", 1959-1968 W114/W115 "Strich-8" 1967-1976 W123, 1976-1985 W124, 1985-1995 My personal favorite E of all time so far, the car I saw so much growing up. It was also the "300E" from this model series that ... Read More

• Mercedes-Benz - A short lesson...

  Written by: merc1 on Oct 25, 2006 11:41:25 PM

  Yes Tag the CLS is a fancy, very fancy E-Class right down to the lugnuts. Such a stunning job they did in converting it huh? The interior uses the same hardpoints as the E, but the materials and trim are different. The big ole plank of wood really sets it off. The small MB SUV will be the GLK, not the MLK. MLK couldn't be used for obvious reasons. Lexusguy, you ... Read More

• Re: wild speculations and examples [lexusguy]

  Written by: stevekilburn on May 6, 2006 4:09:01 PM

  LS has beaten european helms in every measure except driving dynamics and heritage. In fact in heritage, only mercedes has some kind of distinct superiority. A8 was introduced in 1994 (1997 in North America) and 7-series came about in 1978.

• head-to-head with A8 and 7, tremendous value over S550

  Written by: stevekilburn on May 4, 2006 8:54:46 PM

  Your comment "Your argument is still a campaign to get the most money possible, as YOU see it. That is no longer value" would have been correct if I had said "LS 460 should be priced 82K and 460L should be 86K to match S550" But thats not what I said. I said "LS 460 should be head-to-head with A8 and 7" so actually there is still "TREMENDOUS" value, more than ... Read More

• Re: SV [ljflx]

  Written by: sv7887 on Mar 17, 2006 10:21:14 AM

  Hi All, I think Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The person who spoke of the Golden Age is the Head Mechanic at my Lexus dealer. Other mechanics have made the same comment. You can argue that there is nicer leather and what not in the 1995+ models and I'll have to agree with you. Mind you the 1995 was very similar to the 1994 mechanically. It had the ... Read More

• Re: CD changer [ljflx]

  Written by: merc1 on Nov 15, 2005 10:16:42 PM

  MB had to drop the price of their cars in 1999 because of price pressure, most notably from Lexus. That was before the quality took a big plunge and before the perception of the quality problems became real. This isn't totally correct. Mercedes dropped prices of the S-Class in 1999 (for the 2000 MY) because the previous car was seen as too big, overweight and too expensive in certain markets so ... Read More

• 300E

  Written by: merc1 on Nov 10, 2005 9:18:27 PM

  Well guys I didn't say that the 300E was "inspiring" or that it was better than Audi's styling at the time. I said that it was the car that got me interested in the Mercedes-Benz brand. Compared to the brand of car I liked most then the 300E was very much different. I had already known about and liked Audi before really having anything to do with a Mercedes. Secondly, bland, ... Read More

• Hats and Rabbits

  Written by: designman on Oct 21, 2005 11:26:00 AM

  Computers are no magic any more these days! They may not be magic to kids who are born today, but I like many others have put some serious time in the trenches before the computer epoch. Because of this and remembering what my field went through in the transition period between 1984 and 1994, computers never cease to amaze me. I have up to 10 apps open simultaneously throughout the course ... Read More

• Re: Pricing Point [oac]

  Written by: stroudman on Apr 22, 2005 10:32:29 AM

  please read my posts more carefully...I said just because you, and by you I mean the soldiers of the Toyota army who post here, can spend more on a car than the LS costs, but choose not to, doesn't mean everyone else in this market has the same option. A $60-65k LS can probably be leased in the $800's per month. An S430 average lease (36 months, 15k per year) is ... Read More

• Re: S class safe? [ctsang]

  Written by: tiag_m5 on Mar 9, 2005 10:35:50 PM

  If MB is so safe, why did Princess Diana die? I bet she would survive if she were in a Lexus. I was waiting for someone to bring that up :) If you knew any of the details, you would know that this only proves how safe MB is. Let me explain: The 1994 S-Class that Princess Diana was riding in had the most advanced safety features and structural design of ... Read More

• Re: [syswei]

  Written by: jovialanus on Feb 24, 2005 12:46:17 AM

  "What has MB done for the industry in the last 15 years?...Yes, MB has managed to do more here in 120 years than Lexus has in 15. " You must have been living under a rock for the last 15 years. Even if we disregard countless Mercedes innovations and only include those introduced since 1989 Mercedes STILL trumps Lexus by a wide margin. Virtually every safety feature in every Lexus car ... Read More

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• Re: MERCEDES-BENZ TIMEPORT MOTOROLA CELL PHONE [georget3]

  Written by: georget3 on Dec 26, 2004 9:04:39 AM

  I got some answers to my own Timeport cell phone question. A VZ sales representative at Palisades Center told me that the newer Motorola phones will not work in the MB integrated system.   So, once we paid the $2k plus for the option, we basically are stuck with what we got. This reminds of the similar problem I had with my 1994 BMW 740 integrated car phone.

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• michael_mattox

  Written by: merc1 on Aug 1, 2004 10:15:27 PM

  This is amazing. (Last Post) "In your previous post the chart showed 700+ units and you said that was US sales???? I accept 1700+ for the SL500....Allante sold 6700 in 93." No chart or link I ever posted said anything like that. Period. It said (they MBUSA.COM) said 1721 sales for 1993. End of story. You said 700 or 800 in your confused state. The link didn't change from one posting ... Read More

• Re: michael_mattox [michael_mattox]

  Written by: merc1 on Jul 31, 2004 4:34:10 AM

  Mike I'm going to do this point by point so you don't get any more confused. "When I talked about 250 HP that was for Pre 1993...Since I am sticking to comparing 93 Allante to 93 SL500 in order to try and avoid your dancing around issues by switching between models and year." Ok pre-1993, you mean from the 1987-1992 models right? The 500SL came out for 1990 Mike and it ... Read More

• michael_mattox

  Written by: merc1 on Jul 29, 2004 6:03:43 PM

  It is painfully obvious that you don't have a clue about the Mercedes SL. You seem to be the only one that is "confused" here. Everyone else has pretty much agreed that the SL was the superior car. The question is whether or not the Allante is so lame that its sole supporter is reduced to harping about trunk space over a decent top design, you know something that most people ... Read More

• michael_mattox

  Written by: merc1 on Jun 2, 2004 9:59:20 PM

  Mike you constantly mention things that have no logic. We're talking about price and sales and how they relate, you mention that "America has chosen with their wallets". You're right that is simple and takes no thought to reach that conclusion. Until you bring a logical point to the table why would I bother. Simplistic is right. "Your game is to always provide a moving target rarely give straight answers, jump ... Read More

• boo20

  Written by: syswei on Oct 3, 2003 2:05:19 PM

  Well, since the S430 costs 31% more than the LS430, is 9% slower 0-60, has 5% less HP and 8% less torque, it had better be "superior" in SOME ways to SOME people, else MB would sell zero units. Hands down, MB wins in sheer prestige. Aesthetics are a personal judgement, and in my personal opinion the S does offer more attractive exterior styling (but not necessarily interior). As far as ... Read More

• boo20

  Written by: lenscap on Oct 3, 2003 6:50:25 AM

  "Just for kicks I test drove a new (2003) E 500 sport the other day...My first impression is that this is an absolutely solid car." Obviously people have different opinions. No one car is for everybody. But I'm curious if you saw this letter in the most recent AutoWeek: "I have owned three E-Class Mercedes: a 1990, a 1994 and a 1998 4Matic. The quality between the 1990 and the 1998 ... Read More

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• throwing in my two cents

  Written by: xsnowmanx on Apr 26, 2002 11:24:20 PM

  It seems that there's quite the discussion on the quality/reliability of recent Mercedes cars. I have seen data that points out that they're reliable and ones that say that they're not. Here's the way that I look at it. If you want Benz S Class, you're not really going to be looking at all the things you look for in an economy car. You're not really going to look at reliabilty ... Read More

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• 500E

  Written by: merc1 on Mar 27, 2002 8:16:06 AM

  Yes it was an incredible car! Yep it was built/tested/tweaked by Porsche. Automobile called it the best car in the world "by which we will judge all automobiles". If I didn't need a "new" car this would be the used Benz of choice, a 1994 model (E500) that is. True about Lexus and their benchmark target, that's another way of putting it. But you have to admit that BMW's performance angle ... Read More

• bernard1

  Written by: merc1 on Mar 26, 2002 10:03:23 PM

  You're missing the point about profits. What you've just stated about the Carrera GT is common sense, orders = car. My point is that Japanese companies wouldn't even bother with a car like the Carrera GT. The Japanese wouldn't see the point of a car like a M5 or Carrera GT, though they have the ability to produce such cars. I would doubt that about the profit margin on the M5, ... Read More

• ljflx

  Written by: merc1 on Mar 18, 2002 10:05:26 PM

  That's true....*somewhat*, but trust me I know that the LS430 won't be full redesigned until at least 2006. Not even Toyota could re-do the entire car from the ground up in just 2 years of being on the market, it simply doesn't make business sense. My postion on redo is that if a car is a great design it can last 5-7 years, look at the previous 7-Series and S-Class. To ... Read More

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• ADVICE SOUGHT: 1994 S-series Benz

  Written by: christchurch on Feb 20, 2001 9:41:46 PM

  I am interested in anyone who has owned or currently owns the previous s-500 series Benz, particularly a 1994. Nearing 90,000 miles, I am interested in what problems you have encountered and that I should watch for. Any advice on preventative maintanance? Would you share, also, your personal reflections on the car.... pros and cons. How long would you advise I keep the car? Any expierence? Has anyone added an extended ... Read More

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• ljflx (re: post #582)

  Written by: merc1 on Feb 18, 2001 4:34:22 AM

  Thank you. Well as far as the C looking like the S, it's always been that way. The previous C from 1994-2000 looked just like the S-Class from 1992-1999 (the infamous W140-Tanks) the 190E looked like the 420/560SEL's of the day. The previous C, especially at night was almost impossible to tell from the 1999 S-Class if the car was coming from behind you. Now granted the new C is an ... Read More

• Get Your Facts Straight quattro_pearl

  Written by: scongro on Jun 28, 2000 1:13:15 AM

  Mercedes-Benz initiated a Displacement-Badging system, but in 1994, so the "e320, e420, e430, e55, s300, s320, s420, maybe s430, s500, s560, s600 and don't get me started on the, C, ML, SL" don't count. The 300e switched to a 3.2L engine in 1993, but retained the "300" part of the name, and the 400e NEVER had a 4.0L V8 engine. As you can see, the Mercedes-Benz model line roughly followed displacement-badging, ... Read More