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Re: Good deal in Seattle [ricksv70]
by blckislandguy on Sat Sep 15 06:36:39 PDT 2007
Rick, agree with everything you said except about all leather "eventually cracking" . We have had our '01 XC now for 86K miles and several dogs, including an Irish Wolfehound, and the leather looks good with almost zero care. I think Volvo had the world by the you know what when they came out with the XC wagons in the late 90's but they haven't kept up. Although some would say it is not a direct competitor, take a look at the BMW X3: 5K less than an X5 but faster with more room; compared to the XC it has more zip and is a lot more fun. The Volvo value proposition is getting less and less compelling than it was a decade ago: the cars have stood still and are now quite boring, the dealers are no better, the customer service hasn't been benchmarked against contemporary standards, and there are now many other alternatives. The XC is only a good deal if you can steal one cheap!
Re: Recent Lease XC 90 [jmcavagnol]
by Car_man on Wed Nov 22 05:35:42 PST 2006
Congratulations on your new ride, jmcavagnol. The main negative of leasing for only two years are that two year lease payments are usually higher than three and four year payments on equivalent vehicles. This is because new vehicles experience their highest rate of depreciation during the first year of ownership. Consumers who lease for longer terms, like two or three years, have a larger number of monthly payments to spread out this large initial depreciation hit out over than consumers who only lease for two years. Of course, there are exceptions to the shorter is more expensive rule. From time to time some manufacturers actually provide additional support on short leases to make them less expensive, but this is not the norm. Also, when consumers lease new vehicles they have to pay an acquisition fee at signing. I believe that Volvo Finance currently charges a $595 fee. Consumers who lease for shorter terms do not get to ride their initial acquisition fee for as long as consumers who lease for longer terms do. The bottom line is that there's nothing wrong with short leases, especially if you get bored with vehicles and want a new one every couple of years. Consumers who only lease for two years usually have to pay a little more than consumers who lease for longer terms though. Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum
S60R 2006 Quote in NJ, any good ?
by henry3 on Tue Apr 04 14:27:53 PDT 2006
Hi, I'm considering few cars right now and have been intrigued by the Volvo S60R. I haven't test drove this thing yet, never really considered Volvo for its rather boring statue. As I said, the S60R seem to be getting good enough reviews and considering the only other option I have in this price range and size would be Acura TL (I like this car but there are so many on the road I'd rather stand out a bit more with my car, is it shallow, selfish, whatever, that's what I want). In any case, quote I got from one of the NJ dealers follows: 2006 S60R Climate package, Automatic, metallic paint $34,500 doc fee $125 tire tax $7.50 It's a pretty basic config, I don't care much for the CD changer or the sunroof in the premium package. Other thing I might be interested in would be the sport body package but it seems pricey and if the plain one looks good enough I won't bother unless someone here can convince me otherwise. So, is the above a good enough price or are they low balling me ? With these huge incentives/cash back etc. it's hard to figure out how low the dealers can actually go... Please advise..
Re: V70 2.4 manual trans. performance and price [ldtm]
by drelb on Wed Mar 08 09:46:39 PST 2006
We bought exactly the same car in the 2005 model, except with Titanium grey metallic. Paid 29K We love it--no problems at all thus far. It gets 30-32 mpg on the highway, which was a pleasant surprise. It handles and corners surprisingly well, and the pickup with the manual (even with the non-turbo 2.4) is really pretty good: at lights, my boring wagon regularly smokes those turkeys in 'sport sedans' with automatic transmissions. Drelb
Re: Getting ready to buy... [divewreck]
by whodey on Sun Apr 03 09:58:15 PDT 2005
Hi divewreck - I seriously looked at used Lexus ES300, used S60 and new Acura TSX. I chose S40 for a few reasons (in no particular order) - 1) safety reputation, 2) I don't want another used car - at least not the Lexus that is very nice but very boring, 3) I have questions about Volvo long-term costs so I decided against the used S60, 4) I currently drive and '96 Accord and I felt like the TSX was just a glorified Accord, 5) I don't see them everywhere I turn and 6) I really like the way it looks. I love Honda/Acura reliability but if I can get the S40 with premium, auto, climate and a few extras for $25ish, that is what I want to do. My mother's favorite car she's ever had was her XC and that includes E class and Inifiniti QX4 - and that was back when Mercedes made high quality and more reliable cars. Do you have an S40? How was your buying experience? I've never really had to negotiate as I inherited my wife's Accord when we bought her an Odyssey a few years ago - they wasn't much negotiation involved - "The cost is $24,500 - do you want it or not?"
Re: Re: Compare it with the OSD price, slh [lev_berkovich #104] [gugal #121] [lev_berkovich #122] [gugal #123]
by lev_berkovich on Wed Apr 14 14:15:32 PDT 2004
Number one - I will urge you to hurry-up. I have heard that the 2004 OSD quota is expired, or is expiring. The ordered car takes 12-15 weeks to build, so you might be too late for June. Gothenburg itself is pretty boring. This is typical industrial European city. I would strongly recommend to visit Stockholm, it's one of the European gems. It's very lively and beautiful. It is within the easy 3-4h drive from the Gothenburg, and the route by the lakes is very scenic on it's own. Summer is good there. It's not too hot. I would recommend two options: 1. Pick-up and drop off in Gothenburg.(Three advantages - it's free, you have one night for free and you can take the factory tour). - Fly in on Sunday, do all the sightseens in the afternoon, stay overnight for free - Take a delivery and a factory tour (very entertaining). - Drive to Stockholm and spend three - four nights there. - Drive back to Gothenburg on Friday, drop the car and fly home. 2. Pick-up and drop-off in Stockholm. (You have to pay some nominal fee, but you do not have to drive. Volvo will help you with the hotel arrangements. The prices from their travel agency are decent. Volvo also offers a couple of Scandinavian tours. You will find all the details on the Volvocars.us web site http://volvocars.us/FinancialServices/Overseas/

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