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Re: Chat night [adder80]
by fury1995 on Fri Jul 21 05:41:50 PDT 2006
Yes the 5-speed R/T (25X) was showing up in the ordering system (TOPS) and you could theoretically order it but it had a 0% chance being built. All 25X orders sat in BG status and were then cancelled. Only after Junes schedule out was finished were those packages available.
Re: What is a VON? [callaways]
by fury1995 on Fri Jul 21 05:31:05 PDT 2006
The VON# is the "Vehicle Order Number". The VON# is given the very moment the vehicle is ordered. It has nothing to do with the VIN#. Any vehicle ordered by the dealer is given a VON# whether it will or won't be built. The vehicle is given a VIN# when it enters "Firm Schedule" or "D" status. One of the major issues has been the fact that most all of the earlier Calibers that were ordered were classified as "06" model year even though the Caliber is an '07 model and included in 2006 allocations. Build out for ALL 2006 was on May 15th. If the dealer had a factory order or "sold unit" WITH a customer name on the order, the factory "flipped" the unit to a "sold '07" unit. ALL OTHERS were cancelled by the manufacture. Dealers then had to re-order all of the Calibers again when the June allocation opened. On another note, fleet vehicles (ie. rentals) had continued to come in because they were also considered "sold units".
Re: D status vs. D1 status [kirstie_h]
by fury1995 on Thu Jul 20 10:06:17 PDT 2006
Thanks for the welcome!
Re: D status vs. D1 status [bigtsr]
by fury1995 on Thu Jul 20 09:07:22 PDT 2006
Sorry to jump in on this discussion so late but I just wanted to shed a little light on this particular point. "D" stuatus is basically the same as "D1" status, both status means the vehicle has been ordered and scheduled but there may not be allocation yet to build it. An ordered unit could also have been issued a VIN number prior to being built. After the unit moves from "D" status, it could fly through "E" (framing), "F" (paint), "G" (trim), "I" (inpection) status in 48 hours or less. Then it moves to "J" status (released from plant) where transport takes over and the dealer starts paying for it - which is where the waiting begins..... This is taken directly from the website: Q. Why are units sitting in D – D1 for a month? A. It is not uncommon for products to sit in D status for 30 days. We are on a monthly allocation, so when a vehicle line is covered on allocation, the unit will build in the proper week. Units can sit in D anywhere from 15-45 days depending on when it was ordered. Units will then move to D1 and typically sit anywhere from 5-12 days before finally move through the assembly line. Q. How long does it take for a vehicle to get built and shipped to the store? A. To assist in reducing the customer complaints we are encountering in the time it takes to get a vehicle built and shipped to the dealer, please inform your sales staff on the following: Dealers taking sold orders: Approximate time for the vehicle to be built and shipped to the dealer: 10 Weeks. New Products: 12 Weeks example: Ordered: 6/11 (within allocation period), Estimated build month: August Arrival at dealership: Mid September. *If a vehicle order is taken after the allocation period, the unit will not schedule until the next allocation period, adding approximately 2 more weeks.Vehicles coming out of Mexico: Average in transit time coming from Mexico: 25 Days from when the vehicle goes KZ. As far as waiting for ordered cars go, neither the manufacture (Dodge) or the dealer has any control over how long a vehicle takes to ship. The transportation/carrier company is completely in charge of shipping cars and trucks and dealers (and consumers) are at their mercy. Once the vehicle has been invoiced to the dealer (released by the plant- also known as "J" status), the dealer is paying interest on their floorplan (finance charges) for that vehicle. Dealers want those cars off of their floorplan ASAP. If a dealer had any control over shipping, you can bet the cars would be shipped at lightning speed but unfortunately that isn't how the process works. It is always in the dealers best interest to move cars quickly so you can probrably guess the dealer is waiting with as much anticipation as any consumer who has been waiting on ordered car. You probably have also guessed I am affiliated with the auto industry so I have a little more insight on how this works. If you would like any advice in this area, I would be happy to help. I may also be able to explain why a dealer would this or that as well.

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