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2009 Toyota Prius Consumer Discussions
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Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experiences
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Please advice in making a decision
Planning to purchase a Toyota Prius used (2009-2010) models, appreciate which model should be i looking at , I have a offer for a 2009 Prius with 29000 miles from a Honda dealer for about 20,500 out of the door. Appreciate your feedback TIA
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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2004-2009 Toyota Prius Lease Questions
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Re: Newbie Lease question: Prius [GaryMF]
Hi Gary. If you choose to, you can take advantage of Toyota's special lease program on the 2009 Prius and go with a zero down lease. Even though manufacturers usually include down payments on their advertised leases, consumers are always free to go with a zero down lease if they want to. If I was in your situation, I personally would shop around in the New York area for the lowest ... Read More
Toyota Prius Suspension/Steering Problems
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prius 2009 alignment problems
I have a 2009 prius and had to replace 2 tires at 15000 miles and have it re-aligned. I had the alignment checked again in 3 months and it was out of alignment. Put it back into alignment and had it checked again in another 3 months and it was out of alignment again. Toyota was absolutely no help and just blew me off. Needless to say I am not happy ... Read More
Toyota Prius Electrical and Lighting Questions
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Re: Sudden loss of power doing 65 MPH [wingman]
2009 Prius 15000 miles No Nav My wifes prius has experienced this exact issue on two ocassions. The first time Toyota took the car and 3 days later with the help of HQ stated that there was a loose communications wire that connects the battery monitor system with the control computer. The second time they took the vehicle and it is still in the shop. This is a large disappointment as ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Re: Prius Brakes issue [smt1]
I read that they redesigned the braking systems for the 2010 Prius. That appears to be Toyota's response to the fact that the U.S. Generation 2 Prius (2004-2009) has had low-speed brake failures reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at 31 times the rate of such failures reported for the 2004-2009 Corolla, which of course has traditional brakes. reliable cars
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brakes problems
Prius 2009. Came home on January 29- no problems. Next morning- high pitch system whistle; ABS, brakes and VSC lights are "on" and brakes are working terribly. Went to the Toyota dealer- they told me that they never heard about a problem like this before and wanted me to pay $180 just for inspecting the car. I did not trust "never heard about a problem like this before" talk and went ... Read More
Toyota Corolla 0W-20 oil - What's this about?
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Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [terceltom]
It is for all 2010 Toyota engines that use 0W-20 fully synthetic oil... as an FYI, I used to own a new 2010 4Runner (0W-20/10,000) but because of poor MPG and other reasons, I traded in for the 2010 Prius and I know that all 2010 Toyota engines that use 0W-20 engine oil, the oil change interval is 10,000 miles and had to call Toyota corporate to mail me the 2010 ... Read More
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Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [agnosto]
"Prius maintenance booklet that states oil changes is for every 10,000 miles (5k miles is for tire rotation, etc.) for all new Toyota models" So are you saying this new recommendation is for just the Prius or ALL new 2010 Toyota vehicles and going forward? I'm still from the old school; even though I use 0W-20 synthetic oil in my 2009 Corolla I still change it every 3000 miles. I know ... Read More
Toyota Prius Paint Quality?
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2010 Cobalt Blue Prius-poor paint
We bought a Prius September 2009. This car has MANY scratches in the paint all over the car.There are scratches/nicks in the hood that go down to the metal. I have driven for 20+ years and have NEVER had so much damage show up in a car that is only a year old. I will never buy a Toyota car again. I really feel Toyota has chosen to go cheap with ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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First Ford Explorer Now Toyota Prius
In 1999 I purchased a Ford Explorer. Soon after the purchase the stuff hit the fan about the Firestone tires and Explorer rollovers. After the media hype and hysteria calmed down the problem involved Firestone tires that were blowing out during the last third of their lives and the subsequent rollovers of the Explorers. The hysteria about how unstable Explorers were had some truth to it, but the laws of physics ... Read More
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2010 Prius Brake Fix :- [
I purchased a 2010 Prius IV in June 2009. I had no complaints until the weather got cold. I live in Kansas and between Nov and March of each year it is below freezing most of the time. Then in Nov 09 I noticed the brakes would give out just for a fraction of a second when coming to a 'soft' stop, like at a stop sign. It happened once every ... Read More
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class action suit?
Hi Everyone, I had posted a while back about my accident in Dec 2009 that I had with my 2009 Prius, where my brakes failed at a low speed and rear-ended the car in front of me. I've been seeing lately a lot of people noting that 2nd gens have been also experiencing the problems and are upset that Toyota hasn't done anything to find a solution. I am one that ... Read More
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Re: Spoiled Food for Thought [07prius]
Look, I'm sorry that it came across so harsh but it has to do with citing credible sources. Our local newspaper has a letters to the editor section and every now and then "people not in touch with reality" post complete nonsense. If I were to cite their letter as a source, any and everyone would be right to condemn me for introducing a bad source. Remember, even fibbers can post. ... Read More
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Re: STILL CONFUSED Re: Spoiled Food for Thought [masterpanda]
I called my dealer and got an appointment the same day - my computer has now been reflashed. Motivation? After feeling the symptoms just once since I got the car last August, this past Friday I felt it twice. I wish I could feel complete confidence in the upgrade, since I know that most software is not written from scratch but modified from previous versions, and I am convinced that eventually ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: I have no issue with Hybrids [bwilson4web]
Sorry Charlie, The TDI still holds All the MPG records for anything over a short jaunt to the liquor store. And the VW TDI passes CARB emissions with flying colors. Green Car of the year. Green Car of the WORLD. I don't think VW could be any happier. Plus being Numero uno automaker for 2009. And well on the way for 2010. I look for Toyota to slip back to third ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Food for Thought
Interesting message post from http://reviews.cnet.com/coupe-hatchback/2005-toyota-prius/4864-10867_7-31352228-- 2.html?ord=creationDate+desc&tag=rtcol;uo: ""High Rate of Low Speed Brake Failure in 2004-2009 Prius" by ganderc on April 7, 2009 Pros: Great car except for the brakes. Cons: Has a rate of low speed brake failures 31 times that of a traditionally-braked car (Corolla). Many result in rear-ending the car ahead with no injury. Summary: I read that they redesigned the braking systems for the 2010 Prius. That appears ... Read More
Prius and filling the tank
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Bye ... bye ... Prius ... no more hybrids for me!
My 2008 Toyota Prius has had challenges with both filling the "tank" and calculating mileage since I purchased the car. I have never expected the car's average mileage to be dead on, but close would be nice. I certainly never expected not to be able to fill up my gas tand wither. I just got back from another lengthly road trip. In the summer, I still have challenges acutally getting the ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: Prius brake recall [bwilson4web]
Another case where you cannot believe a word Toyota says. Hopefully you did get a fix for your brakes. TORRANCE, Calif., February 8, 2010 – Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc, today announced it will conduct a voluntary safety recall on approximately 133,000 2010 Model Year Prius vehicles to update software in the vehicle’s antilock brake system (ABS). No other Toyota vehicles are involved in this recall. The recall will allow ... Read More
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Re: rehashing reliability is old-hat [winter2]
You mentioned: "Let us hook up the equivalent weight to the 2010 Prius and then see what happens. But then again, I do not know anyone who commutes in a Kenworth, Freightliner or Volvo truck." The technical term is power-to-weight ratio and that pretty well defines hill climbing performance for any vehicle ... even a diesel. You also mentioned: "So Toyota gave the gas engine 22 more HP and 23 more ... Read More
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Re: rehashing reliability is old-hat [backy]
Hmm. Let us hook up the equivalent weight to the 2010 Prius and then see what happens. But then again, I do not know anyone who commutes in a Kenworth, Freightliner or Volvo truck. So Toyota gave the gas engine 22 more HP and 23 more lb-ft of torque. They raped the electric side dropping torque by 142 lb-ft to 153 lb-ft versus 295 lb-ft for the 2007 - 2009. I ... Read More
Toyota Prius Engine Problems
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Re: Dealer suggesting battery & possible inverter replacement... [jonnied]
My 2005 Prius with 80K miles has done the same thing (same symptoms, always on the freeway) four times starting in Dec 2009. It is at the dealer now. The last time I took it in (Jan 10) this dealer consulted Toyota and they "recommended" replacing the the fuel pump, which requires replacing the gas tank and costs $1000+. The dealer's service supervisor offered that they were not sure it was ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: rehashing reliability is old-hat [elias]
Well let's start with some facts and data along with with sources: "- legroom, you don't show there's more legroom than TDI" The specific 'legroom' is rear seat legroom, which you accidently left off: "Legroom, rear (in.) 35.4" - Edmunds Insight review of 2009 Jetta TDI "Rear Leg Room: 36 in." - Edmunds review Prius 2010 "- low emissions, you don't show that it's lower than TDI" Actually the California Air ... Read More
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great time to testdrive a prius
thanks for prius suspension/etc info. it should be a great time to testdrive a prius also, If one were to actually buy a new Prius now, one might become worshipped by hordes of toyota salespeople - similar to "Vaal" from the original star-trek: http://martinimadness.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/vaal.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ_TZ2pUctk
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Insurance Co$t, Fuel Co$t
The NHTSA publishes an annual "Relative Collision Insurance Cost Information Booklet" with the latest being 2009. It reports the relative insurance costs and finds: 103 - Prius Hybrid 110 - Jetta Looks like the Jetta costs more to insure. The EPA maintains a fuel efficiency web site that individual users can record their mileage and we find: 40.1 MPG (27 vehicles) - 2009 Jetta TDI diesel, automatic, compact car 46.5 MPG ... Read More
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Re: REAL-WORLD DATA [backy]
So, you've driven the 2010 Prius with the braking s/w update applied? Not even on my radar. I rode a lot with a preacher friend I recommended getting a Prius. It was a 2009 and rough riding noisy and just nothing I could consider. The only reason I would buy the Golf TDI is for running errands and back country drives. I sat in a GTI and liked the seats. I ... Read More
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Re: Golf TDI #1 March 2010 Consumer Reports [moparbad]
Toyota problems are systemic, there is no reasonable expectation that Prius will be excluded. There is a lot of reason to expect overall strong reliability for the Prius. See for example the reliability scores for the Prius in CR. That is a strong historical record. OTOH, I don't know how you can look at the current software problem and extrapolate that the car will be unreliable in general. VWs are reliable. ... Read More
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Re: REAL-WORLD DATA [schong]
Amazing how the Prius could be so gosh-darned unreliable yet be one of the top 5 most reliable cars as of spring 2009 per CR's surveys. Also the "most satisfying" car to own per those same surveys. Also the best for used-car reliability. I notice how you left out the 2009 MY. Was that because there were only 137 complaints that year? You also left out the first two years of ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Re: 2009 Brake problem [phaters]
Please see my previous post #81 I took my Prius in and had them look at it on Dec 15th a couple of weeks after I had the accident. They said that everything checked out fine and that it was probably my anti lock brakes kicking in(I moved to Seatlle from Minnesota and I know what anti locke brakes feel like, that wasn't the problem). Since then going down the same ... Read More
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Toyota Prius braking issues may predate 2010 model; other problems reported
Toyota Prius braking issues may predate 2010 model; other problems reported Toyota Prius braking issues may predate 2010 model; other problems reported Could the apparent braking problems reported on the Toyota Prius – which Toyota admits was an issue on the current model prior to being resolved earlier this year – extend past the recently released 2010 model? According to TheDetroitBureau.com, the answer is a resounding... maybe. The third generation of ... Read More
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2009 Prius brake problems
I just found this forum, too. I thought I was alone. On the morning of June 9, 2009 I was traveling South on I-93 near the town of Medford, MA. I was on my way to Logan Airport to return the 2009 Toyota Prius I had rented that previous Wednesday. It was approximately 9:30 AM; the freeway was still bumper-to-bumper with rush hour traffic. I was in the left-hand lane of ... Read More
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Prius Brake Failure/Delay - Dallas, TX
Has anyone who has experienced the Prius brake failure/delay reported it to one of the Toyota dealers in the Dallas, TX area? I called all the service managers in the Dallas area and all of them denied this problem exists and said they had never had anyone report it to them. A few of them claimed all of these were made up stories from people who didn't want the Prius to ... Read More
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2009 Brake problem
I had a problem with my 2009 Prius a few days ago, scared me to death. I was driving down a hill and the roads were wet. I was going about 30mph. The car in front of me hit the brakes due to the guy in front of her decided he wanted to turn right. Anyway, I hit the brakes and the car started jumping! It felt like it was in ... Read More
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lurching and surging when braking
2010 Prius. First Prius, about my 5th Toyota, 20th car. First the lurch when going over a pot hole. I live in the mountains and have experienced this twice, and I am sure I can repeat it whenever I'd like, which I wouldn't. It was disturbing, but I was non-plused noting immediately that it did not effect my braking distance, but it is a "spooky" feeling - like hitting ice without ... Read More
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Prius Brake Issues
Well, it happened to me yesterday (September 19,2009). I was in love with my 2008 Prius (despite having to spend a couple of hours to figure out how to operate the danged thing). I was pulling out of a parking lot, moving very slowly ,when I saw a car turn the corner and drive down the street which I was entering. I immediately applied the brakes HARD and to my dismay, ... Read More
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Re: Take responsibility for your own driving. [hal_cat]
I had a similar experience with my 2009 Prius and have been driving it for months. The braking system is different than my previous Corolla- but I have adapted to it and there was nothing I could have done in my accident in Dec. 2009 where my brakes failed to work at a low speed. When I applied my brakes there was no response, no acceloration no slow down. I tried ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: November poll - voting results are in [gagrice]
>> Toyota Hybrids have peaked in sales and are headed down hill Afraid of what the first 12 months of 2010 Prius sales will bring, eh? Including the final 5 months of older generation sales (Jan-May 2009) and disregarding the down economy is rather obvious greenwashing. It's called cherry picking. Waiting for an entire full year of data will confirm strong sales that the newest generation design. Watch the numbers in ... Read More
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Re: November poll - voting results are in [gagrice]
With rare exception, buyers spending $20-30,000 choose based upon price-performance and availability. The 2010 Prius gets better mileage than any of the TDI vehicles including highway. It is a midsize sedan and TDIs come in compact and one rare wagon. So I'm not terribly worried about buyer votes. One of the least persuasive arguments is what others are buying. Discussions about hybrid vs diesel sales has most merit if one is ... Read More
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Re: November poll - voting results are in [bwilson4web]
I know you like the Prius and that is good. But Toyota Hybrids have peaked in sales and are headed down hill WORLD WIDE. From 429,700 in 2008 to 291,700 in 2009. While the 2010 Golf TDI was named both "green car of the year" and "World Car of the Year". The Golf has averaged 714,000 sales per year for its 35 years of existence. The Prius has averaged 109,000 cars ... Read More
Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experiences
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2010 3rd Generation Prius Sale!
2010 3rd Generation Prius Sale! You are invited to a silent sale on the 2010 Prius at Earl Stewart Toyota. For the remainder of November 2009, all of our new, in-stock 2010 Prius will be sold at dealer invoice. And, as always at Earl Stewart Toyota, no Dealer Fees. Please note that dealer invoice is not our dead cost. We're still making a profit. Please see below for more details. This ... Read More
2010 Prius - Next Generation
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Re: Prius for Brazil [victorbrazil]
Are you buying 2010 or 2009 models. I think that makes a big difference. I have a 2004 (same as 2009) which has had no real problems other than TSB's that were applied, at no cost, by my nearby Toyota dealer. Some of those were major.(anew fuel system, a new display and dashboard innards etc., other were minor. While the 2010 model is superior in performance and mileage, I would recommend ... Read More
Extended Warranty Opinions
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Toyota Prius extended warranty
I have a 2009 Toyota Prius 34,500 miles. I drive an average of 30,000 miles a year. any suggestion regarding extended warranty? Do I need it? I've been checking prices and they are expensive. I appreciate any advise.
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: wow [gagrice]
I would not hold my breath for Toyota to offer a Plug-in hybrid. No need to... Toyota will unveil its long anticipated plug-in hybrid Prius at the Frankfurt Motor Show. In early 2010, over 500 Prius PHEVs will be leased to fleet customers in Japan, the United States, and Europe. These pre-production cars will let Toyota evaluate their performance in a real-world environment before full-scale production starts. Retail sales are planned ... Read More
Prius Owners w/50K - What We Think Now
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Prius odor issues - responses appreciated
I've got a new 2009 Prius. At just over 3000 miles it began to exude an odor like burning plastic. Odor got strong enough to permeate clothing and make my eyes burn. Dealer has tried 3X to figure out what's causing it. Third time they had the car a week...Toyota tech suggested they use an odonizer (device to remove odors, normally used on homes w/flood damage). An hour after I got ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: C4C's impact on diesel sales [backy]
I think you are trying to play verbal games which is fine. But I don't see any data that says Toyota will build anything in their Tupelo plant in 2011. All I see is it is on hold. June 10, 2009 Toyota broke ground on the $1.3 billion Tupelo plant in 2006 to produce Highlander crossovers. Last summer the automaker delayed the project and then later changed plans to produce the ... Read More
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Re: C4C's impact on diesel sales [backy]
As for Toyota closing its NUMMI plant after GM pulled out of the partnership... what does that have to do with the Prius vs.Golf? More than once Ahnold begged Toyota to build the Prius in CA the largest buyer of the model in the USA. The new Tupelo plant will not likely see the Prius. Jun 13th 2009 at 2:01PM Steve St. Angelo, senior vice president of Toyota Motor Engineering & ... Read More
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Re: C4C's impact on diesel sales [backy]
If you are as concerned about mileage as you say, you would be a VW fan rather than a Toyota fan. "We are extremely pleased with our August sales results. The government sponsored Cash for Clunkers program was instrumental at sparking the entire auto industry. The fact that Volkswagen currently has more vehicles that attain 25 miles per gallon or better on the highway than any other brand well positioned us ... Read More
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Re: Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI [pf_flyer]
I have an interesting comparison between the Prius and the Golf TDI. Well, interesting to me, but unlikely to sway anyone in their purchase decision. It is a comparison of steady-state driving efficiency. I had found this website: http://www.epa.gov/otaq/tcldata.htm which lists the a-b-c coefficients for all 2009 vehicles. the abc's are used to calculate the roadload (force) at a given speed (v) by a + b*v + c*v^2. When I calculated ... Read More
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Waiting for the cross country matchup Prius vs Golf TDI
This Edmund's video gives you a peak at what to expect. $5,000 premium you pay for a Prius to get comparable equipment. There is one more strike against the Prius… its manufacturing process pretty much makes your happy little bumper sticker null & void. http://www.oneighturbo.com/2009/03/04/toyota-prius-vs-vw-jetta-tdi-diesel/ Prius vs Jetta TDI, 8000 miles Portland to Portland. Interesting stories from the drivers. For those of you solely fixated on stats, the MPG part of ... Read More
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Re: Golf TDI is the better car [gagrice]
"...There is a very capable fellow Wayne Gerdes that used to post here on a regular basis that has set records with different vehicles including the Prius." I do not have references, but I seem to recall an article he penned, where he got Toyota to pony up for a "so called "performance" Corollla and proceeds to coax 59-63 mpg out of it. Pretty good for a 25 mpg combined rating. ... Read More
Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experiences
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press request
A reporter is looking to speak to consumers were unhappy that they paid (or were offered a price) over invoice for the Toyota Prius during Cash for Clunkers. Please send your daytime phone number to ctalati@edmunds.com by Wednesday, September 16, 2009. Thanks, Chintan Corporate Communications Edmunds.com
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: . [thammer62]
Well for sure I hope Toyota has switched to a so called "hard" tank. I have read that folks could have really had a hard time figuring out how much real volume that was left in the tank. So if one wanted to do your "Pruis camel gig" say go 700 miles, the theory could be disturbed by say running out of RUG in the.... Mojave Desert, albeit @ GREAT MPG. ... Read More
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Do your (HOMEWORK) before buying a used Prius !
On 8-6-09 i purchased a 09 Toyota Prius track car from Lowe Toyota in Warner Robins, Ga. 31088 . I was not told at the time of sell that this was actually a car from a dealerships rental fleet. I feel i could have purchased a 2010 after the fact for the price i paid for this used vehicle. I paid $23954.14 for this car with only 5,000 miles on it. ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: Golf TDI is the better car [kdhspyder]
More TDI's are sold (worldwide) than Prius. It is not even close. Toyota sells more diesels worldwide than Prius. Prius is not even the # 1 sales volume in U.S.A. for Toyota. It is not even #2. It is not even important enough to warrant building it in North America. If sales volume is so important to your perspective, why not drive a Corolla, it outsells the Prius. Or why not ... Read More
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Re: Golf TDI is the better car [moparbad]
The 2010 Prius already embarrassed the Jetta TDI in the run from LA to LV and back. Is it common in the diesel diehard community to be such a masochist that you want to see another beating? http://blogs.edmunds.com/greencaradvisor/2009/08/2009-edmunds-fuel-sipper-smackd- own-hybrids-versus-diesel-and-mini.html "The Back Roads The champ: 2010 Toyota Prius with 47.2 mpg 2nd Place: 2010 Honda Insight with 44.1 mpg 3rd Place: 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI with 41.2 mpg 4th Place: 2010 Ford ... Read More
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Golf TDI is the better car
For our money and driving pleasure, we choose the 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI over the 2009 Toyota Prius Touring. Of course, all that could change in a month or so once we get our hands on a 2010 Toyota Prius which is said to be more powerful, more efficient and up-to-date in terms of infotainment. No, the epic battle between diesel and hybrid is not over. Not by a long shot. ... Read More
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Re: D4D for me Re: . [moparbad]
Interesting alternate viewpoint on the Motorweek / Car.com three day sojorun... "We found the Prius, in the end, offered a really top-notch interior, a peppy ride and great mileage," said Patrick Olsen, editor-in-chief of Cars.com. "There were several close competitors, but the Prius's new look and frugal ways won us over." The full report airs on MotorWeek episode 2902. Here are the results of the MotorWeek and Cars.com Power & Economy ... Read More
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Re: The conclusion [gagrice]
Sounds very dubious to me. The Prius has been consistently number one for 5 years in a row. How about some facts like the one based on 425,000 responses from the world's biggest automotive survey : Consumers Report 2009 Survey For the fifth year in a row, the gas/electric Toyota Prius hybrid is the top car for owner satisfaction. That's the news from our latest Annual Car Owner Satisfaction Survey, conducted ... Read More
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Re: D4D for me Re: . [moparbad]
Prius never made any of us want to go for a spin. That is the absolute gospel. I have gone several times to lunch with a friend that has a 2009 Prius. He loves it. Then his other vehicle is a Toyota Tacoma. So he had no real reference of what rides and drives nicely. It was always a pleasure to get out of that car and back into my Lexus ... Read More
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How much longer will the Prius be sold in the USA?
Better get em while they are still legal in the USA. Toyota Hybrids Blocked From U.S. Due to Patent Issues? Toyota faces patent infringement claims from a company called Paice LLC. Paice filed an official complaint with the U.S. International Trade Commission on Thursday in Washington, D.C. The fling, not immediately available for public viewing, claims that Toyota has infringed upon several of the patents awarded to Paice in regards to ... Read More
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Re: WORLD Car of the Year [jpeters1970]
Wasn't that the ad campaign by Toyota. Trade a clunker for a clunker. I was glad to see Hyundai do well. They offer more bang for the dollar than Toyota, Honda or Nissan. I would not include them as competition with the current Jetta TDI. They have nothing that gets close in actual mileage. I don't know about any dealer other than the one closest to me. I know they were ... Read More
Toyota Prius Navigation System Questions
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Re: 2004 PRIUS GPS [dwight5]
Toyota just released the new V9.1 DVD map disc. I picked up mine for $199! I bought one 2 years ago for $265. I also got the part numbers for all of the Prius years: Toyota Part # Part # disc Year 86271-GEN04-09 86271-33049 2004-2005 86271-GEN05-09 86271-53024 2006-2009 86271-GEN06-09 86271-73011 2010-2011
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Value
VW has excellent resale value year after year. Below is KBB predicted resale value after 5 years ownership for the past two years. Top 10 Brands: Top 10 Brands: Best Resale Value 2009 Best Resale Value 2008 1. Honda 44.5 1. Volkswagen 48.1 2. Toyota 42.7 2. BMW 45.6 3. Volkswagen 40.9 3. Acura 45.4 Retained value is an important factor in a vehicle purchase. Knowing that a vehicle will actually ... Read More
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Re: Pricing [backy]
According to Toyota.com, the Prius' sound systems are "XM capable" Unless it was installed and included at the time of sale I would not believe them for a minute. That is exactly what the literature says for the 2007 Sequoia Limited. You can install this $600 unit and it will work through the NAV system. However when you have the rear seat DVD player it will not work. Add to that ... Read More
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Re: Pricing [backy]
I will be curious to try the seats they put in the Golf TDI. If they are the same as the 2009 GTI, they are wonderfully comfortable. Something many owners complain about with the Prius. Edmund's shows the Prius IV selling at $26,550. The Prius V with high tech package is going for $33,200. Unless a side by side comparison is made it will be difficult to say which is the ... Read More
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Re: Anecdotal Experience [moparbad]
I for one am looking forward to the roll out of the GTD either the 2010/2011. Initial indications are @ $18,000. Till that time the only thing that is close and might be off topic is the 2009 Jetta TDI. While we get 39-45 mpg, that has been in break in mode . In some respects the engines (Prius/TDI) are not in the ball park. As such, the reality is more ... Read More
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Re: Anecdotal Experience [dewey]
When you state that Prius has better reliability than TDI, what is the difference in reliability? Will the Prius have 1 problem per 100 vehicles and the TDI have 1.00000000000001 problem per 100 vehicles? I'm not a CR subscriber and circles that are half full or half empty don't mean much to me in terms of data. Buick (Buick and Jaguar tied for No. 1 in 2009 JD Power vehicle dependability) ... Read More
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Edmunds take on 2010 Prius and 2009 TDI
From the Fuel Sipper Smackdown The Conclusion The big news is that the 2010 Toyota Prius (base price $22,000) secures a straight sweep by achieving essentially the same fuel economy regardless of driving environment. Conventional wisdom used to be that the Prius was good for city dwellers and that frequent road trippers should look elsewhere. These results would prove otherwise, and the new Prius proved to be a better long-distance car ... Read More
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Re: July 2009 sales [jpeters1970]
LOVE the BWM 330D but it is out of my price range. I just sold my 07 BMW 335i and I am glad I got rid of that piece of #!%!%&&@!!!!! After 32 months of BMW 335i ownership I went 32 times to the dealership for various malfunctions and problems some of them recurring. I had a lousy sales experience. Lousy service experiences. A lousy car and even when I tried ... Read More
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Re: July 2009 sales [jpeters1970]
I do agree the Volt is likely to be a flop. Then so is the new Honda Insight & the Toy/Lex hybrids other than the Prius. Prius hit a segment like myself looking for high mileage in a usable vehicle. I myself came close to buying the original Prius the month they hit the market. If you remember the last shortage of Prius in the USA when gas came close to ... Read More
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Re: July 2009 sales [gagrice]
There may be a waiting list but the limited quantities available will not be anything comparable to the highly successful Prius. It seems GM is trying to take some headlines now releasing information on their Volt's mileage claim of 230 MPG. Interesting how they claim it will cost 40 cents a day to charge. They base their claim on 5 cents per KW. Not sure when/where electric is that cheap. Typical ... Read More
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Re: July 2009 sales [jpeters1970]
As to reliability. VW reliability sucks but has been improving lately Does your statement have any meaning in terms of real world data? Quantify the difference in reliability between a VW TDI and a Toyota Prius.
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Re: July 2009 sales [jpeters1970]
Not sure how close you follow these trends. Toyota reliability started slipping in 2007 and VW keeps getting better. There are many aspects of a vehicle that are more important than reliability for me. Handling & braking being way out in front. They are not keeping up with the demand for the Jetta TDI which outsells the Prius world wide. The only reason the Prius is successful in the US and ... Read More
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Re: July 2009 sales [gagrice]
I am referring to VW sales in the US. Toyota demolishes them in this regard. As to reliability. VW reliability sucks but has been improving lately. As to mileage. well the Prius wins on all counts. Many independent tests have been conducted and where the Prius really shines is in city mileage as compared to the TDI. The way things seem to be headed it appears that electric cars or hybrids ... Read More
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Re: July 2009 sales [jpeters1970]
How do you figure? VW sold 3.1 million vehicles first half. Toyota 3.5 million. VW sold over 50% diesel. What percentage of Toyota sales world wide are hybrids? The only reason VW does not have a large footprint in the US is very well placed lobby money by the other automakers, environmental groups and the oil companies that support those groups. Oil Companies do not want to sacrifice gas sales to ... Read More
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Re: July 2009 sales [moparbad]
VW sales are miniscule compared to Toyota's so it is not a good comparison. The Prius seems to be doing quite well. I'm so happy I can scream!!!!!!!!
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July 2009 sales
July 2009 sales are in: 24,295 Toyota hybrids, up 19.3% VW all sales, 20,590, up 0.7%, and 6,320 diesels Ford sales are up 1.6% Prius is in the top 10 model sales for July. The free market whispered in July, "Prius," which thundered through the halls of VW. Even Ford got a taste thanks to their hybrids.
Prius Safety & Crash Test Ratings
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Re: 2009 Prius Fire [whitey9]
I am not familiar with anybody having a Prius fire in their garage. That is exactly what was posted. A Prius exploding and burning inside a garage. On Sunday July 26 2009 at 2am my 2005 prius (fully loaded model) caught fire in the garage. The neighbors said that they heard 2 explosions (probably batteries blowing up from heat) and then the garage burst into flames. The prius, the garage and ... Read More
Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experiences
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Prius III with Nav @ $369 below MSRP
Just got the P3w/Nav yesterday from Fitzmall (Lakeforest Toyota) in Gaithersburg at $369 below MSRP. A $200 mats add-on came with the vehicle - guess all new ones have that as a standard option? Did have to put in a refundable deposit to wait on the car we wanted two weeks ahead of taking delivery (they did not have the Nav on the cars they had on the lot). Smooth transaction ... Read More
Prius Safety & Crash Test Ratings
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Re: Prius on Fire? [2shocked]
Our insurance made prompt payment on my 2009 Prius which also caught fire in the middle of the night (previously posted), but I never heard how Toyota dealt with it. Last week I heard of another Prius catching fire in Santa Rosa, CA, but could not get any details. Please let us know what happens. I'm very glad nobody was hurt.
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Re: Prius on Fire? [feffer37]
On Sunday July 26 2009 at 2am my 2005 prius (fully loaded model) caught fire in the garage. The neighbors said that they heard 2 explosions (probably batteries blowing up from heat) and then the garage burst into flames. The prius, the garage and my wife's car were all totally destroyed. The firemen all said that in their opinion the genesis of the fire was with the prius. They said that ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Re: 2004-2009 Prius Brake Failure Rate is High [jpeters1970]
I just bought a certified used 2005 three weeks ago, and since then I have had this happen TWICE, which is why I'm on the Internet searching for information about it. Fortunately, so far, the break has eventually engaged just in the nick of time but it has made this usually very confident driver more than a little squeamish about driving in Chicago area traffic. I love every other aspect of ... Read More
2010 Prius - Next Generation
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Re: Do You Suppose? [kdhspyder]
I've also heard that Toyota lowered the cost of the battery packs considerably. I am pretty certain I read that the MSRP for the 2004-2009 battery pack is $2200.00 As time goes on, I would expect that cost to even lower. If you look at eBay there is almost always a few people selling salvage battery packs from Prius'.
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: 2009 Prius Touring Package # 5 North Carolina [gremlinperson]
What dealer did you deal with? I bought from Toyota in Goldsboro, but could have made a very similiar deal with Leith Toyota in raleigh. Fred Anderson was at least $2000 higher.
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Re: 2004-2009 Prius Brake Failure Rate is High [ganderc]
You can bump the number of complaints up by one. I've finally submitted mine for my 2007 Prius with 37,020 miles. Like others, I was traveling at a low speed, about 15mph. I had to do a quick stop because of a car stopped in my lane. There were parked cars on one side and opposing traffic on the other so I had no avoidance options. When I jammed on the ... Read More
2010 Prius - Next Generation
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Re: May-2009 Hybrid Sales [gasout]
Car and Driver also didn't rate it very well in their 600 mile loop. Don't have the mag here now but 36 comes to mind and 42 for the 2010 Prius which was the same as the third car they also tested along with the Honda and Toyota. What was the 3rd car. A 12 year old Chevy Metro with over 100+K on it.
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: 2009 Prius Touring Package # 5 North Carolina [antonio1]
OK - here's the real data : MSRP was $29,500. Extra Value Package deduct $2650 for Total Sticker Price of $26850. From the sales ticket, actual total price was $22780. Taxes, fees etc a little under $900. My Corolla had been "examined" by three other dealers (two Toyota and one Honda). Trade value ranged from $4500 (Honda, one Toy) to $6500 (on a Standard Prius, package 3). I paid $18000 and ... Read More
2010 Prius - Next Generation
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Re: May-2009 Hybrid Sales
We traded 2005 Prius for 2010 Insight. We loved the Pruis but Insight is a great car. It gets over 53 MPG (mostly highway) very consistently. I don’t know why the EPA rating is so low. We were getting close to 50 MPG with 2005 Prius and I can’t wait to get the new Prius for my wife so we can compare the two over the same route. The Toyota dealer ... Read More
Prius Safety & Crash Test Ratings
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2009 Prius Fire
Our 2-week-old 2009 Prius caught fire in our driveway in the middle of the night. The fire started in the rear battery compartment - same as the others I've read in this forum. We're waiting to see how Toyota will respond. As I consider whether to replace the car with another Prius, I am concerned to read in this forum that there have been almost identically described battery fires in model ... Read More
2010 Prius - Next Generation
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May-2009 Hybrid Sales
May-2009 Hybrid sales, Ford - 3,906 Honda - 4,857 Toyota - 14,846 GM - 1,739 Total - 25,348 I guess its the highest in this year. Probably Hybrids captured 2.8 % share. For Ford, this is the record, seems Fusion/Milan Hybrids have sold very well. Also Ford retained #2 share in US market pushing Toyota to #3 place. For Toyota, Prius was launched only on May-18 and so its only a ... Read More
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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2009 Prius Touring Package # 5 North Carolina
Memorial Day weekend I also picked up a 2009 Spectra Blue Touring Prius, package #5. I live near Raleigh, NC, and did some serious hagggling with the local Big Dealer in town. I ended up driving about 75 miles to Goldsboro NC, and bought my car there. The car was not what I had planned for(had agreed to a Standard package #3 for$23,000), but the price for the Touring was unbeatable ... Read More
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Re: 2009 Prius lease from Putnam Toyota in Burlingame [cptgrp]
What is the money factor in your lease agreement?
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2009 Prius lease from Putnam Toyota in Burlingame
I just leased a 2009 Prius on Monday 05/18/2009 before the registration fee increase (magnetic gray, package 5 plus dealer installed leather seats). Adjusted capitalized cost: $26,033.89 Residual: $15,851.00 36-month lease, 12K miles per year Monthly: $335 plus tax Due at signing: $1,988 Decent deal?
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San Francisco Bay Area MF and Residual Request
I want to lease a 2009 Prius, either a Touring or the Package 6. Could someone share the MF and residuals for this area. BTW-considering Toyota of Walnut Creek. Reactions, good or not so much?
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Re: 2009 Prius Bank Fee / Doc Fee [prc2]
I'd ask them to explain the "bank fee". If this is a purchase then any financing fees you pay the bank would be between you and the bank. If you are getting the Toyota 0% financing, then them charging a fee sorta kills the whole 0% concept. If they simply want to gouge you tell them to do it straight to your face. I hate hidden fees.
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Re: 2009 Prius Bank Fee / Doc Fee [prc2]
My experience with a dealer in Oregon is the only applicable info I can provide. In Oregon, Dealer Doc fee is set to $50.00 fixed, by law. Bank fee - what the heck is that? There is title and sales tax where I live. Both are well documented, easily calculated, and reasonable. I recently haggled over a 2009 level 6 Touring. Got the deal negotiated to invoice +$509 + $50.00 Doc ... Read More
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2009 Prius Bank Fee / Doc Fee
I received a quote for a 2009 Package #6 today at slightly over invoice (less than $200), but the quote added on a $650 "bank fee" and a $45 "doc fee." Is this customary with Toyotas? Thanks!
Article Comments - 2010 Honda Insight vs. 2009 Toyota Prius
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Re: wvgasguy-your answer to your post above [sr146260211]
The above link you posted on is where you Prius owners or wannabe's should be. Besides, this is the Honda forum if you failed to read the forum heading you are on. Edmunds also has a Prius forum as well. What interest would you have in PriusChat? A closet Prius wannabe??? Actually I can read. It's a requirement for Prius wannabe's. The thread is called: 2010 Honda Insight vs. 2009 Toyota ... Read More
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