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Toyota Prius Hybrid System Questions
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2004 TOYOTA PRIUS
My 2004 toyota prius does not start. The light comes on the sreen, you can play the radio,blow the horn and do everything but the car cannot start. What happened was that, I was driving in traffic and I saw smoke coming out through the front (bonnet). We parked and checked and realized the coolant pump under one of the front headlights was burnt. We replaced the coolant pump and put ... Read More
Extended Warranty Opinions
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Re: EXTENDED SERVICE WARRANTY FOR PRIUS [shay2]
My 2004 Prius has 69000+ miles and has been very reliable. I did pay quite a bit for taillight assembly when the LED section failed. I seem to remember it was around $400. I had to replace the battery (not the hybrid one). Other than that,, I think the car is a good one to "run until the wheels fall off." I just succumbed to a third party 4yr/60,000 mile warranty ... Read More
Toyota Prius Engine Problems
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Re: 2007 prius my warning park mechanism light [cowkiller36]
I have a 2004 Prius. This has happened to me infrequently but more than once. 1. Make sure you get the software upgraded by your Toyota dealer. That should be a no cost upgrade. 2. I have ALWAYS been able to get it to start somehow, sometimes by playing with the start button which usually worked at least on the 5th or 6th try. 3. The one time it wouldn't start ... Read More
Toyota Prius Dash & Instrumentation Questions
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Partial failure of display on hot days
My Prius (2004 with 40000 miles) display has partially failed. A skeleton display appears on hot days with no data (MPG, miles driven, etc.). When the car is cool the display returns with all the correct data. Also the radio drops stations that have been set up. These too return. The car runs normally with the air conditioning and radio working (more or less). None of this happened before over the ... Read More
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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2004-2009 Toyota Prius Lease Questions
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Re: Prius Brakes issue [smt1]
I read that they redesigned the braking systems for the 2010 Prius. That appears to be Toyota's response to the fact that the U.S. Generation 2 Prius (2004-2009) has had low-speed brake failures reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at 31 times the rate of such failures reported for the 2004-2009 Corolla, which of course has traditional brakes. reliable cars
Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experiences
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Prius IV in Dallas
Paid $25973 (excluding TT&L) For a Blizzard Pearl Prius IV no nav or sunroof. Had the following Gulf States Distributor Add-Ons pecial Color: $220 Window Tint: $299 - (Compliant With The Laws Of La, Tx, Ar, Ok, And Ms) Vehicle Shield Package: $349 - Lusterizing Sealant - Sound Shield - Sealant Cleaner - Rental Car Assistance Owner Rewards Package: $600 - "spider" Net - Rear Bumper Protector - Premium Carpet Mat ... Read More
Toyota Prius Electrical and Lighting Questions
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Prius recall
I was told that toyota is going to recall 2004 to 2007 prius's for a problem with some sort of pump. Anybody heard anything about that?
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Re: My 2010 Prius still surges after fix. [wwest]
I have a 2004 with 60,000 miles and have never had anything but a very slight surge. The 2010 has disc brakes frond AND rear but that should not cause your problem. Bring it to Don at Bighorn Toyota in Glenwood Springs, Colorado and he'll fix it for you.
Toyota Prius Tire/Wheel Questions
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Re: new tires after 20,000 miles [jlondon2]
One reply to this says "who ever told you Priuses are heavy is crazy". Well Priuses are heavier in the front of the vehicle than other compact cars. Hybrids have a gasoline engine, an electric motor, Heavier battery, and a transmission all supported by the front axle. Early Priuses came stock with and required required XL Tires (Extra Load). A tires weight capacity is effected by the size of the tire ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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NHW11 vs NHW20 vs ZVW30 brakes
Hi, The ZVW30 Prius, 2010-current, has the redesigned brake system and the recent recall to get rid of a rare, brake pause. The NHW20, 2004-09, has not been recalled but there are reports that it has a similar but less severe pause. The NHW11, 2001-03, is my commuting car and none of my tests have replicated the brake pause. 2010-current Prius - SSC-A0B You don't have to wait on a letter ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: not anymore [bwilson4web]
If it was that simple to detect, why didn't Toyota catch it before putting a dangerous vehicle on the road. It should have been quite obvious with any slick road testing. The Toyota testing on all their vehicles leaves a LOT to be desired. From Prius brakes to UA on most of their vehicles and now screwed up steering on the newly designed Corolla. And you want people to think that ... Read More
Prius and filling the tank
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Re: Prius and filling the tank [dgw2]
I have a fully loaded Prius 2004 and love it. I was one of the first people in Syracuse, NY to have one. The gas tank capacity however has been an ongoing problem especially on a trip. A few months ago it started to accept less and less gasoline on a fill up. It is now accepting less than 5 gallons when the fuel gauge says it is nearly empty ( ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Food for Thought
Interesting message post from http://reviews.cnet.com/coupe-hatchback/2005-toyota-prius/4864-10867_7-31352228-- 2.html?ord=creationDate+desc&tag=rtcol;uo: ""High Rate of Low Speed Brake Failure in 2004-2009 Prius" by ganderc on April 7, 2009 Pros: Great car except for the brakes. Cons: Has a rate of low speed brake failures 31 times that of a traditionally-braked car (Corolla). Many result in rear-ending the car ahead with no injury. Summary: I read that they redesigned the braking systems for the 2010 Prius. That appears ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: rehashing reliability is old-hat [winter2]
You mentioned: "Let us hook up the equivalent weight to the 2010 Prius and then see what happens. But then again, I do not know anyone who commutes in a Kenworth, Freightliner or Volvo truck." The technical term is power-to-weight ratio and that pretty well defines hill climbing performance for any vehicle ... even a diesel. You also mentioned: "So Toyota gave the gas engine 22 more HP and 23 more ... Read More
Prius and filling the tank
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Re: Toyota States NO FIX for Bladder defect [priusdar]
I have my 2005 at 83000 mi plus. I too have experienced the 'bladder variability issue' on rare occasions. But going over the top on such a silly inconsequential issue is silly. HINT: Use your common sense. I'm sure that you didn't have this explained to you when you took delivery of your Prius. If it had been explained to you up front then you'd be able to deal with the ... Read More
Toyota Prius Navigation System Questions
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Re: 2004 PRIUS GPS [karen68]
When I discussed this issue with Toyota I was told that each half (west/east) of the United States is updated every other year. The 8.1 updated the Eastern US and supposedly the 9.1 version was supposed to update the Western US. So depending on where you live it may or may not be a worthwhile update. As to where to buy is a tough one... I was lucky enough to purchase ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: REAL-WORLD DATA [backy]
Not exactly. The Prius computer control does not allow hydraulic to work under certain conditions. With most DBW systems you can over ride and manually brake the car. Has something to do with the regenerative/ABS system in Toyota hybrids for 2010. Just like the 2004 Prius. It was a couple years before they got the bugs worked out. Plus the VW models have brake over ride to avoid the SUA that ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Prius Brake Failure/Delay - Dallas, TX
Has anyone who has experienced the Prius brake failure/delay reported it to one of the Toyota dealers in the Dallas, TX area? I called all the service managers in the Dallas area and all of them denied this problem exists and said they had never had anyone report it to them. A few of them claimed all of these were made up stories from people who didn't want the Prius to ... Read More
Toyota Prius Engine Problems
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Re: system upgraded & camshaft sensor replaced but.... [jonnied]
This is the first serious battery problem that I've read about. I think the 100K mile guarantee has to cover more than one year, If you drove that much, they'd disallow coverage on the grounds that it was commercial usage. Try getting a Toyota rep to come to the dealer that was most cooperative. I had a serious question when my 2004 was new and Toyota sent a rep to Glenwood ... Read More
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: November poll - voting results are in [kdhspyder]
Toyota NAV units are JUNK. They are at the bottom of the latest JD Powers survey for good reason. They are not only overpriced to start with they are overpriced to update. Denso is a junk electronics company. Prius may have gone to a different brand for 2010. They are still at the bottom of the pile. 8 of the bottom 11 vehicles in the survey are Toyotas. Including the Prius. ... Read More
2010 Prius - Next Generation
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Re: Prius for Brazil [victorbrazil]
Are you buying 2010 or 2009 models. I think that makes a big difference. I have a 2004 (same as 2009) which has had no real problems other than TSB's that were applied, at no cost, by my nearby Toyota dealer. Some of those were major.(anew fuel system, a new display and dashboard innards etc., other were minor. While the 2010 model is superior in performance and mileage, I would recommend ... Read More
Prius ECM problems! Please advise!
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Re: Prius ECM Problems [dmathews3]
There have been a number of problems like this reported over the years. I had to have a new screen/odometer installed, a new fuel line and gas tank, and a few other major TSB's, all under warrantee. A number of Prius' just stopped on the highway (software/sensor problem) but I have not had any problem that wasn't already a TSB. I am waiting until the 2011 or late 2010 for a ... Read More
Toyota Prius Electrical and Lighting Questions
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Re: 12V battery replacement in 2004 Prius? [coontie66]
This is actually an AGM battery and Toyota is the best place to buy them.
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: What are the chances for diesel?? [gagrice]
Backy: Again, the "real english:" ..."You want to know the real reason Toyota sells the Prius in the USA. CAFE makes it a good deal for them. For every Prius they sell they can sell 4 gas guzzlers that get 20 MPG without any penalties. So "lose a little to make a lot". Should be their ad campaign. "... So in effect one whatever (i.e., Prius 45-50 mpg) buys multiple GAS ... Read More
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Re: Stale News [dewey]
Now you have confirmed it. The Prius and Camry are all built on the same MC platform that will be used for the Sienna mini van. The Prius is still 15 inches shorter than the Camry and much closer in size to the Corolla. Has 33% less space for stuff than the VW Jetta Sportwagen. It is great you are happy with your Prius. Hating a car you are driving is ... Read More
Toyota Prius Navigation System Questions
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Re: 2004 PRIUS GPS [dwight5]
Toyota just released the new V9.1 DVD map disc. I picked up mine for $199! I bought one 2 years ago for $265. I also got the part numbers for all of the Prius years: Toyota Part # Part # disc Year 86271-GEN04-09 86271-33049 2004-2005 86271-GEN05-09 86271-53024 2006-2009 86271-GEN06-09 86271-73011 2010-2011
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: Pricing [gagrice]
In the past at least, some rental companies including Hertz have/had Priuses in their fleet. If they have 2010s that would be a good way to get a complete driving experience with one. I'll probably do that when it gets closer to buy-time. But I know a Master Salesrep for a local Toyota dealership who I am sure will let me take one out for a long drive if I ask. ... Read More
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Re: Pricing [gagrice]
Keep in mind the Prius has been redesigned for 2010--just like the Golf has been. So picking on the 2004-9 Prius (like picking on a 2007 Toyota truck) is not really pertinent. The Gen 3 Prius has more power and a tweaked suspension. So before trashing it for lack of power, handling, comfort, and also too much noise, it might be a good idea to drive it. I got the 2007 ... Read More
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Re: cargo space prius [john1701a]
I did not change the subject Toyota Prius Stalling is the issue. They are not all listed under one complaint topic or one MY. CNN reported, "A software problem is causing some Toyota Prius gas-electric hybrid cars to stall or shut down while driving at highway speeds." A Toyota press release states: Approximately 75,000 2004 and 2005 model year Prius vehicles may be affected by this condition. You are the one ... Read More
Prius Owners w/50K - What We Think Now
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Re: Info About Both Batteries In 2nd Gen Prius [jpeters1970]
Almost the same story with my 2004. The only difference is I had an October '03 mfg date and did have about a half dozen TSB's that had to be fixed by my Toyota dealer at no cost but some inconvienience to me.
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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Re: Anecdotal Experience [moparbad]
I for one am looking forward to the roll out of the GTD either the 2010/2011. Initial indications are @ $18,000. Till that time the only thing that is close and might be off topic is the 2009 Jetta TDI. While we get 39-45 mpg, that has been in break in mode . In some respects the engines (Prius/TDI) are not in the ball park. As such, the reality is more ... Read More
2010 Prius - Next Generation
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Re: '10 Prius IV BT Streaming Audio - no cables! [rogue9]
I have never had a problem with any BT phones linked to my 2004 Prius. I actually have an iPhone 3G and it works fine. I've also hooked up a Blackberry, Nokia and Motorola with no issues. Don't solely rely on Toyota's list. Try it out first because they don't test every phone on the market.
2010 Toyota Prius or 2010 Ford Fusion?
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Prius v FFH
I can see this being a very tough decision. If you need the versatility of a hatch then go with the Prius. If that is not an issue then you have to weigh other factors. The Prius has some technology that is lacking in the FFH. For instance, in the top of the line Prius you can get a technology package that has lane keep assist and dynamic cruise control which ... Read More
2010 Prius - Next Generation
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Re: maintenance for prius. [tyler70]
As an owner of a 2004 Prius I can attest to the car's reliability and low cost of ownership. I have close to 70,000 miles and I've changed the oil at 5,000 mile intervals with synthetic oil. Air filters and tires were changed at their normal intervals. I think the 2010 model will do just as well if not better. It is the most reliable vehicle I've owned. I considered a ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Re: 2004-2009 Prius Brake Failure Rate is High [jpeters1970]
I just bought a certified used 2005 three weeks ago, and since then I have had this happen TWICE, which is why I'm on the Internet searching for information about it. Fortunately, so far, the break has eventually engaged just in the nick of time but it has made this usually very confident driver more than a little squeamish about driving in Chicago area traffic. I love every other aspect of ... Read More
2010 Prius - Next Generation
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Re: Do You Suppose? [kdhspyder]
I've also heard that Toyota lowered the cost of the battery packs considerably. I am pretty certain I read that the MSRP for the 2004-2009 battery pack is $2200.00 As time goes on, I would expect that cost to even lower. If you look at eBay there is almost always a few people selling salvage battery packs from Prius'.
Toyota Prius vs VW Golf TDI
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2010 Reviews
Actually, you have to put the review into perspective. These hybrids are not sports cars and the mag rags are all about enthusiasm. I am more of an appliance type of guy with respect to my transportation. Most importantly I love the tech. The TDI has no tech like the new Prius does. It is just plain boring to me. I still love my 2004 tech goodies and the fact that ... Read More
2010 Prius - Next Generation
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Re: Buyers began taking delivery of the 2010's yesterday [rogue9]
"My wife works for a southern california toyota dealership and had mentioned the other day, the first case of a customer having to pay out of pocket for a replacement battery for a 2001 prius. The cost of the battery was 5 thousand dollars. ..." Oh man, too bad: The NHW11 model Prius, 2001-03, had the first generation prismatic battery that is not as strong as the NHW20, 2004-09 and ZVW30, ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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Re: 2004-2009 Prius Brake Failure Rate is High [ganderc]
You can bump the number of complaints up by one. I've finally submitted mine for my 2007 Prius with 37,020 miles. Like others, I was traveling at a low speed, about 15mph. I had to do a quick stop because of a car stopped in my lane. There were parked cars on one side and opposing traffic on the other so I had no avoidance options. When I jammed on the ... Read More
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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2009 Prius Touring Package # 5 North Carolina
Memorial Day weekend I also picked up a 2009 Spectra Blue Touring Prius, package #5. I live near Raleigh, NC, and did some serious hagggling with the local Big Dealer in town. I ended up driving about 75 miles to Goldsboro NC, and bought my car there. The car was not what I had planned for(had agreed to a Standard package #3 for$23,000), but the price for the Touring was unbeatable ... Read More
Does the current situation affect hybrid sales more?
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carried over from a Diesel News post thread
Gary says, "Toyota has put all its marbles into the wrong markets. The US buyer is fickle. And the meager Prius sales when gas is cheap, attests to my belief." Gas prices and Prius sales do not have a direct correlation: Sales in 2004: 53,991 Avg gas price 2004: $1.895 Sales in 2005: 107,897 Avg gas price 2005: $2.314 Gas prices went up, and so did Prius sales. Sales in 2006: ... Read More
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Re: carried over from a Diesel News post thread [gagrice]
How many times I have to post this? Gary says, "Toyota has put all its marbles into the wrong markets. The US buyer is fickle. And the meager Prius sales when gas is cheap, attests to my belief." Gas prices and Prius sales do not have a direct correlation: Sales in 2004: 53,991 Avg gas price 2004: $1.895 Sales in 2005: 107,897 Avg gas price 2005: $2.314 Gas prices went up, ... Read More
Toyota Prius Brake Problems
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2004-2009 Prius Brake Failure Rate is High
I read that they redesigned the braking systems for the 2010 Prius. That appears to be Toyota's response to the fact that the U.S. Generation 2 Prius (2004-2009) has had low-speed brake failures reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at 31 times the rate of such failures reported for the 2004-2009 Corolla, which of course has traditional brakes. Many of the Prius low speed brake failures were in ... Read More
Toyota Prius Electrical and Lighting Questions
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Re: Can't start 2004 Prius [jfbohn]
Same thing happens to my 2005 Prius. Twice, I had to have the 12 volt charged. Dealer said the battery was fine. The other day, in a grocery parking lot, I tried to start the car and all of the lights flashed and I could not get FOB out. Waited and pressed power button and car powered off. Started again and it was fine. It seems that it had to recycle ... Read More
Toyota Prius
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Re: OK to leave Prius undriven for periods of time? [railroadjames]
James: I am in a situation similar to you. I have a 2004 (only 50,000 miles) and love the car. I have been waiting for the new version for several years. Now it looks like it will not have Li-On batteries when it comes out but that will not deter me. I have had two instances of "dead battery", one a week after I got the car and a second about ... Read More
Toyota Prius Tire/Wheel Questions
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86S tires vs. 86T
I decided to purchase tires for my 2004 Prius from a tire dealer rather than the Toyota Dealer because this will be my 3rd set of 4 tires with only 81K miles. The Toyota Dealer also quoted $585 and the tire dealer quoted $380. The tires will be P185-65R15-86T. I currently have the same tire except 86S at the end. Does anyone know the difference? Which tire is preferable, the 86T ... Read More
Getting the Most Out of the Toyota Prius: Driving Tips
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Replacement Tire Suggestions for a Prius
Hello all, hopefully someone can recommend replacement tires for this wonderful (2004) car. I have about 34-35K miles on the original "Integrity - 185/65 R15s. As I wrote above, I have not liked this tire. It is very noisy on highways, and at 35/33# of air pressure, it gives a pretty hard ride on local, bumpy streets. Yesterday I called up my Toyota dealer and was surprised to learn that they ... Read More
Hybrid cars - selling in Canada?
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Re: lease buy out for 2004 Prius [toyolla2]
I don't think your advice to myrnamather is good. Viewing this from Toyota's perspective, they will either sell the car to myrnamather for $13K (+taxes) or they will take it back together with a cheque for $7K when they find out how many kms it has on it. They will be happy in either instance since either they get the $13K they budgeted for or they get a cheque for $7K ... Read More
Help me understand the value of the hybrid.
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Re: [kenlw]
That's obvious, I used it only as an example of how incorrect the former statement was about resale prices on the Prius. Now if you want to do a comparison of like vehicles, hybrid and non-hybrid... use a 2004 Prius and its non-hybrid sibling the Matrix. Or take a 2002 Prius and compare it to a 2002 Corolla. At average miles and average condition the Prius holds more value than either ... Read More
Toyota Prius MPG-Real World Numbers
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Re: 58mpg? [carbot]
Background I am new to forums so be patience with me. I am a new Prius Owner from Manassas, VA. Our family "lucked out" and bought a 2004 in Dec 2007, 60K miles, for $18K ($16K + $2K, sales taxes, processing fee & extended warranty). Comment/Question: I was impressed that you had 204,000 miles on your car. That was one of our big questions. What was the life expectancy if car ... Read More
Prius Owners w/50K - What We Think Now
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Re: PRIUS OWNERS W/ 50K : WHAT WE THINK NOW [dstarinieri]
I've been waiting 3 years for the next version. Good thing I have a 2004 so I can wait. Toyota is struggling with the Li-ion batteries. Since I live in the mountains, my wish list also includes and electric turbo and 4WD like the Highlander. The plug in feature only helps if most of your driving is real short trips. I can't see how they can get the electric range beyond ... Read More
Getting the Most Out of the Toyota Prius: Driving Tips
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Re: Long term hybrid owners [pf_flyer]
I have a 2004 Prius since 12/30/03. I myself change the oil and oil filter twice a year and the inside air filter once a year. I keep the tire pressure at 40/38 and bring the car to Toyota only for TSB's which are at no charge. The car is great. I get 45+ MPG. On two occasions I had a dead 12V battery, once early in 2004 and again two ... Read More
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Why Prius??? [jaxs1]
YOU ASKED, ARE USED FIRST GENERATION PRIUS FLOODING THE USED CAR MARKET? Hmmmm....no...I wonder why? Ever hear of Wikipedia??? Toyota announced on June 7, 2007 that it had sold 1 million hybrid vehicles globally, nearly 345,000 of the first 1 million hybrid cars made by Toyota were sold in Japan. U.S. sales of the Prius began in August 2000. By 2001 sales there totaled 15,556, and by 2002 had reached 20,119. ... Read More
What to expect from the next model year Prius
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Re: seats [kdhspyder]
2008 Corolla weighed about the same as the 2009 Yaris. They all wear similar-sized shoes as 2008 Prius. The 2008 Prius weighs more than the 2009 Corolla. 2009 Corolla's shoes are wider accross the range. Even the 2004 Camry, which was of roughly equal weight to the Prius, had an extra inch of contact patch. 2008 Prius wears shoes designed for cars 300-400lbs lighter than itself. The point I was trying ... Read More
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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I guess not too bad a deal...
Darcars Toyota, Frederick MD Prius w/ Package#2, $1400 under MSRP ($1 over "Invoice"), $22,310. Beat Edmunds TMV by $700, so I felt it was pretty good. Also, beat Fitzmall by $300. They were selling low-end Prius' like crazy, so I hit them at the right time. I got the Platinum Warranty for $1250, "Retail" is $1895. I guess the finance guy was in a good mood? Or maybe that's the going ... Read More
What to expect from the next model year Prius
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Re: 1.8L Upgrade for 2009 ?? [pathstar1]
@pathstar1 I looked up the engine specs for bore and stroke for the 2007 Camry unchanged with the Atkinson variant. The 2.4L 2AZ-FXE engine has a longer stroke (96mm) than the Prius 1.5L (84.7mm). Furthermore the Camry's 6000rpm yields an astounding average piston speed of 19.2m/sec - that's close to racing engine territory.So your statement Long stroke engines don't handle high RPM well may be good theory but Toyota doesn't appear ... Read More
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1.8L Upgrade for 2009 ??
First, if we are going to speculate let's look at some numbers. To start with, I've never fully understood why the current Prius engine runs only to 5000rpm, whereas the 2.4L in the Camry Hybrid runs at the same speed as the engine in the non-Hybrid Camry which is 6000rpm. With that in mind I would expect that before upgrading engine capacity to 1.8L, from Im2's Motor Trend reference, that Toyota ... Read More
Toyota Prius Dash & Instrumentation Questions
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erratic gas gauge
I have experienced wildly fluctuating gas gauge readings in my 2004 Prius.... example, two tenths when I shut down - eight tenths when I start car again. Happens roughly 2 out of 5 tanks of gas. I am discussing this issue with Toyota Customer Service. I understand the fluctuations of the "bladder" system, but can't tolerate running out of gas (and battery) - which has happened. Anyone else have this experience? ... Read More
Toyota Prius MPG-Real World Numbers
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Re: mileage [rockpsl76]
ONe of the biggest drains on all vehicles, hybrid or not, is having to accelerate from a dead stop. Overcoming the inertia of standing still is a HUGE waste of fuel. There is no way to obviate Newton's Laws. I did a similar test on the streets of NYC where I used to live and work. Going across town from stop light to stop light to stop light I was only ... Read More
Help me understand the value of the hybrid.
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Re: Help me understand the value of the hybrid. [etroup]
You keep posting that the batteries will wear out around 100K mi. Please advise where you got this information. The information -I've- seen indicates they usually last much longer than that. The original Prius (Prius Classic - 2000 to 2003 in the US) -may- have battery problems sooner than the current car. Toyota has improved the batteries a lot in the current model. One problem estimating battery life is the current ... Read More
Toyota Prius Hybrid System Questions
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2006 Prius repeated loss of power at high speeds
On 3 separate occasions in the past 6 months my wife's Prius has lost power while operating at high speeds in the commuter lane on the freeways in Southern California.It is amazing that she was not involved in an accident on any of these occasions.Each time, She had her car towed to a Toyota dealership.The warning signs all came on with each episode.The Toyota dealership has never told us that this ... Read More
What to expect from the next model year Prius
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Re: Residual after 3 yrs for cars bought in 2004 and those on sale today [nm_socal]
Don't confuse residual value with retail resale value or trade-in value for that matter. The fact is that residual values on leased vehicled always will show about a 50% loss after 3 or 4 yrs no matter what vehicle you are discussing. The auto finance company is protecting itself because it is required to 'buy back' your vehicle at the guaranteed residual value. Trade in value is usually lower still because ... Read More
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Residual after 3 yrs for cars bought in 2004 and those on sale today
Friends: This does not seem to make sense. New cars are going for $21-25k, while used ones from 2004 with comparable options are being listed in autotraders within $17-22k range. This makes the 3-yr residual for cars bought in 2004 at over 80%. That seems believable for a Toyota (or a Honda for that matter). But why is the residual value on new Prius's as low as 52-54% (as reported by ... Read More
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Fast Company
Landspeed Prius Hits 130.794 mph at Bonneville On 23rd December 2004 a modified Toyota Prius reached 130.794 mph on the three-mile short course at the Bonneville Salt Flats. An engineering group from Toyota and Toyota Motorsports worked on the Prius for more than two months to prepare the vehicle. The Landspeed Prius ran a stock Hybrid Synergy Drive powertrain. The transmission final drive gear ratio for the gas engine was modified ... Read More
Toyota Prius Dash & Instrumentation Questions
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Re: Failure of display screen [suirp]
"My 2004 Prius with 26000 miles and out of warrenty 6 mons. has inoperative display screen as described in another post. Will Toyota honor TSB to replace screen after warrenty expires?" What makes you think it is the TSB? Electronics break sometimes...
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Failure of display screen
My 2004 Prius with 26000 miles and out of warrenty 6 mons. has inoperative display screen as described in another post. Will Toyota honor TSB to replace screen after warrenty expires? They quoted me $4000. to repair. I will contact dealer tomorrow with info. I took off this site. Disgusted with what I thought was a dream car.
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Resale price of 2004 Prius vs Residual value for new Prius [jaxs1]
Can anyone, in any state, recommend their dealer? I am looking for an honest or at least reputable dealership that will not rip me off for a standard 2007 Prius with package number 2 and mats. This weekend I went to 4 dealerships in Miami, Fl. I thought the sleazy dealers were a thing of the past. Here are SOME of their lies: the window sticker base price is the price ... Read More
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Resale price of 2004 Prius vs Residual value for new Prius
Friends: This does not seem to make sense. New cars are going for $21-25k, while used ones from 2004 with comparable options are being listed in autotraders within $17-22k range. This makes the 3-yr residual for cars bought in 2004 at over 80%. That seems believable for a Toyota (or a Honda for that matter). But why is the residual value on new Prius's as low as 52-54% (as reported by ... Read More
Toyota Prius Audio & Entertainment System Questions
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Toyota Prius 2004 CD player Problem
I have Prius 2004, and my CD is not working. I can't retrieve CDs, Display shows "CD Error" message. Looks like one CD stocks somewhere in the middle of tracks or any other mechanical failure. At DealershipI was told that the whole unit needs to replaced (exchanged) and it would cost $600. Is anybody have a similar experience, or suggestion on what can be done to reduce the repair cost?
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Toyota Prius Radio Problems
I have a 2004 Toyota Prius with the #9 package including JBL Sound and Navigation. The car has a little over 26K miles and has been relaible, comfortable, and economical so far. I have noticed a problem with fairly severe "bleed through" of electrical static and whine through the audio section when the radio is played in AM mode. Its a function of the throttle position and is definitely related to ... Read More
Prius Owners w/50K - What We Think Now
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Maintenance Experience and Concerns
I am in the third year of my ownership of Prius 2004 (bought it used). I changed the motor oil from dino to semi-synthetic to fully synthetic mobil one oil to allow for even further reduced use of oil from the Gulf Oil countries (Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc). It is my contribution to the troops to help minimize our reasons for staying in Iraq. I change my oil every 10K miles ... Read More
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Re: PRIUS OWNERS W/ 50K : WHAT WE THINK NOW [railroadjames]
My 2004 Prius has almost 55,000 miles at this point. So far probably the most trouble free car I have ever owned and that's saying a lot since I have driven nothing but Toyota's since 1988. The only thing I notice is a noisy air handler door behind the glove box. It's most noticeable when first turning on the AC. The dealer claimed never to be able to hear it while ... Read More
Prius Safety & Crash Test Ratings
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Re: Pirus Fire: [jbarnhart]
I have only read of pre 2004 Prius fires. Under any circumstances Toyota should cover the loss. They are less than 8-10 years old. The battery warranty period.
Toyota Prius Engine Problems
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Re: 2004 Prius won't start. Help! [stevegold]
I couldn't do anything in the dark last night so I purposely left the lights on to fully discharge the small battery. This morning, I jumped the small battery, using the easy to get at terminal under the front hood. It started right up like normal. (It probably re booted the various micro processors.) I will have Toyota check the error codes later this week. If it didn't start this morning, ... Read More
Prius Owners w/50K - What We Think Now
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Over 72,000 miles and loving it
I have a 2002 prius I purchased in 2004 with 38,000 miles on it. The car now has 72000 miles. The first set of tires were worn out at around 45,000 miles or so. I just replaced the front tires again at 72000. I have had a few problems with the car. The computer failed and had to be replaced, there was a mysterious fuel tank leak, A component in the ... Read More
Toyota Prius
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Nope...
The Goodyear Integrity has been, unfortunately, the only OEM tire on the Prius since the current car was introduced in the 2004 model year. As I said, this is a poor choice by Toyota, but they're not alone - this tire shows up all over the new-car world [Honda, Chrysler, Toyota] - it's got low rolling resistance at the expense of really lousy grip. In any case, it's not a reason ... Read More
New Prius Owners - Give Us Your Report
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Re: Rented Prius
I returned the Prius this morning. I did not have any major pain or major discomfort from driving several hours, but it was never truly comfortable. There was actually some minor soreness in my elbow from the rock hard center armrest. If I had to buy a Prius, I would either get the armrest reupholstered with added padding or maybe buy a gel keyboard wrist pad and lay it on the ... Read More
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Wanted...and Online Deal
I've decided to trade my 2004 Acura TL for a Toyota Prius. I've also decided on color(s) and specifics such as what I think is a good deal for both the trade and purchase. I have tried to buy locally (NJ), but end up frustrated with tactics such as the salesperson taking my car around back to look like he is having it 'valued' only to find out that it is ... Read More
Toyota Prius Electrical and Lighting Questions
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Re: 2004 Prius 12-V Auxilliary Battery Dies Unexpectedly [steve1c]
You must have had a cell short on you. Sometimes a piece of lead comes loose and shorts out a cell. If the cell was fully charged, it will heat up and vent out the "emergency pressure release vent", bypassing the normal vent tube. Also possible the vent tube was not connected. I've seen at least one other posting of a Prius going dead while driving due to the 12V battery ... Read More
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Re: 2004 Prius 12-V Auxilliary Battery Dies Unexpectedly [steve1c]
My 12V battery on 2004 Prius turned out to have a bad cell (as tested by the dealer service) and I had to replace it today. It is not readily available at the dealers and there was a few weeks wait at a few dealers to get it. It looks like Toyota has changed the battery model number at least twice in last few years. Looking back, I have had the ... Read More
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2004 Prius 12-V Auxilliary Battery Dies Unexpectedly
It recently cost me over $300 to take care of the 12V battery dying suddenly with no dashboard indications of impending doom. The cost was about $100 for the tow to the dealer, and $215 for the battery and labor. Not a warranty item (a 2004 Prius w/60K miles, although I do have an extended warranty to 100K miles and 5 years). We had just pulled into the parking lot of ... Read More
Toyota Prius Test Drive - What Do You Think?
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Re: Questions about your Toyota Prius Test Drives [stevedebi]
I have a 2004. 1. Acceleration is not just good but great at all speeds UNLESS the battery boost is depleted from 5-10 minutes of severe uphill driving like going over a mountain pass. It gets back to normal when you come down the other side and the battery has a chance to recharge. 2. There was a software problem that sounds like what you describe. It got a lot of ... Read More
Toyota Prius Suspension/Steering Problems
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Re: Prius rear wheel alignment [jimdemaine]
I have experienced the exact issue you are describing. I own a 2004 prius and I could sense there was a problem with the car since I brought it home two years ago. The original tires were replaced at 31000 mi at my own expense because the Toyota dealer in Rochester, MI would not help me. In fact, they refused to acknowledge that there was an issue. To my utter disbelief, ... Read More
Mazda 5 vs. Toyota Prius
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Mazda 5 vs. Toyota Prius
My friend is moving to Tokyo and is willing to sell me either one of his two cars. The first is a 2004 Toyota Prius with 41K miles. The cars is clean, with a few bumper marks from city driving. The second is a 2006 Mazda 5 with 9K miles on it. The cars are each available at the same price, and I'm wondering which vehicle is a better buy. My ... Read More
Toyota Prius Dash & Instrumentation Questions
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Trouble at 60,000 checkup
Hi, I have a 2004 Prius with the GPS. The day before my 60,000 mile checkup, my screen went berserk and showed little or nothing - and radio and heater stopped working. I brought it in, paid $400. for the checkup and was then told that they'd have to order a part to get the GPS and all that's attached to the screen controls, radio, heater, monitors. That part and the ... Read More
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Prius Pkg#6 in Los Angeles
First time poster, long time reader. I just traded in my 2004 Chevrolet (gasp) Corvette for a new Prius with Pkg#6. Got a great deal at Manhattan Beach Toyota, paying invoice for the car ($26,300 + floor mats)and got a more than fair deal on my trade. Had tons of equity in the Vette so I didn't use the financing incentive, but that is a great deal right now. I have ... Read More
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Re: Extended Service and Warranty Plans + LoJack and VIP system. [pathstar1
My first post on this forum, so my apologies in advance if I make a protocol error, plus I am handicapped and on strong doses of morphine for pain. I tell you this because my memory is very poor and I forget things. For those who say the extended warranty is not worth it, you are probably right with a Toyota. All bets off with a hybrid. The fuel and electrical ... Read More
Toyota Prius
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Re: Battery Replacement [gscheil1]
Other than owner abuse to my knowledge none, or a tiny miniscule number, have ever been replaced for failure. If it's within or very close to 100K then it's still within warranty until 2009. Toyota's own testing indicates that the batteries should last the life of the vehicle ( 150K? 200K? 250K? ). Do a google and see how many actual owners have had the batteries fail. Lot's of people were ... Read More
2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Toyota Prius: Prices Paid & Buying Experiences [sonysw]
I have a white 2004 "Car of the Year" Prius with 24,000 miles with the California passenger lane stickers already on. Doesn't do me any good since I am now living in Corpus Christi, TX, but I am thinking of selling it on e-mail. It's in very good condition inside and out and excellent mechanical condition. I have the extended warranty which I believe is transferrable. I bought the car at ... Read More
Toyota Prius
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Re: Touring vs. non-Touring [philmo]
I've never driven the HCH, but a previous rental experience with a 2004 Prius left me with a very unfavorable impression of car, due to what I perceived as "soft", "floaty" and "numb" handling. The advent of the Touring Edition made me take another look, and I'm happy to say that it addressed my previous concerns, to the point that I bought one yesterday. What constitutes "acceptable" ride and handling is ... Read More
Prius Safety & Crash Test Ratings
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Prius Safety and accidents, crash
I picked up this stories and sited few, click on the links: But first this is VERY INTERESTING, Read :D http://members.greenpeace.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=536 http://www.toyotaownersonline.com/stories/stories.php?id=148&vt=Hybrid&topic= http://priuschat.com/index.php?s=3428e05fd1286b676564e579febb5b14&showtopic=2357- 8 Safety Measures: http://www.autointell.com/News-2004/May-2004/May-2004-1/May-05-04-p3.htm Hope this help a lil. :D http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/safety.aspx?year=2006&make=Toyota&model=Prius
Toyota Prius
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2007/ 2008 Prius info
First 2007 touring picture: http://toyota.jp/prius/grade/touring/ Seat-height adjustment and tilt/telescope steering wheel will not appear until the 2008(possibly 2009USA) model Prius(if they do ever happen). The 2007 Prius is a 2006 carry over with new numeric option packages, standard side and side curtain SRS, and the addition of the touring package for the USA which has been available in Japan and Europe since 2004. YMMV, MidCow Add a 6-speed manual and I ... Read More
Toyota Prius Basic Care & Maintenance
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And to follow up
The Prius uses Goodyear Integrity tires (at least the 2004-06 generation), and these are not directional. When radial tires first became common the early 70s, they were not supposed to be crossed during rotation. But as I said, and pf flyer has concurred, today's radials (as long as they are not directional) are typically recommended to be crossed. Toyota recommends differently however, and I don't know why.
Toyota Prius Software Problems
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Re: Toyota Prius Software Problems [stevedebi]
I have a 2004 Prius that just went in for service and the dealer said there was a recall which required reprogramming the car. The car was fine before that other than the occasional check engine light after restarting the car after a long trip. After the reprogramming - now I get alot of the electrical type failures reported by others - radio cuts off, display disappears, climate screen says air ... Read More
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Re: Prius died on I-40 [user777]
We'll make sure it is documented, thanks. This is seeming to me not to be a problem that is limited to a specific model year, as I see postings of the same problem for models from 2001 through 2006 (on this forum and there are 2 others from 2006 on the NHTSA ODI website). About 24,000 cars were recalled from 2004 and 5 by Toyota for the problem, but clearly others ... Read More
Toyota Prius Accessories & Modifications
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Re: Hybrid Hacks!!! [audioshybrid]
They work. There is also CanView. It can display lots of data on the MFD from the "CAN bus". Works on 2004 and 2005 Prius, but not yet on 2006 (display has gone to higher standards). Do a Google search for it. Several posters on other Forums have reported the EV mod was installed and their Toyota dealer didn't comment on it. It's standard in Europe anyway, so shouldn't cause any ... Read More
Toyota Prius Software Problems
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Re: car starts by itself
I'm new to this site... I have a 2004 prius -- mine has had intermitten glitches and it has been starting by itself for over two years and it gets pretty upsetting when I have been out of the vehicle for hours and it is on when I return. At times the windows will roll down on their own and that really "sucks" when it happens during a rain storm or ... Read More
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