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2003 Toyota ECHO Consumer Discussions
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Toyota Echo
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Re: 2003 [kneisl1]
Even with the 1.5 the iQ should still make about the same fuel economy as the Smart car, and unlike the Smart it will run on regular gas! :-) I think one car that comes close to matching the Echo for all those attributes you mentioned is its successor, the Yaris. It is the most reliable Toyota, and among the top 5 most reliable for all cars. And it gets close ... Read More
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Re: years [kneisl1]
To that we should add that after 2003, Echo was an order-only model (no standing stock on dealer lots) so sales plunged dramatically to very low levels. Also, production of the '05s ended very early and Yaris didn't arrive until mid-2006 as a 2007 model, so for about 18 months (from about January 2005 on until summer 2006) there was effectively no model below the Corolla at the Toyota store....
Toyota Echo Accessories and Modifications
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Re: Armrest= www.husco.com [jason02echo]
I recently purchased an armrest for my 2003 Echo from Ebay. It fits well but is only available in black. Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Echo-Yaris-Armrest-Accoudoir-also-Aygo-Ave- nsis_W0QQitemZ360032692885QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item360032692885
Toyota Echo Maintenance and Repair
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front bumper cover BLACK
Hello, i'm looking for a front bumper cover for my Toyota Echo 2003 4 doors sedan. I don't want the primed one (ready to paint) but the BLACK one (textured). Any good address and pricing where to buy AND shipping in Canada?
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Just curious about maintenance (2003 Echo)
Hi, I have an '03 Echo, my first car. Just curious about costs of periodic maintenance. Today I did my 30,000 mile scheduled maintenance at the Toyota dealership. I assume that a dealer will be more expensive than other options...just curious if the following are reasonable: 1) Replaced Front Brake pads [Parts+Labor=$140] 2) Four-Wheel Alignment [Parts+Labor=$80] 3) Exterior Drive Belt Replacement [Parts+Labor=$56] 4] Lube Oil and Filter Service [Parts+Labor=$43] 5) Oil ... Read More
Toyota ECHO headlights
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Help!! Toyota ECHO headlights!!!
Hi every one I am new here so I wanna say hI and thank you to anyone that might be a help to me. I got the wife a 2003 toyota ECHO a year ago and it's been a great little car for us sinc. we drive 60 miles round trip to work every day. Til a few nights ago the Hi Beams went out! Went to turn them on andall ... Read More
Toyota Echo Transmission
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Re: bad news [kneisl1]
Sorry to hear your problem, I have two toyota echos, I have a 2000 and a 2003,both with auto trans. The 2000 I had the trans fluid changed at about 40k.the 2003 I bought used and I will change it myself.Never had any problems with either. have the trans oil changed at the dealer first! and have them flush it, . :D
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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Re: micweb has tried foreign makes... [iluvmysephia1]
And also a 2003 Honda Civic coupe, plus two VW Golfs (2001 and 2004), and an Echo. The Focii I had, except for the first, were remarkably defect free, as was the second Golf. The Cobalt I have has 3 defects, nothing major, the new Caliber has 2 defects so far (trim panel rattle, and 10% failure to latch on first slam on the driver's door). It will be interesting to ... Read More
Toyota Echo Owners: Meet the Members
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oil drain plug
Hi, I have a 2003 toyota echo. Great little car. I decided to change the oil myself. Got under may car and tried to wratchet the drain plug and could'nt get it loose. It accured to me maybe this is not the drain plug. Soooo the bolt I was trying to loosen is right by the oil filter. Is this correct? Please respond my car is up on two wheels right ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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Re: 2003 ECHO add-ons? [fyrdncr]
How funny! I have an '02 like your '03, which I originally bought just as a stopgap for a year or two, but which I have lately been turned on to a bit more, and have been looking into upgrades for. So let me go through your items one by one: - clock: this is not too expensive, as it is already wired for it behind the panel. The clock itself ... Read More
Toyota Echo Maintenance and Repair
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Non-adjustable headlights
My recently purchased used 2003 Echo has 2 intentionally designed maintenance problems, both costly to the consumer. #1, non-adjustable valves, was covered in a prior posting. #2 is the non-adjustable headlights. There are no obvious adjustable mounts on the headlight assemblies, contrary to every other car that I have ever owned. Toyota of Gilroy, Ca., where I bought it, told me that special tools, procedures, and such were needed, "Bring it ... Read More
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Re: Echo Vacuum [kellyd2]
YES YES YES! My hubby and I just drove home our (new to us) 2003 Echo and to our dismay experienced this same issue while driving on the highway!! Is this a defect in these cars because it was never mentioned when I looked it up pre purchase on consumer reports! It honestly feels like either my ear drums will explode or the windows will. Did you get any answers when ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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Re: Recall Advice - Corrosion Protection [rwgreenberg]
I received the recall letter from Toyota last December for my 2003 Echo, and contacted two local Toyota dealers for the warranty work. The first one refused to honor the work saying the recall only apply to certain geographical regions not to all Echos. The second dealer set up an appointment and ordered the parts. The repair was done in the same day, and the dealer did a very good job. ... Read More
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Echo needs a tune-up?
I have 2 issues. 2003 Echo with 51,500 miles. When I put the car in drive or am accelerating, there is a belt or something that is making noise, almost a scratchy/sickly sound. It gets better as the car warms up but its still there whenever I am accelerating. It doesn't happen when I touch the gas lightly or when I gun it, only at mid-acceleration. Has anyone else had this ... Read More
Toyota Echo Maintenance and Repair
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The Creaking Toyota Echo
Has anyone else experienced a noise like this in the echo? The 2003 Toyota Echo I owned produced a noise from the rear of the vehicle right from the day I drove it off the dealerships lot. It sounded like glass on metal or metal on metal. I spent numerous visits to the dealership hoping their technicians would correct the problem. I ended up having to take Toyota to arbitration. The ... Read More
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Rear noise in Toyota Echo 2003
The 2003 Toyota Echo I owned produced a noise from the rear of the vehicle right from the day I drove it off the dealerships lot. I spent numerous visits to the dealership hoping their technicians would correct the problem. I ended up having to take Toyota to arbitration. The arbitrator ruled in my favour and awarded me a buy back. Has anyone else experienced a noise like this in the ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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new echo owner
Hello, We bought a 2003 2dr toyota echo. Fell in love with it the first time I saw it. It has power nothing, but I dont care.(not even power steering!) The thing is, friends with SUVs and other big cars have been scaring me over and over about echo being small and how I can be in danger on the road! I will be using the car in New Jersey.. Any ... Read More
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Re: Possible Purchase of 2003 Echo [reba05]
If you look at JD Powers and Consumer Reports, Toyota is number one for long-term reliability (well, actually, Lexus is, but that is Toyota's luxury division). The Echo is listed as extremely reliable by Consumer Reports. (I know some people will say CR is wrong, or biased, or whatever, but try to find a better source of good data!) Remember that these forums attract the few people who do have problems, ... Read More
Toyota Echo Care and Maintenance
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Dashboard surface doesn't stick
I have a 2003 Toyota Echo. And being an anime fan, I was trying to stick some mini anime figurines onto the dashboard, but nothing seems to stick! I've tried sticky tape, blu tac, double-sided tape, suction caps... they all just slide off. Does anyone know what I need to use to stick something onto the dashboard??
Toyota Echo
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Possible Purchase of 2003 Echo
I am looking to purchase an '03 Echo with 43,000 miles. I have been looking through the forum and noticing problems owners have had with this vehicle (have never owned a Toyota). Most seem to be for older models than the '03 but I am wondering if I should be hesitant with purchasing this vehicle? I worry about the cost of parts for Foriegn made vs. American made cars. Anyone with ... Read More
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Happy with my 2003 Echo
I bought my 2003 Echo on September 4, 2004. It had been a leased car and had 8800 miles on it when I purchased it for $13,800, specifially for my courier route. I paid the Toyota dealer $600 to add cruise control, installed about 2 weeks after I purchased the car. This dropped the gas mileage from 39 mpg to about 35 mpg (worth the loss in my opinion). I am ... Read More
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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sub-10 class
The only attraction a Rio has is its low price. The Rio is the only new car that some people can afford. Hyundai Rios compete on price. If they can't stay under $9,000 for a Rio - they might as well not make them, cuz almost nobody would buy them. As far as the Aveo... I'm not even going to get into its Daewoo roots because I think there are a ... Read More
Toyota Echo Owners: Meet the Members
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2003 ECHO
I was just looking for a car to get me back and forth to work. I wanted an inexpensive car that got good gas mileage. I ended up purchasing a Toyota Echo - I compared, Kia Rio, Ford Focus, Saturn Ion. I didn't go near the Neon, I researched it and it seemed like a mediocre car, with mediocre quality at a not-so-mediocre price. I liked the Saturn Ion the best, ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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My ECHO
I've got a 2003 ECHO with 23,000 miles on it, with no problems so far. I drive it pretty hard, and get it up to 105 mph for 5 to 10 minutes at a time at least 3 times a week. ya I know I'm crazy... but anyway, I'm happy with my Toyota. I could have purchased a Kia or a Hyundai for less, but I questioned the Kia & Hyundai ... Read More
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Re: Used ECHO [kneisl1]
My plan is to have it shipped to Germany. Shipping cost will probably be between $1000-1500. New developements: This is a certified used Toyota, which means that it goes through a 160pt check (theoretically). The salesman doesn't seem to be budging on his bottom price of $8400. So I'll have to add on at least 1500 to that for shipping, which would make it close to $10K. Do you think this ... Read More
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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Echo vs. Xa
Either one would be a great car, but I like the Echo over the Xa. One of the reasons being that I felt the rearward visibility (when looking at the rearview mirror) was better. And due to the heavier weight of the Xa, acceleration is better in the Echo. Handling should be better in the Xa with the additional suspension components. Fuel economy will be better with the Echo. I took ... Read More
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SCION XA v. TOYOTA ECHO
Greetings, I am currently looking to buy an 2005 ECHO or XA- but I am torn! I am looking for owners' pearls of wisdom, likes, dislikes, pleasant surprises and disappointments with both cars. I just read a set of posts (made in 2003) comparing the XA tot he ECHO, but I would like to start a more current discussion. Anything you can comment on is greatly appreciated. The ECHO seems sensible, ... Read More
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low end sedans
I ended up purchasing a Toyota Echo - I compared, Kia Rio, Ford Focus, Saturn Ion. I liked the Saturn Ion the best, as far as the ride, and its clutch. But I wanted a reliable car with a proven history and the Ion was new and didn't have a history. Consumer reports rated the 2003 Echo high on reliability. I drove the Kia Rio and didn't like the ride, or ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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Echo sales
For the first quarter of 2004, Toyota sold 6,600 Echos, up almost 30% over 2003 (Toyota as a whole is down 2% in its car sales in Canada). The Echo is the 5th best selling car in Canada (excluding light trucks), and sells almost as many as the Corolla does. Although the sales figures I've seen aren't broken out by bodystyle, I'm sure that it's remarkable sales performance is due to ... Read More
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I just checked the Toyota site. Here are the numbers for March 2,004: ECHO: 384 Scion xA: 3,486 Scion xB: 7,675 I didn't foresee the Scions having that much appeal. They must be doing something right. Prior calendar year sales for ECHO: 2003: 26,167 2002: 30,859 2001: 42,464 2000: 48,876 1999: 10,490 (introduction as '00 model in USA)
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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Re JD Powers
In the 2003 IQS awards, Prius was #1 in the Compact Car class, followed by Corolla and then (tie) Lancer and ECHO. Here's how CR ranked the top makes for 2003 models in number of problems per 100 vehicles: Lexus 9 Infiniti 10 Honda 10 Toyota 11 Acura 13 Mazda 13 Buick 13 Saturn 14 Hyundai 14 Nissan 14 Pontiac 15 Dodge 16 Saab 16 Kia 16 Jeep 16 Average model ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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Sales figures
I found a website that gave a rundown of sales figures for a number of cars. For 2003 (calendar year and not model year), Toyota sold around 26,000 Echos. On the one hand pretty bad sales figures, but if you consider that there is virtually no advertising and no promotion going on, then you would have to say it is pretty good.
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RE: Open Letter
I doubt the Editors will ever change. I laughed when I read their review of the Aveo. Toyota got slammed for the difference in price between a base Echo and a nicely equipped Echo, but Chevrolet does not get slammed for the difference in price between a base Aveo and the price of an Aveo equipped the way most people will want it. Ah, inconsistency thy name is Edmunds. Sorry I ... Read More
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Importing from Canada.
I have done a bit of research on this. See my postings here dated Dec 10 and 11, 2003. I am told by the import agents that, for the Toyota Echo, there would be no problem getting the car registered. It takes about 10 days, and the agents will help with this. They charge about 300.00 US. There is a modest import duty for a Canadian Toyota Echo, because it is ... Read More
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Why Echo Sales Dropped
I bought a Scion xA in September of 2003. I bought it from Longo Toyota, probably the nation's largest Toyota dealer, in El Monte, just east of downtown Los Angeles. I also bought an Echo from Longo, in April of 2002. When I bought the Echo from Longo they had about 20 or so in stock. When I bought the Scion, they told me they had no Echo's in stock, they ... Read More
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2002 Black 2 door Echo
Hello, I would like to thank everyone here for all the new's on the Echo. I had to go out and buy me a Echo this week after all the good news that you all have talked about on here.I had to look all over FL to get a 2002 Echo but i did get one after alot of hard work and looking at all the Toyota lot's on line .I ... Read More
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mrowens42
I personally would not buy from that used car dealer. I'd prefer to buy a certified used Echo from an authorized Toyota dealer. I do not trust used car dealers and don't intend to in the future. That price seems awfully low for a used 2003, I'd be more suspicious than interested. Pay a little bit more and drive with peace of mind.
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2003 Used ECHO
Local used car dealer (not Toyota)has 2003 Echo w/5000 miles.Pretty much base car but has air.Asking $9,800. Dealer's rep not the best,but could take it to local Toyota dealer and have it checked for $50.00. Opinions please.
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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majorthomecho
I really like the 2003 Echo facelift and the little changes in the interior like the logo on the steering wheel are nice touches. The car has real personality. Congrats to your friend. My family has owned a pile of Toyotas; Tercels, Camrys Corolla, Highlander, Sienna and Avalon. They are great cars as long as they are properly maintained. I myself have an '02 Corolla which I love. How does the ... Read More
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The search is over.....
The search for a car for my roommate is now over. She looked at Kia's (due strictly on price), but the salesman turned her off. I suggested that we try looking at Toyotas. When we went, we really intented that she would end up with a new Cororlla, but she finally went with a 2003 Echo (due to the available rebate). It is equipped exactly as my 2001. As she has ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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Say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss.....
Well, my roommate got a car yesterday and guess what? It is a 2003 automatic Toyota Echo. Gray in color, but otherwise a twin to my 2001 in terms of accessories.
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bought Echo instead of Scion
went to dealer w/ my daughter to look at used Corrolas - bought her new blue 2003 Echo at dealer invoice. She couldn't stand either Scion. She absolutely loves the Echo. Traded our '99 Sienna. This is my 10th Toyota! '72 Corona Mark II (parent's) '77 Pickup (new) '81 Tercel (new) '82 Tercel (new) '83 Pickup (new) '88 MR2 (new) '99 Sienna (new) '01 Tacoma (used) '01 MR2 (new) '03 Echo ... Read More
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'03 Echo
The 2003 freshening makes the Echo look much nicer and more upscale. We have a '02 Corolla and looked seriously at the Echo since it was nearly the same size in terms of interior space and trunk. However, my wife did not like the appearance as much as the old Tercel. The new car however looks great and I saw the hatch version at the Toronto auto show - I really ... Read More
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Various subjects
Got back last night from a trip to St. Louis. Filled up here to Kansas City and then at Columbia on the way back. Total mileage was 411 miles and the Echo took 9.935 gallons to bring it back to where the fuel level was before the trip started. This means the Echo returned slightly in excess of 41 mpg. Pretty amazing when you learn that the miles to St. Louis ... Read More
Toyota Echo Owners Photo Gallery
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2003 Echo is nice except
I like the redesign of the Echo. Except for the front. It is way better looking now that they redesigned the tail light lenses but the front does look a little like cookie cutter styling. But overall i would purchase one. And what is this i hear about the Echo being discontinued. Why would Toyota discontinue the Echo after they just redesigned it. I should carry over for at least another ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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kneisl1
that's great about the mileage on your Echo - the best I ever got with my Corolla in the city was 34 mpg - which is pretty good - the worst was 27 mpg/city, most of the time I get 30-32 mpg city - if I were in the market for a new car today I think I would get a 2003 Echo - I think Toyota did an excellent job ... Read More
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From Kia To Echo
Hi All ~ About 2 1/2 years ago, I had a choice between a Kia Sportage and a Toyota Echo. Had a gut feeling about the Echo, but went with the Sportage. Well, 2 1/2 years later, I'm not sure of the problem, but either the tires or the 4 wheel drive (not sure which) on this particular Kia (even if not on any other one) is horrible. I can't see ... Read More
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2003 ECHO
I saw my first 2003 ECHO on the street last night. (Ive seen them in dealers lots, but covered with protective plastic stuff) Cant understand why they went to the expence of restyling it as there isnt much difference. The thing that stands out is the Toyota emblem on the front of the car. I like the origional style better IMHO. Im couldnt be more pleased with the changes as now ... Read More
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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major
So what? Does that make the Echo the best 2003 low end car? IMO, nobody in their right mind would walk into a Toyota dealership and pick the Echo over the new Corolla. There is almost no difference in gas mileage between the two cars. Hmmm...minimal (and I mean MINIMAL) fuel savings, or a better car in every way? The choice is clear.....
Toyota Echo
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2003 ECHO
I saw a 2003 ECHO in the local dealers lot this morning. Somehow, someway, Toyota has managed to make this car look WORSE. They removed the front Toyota logo from its place on the hood and moved it below to the grill, in the process surrounding it with a black plastic bulge. So now it looks like ECHO has a ZIT in the middle of its forehead. The interior also has ... Read More
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Centrally-located instrument cluster in Saturn Ion
First Drive: 2003 Saturn Ion While saying that they could "do without" the centrally-located instrument cluster in the Ion, at least Edmunds didn't accuse Saturn of cost-cutting or compromising safety -- as they accused Toyota of doing with ECHO. To anyone considering ECHO: Test drive it yourself; you may be surprised at how quickly you adjust.
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no title
I drove through a local Toyota dealer parking lot today and they had a 2003 ECHO in the bronze color. I think it has lost that lovable look that it had. Toyota really screwed up by pushing the headlamps into the car. The lenses should have been flush with the hood and grille.
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Presenting the 2003 ECHO!
I assume that Japan's Platz will look like the new ECHO, as it was the same car for the past few years. http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/Platz/ The front looks a lot like a Civic Hybrid and Prius combined. It looks like Toyota spent a TON of money to reconfigure its manufacturing machinery to make these changes. It was quite a few million just to make the 2003 update for the Avalon.
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kneisl1
Go to www.toyota.ca and there you will find a few photos of the new 2003 Echo.
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2003 Echo...
Even on Toyota.com, for the interior pics, they still show a 2002 Echo. I wanted to see what the dash looked like, but it was the 2002 dash. Weird.
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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no title
Wow, this thread has been pretty idle for a while. Well, to shake things up, check out the 2003 ECHO. http://www.toyota.com/echo I like it!
Toyota Echo
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www.toyota.com/echo The American Toyota site has updated the ECHO page for 2003. Wow, that black ECHO on the main ECHO page looks very sharp...reminds me of the last Tercel. Actually, the site is partially up, but should be finished within the next day. Usually they don't leave it half finished for too long. The rear of the black ECHO looks fantastic with a crisp trunk lid. Don't tell the 2003 Accord ... Read More
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Further Comments on Tire Upgrade
The stock tires on the Echo seem better than average in terms of grip and handling - or maybe the suspension on the Echo is better than we think (given that the car seems to be designed as a Japanese urban commuter). I upgraded them, however, to 195x60/14 about 2000 miles ago to get better cross wind performance. (Bridgestone 950's, excellent, easier to balance than Dunlop Sport A2's.) The new tires ... Read More
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mpg on Corolla -
I know this is about the Echo but may I chime in hear regarding gas mileage - my '01 Corolla (4 speed auto) has gotten as good as 34 MPG and as low as 28.5 MPG (city driving) - I have seen quite a few Echos where I live and I must admit at first I thought they looked a little strange - but now I guess the Echo has grown ... Read More
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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But the main reason few people buy an ECHO is...
Not styling (although that reduces the number of potential buyers). Here's the main reason I think few people buy an ECHO these days: 2003 Corolla CE 4-door 5-speed: $13,855 MSRP 2002 ECHO 4-door 5-speed, equipped as close as I could get to the Corolla without adding extra stuff like cladding, but still without power mirrors, CD, and tachometer: $13,120 MSRP So my theory goes, people go to their Toyota dealer looking ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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cwo4
A salesman at a Toyota dealership recently told me that after this year (2003 I presume) they will no longer make the Echo -
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Echo interior versus Corolla interior
My roommate and I took a test drive of the 2003 Corolla yesterday. Very impressive car and I thought it was at the top of my roommate's list. However, we were driving around today and passed a red Echo. My roommate said that the Corolla was very nice, but she preferred my Echo. The major reasons were the interior design of the Echo and the center mounted gauge cluster. We are ... Read More
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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Suzuki Aerio, the Toyota Corolla, and other thoughts
The roommate and I made a quick stop at the Suzuki dealership because we were immensely curious about the instrument cluster given it is all digital. I will have to say that it is highly readable. I would not cross the Aerio off your list because of the digital instruments. My roommate stayed in the Echo so I cannot tell you her reaction. The sales manager is the one who helped ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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I'm a girl
and I don't consider it to be "girly" - to me it's just a uniquely-styled little car boasting the Toyota emblem - I heard that Toyota won't be making the Echo anymore after 2003 though -
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That would be a shame.
Only 4 years of production? I say it won't need a replacement if Toyota could get a small sedan for Scion here by the time ECHO is out. If it does get pulled for 2004...don't expect a refreshment for 2003 which would be typical of a Toyota sedan, almost as tragic as the death of the Paseo after only 2 years of a new model which wasn't all that bad. Is ... Read More
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Echo -
won't be made anymore after next year according to a Toyota salesman I spoke to last week - I guess he meant model year 2003.
Toyota Echo Owners Photo Gallery
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blue_echo
yes, I have a '01 Corolla and those do look just like my wheel covers - I visited a Toyota dealership today (to get another look at the '03 Corolla; they only had one) and I saw a few Echos on the lot - the salesman said they will not be making them anymore after next year (not sure if he meant model year 2002 or 2003) - I asked "you ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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2003 Corolla
Hey Slugline -- your summation of the 2003 Corolla was exactly my thoughts when I saw it at a local autoshow last week. WoW, what a nice looking vehicle, much more upscale than the Echo, and eeeek... the seating is also very comfortable and high. Had I waited 4 months, I would have bought the new Corolla afterall -- and this coming from someone who really loves her ECHO. Some things ... Read More
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2003 Corolla
I spotted the new Corolla on the road for the first time yesterday. My first reaction was "Hey, that's a nice looking car!" While there are few nameplates that have such a well-earned reputation, I've never thought of Corollas as lookers before. From the outside, it looks like this car has more room inside. So as far as the marketplace is concerned, the ECHO could be in trouble. The base Corolla ... Read More
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4 year cycle
Several Toyota employees have told me that Toyota cars have four year "cycles"; 2003 will be year four for the Echo.
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Well,
Wouldn't ECHO be up for a refreshening for 2003, based on the Toyota 5 year cycle. But, if it is going to be pulled, why spend the money on the slight changes?
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re: will Echo be discontinued
As far as I know there will be a 2003 Echo, and it will be the same as the 2000-2002 models. I don't know what Toyota is planning for 2004 and beyond.
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Will Echo be discontinued?
Now that the roomier 2003 Corolla is out, with higher seating as well as prices not too different than the Echo, does anyone know if the current Echo will be discontinued? I had read rumors several months ago that Toyota would bring the 2 door hatchback Vitz/Yaris this year to the US.
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2003 Echo
Does anyone have any information on the changes Toyota will make to the 2003 Echo, which will be the car's fourth model year, since Toyota typically "restyles/upgrades" at that time? I'm hoping for a new front fascia that makes the car look less cartoony. ~alpha
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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Anybody favor Suzuki automobiles?
Here's a spyshot of one of their's scheduled for 2003 release in the U.S. http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=4411&n=158,178&sid=178 It kinda looks like a cross between a Kia Spectra sedan and a Toyota Echo, eh? Are we getting lots more choices or what? This looks all right though I haven't seen the back of it, yet. The car makers seem to dig the foglights or at least a big round opening for one down below ... Read More
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To ichem1 re advice
First off, go out and drive those cars you mentioned to see which one you think you'll enjoy driving the most for the next 20 years. Take it for a real long test drive--you'll be living with the car for a long time after all. See if you can't take it out all day, or even all weekend, even if you have to rent it. Drive it over the same roads ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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A question for those "in the know".
Toyota uses a 5 year cycle for its sedans. Does anyone know if the ECHO will follow this cycle? The ECHO came out in 2000, 2002 will be its 3rd year. Usually in the 5 year cycle, the 4th year will see a refreshing. Then after 5 years, it gets a total makeover. Does anyone know if the ECHO will follow this cycle? If it does, do you know of any ... Read More
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Camry's Out!
I was very interested in the 2002 Camry up until this evening. I was pulling my mom's Avalon out of the side yard and into the garage. I found that maneuvering such a large vehicle is very hard, at least for me since I'm only 15 and have no experience in driving cars. The new Camry is only about 2 inches shorter than the Avalon so I assume it will be ... Read More
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First time driver
Both of my parents work for Toyota (which saves me around $2000 on a new car :-) )and very soon I shall be driving and I have several decisions to make on what car I want. I have several 2002 models in mind. These are the ECHO, Corolla, Celica, Camry (redesign), Solara, RAV4 and Matrix (2003). The ECHO, Matrix and Corolla would be loaded. Celica, RAV4 would be moderately loaded while ... Read More
Low End Sedans (under $16k)
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Got a real up close and personal comparison
between my Sephia's rear end and the Toyota Echo's rear end. Yes, the Echo is so homely that I think Toyota engineers have a pretty good sense of humor. Similar to Pontiac Aztek. I know it's an SUV but homely is next to....whew! No, I'll take the aesthetically pleasing lines of the Sephia and it's good attention to design over any Japanese 4-door sedan. That goes for German(except Jetta)and all American ... Read More
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Mazda's a cash-drain.........
of late. Not enough profits for those whom have financial stake in them. The Miata is nice and the 4-door sedans are sleek looking. The minivan appears to be a bit of a bust. Protege tries to look as good as the beautiful Sephia and looks way better than Toyota's Echo and looks somewhat better than Toyota's Corolla(though the 2003 design currently being sold in Hong Kong looks much better to ... Read More
Toyota Echo
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Echo wagon?
Hey, I posted a message a while ago and didn't get any replies. Does anyone out there or at Edmunds know if Toyota plans to make an Echo wagon? How about the 2003 Corrola - will it be available in wagon form? Thanks!!
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