2008 Toyota 4Runner Consumer Discussions

2010 Toyota 4Runner redesign

• Re: New Jeep Grand Cherokee Betters New Toyota 4Runner (Consumer Reports) [tsu670]

  Written by: stateofmaine on Nov 5, 2010 3:43:27 PM

  want to add to my previous post that there is a big difference in how reasonable the "wait and see" approach is in buyers' consideration of these two vehicles. namely: the Grand Cherokee (Jeep itself, more broadly) has a well-founded/deserved reputation for poor quality stretching back many, many years. every mention of Jeep on this sub-forum has come with that caveat and commensurate hesitation, and the professional auto reviewers never fail ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration

• Re: 2008 Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration [wwest]

  Written by: tsu670 on Aug 7, 2010 6:55:29 AM

  Toyota has been retrofitting the brake override feature on thousands of vehicles in the past year. If this is something I decide to do (or not do) with my 4Runner, it will be because I received more authoritative information on the matter than what I might get from a Car Space forum.

• Re: 2008 Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration [tsu670]

  Written by: wwest on Aug 6, 2010 10:14:47 AM

  The only way to easily and quickly retrofit, backfit, a brake override is to reprogram the firmware for the engine/transaxle controlling ECU, firmware that itsself might well be the SUA causative factor. Good luck on that...!!

• Re: 2008 Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration [smsgtretired]

  Written by: tsu670 on Aug 5, 2010 4:33:54 PM

  I understand Toyota has been adding the brake override feature to all of the vehicles they have been repairing under the recall. It's too late now (sounds like you already traded it for something else), but how hard would it have been for them to add the override to your 4Runner?

• Re: 2008 Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration [smsgtretired]

  Written by: wwest on Aug 5, 2010 8:20:28 AM

  I wonder if some of these problems, SUA problems, might be the result of an intermittent, possibly one time failure, of the brake power boost system, engine VACUUM boost. If the vacuum boost valve shut remains open when you apply the brakes that would provide a serious level of airflow into the engine manifold, the upstream oxygen sensor would detect an oxygen rich environment and enrich the mixture accordingly. Not full ... Read More

• Re: 2008 Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration [actualsize]

  Written by: wwest on Aug 5, 2010 8:14:23 AM

  '''.....brake override....requires an electronic throttle...." No. An independent, failsafe, brake override would simply open a circuit, spark, fuel pump, fuel injectors, if the brakes are applied and the engine doesn't quickly drop to idle. Using the electronic throttle control, engine/transaxle control ECU, for override would be inappropriate since that is most likely to be the faulty component. And a retrofit, backfit, using the current engine control ECU, reprogramming, is reasonable approach ... Read More

• Re: 2008 Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration [actualsize]

  Written by: smsgtretired on May 17, 2010 4:25:02 PM

  The dust has all settled. Toyota says they could not duplicate the condition and could not find anything wrong. Withing 5 hours after they gave the Toyota back to me, it was replaced by a new vehicle that has a more favorable history with this problem. It is interesting that I am reading elsewhere that Toyota and others are coming out in 2012 with throttle override systems. Just precautionary I am ... Read More

• Re: 2008 Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration

  Written by: actualsize on May 10, 2010 5:32:55 PM

  There is no going back to cable throttles. They have many more potential failure mechanisms, and they cannot self diagnose and go to limp-home mode in any way, shape, or form. Reduced emissions, reduced fuel consumption, improved driveability, improved starting, reduced interior noise and vibration, the ability to have safety devices like traction control and stability control -- there are many more advantages to an electronic throttle system than disadvantages, including ... Read More

• Re: 2008 Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration [actualsize]

  Written by: smsgtretired on May 10, 2010 5:07:14 PM

  The local Toyota dealer in Taylorsville, IN has the vehicle. It is my understanding that a Toyota Field Rep will eventually evaluate the vehicle as well. So far, the Dealer tells me they have been unable to duplicate the condition and their computer tests are not showing any fault codes. This was definitely not a floormat problem. Wife's foot was on the brake and the vehicle was stopped when problem began. ... Read More

• Re: 2008 Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration [smsgtretired]

  Written by: actualsize on May 10, 2010 3:20:30 PM

  When you say "Toyota has it", do you mean the dealer or some higher-level Toyota field representative? Curious to know what they say. In what city and state did this occur? I recently had an episode in a Ford Fusion Hybrid that lasted 3 seconds, but it turned out to be interference with an all-weather floor mat that was out of position.

• 2008 Toyota 4Runner Sudden Unintended Acceleration

  Written by: smsgtretired on May 9, 2010 2:04:54 PM

  On May 5, 2010 our 2008 4Runner exhibited sudden unintended acceleration (SUA). Wife was at a stop, foot on brake, transmission in drive when the engine went wide open and the vehicle was out of control for about 800 feet. Toyota has it and is checking it out. I have been skeptical about these claims until it happened to us. This vehicle is not on their recall but may be very ... Read More

2010 Toyota 4Runner Recall Concerns

• Re: 2010 Toyota 4runner Engineer Concerns [friedgreen]

  Written by: smsgtretired on May 9, 2010 1:51:48 PM

  See my post where our 2008 had SUA on May 5, 2010.

• Re: Not worried [mobjack]

  Written by: smsgtretired on May 9, 2010 1:10:27 PM

  You should worry! On May 5, 2010, our 2008 Toyota 4runner exhibited sudden unintended acceleration. Wife was sitting waiting to make a right turn with foot on brake and transmission in drive. Engine speed suddenly increased and the car was out of control for about 800 feet. Nobody hurt and nothing damaged. This is our second 4runner and until this incident we loved them. Toyota came and got it and gave ... Read More

• Re: 2010 Toyota 4runner Engineer Concerns [tidester]

  Written by: tsu670 on Apr 27, 2010 7:03:23 AM

  "Also, keep in mind that the incidence of UA in Toyotas did not differ appreciably from other makes and models (it was very slightly higher) and only mushroomed after the press and Congress made a big deal over it." Actually, the media had good reason to make a story out of this. Toyota scored highest in SUA complaints by a huge margin. Ford came in a distant 2nd. 2008 SUA Stats ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Towing

• Re: Weight Distributing Hitch for 2008 V-6 4Runner [killarney]

  Written by: chuck1919 on Apr 26, 2010 4:20:59 PM

  Yes, for some reason Toyota stopped putting the heavier hitches on the V6. But I think your a little confused. First of the hitch HAS TO BE ABLE to handle a WD hitch DEVICE, the hitch itself does not distribute the weight. The WD hitch is actually a separate device. Number One - you have to switch out the hitch on your SUV. I am told the one from the V8 ... Read More

• Weight Distributing Hitch for 2008 V-6 4Runner

  Written by: killarney on Apr 26, 2010 3:25:12 PM

  I recently bought a 2008 V-6 4Runner with a Class III hitch. Just a few weeks later, I came to the conclusion that I need to be able to haul a horse trailer on short distances. The trailer will be something near, but less than, 3000 lbs, and my horse Ike is 1200-1300 lbs. Obviously, I can't haul a second horse, which will mean the weight in the trailer will be ... Read More

2010 Toyota 4Runner Recall Concerns

• Re: 2010 Toyota 4runner Engineer Concerns [friedgreen]

  Written by: tsu670 on Apr 26, 2010 10:12:49 AM

  I spotted your post yesterday and have been considering the best way to respond. For many, this has become a very emotional issue. In checking the national Office of Defects Investigation complaints website, ODI complaints, it does appear that there a few incidents of sudden unintended acceleration in Toyota 4Runners, but none so far (as of this posting) for the 2010. It should be noted that the postings in the database ... Read More

2010 Toyota 4Runner redesign

• tomtom11

  Written by: tomtom11 on Feb 14, 2010 7:10:08 PM

  I purchased a 2010 SR5 Toyota 4Runner in Dec.09.I wish someone would explain to me,why did toyota do way with the following features that were on my 2008.mud flaps,locking fuel door,running boards,linited slip rear end,locking differential,cross members on roof rack,power assist tail gate,the knob for engaging the4X4. The shift lever to engage the 4 wheel drive is hard to engage also almost inpossible to engage low range 4 wheel drive. Mud ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner vs. Nissan Pathfinder

• '07-09 4Runner vs '08-'09 Pathfinder

  Written by: sebring95 on Jan 23, 2010 7:06:26 AM

  So this is more for folks shopping used since Toyota recently released their revised 2010 4Runner. I gave the 2010 a look and while some things are improved, it's bigger, slower, and overall couldn't convince me to cough up the extra dough to go new. I like to buy very lightly used and keep the coin in my pocket. I haven't seen many folks talking about the '08+ Pathfinder here which ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Maintenance and Repair

• 2008 4Runner wiring diagrams

  Written by: boulerman on Dec 27, 2009 8:48:51 AM

  Where can I find wiring diagrams for my 2008 Toyota 4Runner. I am looking for shop manual caliber Thanks

2010 Toyota 4Runner redesign

• Re: Impressions after two weeks [stateofmaine]

  Written by: kansashick on Dec 19, 2009 11:35:48 AM

  I do mean the TRD pads. The problem with the v8 with XREAS had something to do with fleet mileage. I ordered the 2008 in about May and found out in July that Toyota could not make any more XREAS equipped 4Runners for that model year. I am just reporting what happened.

• Impressions after two weeks

  Written by: kansashick on Dec 18, 2009 2:52:19 PM

  I have had my 2010 Limited for two weeks now. Most of my driving is to and from work, a short two miles, but I have also done a few trips to the airport, 40 miles. This is my first 4Runner but I did test drive the 2008 V8 Limited and ordered one but Toyota would not sell me one with the Xreas suspension for some EPA reason that I never ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Vibrations

• 4Runner Vibrations / Flubbering / Fluttering Steering...solved.

  Written by: passinglane on Oct 29, 2009 5:34:56 AM

  I have owned an 05 4Runner 4WD/6cyl - it had Dunlop tires that wore out a bit too soon, however it had no vibrations or issues for the 45,000 miles I had it. Now, I have an 08 4Runner. It had really frightening vibrations, especially when weight was added in the cargo area, and when making turns that had a bump or two. But on a smooth freeway, half full of ... Read More

Sulfur Smell from Toyota 4Runner

• 2008 4Runner Limited - Terrible sulfer smell

  Written by: schten on Aug 19, 2009 9:31:13 PM

  I see from the previous post that this is not the first time Toyota has had a problem with their CC's. I bought a new (08) toyota 4runner Limited V8 in March with 13 miles, now has about 11K. She had her first oil change after 5000 miles (as recommended by the dealer) then a month or two later I noticed something strange. When I go from slow to fast at ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Vibrations

• 4Runner Vibrations

  Written by: nrwins on Jul 11, 2009 9:56:27 PM

  Just found this post and am glad to see I am not alone with this problem. I have a 2008 4Runner Limited V8 4WD and it vibrates at 65 MPH. I first took it to a tire place where the balance the tires twice to no avail. I then took it to my local dealer in Atlanta where they balance it twice with no help. After I wrote a blog on ... Read More

Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander vs 4-Runner 2008

• Re: Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander vs 4-Runner 2008 [wwest]

  Written by: nedzel on Jun 18, 2009 1:05:53 PM

  "The 4runner (R/awd) is the only one of those I would trust if expecting to encounter wintertime adverse roadbed conditions on a regular basis. " I've got a 4Runner. I've put 80,000 miles on it. The controlling factor in how it does in snow is the tires. I put dedicated snow tires on mine in the winter. Here in Boston, Honda Pilots and Toyota Highlanders do just fine in the snow. ... Read More

• Re: Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander vs 4-Runner 2008 [autiger1994]

  Written by: wwest on Jun 16, 2009 9:30:04 AM

  The 4runner (R/awd) is the only one of those I would trust if expecting to encounter wintertime adverse roadbed conditions on a regular basis.

Sulfur Smell from Toyota 4Runner

• 4Runner sulfur smell

  Written by: des19554 on Mar 9, 2009 2:09:18 PM

  I have a 2008 4Runner and I get the sulfur smell mostly when I drive with my sunroof and rear window open. I am now getting the smell when using the defroster. Toyota dealer told me there is nothing they can do about this, they are aware it is happening but there is no fix. Service manager told me to "just drive with the windows up"! I refuse to alter my ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Toyota SR5 demo

  Written by: sicemnae on Nov 3, 2008 4:24:36 PM

  I am looking at purchasing a Toyota SR5 4Runner with leather and a moonroof. It is a 2008 demo with 4600 miles on it. The sticker on it is $33K and the invoice on edmunds is $28ish. It is a demo though with alot of miles. What would be a fair price on this? The sales manager made the comment he would love to see it go, like it's been there ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Lease Questions

• Re: 2008 4wd Limited V6 [rsamerica1]

  Written by: Car_man on Nov 2, 2008 5:36:37 PM

  Hi rsamerica1. The truck that you are interested in probably has a spread of at least $4,000 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. That puts the $3,535 dealer discount that you were quoted at around $500 over invoice. If you opt to lease this truck through Toyota Financial Services to take advantage of its special lease program, you cannot use the $2,500 cash incentive to reduce its selling ... Read More

• Re: 4 Runner Money Factor and Residual Values [asm0721]

  Written by: Car_man on Nov 2, 2008 5:26:21 PM

  Hi asm0721. In every region that I have seen its lease program for, Toyota Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor for the 2008 4Runner is .00050 for consumers who qualify for its Tier 1+ credit tier. The residual values for this truck vary by term and mileage allowance. You never mentioned what either of these variables are, so for now I will assume that you are interested in a 36 ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2008 SR5 V6 2WD with EVP1 (SR5 value package) in Atlanta [harshveda]

  Written by: dumeelp on Nov 1, 2008 6:32:26 AM

  The dealer is Sandy Springs Toyota. Email me at dumeel.pandian@yahoo.com and I will provide the contact sales person name and number. He was very helpful in the whole process. As I said in the previous posting, it is a 2008 4Runner Sr5 V6 2WD with Sr5 Value package ( that has upgraded wheels, steering wheel control, moonroof, etc). It is kind of the basic set of options... Dumeel

• Re: 2008 Toyota SR5 V6 4WD [bamafan7727]

  Written by: lilelvis on Sep 24, 2008 5:56:42 PM

  It's a tough call in this market since 4runners are sitting on lots. That being said, asking a dealer to eat $3500 or so is a lot. If you conservatively figure their cost as invoice minus hold back (let's say $500) minus any mfr to dealer incentives (currently $1000 marketing support) then they break even at about $1500 under invoice. Of course that assumes they are getting the holdback and not ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Lease Questions

• Re: 4 Runner Money Factor and Residual Values [Car_man]

  Written by: bullynj on Aug 27, 2008 7:46:09 AM

  Hi, Im new here and live in NJ - I am looking at leasing a 2008 Toyota 4Runner SR5 cost here is 2700 down and 299 a month for 39 months. I have never leased before. Is leasing a good thing to do??

Toyota 4Runner Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: quote for 2008 4 runner SR5 2wd [piaoliangmm]

  Written by: lilelvis on Jul 16, 2008 6:45:05 PM

  Dealers are advertising $24500 +TTD for 4wd SR5s. I would think a 2wd would be quite a bit more than $500 cheaper. (That $24500 assumes you apply the $2500 toyota rebate toward the purchase.) If your price is 24,000 in lieu of the rebate (i.e. taking the financing) it might be a good deal. I don't know what invoice is on a 2wd 4runner. Personally, I wouldn't go any higher than ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Lease Questions

• 2008 Toyota 4Runner Lease

  Written by: matrsoskin on Jul 14, 2008 2:49:12 PM

  Hi folks, I thought I could share with you my outstanding lease experience with the Westboro Toyota (Boston area): 2008 4Runner V6 4WD Sport Edition, 36 months/12K miles per year, for $424/month with $424 due at signing. I flew in, drove back ~800 miles and still saved ~$1500 compared to the best offer I had received from the local dealers within the 300 miles radius. The typically equipped SR5s can be ... Read More

• June 2008 4Runner Southeast Toyota lease Rates

  Written by: stratburst on Jun 1, 2008 7:36:55 PM

  Shopping for an 08 4runner. A SE Toyota dealer quoted a .00119 Teir1 money factor with a 56% residual on a 48 month lease. I want a 36 month term but dealer states that its not an option. Can anyone confirm this? What should the Tier1 rate be on a 36 month, 48 month term be? Thanks!

• Re: 4Runner SR5 2WD residual and money factor? [passat_mx]

  Written by: Car_man on May 27, 2008 2:15:28 AM

  Hi passat_mx. Toyota Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2WD with 15,000 miles per year are .00087 and 55%, respectively. Keep in mind though that TFS calculates vehicles' residual values differently than most banks do. Most banks just use a straight percentage of vehicles' full MSRPs including all options, but TFS places restrictions upon what ... Read More

• Re: 2008 4Runner Limited [rjohnson1987]

  Written by: Car_man on May 27, 2008 2:10:43 AM

  Hi rjohnson1987. Toyota Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2008 4Runner Limited V8 4WD with 15,000 miles per year are .00087 and 55%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its "Tier 1+" credit tier. Keep in mind though that TFS calculates vehicles' residual values differently than most banks do. Most banks just use a straight percentage of vehicles' full ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Recent 2008 Sports Edition 4WD quote and purhcase price

  Written by: alex214 on May 13, 2008 9:46:38 PM

  This is a great forum and the following are highlights of my recent 4runner SE purchase... What I wanted: Any Sports Edition with light color What I bought: V6 4WD with QW, RL, B0, P4 Time took me to get an agreeable deal: 1 month. Dealers that have reasonable quotes and good response to internet inq: (price listed are before rebate deduction) Manhattan Toyota (Socal) - best price for urban runner ... Read More

• Prices on new 4 runners

  Written by: jettaface on Apr 26, 2008 6:36:29 AM

  He did get a good deal. I am in Florida and do not want a 4x4. Online Fitz's seems only to stock those. Could be wrong. I have waited since 9/28/07 for a 2008 Limited in Barcelona Red Metallic, but seems Toyota will not produce that color for some reason. The other out there is Salsa Red Pearl and I dont care for that one. Sooo, I finally settled for Titanium ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Transmission Problems

• New 4Runner Auto Transmissions

  Written by: steve_sf on Apr 25, 2008 4:58:06 PM

  I am looking to buy a 2008 4Runner 6cyl. My previous 1995 4Runner 4cyl just passed 380,000 and despite taking great care of it, is not worth any more major repairs. (My connector rod is expected to fail soon.) I have previously owned 4 other Toyota trucks or SUVs. Needless to say, I am a dedicated Toyota fan. My problem is that the newer models are only available in auto transmission, ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Lease Questions

• 2008 4Runner Limited

  Written by: rjohnson1987 on Apr 16, 2008 5:36:59 PM

  Where can I find the residual values and money factors for leases through Toyota Financial? Including any exta incentive through the Encore program. I'm looking at a 4Runner Limited V8 with MSRP of $43494. Dealer has offered $38413 including rebate. I want a 36 month lease with 15K miles per year.

Toyota 4WD systems explained

• Re: "08 Sequoia H4F mode vs H4L mode. [wwest]

  Written by: hdfatboy on Apr 4, 2008 4:40:08 PM

  "You might want to have a more thorough looksee at the 2008 Sequoia "Vehicle Inquiry Report" you posted at Carspace." What on earth on you talking about? I've never made a post in the "Vehicle Inquiry Report". "It quite clearly states that your Sequoia has: A-TRAC" When did I ever say the Sequoia didn't have A-TRAC? It definitely has A-TRAC. As does the LC and LX570. A-TRAC is entirely compatibale and ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• Re: 2008 4Runner [wrj1]

  Written by: jfritsch on Mar 30, 2008 6:30:32 AM

  Leases are easiest. Get 10+ bids end of month on the vehicle you want via toyota website. 15000 mile lease , let them know you are getting 10-20 bids. The more flexible in options you are the better. Regardless of residual, money factor (cap cost) sale price you are basing it on lowest monthly payment with tax with 0 or 200 down. An extra 9000 miles over the lease term should ... Read More

• 2008 4Runner Ltd with NAV & DVD

  Written by: 05rubisahara on Nov 6, 2007 6:23:04 PM

  I suppose I must be the only one on the East coast that wants a Limited with NAV and rear DVD for grandson to watch. Whenever I do a search for the above, no dealer has one. As a matter of fact, according to Toyota's website, both NAV and DVD are available on the Limited but if you use the "build your Toyota" option, nowhere does it even show the DVD ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner Lease Questions

• 2008 Toyota 4Runner V6 4WD Limited

  Written by: wrj1 on Mar 27, 2008 2:48:04 PM

  Car man, Was wondering if you might be able to advise. Am looking at a 2008 V6 Limited w/ carpet/cargo mats, JBL synthesis, Extra Value Pkg and Tow Hitch at Toyota Marin, CA, and am wondering whether the deal is good or not. Considering a 36 mo lease, 12000 miles, and nothing down. Retail Price: $36975 w/ 1880 in accessories. Dealer Price: 31909 w/ 1424 in access. (For reference: Edmunds MSRP: ... Read More

Toyota 4WD systems explained

• Re: What to do? [lpackheiser]

  Written by: nedzel on Mar 25, 2008 11:34:34 AM

  Have you read the owner's manual? In the 4Runner, the center diff is locked and unlocked by a push-button on the dash, low and to the left of the steering wheel. In the 2008 Sequoia, I believe it is to the right of the steering wheel. Look at this picture: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-toyota-sequioa-limited-4x4/686920/ See the button in the middle that has a little drawing that shows 4 wheels and an x in the ... Read More

• Re: RAV4 .vs. Subaru AWD [2toyotas]

  Written by: hdfatboy on Jan 16, 2008 7:49:30 AM

  2Toyotas, "You keep giving the wrong info, and I will keep correcting you. The VF4AM is used on the V6 4Runner and 05 - 07 Sequoia. The VF4BM is used on V8 4Runner and FJ Cruiser with a manual transmission. The 08 Sequoia uses the JF3A transfer case, and the Land Cruiser/LX570 uses the JF2A transfer case. All four have a torsen center diff., the difference being that the VF4AM and ... Read More

• Re: RAV4 .vs. Subaru AWD [2toyotas]

  Written by: hdfatboy on Jan 15, 2008 8:36:54 PM

  "In 2005 the Sequoia began using the VF4AM transfer case which was already used in the V6 4Runner since 2003. It has a torsen center differential. I get my info from techinfo.toyota.com. It will cost you 10.00 to view, or you can just trust me." Actually the VF4AM transfer case with a Torsen-C center differential is new for 2008 in the Sequoia, LC, LX570. The addition of the Torsen-C center differential ... Read More

• Re: RAV4 .vs. Subaru AWD [nedzel]

  Written by: hdfatboy on Jan 15, 2008 11:57:08 AM

  Based on the recent announcements from Toyota, the Torsen center diff has been newly added to the LX570, Land Cruiser, Sequoia and LS400h for 2008. The LX570, LC and Sequoia had (lockable) open center differentials prior to 2008. If anyone can provide a resource suggesting these vehicles had mechanical center LSDs before 2008...please share. (The only Toyota vehicle I have found information on that included a lockable center Torsen LSD prior ... Read More

• Re: RAV4 .vs. Subaru AWD [2toyotas]

  Written by: hdfatboy on Jan 15, 2008 10:45:31 AM

  2toyotas, Exactly what references did I make that were incorrect? I stated that the 4Runner had a Torsen Center differential prior to 2008. According to Toyota's press releases on the '08 Sequoia, the Torsen Center Differential was added to the Sequoia this year. I would welcome any information suggesting the Sequoia had a Torsen Ctr Differential since 2005 as I have been unable to find such information. I made no reference ... Read More

• Re: RAV4 .vs. Subaru AWD [2toyotas]

  Written by: hdfatboy on Jan 17, 2008 5:54:14 AM

  Very helpful summary. Thank you for the timeline info. Just to summarize...the Open to Torsen conversion for the center diff of these models took place in the following years: 4Runner - 2003 Sequoia - 2005 LC/LX470 - 2008 Is there any other Toyota made 4wd vehicle with a torsen ctr diff? You also shared that the Sequoia and LC/LX changed transfer cases in 2008. The Sequoia from VF4AM to a JF3A. ... Read More

• Re: RAV4 .vs. Subaru AWD [hdfatboy]

  Written by: nedzel on Jan 15, 2008 8:27:50 AM

  "The new system in the 2008 LC, Sequoia, LX570, 4Runner and LS600h uses a mechanical LSD for the center differential which is not the case in the 4wd systems of Toyota's lower priced vehicles or last year's models. This newer system does not exist on most of their older models (I think it was on the older 4Runner models)." All of the 4th generation 4Runners (from 2003 on) have a lockable ... Read More

• Re: RAV4 .vs. Subaru AWD [wwest]

  Written by: hdfatboy on Jan 16, 2008 1:52:13 PM

  "I thought the Sequoia ALWAYS had a lockable mechainical center diff'l for 4WD/4X4 mode...?? " I thought I knew the answer until 2Toyotas shared information from the "Pay for" toyota website. While the Sequoia has always had a Lockable ctr differential, I thought the addition of the Torsen LSD (in place of an open diff) was new for 2008. He shared information describing a Torsen Ctr Diff in the 2005 model. ... Read More

• Re: RAV4 .vs. Subaru AWD [kurtamaxxxguy]

  Written by: hdfatboy on Jan 14, 2008 8:03:33 AM

  It really depends which Toyota 4wd system you are referring to. The new system in the 2008 LC, Sequoia, LX570, 4Runner and LS600h uses a mechanical LSD for the center differential which is not the case in the 4wd systems of Toyota's lower priced vehicles or last year's models. This newer system does not exist on most of their older models (I think it was on the older 4Runner models). I ... Read More

Toyota 4Runner false advertising and misleading marketing

• 4runner false advertising and misleading marketing

  Written by: wyatt27 on Dec 8, 2007 8:10:55 PM

  The 4Runner was built 08/07, and purchased 10/07, the 2008 4Runner sales brochure printed 08/07 shows on the next to the last page that active headrest is one of the standard safety features. This brochure is still currently available at toyota dealers. I have a toyota 4Runner press release generated 07/07 that is almost six pages and has drawings of the active system pertaining to the 4Runner. With the sales brochure ... Read More

• Re: 4runner false advertising and misleading marketing [steve_]

  Written by: wyatt27 on Dec 4, 2007 12:26:29 PM

  Hey Steve, toyota's sales brochure, toyota's 08 4Runner press release of almost six pages, toyota's e-brochure and sale info at the dealer all show the active headrest as a standard feature. There are numerous toyota dealers advertising online that the 2008 4Runner is equiped with the active headrests. After the accident I took the back off the upper seat back, next I took the 4Runner to the dealer so it could ... Read More

• 4runner false advertising and misleading marketing

  Written by: wyatt27 on Dec 3, 2007 8:13:20 PM

  The 2008 4Runner is falsely advertised and marketed by toyota’s own sales literature, press releases and dealer websites as having an active headrest safety system as standard equipment. Regardless of trim level none of the 2008 4Runners have this feature. I discovered this after being the victim of a rear end collision with injuries. I would suggest if safety, especially rear impact safety is a major concern then look at other ... Read More

Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander vs 4-Runner 2008

• Re: Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander vs 4-Runner 2008 [autiger1994]

  Written by: denverbrian on Nov 24, 2007 12:02:03 AM

  I wouldn't consider the current Honda Pilot as it's an old style that will be replaced with a new model I think in the first half of '08 as an '09 model. If you need economy, the Honda CR-V may be a better choice. It's a new '08 design and looks pretty spiffy. The 4Runner is now a five year old design and I think the new HL beats it in ... Read More

• Re: Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander vs 4-Runner 2008 [autiger1994]

  Written by: nedzel on Nov 23, 2007 3:16:00 PM

  The pilot is significantly larger inside than the 4Runner. The new Highlander is as big inside as the 4Runner and just as heavy. NONE of the three trucks that you have mentioned is economical. Not one. If you want economy, get something smaller, lighter, and lower.

Toyota 4Runner

• Re: 4Runner redesign [ren123]

  Written by: nedzel on Oct 18, 2006 11:03:17 AM

  The current model came out in 2003, with a few minor tweaks in 2006. I'd be very surprised if it would be redesigned in 2008. Toyota's design cycle for trucks is typically quite a bit longer than the design cycle for their cars.

Toyota 4Runner Prices Paid and Buying Experience

• 2008 redesign?

  Written by: davidcw on Jan 25, 2007 9:21:30 PM

  Is Toyota redesigning the 4Runner for 2008? I'm seriously considering a salsa red pearl '07 but would rather wait if it's going to be changed.

Toyota 4WD systems explained

• Re: 4Runner Rear and Center Differentials ? [2toyotas]

  Written by: bwhaler on Dec 27, 2006 6:02:00 AM

  Hello. I have been a silent follower to these edmunds forums for some time now & decided to fianlly particiapte. My wife & I just purchased a 2007 V6 Highlander with the so-called AWD. I have a question with the 2007 Highlander AWD system. There seems to be a bit of controversy (at times combative) on how this system works. And so I was wondering if we could clear the air ... Read More

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• 2008 4Runner

  Written by: runner06 on May 18, 2006 12:14:37 PM

  Does anyone know if toyota is gonna continue production of the 4Runner after 2007. I've talked to some people and they told me that a new SUV (the Toyota Fortuner) is going to take the place of the 4Runner in the future. Does anyone know if this is true?