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Subaru Outback/Legacy Tires and Wheels
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Re: Excessive tire wear on a 2005 Legacy Outback [nornet]
I set my tires at +4 psi above Subaru specs. (On my 2000 Legacy that's 36F and 34R.) Any higher than that and I feel the rear end bounces around too much on bumpy roads. I've gone thru two sets of RE-92s and I'm on my second set of Conti Extreme Contacts and will probably go with a third set when these need replacing. I always get an alignment after new ... Read More
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Re: Excessive tire wear on a 2005 Legacy Outback [ddOutback]
You need to talk with your dealer and Subaru if your dealer is ignorant. Subaru came out with a Technical Service Bulletin some time back on the rear tire wear issue. There are new settings for rear toe-in and tire pressure. See TSB 05-36-07R.
2005 Subaru Legacy Outback 2.51i XM/Aux Input
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Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy Outback 2.51i XM/Aux Input [baddogi]
What did you do? Is there an aux in on the inside if the factory system, so I can just buy a loner cord, or do I just pay to remove the whole cover and get a new head unit? I refuse to go through fm. Thanks
High Mileage Outback-Concerns
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Re: My high mileage subie [saedave]
It is; I don't think Subaru has included weather band since the 2005 model year on the Legacy/Outback. I'm not sure when they phased it out for the Forester.
Gold Plus Extended warranty
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Gold Plus Extended Warranty Coverage
Hi all, I have a 2005 Legacy i with the extended Gold Plus Warranty and was hoping to piggyback on this forum post. I recently heard squealing from the Driver's side front wheels when driving along. Figure I need to just replace my break pads, as this hadn't been going on long. Take it to MetroWest Subaru in Natick, MA and they're telling me I should replace the rotors as well, ... Read More
Going the extra mile with Subaru and Kinney Motors Rutland VT
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Re: Going the extra mile with Subaru and Kinney Motors Rutland VT [rs6er]
Not to belittle Kinney (my dad bought several Subarus there), but the powertrain on your car was covered for 5 years or 60,000 miles. If you had less than 60k, your car was covered under the warranty anyway. Not to belittle rs6er, but the original poster clearly wrote ... In August of 2009 I purchased a used 2005 Subaru Legacy ... The mileage was in in the low 80s ... In ... Read More
legacy in snow not so great
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Snow beasts
We get winter snow in the New Mexico mountains. There are days when you can't get near our house without AWD Over the last 18 years we have had five Subies and two Audi's. A few observations: 1. Historically, BOTH manufacturers delivered most of their cars with crap tires. I almost always ended up replacing the OEM tires with better summer or all season rubber. 2. We always have one car ... Read More
2 or 300,000mile Club?
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Re: curious to hear updated comments from owners years later [gimmestdtranny]
I can't remember exactly what caused the problem, but a significant number of Subaru Flat-4s suffered "catastrophic failure" on the 2001-2004 models! The 2005-present Flat-4 is rock solid reliable...the problem was definitely addressed and doesn't affect any models after 2004! Consumer Reports reliability ratings (based on data collected from owners) fully supports this- the 2001-2004 4-cyl Legacy/Outback are rated "Much Worse Than Average" in the 'Engine- Major' reliability category. The 2005-present ... Read More
Subaru Outback/Legacy Tires and Wheels
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Is replacing all four tires necessary?
Last year, I purchased a 2005 Subaru Legacy with fewer than 30k miles on it. Anyhow, I recently realized that my back two tires are worn to the point of needing to be replaced; the two in the front are fine. After going to several tire dealers, I was told by each of them that I would need to replace all 4 tires because all tires on an AWD must be ... Read More
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Re: What all terrain tires are best for a 2005 Subaru Legacy Outback wagon? [monalea]
One thing xwesx didn't mention was load carrying capacity. You do NOT want to go down - which is what usually happens when you put on tires with a smaller overall diameter. Going down in load carrying capcity increases the risk of a load related tire failure which sometimes has tragic results. In your case, 225/60R16's are currently the most poular tire size, so you shouldn't have any trouble finding suitable ... Read More
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Re: What all terrain tires are best for a 2005 Subaru Legacy Outback wagon? [xwesx]
Thank you so much for your help. It was quite comprehensive and I appreciate you taking the time. We are looking now!
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Re: What all terrain tires are best for a 2005 Subaru Legacy Outback wagon? [somainer]
Thank you so much for your help! I will definately check into it now. It is time!
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Re: What all terrain tires are best for a 2005 Subaru Legacy Outback wagon? [monalea]
The trick with tire sizes is to know that the first number (225) is the section/tread width, and the second number (60) is the sidewall height as a ratio of the section width. So, 225*0.60 = 135mm. The second tire you listed is the same width, but the section height is 70%, or 225*.70 =157.5 mm. That's close to 7% larger (greater diameter) than the stock tire and it's going to ... Read More
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Re: What all terrain tires are best for a 2005 Subaru Legacy Outback wagon? [monalea]
Re the best tires for a 2005 Subaru Outback Wagon, I posted a question like this when we first bought out 2005 Subaru Outback Wagon about 3 + years ago. We live in Maine and have pretty hairy driving conditions. We're using the Pirelli Centurato P5 225 60R16 and have been very pleased. The key is also to ensure your daughter knows that if there's a reason to replace a tire, ... Read More
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What all terrain tires are best for a 2005 Subaru Legacy Outback wagon?
Hi there! We bought a 2005 outback wagon, and wish to know what replacement tires would be best for all terrain? Our daughter is a senior now, and will take this, her car, off to college here in Colorado! We don't want to buy separate snow tires, so just wondering what all terrain tires to buy: 225 60 R16. My husband and neighbors love the TOYO open country A/T tires, but ... Read More
All-New 2010 Legacy/Outback
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Re: 3.6R Limited 2010 Legacy [frenchguy007]
Everyone calls themselves premium. Heck, Suzuki pitches the Kizashi as a luxury performance sedan. Seriously. It doesn't even offer a V6 or a turbo. Subaru's true upscale march came in 2005-2006 and failed miserably (look at Tribeca sales). Everyone balked at the prices. Sales really took off in 2009 when the Forester arrived with value pricing (and a little de-contenting to be honest).
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Re: Forester 2.5X Premium or Outback 2.5i Premium? [xwesx]
That said, the lightness of steering is the one thing about my 2010 Forester that I do not love, but I do tolerate it. It stands in stark contrast to previous Subaru vehicles, which always had very well-balanced steering. Wes If you were my age, you'd appreciate the lighter touch. :) The return-to-center action when releasing the wheel is nice in city driving; neither my Legacy or 2005 Outback 3.0R had ... Read More
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2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium AT/CVT shifting problem and engine noise
Sorry, first time posting, thought I lost the previous message #1126 thus reposting this message. Bought brand new from dealer March 19, 2010, mileage todate: 1,700 miles. From the very beginning already noticed that when backing up and shifting from Park to Reverse, there will be a rather big jolt accompanied by a big clunking noise. This problem is more pronounced on an incline surface. When shifting to Neutral and to ... Read More
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2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium AT/CVT Shifting problem
Bought brand new from the dealer on March 19, 2010, mileage todate: 1,700 miles. From the start already noticed that when backing up and shifting from Park to Reverse, majority of the time there will be a rather big jolt accompanied with a clunking/thudding noise. The problem is more pronounced on an incline surface. When shifting to Neutral and to Drive, there will be a little clicking noises. Never had this ... Read More
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Re: 3.6R Limited 2010 Legacy [ateixeira]
Subaru's true upscale march came in 2005-2006 and failed miserably (look at Tribeca sales). Everyone balked at the prices. But some of us benefitted from the great discounts like the $5000 off of a 3.0R VDC that I got at that time. The up-market push brought me back from Audi/VW since I didn't have to sit on recycled burlap like in my 97 Legacy any more. :D And take a look ... Read More
2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Cracked Windshield
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Re: 2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Cracked Windshield [rschleicher]
A bit off topic along with with a mini rant!!! I have the 2008 OB with the heater element on the windshield, and as I mentioned in an earlier post, had a 2005 Mini Cooper that had a the oem rain sensor attached to their windshields. (and guess what...the ECU knew about the rain thing!) Now we have extra significant money and added code for the ECU for them.....Just more to ... Read More
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Re: 2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Cracked Windshield [robr2]
YEP...I am insured with The Hartford. They USUALLY cover the stone thru windshield event (crack....they will try to have it "patched" and filled using the epoxy filler method(good for small chips) .......don't go for it with a crack!! Besides, it sounds like you have a pretty good sized crack that is spreading! if your Ins. does cover it in the Comprehensive section of the policy, and should they try the filler ... Read More
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Re: 2010 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Cracked Windshield [bjoseph1]
There are lots of Chinese made windshields for about half of retail (oem) on most cars . The FIT is extremely important, (flexing) and there are companies that actually have the oem glass or can get it (there it is a company here in Reno called Triumph auto glass. They make it a point to get the proper glass IF ASKED...otherwise it's the imported stuff!!! A poorly made or poorly constructed ... Read More
2005 Subaru Legacy Outback 2.51i XM/Aux Input
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2005 Subaru Legacy Outback 2.51i XM/Aux Input
Hi There, I just bought my car yesterday and love it so far. Is there ANY way possible I can have XM radio and an aux in jack factory installed or do I have to go with aftermarket AND can I install an aftermarket system in this car being the way it is? Thanks, Baddogi
Subaru Legacy '05: Options for adding aux-in?
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Subaru Legacy '05: Options for adding aux-in?
I am looking at buying a 2005 Subaru Legacy 2.5i sedan. What are my options with regard to adding auxiliary input to use my mp3 player (non-iPod), and which option is the best/most commonly used?
All-New 2010 Legacy/Outback
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Bridgestone EL400 Replacement
These tires are atrocious on snow and ice,I fished tailed coming out of a parking lot and almost did a 180,before the vdc and steering took over. The 2010 Legacy 2.5I Limited sedan,is my 4th Subaru, and the first that behaved so badly on snow/ice.My prevoius cars were a 2000 GT Limited,2005 GT Limited and a 2008 Tribeca limited. Has anyone replaced the EL400's,or can recommend a replacement all-season tire. If ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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Re: 2005+ head gasket "new design"? [robertjames]
I have 64k on my legacy GT and I had the same thing happen. Turbo banjo bolt oil line filter screen get clogged and kills oil to the turbo... turbo then kills the engine. Subaru can't build EJ engines fast enough... one dealer in my area did 15 legacy's last year for this problem. The dealer i sent my car too had one on the lot in for the same problem. ... Read More
Accelerated Tire Wear
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Accelerated Tire Ware
Apologies if this topic was discussed in the past, but I couldn't find a direct answer to my question: I own a Subaru Legacy Outback 2005 AWD which my wife drives to work. Today it has 60K miles, but in late 2008 with only 31K miles, we had to replace the original tires. They were badly worn and uneven. The originals that came with the car were Bridgestone Potenza RE92, 225/60-16. ... Read More
All-New 2010 Legacy/Outback
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Re: Subaru Legacy, Honda CRV or Toyota Camry? [elena_l]
The CR-V is more comparable to the Forester, right around the same size, as both are a bit shorter and more upright than the Outback. Forester actually beat the CR-V in residual value, and won "Best Compact Utility Vehicle" from Automotive Lease Guide, the company that sets actual residuals for leases. Outback won for "Best Midsize Utility Vehicle" as well. Subaru also won "Best Mainstream Brand", though I think Honda wasn't ... Read More
Going the extra mile with Subaru and Kinney Motors Rutland VT
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Going the extra mile with Subaru and Kinney Motors Rutland VT
In August of 2009 I purchased a used 2005 Subaru Legacy from Kinney Motors in Rutland VT. The mileage was in in the low 80s and the car seemed great in every way. It came with a 3 month dealer warranty. Oil was changed and service procedures were followed. In January 2010, the engine started making a clicking noise. I brought the car in and they told me that in all ... Read More
LOST RING IN CENTER CONSOLE OF 2006 Subaru Outback
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Re: LOST RING IN CENTER CONSOLE OF 2006 Subaru Outback [sopranojla]
I had a 2002 Legacy and you started at the arm rest and worked your way forward to remove the center console. Hopefully someone who has a 2005-2010 model has done the same and can help you out.
Subaru Outback/Legacy Electronic & Lighting Problems
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Unable to start legacy due to faulty security
I have just spent $1100 to repair my security system after my 2005 Subaru Legacy GT, for no apparent reason, failed to start. According to Centaur Subaru, the battery was fine, but security system decided to immobilize the engine. (I live in the country, and absolutely no one attempted to steal the car). This appears to be a design/electrical fault -- not a general wear issue. I would like to know ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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Re: 2005 legacy gt limited wagon [scottinky]
I recommend going to a dealership and bringing a car seat with you to see if it will work for you. I am the proud owner of a 2005 Subaru Outback wagon. I just put in an infant car seat and honestly, there's not much room left on the side that has the infant seat. The distance that the front seat can go back was significantly limited. My wife and I ... Read More
2010 Subaru Legacy 3.6 R
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Re: 2010 Subaru Legacy 3.6 R [eps105]
I'm well aware of the power bands that Subaru has... I've had: 1988 XT6 1991 XT6 1992 SVX 1996 Impreza L converted to a Racecar w/4EAT 1994 Legacy SS Turbo converted to a Racecar 5MT 2005 Legacy GT Wagon 5MT You take this car against most of the other mid-sized cars and you get in the 285hp range POWERING ONLY 2 WHEELS, which means your power to the ground is significantly ... Read More
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Re: 2010 Subaru Legacy 3.6 R [ateixeira]
0-60 in 7.8 seconds is a bit disappointing I recall the same number from a CR test for my 2005 Outback 3.0 R VDC. I believe the weights are not very different. Strange.
All-New 2010 Legacy/Outback
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Re: Subaru navigation system -- tips, tricks, lockout override [eps105]
Elliot... you have provided some great insights while I have been researching the 2010 Outback, and I greatly appreciate your assistance! I hear your concerns with the Nav... we have spent time debating this before and is one of the major reasons that I have made the decision to purchase a 2010 Volvo V50 R Design over the 2010 Outback 3.6R. Below are a few more reasons for my decision... 1. ... Read More
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Re: The end of Subaru station wagons? [ateixeira]
I agree. If I'd known that Subaru was going to be coming out with the Legacy GT in 2005, I'd've waited a couple years instead of buying my 2003 on this very date in 2002. Nonetheless, when I think about replacing my '03, I realize how much more I like it when compared to the models available now. Maybe it was all those childhood years in Kingswood Estates and Town & ... Read More
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Re: The end of Subaru station wagons? [gjksn]
You are not alone. No hurry out and go find a cherry used 2005 Legacy GT wagon with a manual trans while there are still some left. That was the epitome of a Subaru.
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Re: Saw the new Legacy sedan at my dealer [saedave]
Your point is well taken. Again, this is all personal opinion, obviously. But the qualities that attracted me to Subaru in 1997, and kept me interested until the most recent design iteration, seem to have been pretty much lost. They used to be distinctive, if slightly odd (to some) cars. Remember when they were called the Japanese Saabs, but reliable? No more. As for not liking anything new, I respectfully disagree. ... Read More
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Re: Saw the new Legacy sedan at my dealer [ctjalsma]
Well said. I was cleaning the inside of my 2005 Outback 3.0R VDC this morning and kept reminding myself to do it more often since it certainly won't be replaced by the ugly 2010 Subaru truck. The Forester's good looks aren't quite matched by interior materials quality...thin carpet, cheap headliner, but at least the interior styling is good. Now if it had a reasonably priced bluetooth accessory it would be even ... Read More
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Saw the new Legacy sedan at my dealer
Took my 98 Legacy GT wagon to my local dealer for some service last week. In the show room was a Forester and the new Legacy sedan (don't know what trim level). I was taken aback, stunned, actually, by the Legacy. I was tempted to offer my condolences to the staff, but kept my mouth shut. My first reaction was 'homely', followed quickly by 'hideous'. I felt like patting it's head ... Read More
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Re: First year Subaru experiences [nwbear]
Any v1.0 is a risk, less so with Subaru, but that's always the case. I had a 1998 Forester, first year, and it was great over the 9 years I had it. So I did it again - and got a 2009, first year for gen 3. So far so good. The 2005 Legacy did have a not-so-great crash test score for side impacts, and then the 2006 was quickly revised ... Read More
Subaru Legacy Wagon Hesitation problem
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Re: 2006 Subaru Legacy Hesitation [bdzin1]
My 97 Legacy had the same problem. The cure (after much trouble with the dealer) was replacing the knock sensor. Needless to say, I bought my 2005 Outback 3.0R from a different dealer.
Subaru Legacy/Outback Engine Issues
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Re: Legacy 2.5 GT manual possible purchase ???s [xwesx]
3. Subaru batteries are weak. Depending on the climate, I think replacing the stock battery after two years is about right. I would replace mine much sooner to hedge my bets against being stranded somewhere when it is really cold.... That is interesting to hear. I was shocked when our 2005 Legacy battery failed after only 3 years. My Ford worked on the same battery for 9 years, when even the ... Read More
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Joe
OK, I have a 2005 Subaru Legacy GT 2.5 Limited. Great car, Lots of fun to drive. It has 54000 miles on it and for the last 5000 or so the Check engine light keeps coming on. I used the OBD reader and the code is 0304, misfire in cylinder # 4. I want to swap the coil with cylinder #2 to check if that's the problem. However, I don't know ... Read More
Subaru Outback/Legacy Buying Advice
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Re: Subaru Legacy Buying Advice needed! [matthew12]
27K is way too much. Granted the car is new, but keep in mind while "new" it is not state of the art as it might have been in 2005. Some parts, like tires have a shelf life due to age in addition to mileage. I just bought a used 2005 Subaru Legact GT limited (awesome by the way, you'll love it) with 50K miles, new brakes and clutch, pretty flawless ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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floor mats
Just bought a 2005 Subaru Legacy GT Limited 5 speed manual with 55K miles for 12K. I feel I stole it. :) Its in great shape , all records, new clutch, new brakes, new yokohomo avid tires. My only complaint is that it has no floor mats. To my shock, no dealer in my area seems to have the light beige/ivory interior floor mats for this car and say that only ... Read More
Subaru Legacy Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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2005 subaru legacy gt
i just bought a 2005 legacy gt with 50k for $10,000. the person who owned it before me had a performance clutch with a short shifter put in about 1,000 miles ago and also a performance air intake system aswell. can anyone tell me how much if any horsepower this will add to my car? and also what other cost effective things i can do to add extra horsepower to my ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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Im new to subaru's. seeking adivce!!!!!
So im intersted in buying a subaru outback. im going to look at a 2005 outback legacy tomorrow, it has low milage, i think it was 32,000 about. Basically im wondering if subaru's end up with a lot of problems later on after a fews years, or if its exspensive to have work done on them? im hoping to get adive or an opinion. im really set on getting a subaru ... Read More
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Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy and Outback [petercanston]
That wouldn't look out of place parked between an Audi and an Infiniti.
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leg, knee problems with 05-09 legacy?
For all of you who drive the 2005-09 Subaru Legacy, do you experience any leg or knee pain or problems while driving? I read that it's due to the position of the acceleration pedal(hidden behind console). I took it for a test drive but I don't think I will feel anything off one drive. I'm thinking of leasing the 09 Legacy.
Subaru Legacy/Outback Engine Issues
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Re: Newbie [newtosubaru]
don't get a Subaru. I first owned a 1993 Loyale, and it was the best car ever. It just didn't break, and then I sold it at 150K miles (14 years old). Being so happy with it, in 2005 I bought a 2000 Legacy for $6,800, it had 92K miles on it. Since then I had only cried over it.... I already described my ordeal here. On the day I sold ... Read More
Subaru Outback/Legacy Tires and Wheels
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Re: Excessive tire wear on a 2005 Legacy Outback [snowbelter]
Aw, darn. I had a link to a site that listed all the Subaru TSBs, but it is no longer valid. Bummer, that. I worked long and hard to find the thing. It is ironic, to me, that Subaru would charge for TSB access when we already spent enough flippin' money on the cars in the first place!
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Re: Excessive tire wear on a 2005 Legacy Outback [vdonovan]
Subaru issued a Technical Service Bulletin #05-36-07R in regards to their changing rear wheel alignment and increasing tire pressure because of uneven wear on rear tires when carrying a heavy load. When I load up my 07 OB I try to increase the pressure on the rear tires to the number indicated for pulling a trailer which also puts a load on your rear tires. I can't help you with the ... Read More
Ultimate AWD Sports Sedans
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Re: What else should we look at? [ateixeira]
I'd add a few others to your list - the 2009 TL-S will have SH-AWD. Also, the G35x from Infiniti. Finally, for a budget buy, check out a Subaru Legacy GT Limited, or even a spec.B model. If my choices were limited to AWD cars I would also look at the Evo MR as well as the STi. The Spec B is another excellent pick. I found a very clean 2005 ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Wagons Maintenance & Repair
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RIP 2001 Subaru Outback
This forum was a huge help to me when I was car shopping in 2005. Read up on all the models and bought the 01 Outback. Over the years, it hauled my handicapped dad, his wheelchair, my arthritic German Shepherd, countless tents & Scouts and years of memories. On Monday I was in a 4 car pileup at rush hour. Front and back damage. Would be too much to fix, so ... Read More
Outback vs. Legacy
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Turbo
I am owner of 2003 VW Passat 1.8T and 2005 Subaru Legacy GT. I see similarities between two sludge/turbo/engine issues. VW originally suggested use of oils meeting VW 502.00 specification but it was not requirement. They ended up with plenty (I guess thousands) of engines that developed sludge because even though their OCI was prescribed 5000 miles the oil was not good enough. As a remedy VW changed the wording of ... Read More
Subaru Outback/Legacy Buying Advice
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Replying to 3 posts
The new head gaskets came as a running change in MY2002. So a late 2002 model should be OK. 2003 and later also, of course. The VDC model was the H6 so it has more power (212hp vs. 165hp) and stability/traction control. I'm sure it will cost more and premium fuel is recommended for the H6. 2005 the new model arrived. For those the prices will be higher, of course. A ... Read More
Advice on Subaru Outback purchase; Outback vs. Legacy Wagon
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Re: Advice on Subaru Outback purchase; Outback vs. Legacy Wagon [mountainwalker]
I almost bought a used 2000 Outback a couple years back, but didn't because the seller backed out. However, my iwfe has a 2003 Legacy wagon, and I now have a 2005 Outback wagon. As I vaguely recall while doing my research there were headgasket issues and there was some type recall for something minor on the back end on the 2000 Outbacks.. The standard Outback is based on the Legacy ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Engine Issues
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Re: 2005 Subaru Outback Engine replacement [paisan]
I have a related question - I have a 1992 Legacy, this past winter (in northern MN) it was pretty rough and the battery went out, along w/ a mouse getting into my air filter. wouldn't start for a number of months (tried jumping it, tried engine block heater overnight followed by a jump, tried to jump on a warm day). finally when spring came and things have thawed, i was ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Wheel bearing failure
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Re: Wheel bearing failure [outdoors84102]
FYI... I just had to replace BOTH rear wheel bearings on my 2005 Outback wagon @ 32,000 miles. This is a little bit disconcerting for the mileage. Also, our family has had 3, 1998-2003 subaru's all over 80,000 miles and with no previous wheel bearing problems. :) My cousin has a legacy also without wheel bearing problems. I am really glad it was covered under warranty. I'm chalking it up to ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Wagons Maintenance & Repair
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2.5 Legacy Wagon 2.5i Burnt Rubber Smell
I have a 2005 2.5i Legacy Wagon, manual transmission with 37,000 km on it. The car works great, but in the last 6 months a strong 'burnt rubber' odour comes through the heater vents. It is most noticeable on cold mornings (below freezing), for the first 15 minutes after it is started in the morning. There is no smell when the heater is set on recirculate. There are no fluid leaks, ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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Re: off topic [jonkron]
"Sure, her's is a hybrid and quieter inside (and will continue to be as long as Subaru doesn't use door frames surrounding their windows... and based on the new Imprezas, it appears they are changing this)." Actually, the trend toward framed windows started in 2005 with the '06 B9 Tribeca, then the Impreza last year, and this year the Forester. Legacy & Outback are the only ones left w/out. Also, Subaru ... Read More
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2005+ head gasket "new design"?
I've seen in many forums that subaru apparently fixed the head gasket problem in the new generation of 2.5 H4 engines (from 2003?). Does anyone know exactly what they did to fix this? what's the new design or improvement? any website that explains this in detail? Is there any people reporting head gasket issues in a 2005 or later model? So far, I haven't notice any problem in my 2005 Legacy, ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback "Check Engine" Light Problems
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Re: CEL Horrors - 2002 Outback Base Wagon [georgejung]
On the 2005 models, you need to have an OBDII scanner that is CAN compliant. Most manufacturers switched to CAN around 2004, if I recall correctly. I am sure Mike (paisan) can clarify this. I find Haynes manuals very helpful for maintenance, even very in-depth maintenance, but I am not sure if one is available for a Subaru as new as 2005. Looking on Amazon, there is one for Legacy/Forester 200-2006. ... Read More
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Re: CEL Horrors - 2002 Outback Base Wagon [tompaine]
Just an update. I looked diligently for enough information on 'which OBD tool does it take' to evaluate my 2005 Legacy wagon (2.5i), without too much success. Seems there are multiple options, and no guarantee which would do the job, with OBDII probably covering most of the emissions questions, but some other scanners dedicated to 'most' (but not all - esp WRX etc) Subarus. My small town, local autoparts stores wouldn't ... Read More
Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions
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CEL Horrors - 2002 Subaru Outback
I posted the following to the Outback/Legacy Check Engine Light Forum. I am re-posting it here in case there is another forum that would be good for this post. Thanks. "I'll start off this post by saying that the dealer's service department that I have been using acknowledges that they have never seen a series of Check Engine Light (CEL) problems like the ones they have seen with my vehicle. I'm ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback "Check Engine" Light Problems
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Boy, am I glad to see this thread....
I happen to have a 2005 Legacy wagon, same as one of the posters here - 19,000 miles on the 2.5 engine. The CEL came on, followed by the blinking cruise. I bought my car used (do I still have the power train warranty, or do I 'lose' that since it's used, not through a dealer?). I tried having the OBD II scanner, but maybe the shops' wasn't updated; no codes ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Wagons Maintenance & Repair
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Re: 2006 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Limited Spark Plug Replacement [paisan]
I can not find the gap information for NKG FR5AP-11 spark plugs for my 2005 Outback. Help!
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Re: need free 2005 subaru legacy service manual [riotklan]
subaru.com you can download the PDFs for a fee. -mike
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need free 2005 subaru legacy service manual
I have searched everywhere for a free 2005 subaru legacy service manual but its like looking for a needle in a haystack could someone please tell me where to get one or email it riotklan@gmail.com thanks
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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Ignition problems
I have an Subaru 2005 Legacy outback 2.5i- llbean. When trying to start the car I get a clicking noise and the car won't turn over. Saw EU 015957 on the dashboard, probably an error/problem code. Any ideas on what is going on?
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Re: Purchase extended warranty? [rebel71]
It depends on what you think... I bought my 2005 Subaru Outback used with 8800 miles on it in Oct of 2006. At the time, there was only 1 year remaining on the factory warranty (it was purchased new in 10/04, leaving the warranty to expire 10/07). So to be safe, I purchased the 6 year/60k Subaru Added Security plan. The $800+ was financed into my car payments. When we bought ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Accessories and Modifications
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Re: I bought an 05 Legacy 2.5 [paisan]
Thanks Mike, The 2005 model year includes the 2.5l Subaru Boxer engine with similar displacements as the LGT. The GT has a dual overhead cam while the base & limited's have a single overhead cam. Otherwise, the engines are the same. I'd like to start with wheels and tires but I don't know what the limits are for size. When I've done any investigating on the subject I find that 17" ... Read More
Subaru Outback/Legacy Electronic & Lighting Problems
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Re: 2005 Outback Power Window Problems [seanu]
On my 2000 Legacy, all you could do was to replace switch cluster. There was no easy or simple way to take the cluster apart. You might find the part at 1stsubaruparts.com. They are a dealer in Washington state. I call to confirm the online prices and send Subaru bucks to pay for the parts. Definitely less expensive than my local dealers. Jim
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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Re: Water coming in front passenger seat up underneath dash. [beanboy]
Khallock, Almost guarantee it is the evaporator drain line for the AC. A known issue with the 2005+ Legacy model, multiple folks have had the trouble, usually after a fall/spring cycle of parking outdoors. How close are trees/shrubs to the car where you park? Debris builds up in the line and clogs, letting water overflow and drip into the passenger footwell. Water should be coming from the top left corner of ... Read More
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Replaced my Outback
Yesterday, I traded-in my 2003 Outback for an 2008. I'm taken back by the improvement in refinement and smoothness of my new car; it is very different! Whereas the 03 had a mechanical and tactile feel, the 08 drives more like a luxury car. The engine spools up so smoothly, it's hard to believe it's the "same" 2.5 liter. The clutch pedal is feather-lite and engagement is smooth, almost silky. And, ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Wagons Maintenance & Repair
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Re: A/C leaking into passenger floor on 2005 Outback wagon [khallock]
I have a 2005 Outback and a 2006 Legacy. Have never seen water dripping before. It also sounds like an uncommon problem- unique to your car. I would take the car to a different dealership. I bet each time you took the car in, you probably got the same tech. The same tech probably did the same job, each and every time. Make sure you explain to the new dealership your ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback
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Have it reupholstered
I have a 2005 Outback Limited. If I had sat in the car any longer than the 15 minute test drive I gave it, I probably would not ... make that NO WAY, would I have purchased the car. After almost 3 years, the seat is still as uncomfortable to sit in after a short distance. The bolsters are too hard and the space between them too narrow where your butt ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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Re: Air Conditioning [gmwalters]
I owned a 2005 Honda CR-V which I traded in for a 2005 Subaru Outback LLBean 3.0. My wife drives a 2006 Legacy 2.5i. I agree that the CR-V's air conditioner was much cooler and was able to get the car really cold, really fast. However, I've had no problems with either Subaru's air conditioner (The 2.5i has the standard AC, the 3.0 has the temperature control). It's not as strong, ... Read More
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Re: moaning and groaning sound [chetlanin]
I had almost the same problem a few days ago. The axle got louder at around 25-35 mph. The following post really helped me out. I kept backing up in a very quiet neighborhood until I heard something getting out. I sometimes drove on roads where construction was going on. Maybe my Outback picked up some stone or wood debris there. --------------------------------------------- kmclean, "Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+" #9576, 30 Nov 2006 12:25 ... Read More
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as far as I can tell
My 2005 Subaru Legacy GT calls for 7500 OCI for normal and 3750 for severe duty. I think I recall that H6 required first oil change at 5K but my memory might not be that good. Krzys PS I think most dealers and quick oil change places would love to have you back at 3K or sooner but manufacturers are not falling for this and are increasing OCIs lately.
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Re: 2005 LGT vs. 2006 LGT [kronogoose]
Here's the '06 Legacy page for the site juice listed above. It lists the changes over the '05 models. http://www.cars101.com/subaru/legacy/legacy2006.html#overview One biggie not listed: Subaru changed the internal structure of the doors (not sure how, maybe more crossmembers?) to ace the side impact crash tests. The '05 did well on all other tests, but didn't get the best available rating on the side impact, so Subaru refined it and paid to ... Read More
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Re: Subaru Legacy and Legacy GT reliability versus Impreza WRX [ateixeira]
If you're gonna tow, in my experience the Outback and Forester are pre-wired with a harness, and the Legacy isn't. That may not be a big deal to you, but you won't have to splice any wires. For my '98 Forester, it was plug-n-play for the trailer wiring on the OE hitch. They cost more but it was worth it for that reason alone. The Legacy (at least the 2005 wagon) ... Read More
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Re: Subaru Legacy and Legacy GT reliability versus Impreza WRX [paulotterst
I think all of them fit your bill. I think the anecdotal evidence on reliability also peaks with new models. The recent Legacy platform was released as a 2005 model. The Impreza line will have theirs next year. I believe the Car and Driver experience is not indicative of most experiences. I recall Automobile magazine having nothing but positive things to say about their Four Seasons test of an LGT wagon. ... Read More
Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions
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Re: Subaru forester (2006) Catalytic Converters [gaucho1]
I am the same problem. I have a 2005 legacy. The Check engine light came on two nights ago and the cruise light starting blinking. I am taking it to the Subaru dealer tomorrow for an oil change so I will have them look at it. I am guessing it is electrical. I bought the car in March of 2006. Recently I noticed two things: - Every once in while the ... Read More
2007 Outbacks
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Re: another question [xwesx]
The Outback/Legacy head gasket problem appears to be far more widespread than Subaru is willing to admit. My former 2003 Outback needed a gasket replacement at 28K miles. She had Subaru approved coolant from the start, therefore, it was not a coolant problem as Subaru often states. Even after a gasket was replaced, I could hear a sound of gushing coolant upon engine start-up. Obviously, the new gasket was also leaking ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Transmission Problems
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2005 legacy outback door lock problem
from the day we purchased our wagon, the doors randomly lock on their own, sometimes leaving keys inside or even in the ignition. subaru service turned the lock-out prevention from on to off but the problem has continued. anyone else have this problem or a solution? thanks.
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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Re: Legacy GT questions [robbieg]
Hey - I have a 2005 Legacy 2.5i. It has been to the dealer whom I bought it from three times to no avail, and the fourth time to a different Subaru dealer worked...the rattle was from a broken clip in the drivers side vent. But it was amazing how three trips to a Subaru dealership, and they couldn't find it - each time making up a new "yeah, we got ... Read More
Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread
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Re: ESC Video [kdshapiro]
Thanks, kdshapiro, I thought that was a really interesting video. A few notes. For touting the many advantages of Subaru products, the organization would do well to extend VDC to the entire line of Legacy/OB products. In Consumer Reports test of the 2.5GT-L, they noted a tendency for excessive tailwag (oversteer) in advoidance manuvers. I can attest to this as my father, who exited a highway off-ramp on the Garden State ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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Re: Replacement Tires [meliaant]
Hey folks, on my 2005 Legacy 2.5i, the OEM tires are pretty crappy Bridgestone Potenza RE92's...anyone have any suggestions for the best replacement for someone in New England that is looking for a sweet all-season? I know the Yokohama AVID is nice, and Toyo Proxes TPT is swell, as well, anyone mind throwing their two cents in? Thanks! I'm convinced there's no such thing. We now use dedicated snows, even on ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Wagons Maintenance & Repair
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Re: 06 Outback Gearbox noise [gogeter]
Perhaps this is it... With most Subarus with automatic transmission, there is no button to push in order to release the gear switch. (Normally, you push in the button, then move the handle to the desired gear- park, reverse, neutral, etc.) The clicking noise you hear is the release/lock for the gear box. So, if you're in drive and going 20mph, you can't hit the handle to put the car in ... Read More
Subaru Outback/Legacy Buying Advice
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Subaru Legacy Buying Advice needed!
I'm looking at a brand new 2005 legacy GT that never sold off the lot. The dealer will make me a deal at $27k. When I run a KBB report the suggested retail is ~21k. I have to run the car as used of course so I'm not getting a clear picture. What do the fine people of this form think? KBB Search ====================== Engine: 4-Cyl. 2.5L Turbo Transmission: Automatic Drivetrain: ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Wagons Maintenance & Repair
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Re: Outback First Oil Change [nerd]
From the 2005 Legacy/Outback service manual, section/page PM-8, the torque spec is 33 ft-lb (44 N-m in metric). Of all the cars I've had, this is one of the easiest for oil & filter change. By the way, I find it very odd that a Subaru service advisor wouldn't know this. An afterthought: If you want, I can email the oil service pages (.pdf) to you; just make your email visible. ... Read More
Subaru Legacy Lease Questions
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Re: Another 2005 Lease question/Legacy GT Limited Wagon [gluz]
It's not a waste at all, gluz. I'm happy to help. If you were to lease a 2006 Subaru Legacy Limited GT Wagon through its captive finance company right now for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00200 and 49%, respectively. When negotiating your lease on this car, keep in mind that Subaru is providing its dealers with up ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback Accessories and Modifications
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Re: Legactgt.com [dsattler]
Thanks, unfortunately it does not look like it will work on a Forrester. Here is clip from first post in the above referenced sticky post from the creator of the mod: Will this work on other Subaru's? YES. This will work on WRX/Impreza/Outback Sports. As far as I know, it will not work in Bajas, Forester or Tribeca's. It will not work for any years but 2005 & 2006. This mod ... Read More
Outback VDC vs. XC V0
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IIHS Top 10
Keep in mind the Legacy made the IIHS Gold Top 10 list, something not a single Volvo managed to do. The Legacy is quite safe. I'm not saying the Volvo isn't, but this certainly is not a disadvantage for the Subaru: http://www.iihs.org/news/2005/iihs_news_120405.pdf Below is a pic of a Forester and a Volvo that hit head-on, the Subaru actually fared a bit better, but both passenger compartments were completely intact. The Subaru ... Read More
Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+
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Re: C&D Long Term Test [ateixeira]
My 2005 Legacy GT Limited sedan is now 13 months old and has 25k on the odometer. The only problems to date include a burnt out headlamp at 18k, and the poorly designed Automatic Climate Control. I did find that the ACC worked flawlessly all winter long. Once I set the temp on AUTO, it seemed to maintain a constant temperature. However, starting my second summer with the A/C is another ... Read More
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