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My concern now, with the Accord for instance, is this is Honda's first foray in to CVTs and also their first try with DI engines. Kind of a risky gamble, a v1.0 of both the engine and trans. Subaru's FB25 was a big improvement, but their CVT is also kinda new, so another risk. The EJ was an open deck design and has a lot of passages through the gaskets. It ... Read More
True. I can't refute your argument. Hondas did have a reputation for transmission problems. I myself drove a Honda Odissey van whose ultimate demise was a slipping transmission. It cost 2K to fix it. Engines and transmissions are sacred. I see evidence that Honda addressed its transmission problems. Two brothers and my mother drive Honda accords, two with high mileage. No transmission issues. With Subarus, the story is different. I don't ... Read More
A Honda transmission would likely not have lasted 135k miles. You might be on the 3rd trans by then. Every brand has its achilles heel. For fun, though, let's Google: subaru head gasket = 2.89 million hits honda head gasket = 4.81 million hits honda transmission problem = 6.93 million hits honda a/c problem = 105 million hits (had to double check that one). Hondas are perfect, totally fault-free. Go for ... Read More
Haha. Welcome to the Subaru brand. You have just discovered the most important thing you need to know about Subaru engines: they suffer from severe head gasket issues. Here is a cute experiment for you. Google, oh, "Honda head gasket". Note the search results. Now google "Subaru head gasket". Oh the horror! I know it's difficult, but pay close attention to the personal accounts of leaking head gaskets! But wait - ... Read More
I am looking to buy a 2003 Legacy L with standard trans. The car only has 68000 miles on it and the price seemed to be right, around $6750 from an apparently reliable private party. But when we took it in to the dealer for inspection it turned out that there is a problem with the head. Not sure if there was also a leak or if that is related to ... Read More
I am looking to buy a 2003 Legacy L with standard trans. The car only has 68000 miles on it and the price seemed to be right, around $6500 from a reliable private party. But when we took it in to the dealer for inspection it turned out that there is a problem with the head. Not sure if there was also a leak or if that is related to the ... Read More
You didn't mention what year your car was, but I assume it is an early decade model also? Early Outbacks of this body series (2000, 2001 & very early 2002) had undersized brakes given the weight of the vehicle, and didn't stop as well as later cars. I drove a 2003 back to back with my 'first build 2002', and the difference was night & day. After that I upgrades with ... Read More
I just got this email from my dealership: Did you know that Subaru recommends that the timing belt on your 2003 LEGACY be changed every 7 years or up to 105,000 miles? Our records indicate that your vehicle is due for this service. I've heard a lot about the importance of replacing the thing at 105,000 miles but never the part about 105,000 miles OR SEVEN YEARS. My 2003 Legacy wagon ... Read More
I have a 2003 Subaru Legacy with 167k miles. It just starting making a grinding noise on the Front drivers side wheel when stopping. I can break with out the noise, it is only when I come to a complete stop that the noise starts. Any ideas?
I can't remember exactly what caused the problem, but a significant number of Subaru Flat-4s suffered "catastrophic failure" on the 2001-2004 models! The 2005-present Flat-4 is rock solid reliable...the problem was definitely addressed and doesn't affect any models after 2004! Consumer Reports reliability ratings (based on data collected from owners) fully supports this- the 2001-2004 4-cyl Legacy/Outback are rated "Much Worse Than Average" in the 'Engine- Major' reliability category. The 2005-present ... Read More
For my 2003 Legacy Wagon SE, I got the Subaru Gold 7 year warranty. It covered what would have been a very expensive moon roof repair, and just weeks or days before it expired, it covered replacement of the center differential. Since I wouldn't know a differential from a toaster, it might have been the rear differential (if there is one). At any rate, that was pretty expensive, and it was ... Read More
I don't know. I paid 24,000 for my Impala in 1996 and paid 20,000 for my Outback sport in 2003. Can't say price is that much different. Age, yes, I'm talking about a 14 year old car verses a 7 year old car and the Impala wins hands down, in the normal wear and tear department. And the Impala was been driven a whole lot harder in it's early years, compared ... Read More
I experienced similar sounds about a year ago on my 2003 Legacy wagon. It was mostly when the steering wheel was cranked all the way one way or the other. There might've been a hopping sensation on mine as well. My dealer replaced the center or rear (can't remember which one without my records) differential. It was still under a Subaru Gold Warranty that had previously covered a very expensive sun/moon ... Read More
I was actually talking about this with my brother yesterday, and it amazes us how quickly my 2003 Legacy wagon cools down. Last week, here in Minneapolis, it got so hot one day that my rear view mirror came off the inside of the windshield. It was about 95 or so, and the dew point was about 75 -- tropical. Even then, within 30 seconds, I'm getting cool air, and within ... Read More
It was hot and steamy enough yesterday in Minneapolis that when I went out to my car after work, the mirror had melted, or come unglued, from the inside of my windshield. Surprised me. Now, a question. 2003 Legacy wagon. 55,000 miles. Let's say I need to merge somewhere or get out the way of something quickly. In second gear, I might be going 30 mph (I usually shift up to ... Read More
There are lots of Chinese made windshields for about half of retail (oem) on most cars . The FIT is extremely important, (flexing) and there are companies that actually have the oem glass or can get it (there it is a company here in Reno called Triumph auto glass. They make it a point to get the proper glass IF ASKED...otherwise it's the imported stuff!!! A poorly made or poorly constructed ... Read More
My 2003 Baja (manual trans), at approx 85,000 miles, sustained a failure of the viscous clutch (at the center diff)...transmission was fine...NOT wheel bearings, but was told nevertheless that this should not happen with so few miles on vehicle. Symptoms were chunking noise when turning steering wheel hard (as in parking), particularly after vehicle had warmed up thoroughly.
Can anyone help me out with a a/c recharge question? I have a 2003 Subaru Legacy and have had front end damage repaired. Apparently the shop did not bother to put the a/c freon capacity sticker back on the new front end parts. I am doing an a/c recharge (my dad is an hvac tech) and don't know the freon capacity for the a/c system. How much freon needs to be ... Read More
Doubtful. Look at Consumer Reports. Some Subarus show dramatic improvements for 2003, others for 2004/5. By '05 all are rated highly. Our family has been lucky, I guess. Dad has an '01 Outback, sis has an '03 Forester, bro has an '04 Legacy. Cousin had a 99 Outback for a while. We had a 98 Forester for 9 years, and an 02 Legacy for 7 years, plus our new 09 Forester. ... Read More
I agree. If I'd known that Subaru was going to be coming out with the Legacy GT in 2005, I'd've waited a couple years instead of buying my 2003 on this very date in 2002. Nonetheless, when I think about replacing my '03, I realize how much more I like it when compared to the models available now. Maybe it was all those childhood years in Kingswood Estates and Town & ... Read More
Is there anybody else out there who thinks it's regrettable that Subaru has essentially abandoned station wagons? I love my 2003 Legacy wagon and chose Subaru specifically because it was a station wagon and had AWD. Wagons have always seemed like one of the backbones of Subaru's success -- similar to Volvo. I had a 2009 Outback recently while my car was being serviced, and it just didn't seem to have ... Read More
Yeah, the gold warranty, if you can get a good price on it, seems to be the sweet spot as far as Subaru extended warranties go. If one major thing happens, it can pay for itself. It is great that you didn't have to use yours more than once, but nobody has a crystal ball.... :D Did you have your mechanic check the head gaskets closely to make sure there are ... Read More
I bought the Subaru Gold extended warranty for my 2003 Legacy wagon which expires in less than a month. Yesterday, I got the car back from the dealer after replacing the center viscous coupling/differential (I'm not mechanical), and the cost of the repair just about (but not quite) paid for the extended warranty. I think it's the only time I've ever used the extended warranty. Juice is probably right, though, so ... Read More
Please do keep us posted if you find a good deal on that Subaru Gold policy.
Sweet, score one for Subaru Gold. I had one on my 02 and may still get one for my 09.
Thanks Mr. Shiftright. I got the car back last night, and the service advisor at Bloomington Subaru told me they had replaced that viscous coupler (differential?) and that my Subaru Gold warranty had paid for everything and saved me $1300 or so, meaning it almost paid for itself. It was just slightly less than your estimate, so thank you again for the good information. Much appreciated. I'll have to give them ... Read More
Thank you so much for your reply. Sounds expensive. I assume the $690 is for the transmission teardown, but it's sounding like a much more expensive proposition than just that. Any idea of what range of prices might be reasonably expected for a repair like this? The spoiled brat part of me thinks, "Woo hoo, time to trade in for a new one while this one is still worth something." The ... Read More
Basically it sounds like your viscous coupling in the differential might be the problem. When a car turns, the two front wheels enter the turn at different speeds, so the coupling has to slip to allow this. If it holds both axles tight, you'll get this binding, since the two front wheels cannot possibly turn at the same speed and be "locked" while in a turn. Subaru AWD systems are something ... Read More
I took my car in Saturday for an oil change and also because I was noticing that the front wheels were "binding up" when I had the steering wheel at full lock for maneuvers like parking. The service people noticed it too and said they'd have to tear down the (manual) transmission ($690 but 98% sure it's covered by the last month of my Subaru Gold extended warranty) to get at ... Read More
I have a 2003 outback wagon with 120,000 miles. The engine was replaced 2 months ago due to a failed connecting rod bearing. Now 2 months later the transmission has failed. Does anyone have experience with trans failures as a result of engine replacement? I will see the disassembled trans tomorrow so I will have a better feel for what failed. I was only told a shaft by the dealer.
First of all, let me state that we just bought our fifth Subaru. We only still have four of the five, because the 2003 Outback was lost in an underground garage flood.(We now have two Outbacks and two Impreza Sports). All have run exceptionally well, in my humble opinion. They have been safe cars for my children. I have owned two Toyotas and two Hondas in my 38 years of driving ... Read More
Nissans has been using CVT"s starting 2003 (or 2002) model. There were tranny problems reported, more back few years ago. I looked at Altimas and CVT was what turned me away as far as reliability. Not much towing capacity neither. They even tell you not to drive it on the highway during the first weeks. Once you wear out a groove in the pulleys, you are done. No replacement parts with ... Read More
What model year was the donor car for that engine? Both are pre-2002, when Subaru finally sorted out the gaskets. I think I'd search for a higher mileage 2002 Outback Sport, or a 2003+ Legacy/Outback. 2003 and later Imprezas have the sturdier wheel bearings as well.
I wouldn't worry about the antenna as much as head gaskets. 2.2 on the Legacy through 99 has less problems than the DOHC 2.5 on the 97+ Outback. If you don't need ground clearance, my favorite 90's Subaru is the 99 Legacy 30th Anniversary Wagon. It has sunroof and some extras. Last year for the 2.2 in the Legacy. The last year for the 2.2 in the Outback was 97, with ... Read More
HI Chuck, DId you edit this message? I thought it expressed a negative response and requested additional? Well , here are the details-- YES, cash for my car and NO i would keep it and put it toward the payments. Well here is the info supplied from a second dealer: MSRP: 25,903 SUBARU LEGACY SE (NOT LTD) SALES PRICE: 21.575 (includes leather seats - heated added in by dealer) INCLUDED ALL ... Read More
Dear chuck68516, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!!! I was on my way to the dealer, stopped home for the title and thankfully checked my email. I had my father with me and we were so thankful for your guidance. I did not go through with the deal. After sharing with him your findings, the dealer offered me: 2009 Legacy Special Ed (instead of the LTD) $5000.00 cash for my car ... Read More
I'm confused. From reading this forum, I'd come to understand that this head gasket problem had been remedied beginning with the 2003 model year. Now, it sounds as though it persists beyond 2003. I'm concerned, because I have a 2003 Legacy wagon with 46K-47K miles. Can't decide if I should keep it beyond the expiration of my Subaru Gold 7 year extended warranty later this year or replace the car before ... Read More
I thought I had read somewhere (pre-senility keeps me from remembering where) that the next generation Legacy/Outback would be larger. However, now that I've seen some photos and perused other information, it doesn't seem accurate. The car doesn't look a whole bunch different in size or overall design. I also didn't think current generation didn't look remarkably different from the previous generation which includes my 2003 Legacy wagon. It's evolving, yes, ... Read More
I just bought a 2003 subaru legacy sedan and there was a bit of a noise when I bought it, but i just thought this was the norm for subaru...now with the cold, it has been worse, but does not go seem to go away. There also seems to be a very quite whine now as well. Anyone any ideas what the problem could be?
Charliebob, I have a 2003. Bought it new. I think this knock you describe is inherient to the engine. Mine sounds like a diesel in the winter when cold. Once the engine warms, it goes away. Now, after its warm, if I run 87 octane in it, the valves ping when the auto tranny is lugging the engine. If I run 91 or 93 octane, I don't get the valve ping. ... Read More
I am owner of 2003 VW Passat 1.8T and 2005 Subaru Legacy GT. I see similarities between two sludge/turbo/engine issues. VW originally suggested use of oils meeting VW 502.00 specification but it was not requirement. They ended up with plenty (I guess thousands) of engines that developed sludge because even though their OCI was prescribed 5000 miles the oil was not good enough. As a remedy VW changed the wording of ... Read More
The new head gaskets came as a running change in MY2002. So a late 2002 model should be OK. 2003 and later also, of course. The VDC model was the H6 so it has more power (212hp vs. 165hp) and stability/traction control. I'm sure it will cost more and premium fuel is recommended for the H6. 2005 the new model arrived. For those the prices will be higher, of course. A ... Read More
I almost bought a used 2000 Outback a couple years back, but didn't because the seller backed out. However, my iwfe has a 2003 Legacy wagon, and I now have a 2005 Outback wagon. As I vaguely recall while doing my research there were headgasket issues and there was some type recall for something minor on the back end on the 2000 Outbacks.. The standard Outback is based on the Legacy ... Read More
FYI... I just had to replace BOTH rear wheel bearings on my 2005 Outback wagon @ 32,000 miles. This is a little bit disconcerting for the mileage. Also, our family has had 3, 1998-2003 subaru's all over 80,000 miles and with no previous wheel bearing problems. :) My cousin has a legacy also without wheel bearing problems. I am really glad it was covered under warranty. I'm chalking it up to ... Read More
I will preface my comment with a "We are all shaped differently". Any how, my 98 Forester had firm, supportive seats that I liked a lot. Our 2002 Legacy's seats are too soft, though, and not well shaped. I much prefered our 98 Forester's seats. Try them out, is all. The Forester seats changed for model year 2003, and probably again now for the 2009 redesign.
I've seen in many forums that subaru apparently fixed the head gasket problem in the new generation of 2.5 H4 engines (from 2003?). Does anyone know exactly what they did to fix this? what's the new design or improvement? any website that explains this in detail? Is there any people reporting head gasket issues in a 2005 or later model? So far, I haven't notice any problem in my 2005 Legacy, ... Read More
It was common in 1998-2002 Foresters, and on some Imprezas, up to 2001 I think. Ironically the fix was to upgrade to the Legacy's design, so we even had the part numbers handy for Forester/Impreza owners. I haven't seen too many post 2003 Subarus with the problem, so let's hope it's an anomaly.
Subaru's numbers should improve with JD Power soon. 2002 was the last year they had head gasket issues. I think the Dependability study looks at 5 year old models, so once they start looking at 2003s I bet you'll see significant improvement there. Then again, VW phased out the 1.8T, so the ignition coil failures will eventually disappear from those studies as well.
Ok, I'm a long time driver/owner of Subaru products, and I've been anxiously awaiting the R Limited after seeing pictures on the Japanese Subaru site for a few years. So, I took my 2003 Legacy in for its first brake job, rear pads at 53k miles, and the dealer had a black one on the lot. That is a great looking car. So, as I continued to stare at it while ... Read More
Yesterday, I traded-in my 2003 Outback for an 2008. I'm taken back by the improvement in refinement and smoothness of my new car; it is very different! Whereas the 03 had a mechanical and tactile feel, the 08 drives more like a luxury car. The engine spools up so smoothly, it's hard to believe it's the "same" 2.5 liter. The clutch pedal is feather-lite and engagement is smooth, almost silky. And, ... Read More
I have to agree with this post. For the first few years of ownership, I've not driven my Legacy for over an hour at most. Recently, I've been making several 4 hour trips. Wow, I'm hating the seats now. It is hard and just uncomfortable for a long trip. My passengers have said the same. BTW, I'm 5'8" and 150lbs. I remember the Subaru seats of late 80's, now those were ... Read More
On a Windstar (which may eat up tires more than a Subaru because of its weight) I have put on almost 40K in all year driving with WRs and 2 tires were down to the 4mm tread markings, the other 2 still show the 6mm marks (they have "engraved" into the tread the depth in mm -4,6,8). On my Legacy with the NRW (WRs predecessor) as a winter only tire I ... Read More
Subaru and TireRack recommend replacing the OEM Bridgestone Turanza RE92s on our 2003 Legacy Wagon with other high performance tires. Since the fastest we've ever driven the car is 80 mph, is it worthwhile to consider a T rated tire given the price differentials compared to some of the better H rated tires?
I bought the tweeters from Subaru and put in my 2003 Legacy. It was prewired, so, took about 15 mins for installation. I also purchased the subwoofer from Subaru and installed that. Since it required to be plugged into the dash unit, it took a little longer to install. I purchased some speakers from Crutchfield and replaced all four of them in the doors. The factory speakers are paper/fiber cones and ... Read More
I had a piston slap problem on my 2003 Legacy, but only in cold weather (below 30 F) and the noise went away when the engine warmed up. I had my Subaru dealer fix it. They pulled apart the engine and replaced 2 pistoms with redesigned parts. No more piston slap. So, I think you are safe. My son's 96 Lumina has had piston slap its whole life (105,000 miles), so ... Read More
Yeah, I am certainly not going to comment on the pads/rotors ( :D ), but for the belts, replace them. With that mileage and age, you are going to end up with a broken belt in the not-so-distant future. If you are not opposed to replacing them yourself, it is an inexpensive and simple job. I typically replace mine every 3rd year, which is about 50-60K miles. I never had one ... Read More
Well basically, when you resurface your rotors you take away material to make them smooth, this will decrease their lifespan. So getting only 1/3 more life out of them is not uncommon. For the most part Front rotors last about 30-60k and rears about 50-80k. I never suggest resurfacing them. Pads usually last 20-40k on the Front and 40-80k on the rears. It all depends on your driving style, traffic, etc. ... Read More
I have a 03 legacy sedan, with 56k. I had the front brake pads done at 32500 and was told that the rear brake pads should last me twice as long. I took my car in about 2 weeks ago with 56k and I had to have both the front and rear brake pads and rotors replaced. I was also told that when I had the front brakes done at 32500 ... Read More
The Outback/Legacy head gasket problem appears to be far more widespread than Subaru is willing to admit. My former 2003 Outback needed a gasket replacement at 28K miles. She had Subaru approved coolant from the start, therefore, it was not a coolant problem as Subaru often states. Even after a gasket was replaced, I could hear a sound of gushing coolant upon engine start-up. Obviously, the new gasket was also leaking ... Read More
Indeed, but did they only replace the one gasket? I think I would have preferred both be replaced if Subaru would have been willing to do it under warranty. Seems a moderate risk though if the one failed.
Picked up my Legacy from the dealer. I was shocked to have the car back and ready 24 hours after dropping it off. They didn't have to pull the engine. They replaced the head gasket and all associated gaskets, changed the oil and oil filter, refilled the antifreeze, replaced the water pump and gaskets. My only cost was the rental. When I asked if it was common and if it would ... Read More
I've found info, and even the scanned pdf docuement from Subaru on the 2000-2002 Customer Service Initiative in which owners were advised to take it in for an 'additive' to be put in the antifreeze and get a 100,000 mile warranty on the cooling system. Just google it. I took my car and left it at the dealer. Since there is no rental car/loaner provision on Subaru's after 36,000 miles, I ... Read More
My Legacy has 42,000 miles on it. Within the past two weeks I too have noticed coolant odor. Since the car was new, 3 years ago, the coolant level has decreased from the full line to the add line. So, I added that small amount to bring it up. I had a mechanic to check for leaks when the oil was changed last week, and he says he saw nothing. Tonight, ... Read More
So my parents have a 2000 Subaru Legacy Outback Station Wagon. They liked it quite a bit, but had big problems starting around 2002. Lots of oil leaks, blown head gaskets. There was a recall involving some coolant additive to keep the coolant from degrading engine seals I think. Looks like this recall was administered too late to save our car’s engine, or our vehicle was a lemon. We're actually going ... Read More
Perhaps this is it... With most Subarus with automatic transmission, there is no button to push in order to release the gear switch. (Normally, you push in the button, then move the handle to the desired gear- park, reverse, neutral, etc.) The clicking noise you hear is the release/lock for the gear box. So, if you're in drive and going 20mph, you can't hit the handle to put the car in ... Read More
Every manual transmission Subaru produced since 2003 except for the STi (oh, and I guess the '07 spec.B) has a clutch force limiting device. Basically it is a valve on the clutch cylinder that prevents you from dumping the clutch. To get around that, you have to launch perfectly. It sounds like you're describing two kinds of slowness to your launch, the first one is unquestionably the force limiter and the ... Read More
I have a 2003 Subaru Legacy with 35,500 miles on it. I have 500 miles to decided whether or not I want to purchase the Subaru Gold Extended warranty. My question, do those of you that follow this board think I should purchase it? I know its a gamble, and it paid off on my '91 Legacy back then (constant replacement of CV joints every 15k miles). My only concern is ... Read More
Just wanted to share my experiences with you guys regarding these tires. This was my first 'full' winter with them. All I can say is 'awesome'. I think I posted a review when I purchased them last spring, but, anyway.... The tires were great in the summer rainstorms. I have never hydroplaned in them, even when trying. You won't like them in the winter if you 'like' to play in the ... Read More
Rocco, In the process of buying a 2005 Legacy OB I asked the mechanic that did the pre-purchase inspection about the dreaded piston slap. I forget the exact details of his explanation but essentially it is the same one that a previous poster gave you: the condition does still exist in all current model lines (but not in all cars). If an individual car developes the condition it is the degree ... Read More
There is alot bad information regarding the piston slap problem. Here are the facts of my experience. My 2003 Legacy developed the piston slap when the weather started turning cold (below 30 degrees F). If the ambient temperature was above 30 degrees, no slap. Under 30 degrees, it took at least 10 minutes before the noise went away. I brought the car in to my local Subaru Service shop along with ... Read More
Message: I have a 2003 Legacy GT Station Wagon which came with 205/55/16 tires on 16" wheels. I want to install a "winter package" consisting of 195/60/15 tires on 15" wheels. A 15" package is a lot less expensive that a 16". I went to 2 Subaru dealers and they knew less about it than I did. At least they would not commit to the 15" and that I should go ... Read More
If you think about the physics, lighter pulleys have no effect on engine horsepower. Because of the reduced inertia of a lighter pulley, the engine revs up a bit faster, especially if lightly loaded (as by a drum on a chassis dyno), so the "computed" hp is greater. But in the real world, where the engine is accelerating the mass of the car (3600 pounds more or less, with driver), installing ... Read More
Well, I think the oppresive summer heat wave has gotten the best of my sunroof shade. When I pulled it closed today it seemed to drag. It was 100F here in VA mountains. Upon closer inspection, the glue that holds the fabric to the liner has come loose. I pressed it back, but, it wouldn't stick. To close the shade (front shade, btw), I pulled down easily on the liner and ... Read More
The following are problems/annoyances I have been experiencing with my 2003 Legacy Outback, which is currently around 26,000 miles. I haven't been able to find many posts concerning most of these issues and was wondering if anyone has experienced similar problems: 1. Gas peddle sticks when car sits for more than 5-6 hours. Problem started in Fall 2004. Seems to only do this during colder months, from say Nov-May, because it ... Read More
I put Bridgestone Turanzas on a 2003 L. L. Bean last Spring and ran through the winter with them. DO NOT PUT THESE TIRES ON YOUR CAR! They were so bad in the snow that I thought I was driving a rear-wheel car instead of a Subaru. I live north of Pittsburgh, so our winters are probably similar. I assume it's the tread design, but whatever the reason, these tires were ... Read More
This is also a good question for our Subaru Legacy/Outback Wagons - Problems & Solutions discussion. That's where owners can share their experiences with you. kirstie_h Roving Host Host, Future Vehicles & Smart Shopper discussions
I purchased my 2000 Legacy Wagon GT in September 2003. Whenever I have driven the car in excess of 20 minutes, I notice that, as I take a tight turn (like into a parking space), a noise emanates from the car, almost like a piece of rubber touching the bodywork. This ONLY happens after I have driven the car for a while and never when cold. This leads me to think ... Read More
HI, Some of you may recall that I had a bad accident on Dec. 26th. I was hit on the drivers side jsut behind the front tire by a pickup and a Nissan SUV. Four days after getting the car back from the body shop, looking like new, I was rear-ended in a snowfall in the city, by another SUV, this one a Ford Expedition. I had stopped and the Ford, ... Read More
Webought a new Legacy wagon from our local dealer in 2001. My wife complained from the beginning about the clutch shuddering at the point of engagement. I took the car to the dealer concerning an unrelated problem and asked them to check the clutch. They had one of their mechanics drive it and, after a short trip around the lot, he reported "no shudder when releasing the clutch...at this time vehicle ... Read More
libertycat, "Subaru Crew: 2005+ Subaru Legacy/Outback" #, 1 Jul 2003 7:28 pm read on, lots of posts!
I have an 05 2.5i ltd legacy wagon. I don't find the climate system to be too bad. I generally in this weather go manual by setting the mode to the foot mode. Between my wife and I we use about a 5 degree temp. difference on the settings. Seems to put out plenty of heat. No fogging problems either. In fact the side windows in back in my 2002 WRX ... Read More
Larry, I was experiencing a lower frequency noise from my 2003 Legacy. The noise was somewhat irregular. My Subaru mechanic used his 18" screwdriver to diagnose the noise as a rattling cam belt tensioner. He replaced the tensioner and that noise was gone. Maybe that is your problem. Good luck. -Jim
Kens You stated "I think you're mixing up the base Legacy with the Legacy GT. The base Legacy is definetly playing in the same arena as the Accord and Camry. I don't think most people who are looking at the base model are going to put as much weight on sport as those who shop for the Legacy GT. People who are shopping for G35s, BMWs, Acuras or to upgrade ... Read More
I once sold 2002 & 2003 model Subaru's. As I recall from training classes, on all 5 speed models the torque from the engine is split equally 50/50 over the front and rear drive axles. All subies with a 5 speed (except new STI) work that way. Therefore, if you apply a good deal of torque to make the car go, the rear wheels can easily break loose on ice while ... Read More
I am now driving my third Subaru. Here are my MPG experiences: 2000 Legacy L Sedan 2.5L MT 23-31 MPG, average 25 MPG 2003 Legacy SE Wagon 2.5L 4EAT 21-28MPG, average 23 MPG 2005 Legacy 2.5i Sedan 2.5 L MT 26 MPG so far. The GT with the turbo has a different final drive ratio, so the MPG will not be as good as the 2.5i. Jim
Both are great cars, and you should be able to decide based on the look and feel, and the way they drive (they are very different in all those regards). The Outback will be closer to your TL in style and feel, but the Forester is much more fun and nimble to drive. To address your concern: the Forester's regular side airbags go up higher than typical and offer head protection. ... Read More
I took my $25 test drive invitation to the dealer this evening to check out the new 2005. Interestingly enough, the dealer hadn't seen one of these forms yet. Guess folks don't want to put up with the potential dealer hassle to drive the 2005 for $25. My background: I have always owned a Subaru. A 1983 Subaru Wagon was my first car my dad bought for me when I was ... Read More
That Motor Trend review by Jeff Bartlett was less-than-thorough as it made no mention of handling. The “athleticism” that he refers to concerns the engine. No argument there. “Power off the line is spirited, but once rpm climbs past 3000, the torque approaches its peak and the car scoots with unexpected athleticism.” But the Motor Trend review by Todd Lassa was both complimentary and critical regarding Legacy GT handling, calling the ... Read More
I recently bought a new 2005 Outback 2.5i and am pleased overall with the car but am very upset about the poor (marginal) rating of the just released side impact crash test. It seems that there is a problem with the side airbags not performing well. I am aware that Subaru frequently monitors this site and hope that a response is forthcoming. I have talked to their customer service center and ... Read More
Saturday I test drove a OB Turbo. Love at first drive. Even fit my 6'3" frame (just). I was sorely tempted to buy on the spot. But I figured I would wait for NHTSA or IIHS results. Little did I know (miss a day at Edmunds.com and you miss a lot) IIHS had already tested a Legacy. I was euphoric with expectation when, after my test drive, I hit the IIHS ... Read More
We losts some posts here, so I'll recap. Subaru had some clutch and even tranny claims for 2002 model WRXs, most from abuse. They got smart and employed a force-limiting valve on the 2003s, and warranty claims plummeted to virtually zero. I think that pretty much proves it was mis-use, and not a tranny/clutch problem per se. Besides, Acura has had far more tranny issues than Subaru, and that's well publicized. ... Read More
fitzy2 - in posting #3343, directly above yours, I describe Subaru's latest statement re: wind noise from the gusset released April 15, 2004. Apparently newer outbacks and legacies have the newer gusset and aren't supposed to exhibit this noise. But I'd go to the dealer anyway for them to perform the diagnostic described above. "A new style door mirror gusset has been used in production starting September 2003, with the following ... Read More
I suspect that may be what will happen to me too, next warping after warranty expires but may just sneak in under the 36 months. Rear rotors on my 2003 Legacy Wagon were also more warped than the fronts (going by the amount machined off) and wear on the pads twice the front wear. Advised by service manager this they see this often on Subarus but first time I have seen ... Read More
I understand that many people (including independent mechanics and Subaru mechanics) recommend inserting the FWD fuse for summer driving for improved MPG in AWD Subarus. While some people experienced 1-2 MPG improvement, I have heard of a person boasting over 20% improvement. While I am tempted to try it, I want to make sure it is safe for the drivetrain. According to the manual, it is OK to do it temporarly, ... Read More
I sat in a 2005 Subaru Outback today! I was running errands and swung by the dealer, I was surprised to see them! They have about 5 - all basic, non turbo models. The new interior is GREAT. As nice as my 2003 Honda Accord, maybe even up to a low end Acura sedan like the TSX. Even the base models had 4 stage heated seats, firm bucket seats and classy ... Read More
jrosasmc I contacted Subaru about plain Legacy L models last June. I was told that Subaru did manufacture some plain L models for fleet sales and that the dealer could special order them. At that time they had several 2003 Legacy L models in the factory lot. Early in the 2004 model year, I saw punlished prices for non SE Legacy models, so I think some were produced. The dealers were ... Read More
My 95 Legacy has AWD - I felt safe. It transferred power "from the wheels that slip to the wheels that grip." But now, what do I really need: AWD, AWD + VDT, AWD + VTD + VDC. What's next, M-O-U-S-E? What's right 4UNMe? Part of the "Beauty of All Wheel Drive" was not having to think about it. Let's see what AWD systems Subaru offers: Manual Transmission: viscous-coupling locking center ... Read More
Ok forgive the really long post.....Like I mentioned in my original post I DO like the styling of the new Legacy. In fact here are some of the best pics I have seen: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&ur- - - - l=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carworld.jp%2Fcar%2Fsubaru%2Flegacy%2Fhtml%2Fi- - - - ndex.html http://www.carworld.jp/car/subaru/legacy/html/index7.html (Note most of the pics show the Spec B which is only avail in Japan shown with the beautiful bumper and 18" alloys, my Subaru all I want ... Read More
I signed on today specifically to post an inquiry about a burning smell I notice from time to time. It's good to see I'm not alone. I have a 2003 Legacy S/W with 29K miles on it. I have noticed several times a burning smell, more like the smell of burning rubber rather than anti-freeze, on those days when I drive with my heater blower motor on high. I seldom need ... Read More
approximately 6 weeks ago, I posted a note regarding a piston slap problem on my 2003 Legacy. I took the wagon in to my local Subaru dealer who stated that SOA suggested replacing pistons #2 and #4. The pistons were replaced last week, and I am pleased to report that there is no more unusual noise at cold start up (here in Chicago, we have experienced some very cold mornings). Jim ... Read More