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2002 Saab 9-3 Consumer Discussions
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Saab 9-3 Maintenance and Repair
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Re: won't start when hot [dedmeat]
Thanks for the response. I sold my Saab because it just became too unreliable. The latest problem was intermittent failure of the air conditioning fan. When it failed the first time a dealer replaced the fan 'resistor, his name for it'. It worked, then failed again, then worked again with no intervention, so I sold the Saab. Consumer Reports rates the 2002 Saab 9-3 as a not buy.
Saab 9-3 Convertible
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2002 or 2003
I am looking into a 9-3 2002 or 2003 convertible. As a new Saab fan, are there differences between the 2 years - I have heard that the 2003 convertible did not make as many changes as the 2004. The pricing for the '02 is about $2000 or more less than the '03 however the '02 has about 20,000 less miles I guess I am wondering what are the benefits of ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Don't hold an MBA, earned it, plus a BA in Management and Nursing
First, readers who want a Saab at a good price go to luxury motors on the net, click on the Saab symbol, look at MSRP and their price at Downers Grove Saab in Chicago. I bought one last week, they are great, largest Saab dealer I ever saw. I am 50 plus years of age, this is my fifth Saab and a so called Saab salesman attacks me and calls me ... Read More
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Re: Price Paid/Buying Experience [saablcp]
I have explained in the the posting, I buy them for driving. Downers Grove Saab, view Luxury motors dot , then go to Downers grove Saab. I said the same thing, called and asked is this a mistake. You want a copy of the paperwork? I don't claim it, I did it. I am eligible for the GM supplier discount, but they would not accept it, for the price was below. ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Lease Questions
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Question about Saab depreciation
Hi, I'm posting this here because the people answering questions in this thread seem very knowledgeable . . . I'm considering a Saab 2002 9-3 SE and there's a huge difference between the KBB price ($9200) and the Edmunds price ($6500). This is for a private party sale for a car in good condition with 71,000 miles on it. I'm wondering which price is more realistic.
Saab 9-3 Reliability?
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Warning! Change belt tensioner on Saabs
Have owned a SAAB 9-5 2000 wagon since 2002. Have just suffered catastrophic engine failure at 90k miles due to a failed belt tensioner. Dealer replaced timing belt at 60K and did not suggest that tensioner is just as likely to fail with same result. We would not buy a SAAB again. It's a part time job keeping this car on the road and the quality level is miserable. Seat belts ... Read More
Article Comments - 2008 Saab 9-3 Aero XWD First Drive
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Re: Article Comments - 2008 Saab 9-3 Aero XWD First Drive [mcclearyfl]
Those "solid black side moldings" conspicuously missing from the 2008 are the reason my 2002 is unmarked after 55K in an urban environment. Same here for my '99 9-5 with 120K and has not been a stranger to mall parking lots. But it looks like the '08 9-3 convertible pictured has body color side moldings. Reviewers always tend to cast aspersions on the quality of the material in Saab interiors. But ... Read More
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Re: Article Comments - 2008 Saab 9-3 Aero XWD First Drive [KarenS]
Those "solid black side moldings" conspicuously missing from the 2008 are the reason my 2002 is unmarked after 55K in an urban environment. My other car, a 2003 Avalon, was introduced as a new model in 2005, again without side moldings. Guess what the #1 dealer-installed option became.
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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My Saab 9-3
I got my Saab 9-3 last October as my first car. I had been in love with its sharp, updated looks and sporty stance ever since it hit dealer lots in 2002 for the 2003 model year. I think it is a beautiful car, and it was one of very few cars on my list when I went looking to buy. It wasn't until I got into the "cockpit" on that ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Convertible
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Re: 2003 Saab 9-3 Convertible [jeep53]
Thanks for your info about the armrest you can purchase for the Saab 9-3 convertible. I looked at the site but it said for years 1999 thru 2002. I thought the '02's and '03's were the same interior but I might be wrong about that. I'm going to send the company a question about that. By the way, was it easy to intall and did it help much? Thanks again for ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Reliability?
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Re: I tried to switch but I failed [r34]
Saab safety is legendary. The 9-3 and 9-5 didn't win 5-Stars top Safety award from IIHS for nothing...it is truely the safest car on the road money can buy... As far as the 9-3 reliability is concerned Model Year 2002 is the safest bet. 2002 is the last model year for the old style hatch and 02-03 for the convertible. 2002 is the most refined 93 of the classic body style. ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Convertible
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My Car
2002 Saab 93 SE Convt with Sport Package. Isn't this car beautiful? I'm lucky to own one :)
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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IIHS Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan Crash Tests
The Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan and the 9-5 appear to be the safest in their respected classes. These crash tests show how far Saab has come and also how much they are set apart from other manufacturers in unparalled safety. http://www.saabhistory.com/2006/12/22/iihs-crash-test-saab-9-3-sport-sedan-2004/- - http://www.saabhistory.com/2006/12/22/iihs-9-3-sport-sedan-crash-test-2003/ http://www.saabhistory.com/2006/12/22/iihs-9-5-crash-test-footage-2002/ There is even footage of the Saab moose test that Saab continues to do even today. http://www.saabhistory.com/2006/12/22/saab-900-moose-test-footage-1997/ Let me know what your thoughts are.
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Re: To Saab or Not to Saab [gormerod]
Compared to my 2002 9-3 hatchback, the current 9-3 is slightly quieter, more nimble and has less turbo lag (based on my experience with a service loaner). The driving experience is probably more middle-of-the-road, and appeals to a wider range of drivers than did the 2002. Interior finish is another matter. My 5-year old "wood" dash and leather seats look new. The interior door panels could be from a luxury model. ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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Engine sludge – a rude awakening
Your comment, Flyndrive1, caused me to do some web research, and what I found shocked and alarmed me. I had always assumed that sludge was a maintenance issue (and, certainly, poor maintenance can be one of the causes) but the articles below really gave me cause for thought. www.andrewsofprinceton.com/service/oil_sludge.pdf www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/maintenance-accessories/engine-sludge-1205/over- view/index.htm In summary, the design of certain engines (and specifically the very fine oil screen on the 9-3 oil pump) can ... Read More
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Re: Engine sludge [mcclearyfl]
Stephan, Stephan, Stephan. Your Belgian arrogance speaks for itself. As a pilot and ex-motorcycle racer, I believe in always using recommended maintenance schedules as the minimum maintenance standards and I always have used Mobile 1 oil and filters in my 2002 Saab 9-3. Nonetheless, my Saab failed at 65,000 miles due to engine sludge. I doubt that of the 40 other listings I found with sludged engine failure, everyone failed to ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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Re: Purchase [ogr81]
Hello ogr81. Nice to hear good new from you too. I have 03' 9-3 Linear too and running very well since 2002 november. some bad experiences for my car were to hit by Buick, a mid size truck and wolf on the front door. But it only make me feel it's the safest car in the world. because the only bigger damage was from the wolf. cost me a new front ... Read More
Saab European Delivery
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Saab ED information
Due to some of the misinformation over the last several months I have copied several posts from last summer from the European Delivery Board. We purchased a 2002 BMW 530i, Sport Package, 5 speed through BMW's European Delivery Program. Delivered on July 4, 2002. This July 6th we will take delivery of a 2005 Saab 9-3 Arc Convertible; July 4th did not work with our travel schedule. BMWs are discounted 7% ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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Re: Rear windows in 2006 Saab 93 [skmces]
Blessedly the lease on my 2003 9-3 ended last February, so I'm finally free of that car. It's a shame, before that I had leased a 2000 SAAB 9-5 that was a wonderful car, so much so that my wife got a 2002 9-5 (which we bought out after that lease). The 9-5's are wonderful cars but, alas, were designed before GM took 100% control of SAAB. So the 9-5's are ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: 0% APR for 72 months [allysonz]
I bit, and bought a 9-3 convertible on 6/30 for $0 down, 0% finance over 60 months. I paid $37,850 for a 9-3 Arc convertible with auto tranny, cold weather package and steel gray metallic paint. Price included $500 off for loyalty (was trading in a Saab lease) and they bought out my last lease payment ($340) and, of course, waived the disposition fee on the lease car. Price was in ... Read More
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Considering buying a 2002 93 SAAB convertible
Does anyone know if the cost of repairning a SAAB is more expensive than an americian car? I've been told it's much more expensive. Any advice on this car?
Saab 9-3 Lease Questions
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Re: Saab 9-3 lease [Car_man]
Car_man, I am looking at a 2006 Saab 2.0L convertible lease, turning in a Saab 2002 convertible with 2 payments of $552 plus a disposition fee of $350 (total $1454). Apparently I just missed the "turn in waive deal", but here in West Palm Beach, FL they are offering: "27 month, 12K mile per year lease on the 9-3. Pament STILL at 579 plus tax. Convertible with Automatic and Premium. $2250 ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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9-3 SE
i posted a question on another saab board here but didn't really get too much advice. At the moment i have a 04 jetta gls 1.8t with all the works (leather, heated seats, multi-function steering wheel, etc.) If i were to get another car i would want all the same features, and i know saab would have all of them. I'm thinking about trading it in on a certified 9-3 se, ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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Re: Looking to buy... [kylep86]
Well, in 2000 CR recommended the 9-3 because its reliability was passing. It got an "Average" grade, which isn't too shabby. But I think that after 100K miles Saabs tend to bring trouble. So try to get one with low miles. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety gave the car an Acceptable rating in the Frontal Offset test. I have an odd feeling the 9-3 can do better than that, but ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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Why does Saab discriminate against low-mileage owners?
My 2002-SE with 30,000 miles has been remarkably free of problems, and the lease was due to expire in January 2006. I have now paid off the outstanding lease and have purchased the car. A major Saab promotion was free service up to and including the 30,000 mile service, with a 36 month limit. But my lease was for 48 months, so I finished up paying over $500 at 46 months. ... Read More
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future 9-3combi buyer
thanks airpower,I presently own a 2002 passat tubo and have had 4.5 good years with only a few reliability setbacks. I test drove the 06 2.0t 9-3 auto and really liked the ride and feel. It was similar to the passat but with a bit more roadfeel>Two very important features in a car to me aside from the drive are the seat comfort (a plus for the saab) and the sound ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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Re: R34 and tire choice
I must admit I don't have a clear recollection of the exact Pirelli tire that came standard on the 2002 SE, so you may well be right. As I get older my driving has become more conservative, so I rarely take my tires to the performance edge. Nevertheless, I have great confidence in the Goodyear Assurance dry road performance. Since you live in Chicago you will know that our summer has ... Read More
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RE: mcclearyfl
Shouldn't the Pirelli have the same spec (except speeding rating & Max Load rating) as the Good year ? I thought Saab changed the OEM tires for 2002 9-3 to 205/55/R16. I am living in the Chicago area too. I bought my 2002 as CPO and found that the dealer put some cheap Cooper tires on it. It may due to my heavy steering and longer stopping distance problems. I am ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Lease Questions
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zero down leases?
Does Saab offer zero down leases? Do all manfacturers do this in general? I am getting a car allowance in my new position so I would like a zero down lease for 24 months on something nice, $400-$500 per month is my target I have a 2002 Civic with $4,000 equity and I would like to hold onto the cash and sell the car myself! I like the 9-3 Sedan with ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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Tire replacement for 9-3
Sastryb, there will be many opinions regarding replacement tires, so I can only give you the benefit of my experience. My 2002 9-3 came with Pirelli tires that, after 20,000 miles (or approx 30K kilometers) became extremely noisy, and the rough, bouncy ride unacceptable. I elected to purchase a slightly lower-profile, quiet-running tire, a Goodyear Assurance P205 55 R16 with an H speed rating (I believe the original equipment tire had ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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My 2003 saab is running great
I brought my saab 9-3 on 11-15-2002. and i check its birthday actually was September that year. I actually find almost no problems at all. only very minor for the first two months with rear door luck. Even dealer couldn't find out what's the problem. It heals itself. what's a amazing car. and it actually went to two accident. I wrote my post very easely ago. So I did experience how ... Read More
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Re: Reliability Problems [mooselook]
Sorry to hear about all the problems you've had. From personal experince and from what I've read on various Saab forums, I've learned one important thing: never buy a car in its first model year. It's good that you leased yours. You said you've had your car since 2002, so I'm assuming its a MY 2003? I've had my '05 Arc for a little over a month and things are going ... Read More
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Reliability Problems
I've had my 9-3 Linear since 11/2002. I now have 31,000 miles. The following is a list of the problems I've had so far: 2/2/2005 30,900 Miles Turbo problem occurs again. No boost. Suspension making a lot of noise going over bumps. Will have dealer check out both problems. 1/12/2005 30,191 Miles Turbo problem. No boost. Dealer repaired loose wire on pressure sensor. 1/12/2005 30,191 Miles Fuel filler cap fails, causing ... Read More
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Re: [wmquan]
Unfortunately these specific side-impact results only apply to 9-3's manufactured after December 2003, when Saab changed the side torso airbags to "improve occupant protection in side-impact crashes."<< All it means is that the pre-December '03 ones were not tested for side impact by the IIHS (though all 9-3SS models have a 5 star rating for frontal tests). The earlier ones are still very, very safe cars. Nothing unfortunate about it Also, ... Read More
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Saab on ice or snow
I would like to share spme of my experiences. I have leaner with all season tires on it. Mosr of time driven in Chicago area all year ariund since november 2002. I feel pretty confident on this car performance on ice and snow condition. Some of time I feel it handles better than my other car with real time AWD funtion on the similar road condition. From I heard and read ... Read More
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Lets talk 9-3 vs. 9-5
We may be in the market for a imported sedan soon. As a guy who likes to buy low and hold, I just love the rotten resale on SAABS. What other brand lets you pay just 50% of MSRP two years down the road? (Admittedly, unlike BMW etc. only Olaf himself pays within 7K of MSRP on a SAAB.) A quick look at Edmunds TMV figures puts a 2002 9-5 AERO ... Read More
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Saab for all
I do feel very sorry for those posts from who has bad experiences with 9-3ss. And I always worry about if anyone come to here and watch these bad only bad infos about this car, might be scared away. So I would like to share some of my good side of expereinces. I have 2003 9-3ss since Nov 15 2002. So it seems like the car is the first generaltion. At ... Read More
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Re: Problems? [blockislandguy #2431]
Edmunds on the 9-3ss Linear stereo: Full Test: 2003 Saab 9-3 Stereo Evaluation By Erin Riches Date posted: 11-26-2002 System Score: 5.0 Components: When we first flipped on the sound system in the new Saab 9-3, we were convinced that it couldn't be the completed factory system. After all, hadn't we been alerted by several Saab representatives that the vehicle we would be road testing was a "preproduction model," with all ... Read More
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Re: [mrblonde49 #2419]
I disagree. Particularly if it is merely a speaker problem, a manufacturer committed to quality a) would never have put them into any model year production, and b) WOULD have retrofitted the vehicles with the better speakers, at least for those people who complained. I was very happy with my 2000 9-5. As a result my wife also leased a 2002 9-5, and my sister in law a 2002 9-3. So ... Read More
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Re: I've done my homework ... [mrblonde49 #2412]
MrBlonde49: 1) I leased the 9-3ss because I was very happy with the 2000 9-5 that I had leased, which was coming off lease (indeed my wife leased a 2002 9-5). Because of the GM family discount (via father-in-law) and incentives on the 9-3ss at the time (vs. none on the 9-5) it was a financial no-brainer. I was never impressed with the interior -- the top of the dash and ... Read More
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my 2003 Saab
My Saab has 20k on it since November 2002. And everything still hold well. Even I got hit so hard on the second days of ownership, you can refer to long previous post to see what I had happen. Feel sad for that dealer did not maintain their car for test drive.
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03 linear
i purchased one of the first 9-3's, linear, launch, 5 speed, in november 2002. i've owned saabs since 1983 (83 900 T for 115K, 91 9000T for 120K, 2000 9-3 5 door leased..all standards) I now have 12,000 miles in 13 months. had onstar installed 8 months later without issue. followed this site and made a few posts reviewing my initial experience. i really have had zero problems with rattles, stalling, ... Read More
Saab European Delivery
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Answer...
By previous generation, I mean the 1999-2002 9-3's. As for Euro pickup, yes 100% finance is expected on the day you pick up the car UNLESS you finance thru SAAB Financial Services. If you chose SFSC, there is a "delayed" payment of sorts that SAAB has figured out. For greater detail you would have to contact them. Pickup in Sweden or purchase in the USA, either way you are getting a ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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Cargo area / folddown rear seats puzzler
Hi gang! I test drove a 5-speed 2002 SE (4 dr.) hatch yesterday and was disappointed with the folddown rear seats. What puzzled me is that neither the seller nor I could figure out how to have both rear seats folded down all the way (for maximum cargo volume) AND have the driver's seat be in a confortable driving position. When we slid the seat backwards to accomodate my legs (I'm ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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87, 90 or 93 octane??
My daughter just bought a used 2002 Saab SE with just 8100 miles on it. The manual says that she can burn 87, 90 or 93 octane gas in it. What has been people's experience with these different octanes?
Mercedes-Benz C230 vs. Saab 9-3
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2002 C230K Likes and Dislikes
cjs2002: I've had my C230K for ~13 months and it has been performing as expected. Likes: tight handling with very good distance cruising comfort (had another 500 mile R/T last week). Enough power, good fuel economy, no squeaks. Excellent dealer service department. Dislikes: cassette standard instead of a CD player ($800 option on the '02; less for the '03). Can only carry a limited quantity of 8ft long 2x4's and still ... Read More
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2002 C230K Likes and Dislikes
cjs2002: We've had our C230 Coupe for 10 months and it is a blast to drive. Clearly the most fun car that my wife and I have ever owned. It has had some first year glitches which include factory and dealer reprogramming of ESP (Stability Control) and Brake Assist software, some brake shoe replacement, and a defective glove box, but otherwise the car has been great. Likes: Outstanding acceleration and torque, ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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Saab Cars USA Announces Best February in History
Saab Cars USA Announces Best February in History Sales up 33% for the month; 44% for the year Norcross, GA — Saab Cars USA reported sales of 3,598 cars last month, making it the company’s best February in its 47-year history. This represents a 33 percent increase over February 2002 (2,699 cars). Year-to-date, Saab has sold 6,149 cars in the U.S. — a 44 percent increase over 2002 (4,274 cars). “What ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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Are there any NEW Saab 93 2002 4 dr hatchbacks left?
I would like to get one. my 2000 93 just got totalled by a maniac. Any idea where i might be able to get one of those unsold 2002/2001 934 dr hatchbacks?
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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renee_etoile - A4 vs. 9-3
IMHO, the A4 isn't played out as it's still pretty new (released in the U.S. for the 2002 model year, I believe). It does have trade-offs, however. The A4 has some pros and cons over the 9-3. - Smaller on the inside; especially the rear seat and trunk. - First-year reliability not good. - European crash test scores good but not as good as the 9-3. - No anti-whiplash head restraints. ... Read More
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a4 vs 9-3
I thought I would make a comment about your A4 vs 9-3 question renee. I am about a month or two away from buying a 9-3 and have been comparing cars in it's class for a while now. I have been fortunate enough to spend some time in just about everything in the 9-3's class (3 series, A4, C-class, G35, CTS) because of the line of work I'm in. To say ... Read More
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Saab 9-3 test drive
Hey Guys... Went to my local Saab dealer and test drove the linear with the auto/triptonic....it was ok.. I currently drive a 98 passat and felt that the SAAB size wise was about the same.. The SAAB definitely handled better and felt nicer, but I wasn't blown away. I also drove a 2002 Aero 9-5..I most definitely could see and feel the difference. The 9-5 was boring, uninspired and listless...The 9-3 ... Read More
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best deals
kpfleger asked where could you get the best information on saabs and the dealer incentives? try cars.com. Far better than edmunds. Also looking at 2002 viggen convertible w/ 10k miles vs. new s-e convertible. Any thoughts anybody?
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Crash and Phones
That isn't too bad. I would have though that Saab parts would be insanely overpriced due to the low volume of cars on the road, but your costs do not seem out of line compared to the average car crash. On a separate topic, http://www.saabcatalog.com lists a "Phone Connector Harness" for $15 for both the 9-3 and 9-5 (1999 models and up). I assume this doesn't include the 2003 model because ... Read More
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Sound system
Hey all! As suggested by pat (thanks for the friendly welcome!), I'm retrying a question that I posted in a new discussion. Long-time Edmunds reader, first time poster. I'm looking into buying the new Saab 9-3, Linear, and I was wondering if anyone out there who already has one can comment on the sound system. According to the most recent Road Test (updated 11/26/2002, I believe), the upgraded sound system in ... Read More
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cdndriver
I bought my 2001 9-3 at 3,000 below invoice just over a year ago (in ottawa). They were just getting the 2002 models in and eagerly keeping the lots clear for when the 2003 came. I suspect that you could get a 2002 9-5 for that much or more below invoice. They are going to be trying to keep the lots clear for when the new one comes as a 2004 ... Read More
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moose
congrats on your car, which is identical to mine, except color. i echo your thoughts. it is a fun car to drive. the infinity-accura-cadillac-volvo-240 series thing is about driving a unique different car. my wife had a 5 speed accura legend and i hated the soft, plush "feminine" (sorry) drive. this saab gives you the feeling of being different, in the cockpit of a vehicle (not plush transportation) plus an unbelieveable ... Read More
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johnxyz
The I4 used in the 2003 Saab is different from previous models. It is now aluminum. Saab has always been known for producing great engines. It is not the exact same engine used in Saturns, that one is little bit smaller (87 cubic centimeters), and not turbocharged. The Saabs also have the Trionic engine management system which is far superior to the Saturn engine management. The 2003 Trionic-8 is better than ... Read More
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oldsman
The saab is a better car than you're intrique. The saab can compete with the A4,S60 and almost with a BMW 3 series. The Intrigue will put you in the rubarb if you try to put it through the paces like these near-luxury sporty sedans. The standard options on the Saab are far greater than what comes on the intrigue. I will repeat the safety factor, the old 900/9-3 (same model ... Read More
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torque steer
dindak >Very few (if any) modern cars have it. I highly doubt you will find any in the new 9-3. Have you driven the 240-hp altima? Torque steer almost put my test drive into a building. As said eariler torque steer is caused by unequal torque going to each of the front wheels. I have heard that you can help the torque steer on torquey saabs with replacement drivetrain/suspension/steering parts. (link ... Read More
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2003 93
I think saab has a real winner here, i am very interested in the new 93 however i have a great dislike for turbo engines. When i was shopping around for a new car about a year and a half ago i really wanted a saab, but after test driving my friend's 2002 95 aerowagon i was very unimpressed by the engine, or mainly should i say the turbo lag, it ... Read More
2003 Saab 9-3
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Saab incentive
is to clear out remaining 2002 stock. Wish I had the money right now, as I still love the looks of the old-model Hatchbacks. :) Saab has traditionally been offered at YE with a significant reduction in MSRP. This coming model year may be the first in many (if European demand is any indication) that Saab has so few cars left at YE as to make a rebate not necessary. It ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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sales
According to Saab, August and september 2002, 14,000 new 9-3 have been sold in Europe. And it is projected to sell 40,000 by the end of the year. However, Saab only produced 7000 in these 2 months, so many people are on the waiting list. The heat is spreading now..... Saab 9-3 will be a hot car.
2003 Saab 9-3
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sales figures!!!
According to August and September 2002 sales, over 14,000 new Saab 9-3 have been ordered. Since only 7000 were made during these months, many are on the waiting list. The heat of the new saab 9-3 is spreading worldwide. Note: the designer Michael Mauer was hired almost 2 years ago. He designed the Mercedes SLK and C class.
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Tough decision
So March delivery is true. That's too bad. Love my Saab, will probably love my new one, but if I have to wait another year for the Aero (a complete 10 years for a redesign), that's a big turnoff. so the question is - hang on until the Aero gets released? Or cash on a great deal for 2002 BMW 330Cxi? On a separate note, does anyone out there think the ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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Differences Between 1999 and 2000 Saab 9-3
NAT15, I looked at several used 9-3 base and SE in March 2002 and the quality varied greatly. I then got distracted with a deal, $16,500, on a 1999 9-5SE with 51,000 miles. The car was looked great until I did a cold start and the car smoked for five minutes. The dealer said, "We can't find a problem and the smoke is within spec." Yeah, right. Labor day weekend I ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz C230 vs. Saab 9-3
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C230 vs 9-3
I am the happy owner of a C230 and just inherited' my daughters 2002 9-3 (she's in nyc for school - not a good place for a car) and have driven them back-to-back. The 9-3 is definitely a SEDAN and the mb is a SPORT coupe. Not to say one is better than the other, just different (in the SAAB's case quirky springs to mind). The turbo four with similar HP ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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Saab 9-3 SE vs. Passat GLS
I have located two "slightly" used vehicles for sale by private parties. The first is a 2002 Passat GLS (1.8), automatic, leather, and otherwise pretty well loaded up, with about 14,000 miles on it....for about 20K (not bad). The second is a 2001 Saab 9-3 SE, manual transmission (I prefer) with about 16,000 miles, similarly loaded....for about 18K-19K. Consensus seems to be that driving the Passat is more fun....but Passat's are ... Read More
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Hi roba1102- First time leasing.
My first piece of advice is to not rush into any lease blindly. If you're not familiar with leasing, I highly recommend you take a little time to read some of the leasing articles here at Edmunds. How many months is your lease for? What is the negotiated value, residual, and money factor... for this 2002 9-3 Saab? Is there a dealer or advertising fee included in this? If you're not ... Read More
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Need Advise
I'm about to become a new 9-3 SE 5-door owner. I love hatchbacks and have desired the 9-3 for some time and decided that there is no time like the present since they are discontinuing the model. I put a deposit on the 2nd to last one on the lot. It's an automatic 2002 SE with Premium Package. I'm leasing it for $2000 down, $361 per month and a buyout of ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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hey logic
dindak is right See I like GM as long as they put out decent product and stop trying to sell the same crap they sold in the 80's in terms of engines. The new Malibu/Vectra looks extrememly promising, as it has OHC technology and Euro engineering. That is, assuming Detroit doesn't pervert the basic car with its typical Michigan qualities......I am already upset to hear reports that the horizontal crossbar grille ... Read More
Hatchback participants, introduce yourself here!
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My introduction
Hello everyone - I'm doing things out-of-order since I've already posted a message under the saab 9-3 board. I currently drive a '96 Saturn SC2 and am very seriously looking a the 2002 9-3 Saab. Having never gone through the process I want to be sure I'm researching things well. The Saab I'm looking at is a service loaner and I can't figure out what is a fair asking price.
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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2003 accord???
if the 2003 accord is like a 2002 accord, give me a break...can't compare the 2. my 99 9-3 blows off any accord...any day... be patient..give it time. saab MUST do a non-hatch to expand their market base...maybe a hatch will be in the works later... i love my hatch and wished that the new 93 had a hatch... market reality at work.
Saab 9-3 X
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Here is the new place to discuss the Saab 9-3X.
And to start, here's some Saab 9-3X information from Edmunds' coverage of the 2002 Detroit Auto Show. What do you think? Revka Host Hatchbacks & Station Wagons Boards
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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NO!! Leasing is the smart thing to do
With new Saab's, leasing is perfect due to the fact that they depreciate so quickly. As long as you lease from Saab Financial or a finance company that meets or beats SFSC's residuals and money factors. There are several threads here in Town Hall that discuss leasing. There are several articles publsihed here to teach you about leasing and how to calculate them. Saab Financial heavily subsidises their lease program so ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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vigorous
Short answer is to understand that corrolation does not mean causality. Surely these are not the kind of figures that lie. Figures don't. Its how their analysis is designed (approach) and then afterwords, how the information is interpreted that can be misleading. Often the case when something is quoted out of context. For example, what is 'repurchase'? Is it the rate of repeat buyers, the rate at which lemons are purchased ... Read More
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Does Saab hold up?
Ok, ok thanks for the answers. I understand on the opinion on Edmund's Townhall is valuable stuff when considering purchasing a new car. I also understand people tend to voice dissatisfaction over satisfaction more. So does this mean that the complains on this 9-3 represents a small number of people over all? Also, I noticed that most of the people here who are not happy with their Saabs or 9-3s are ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz C230 vs. Saab 9-3
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Beg to differ
I disagree with the poster who says the 900 and the 9-3 are the same car and unreliable. Half of my 900's problems were in the manual transmission. If this gearbox was changed between the 900 and 9-3, please state what production year this happened and what the specifics were. And FWIW, attitude in the dealership's service department is model independent. I have a 9-3. Best car I ever owned. I ... Read More
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Saab reliabilty
I disagree with the poster who says the 900 and the 9-3 are the same car and unreliable. I have a 9-3. Best car I ever owned. And the UK Consumers Association ranked the two-year old 9-3 (1999) most reliable tied with three others, none of which was a Mercedes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1470000/1470045.stm The people who have compared the two in the Saabnet board consider the Merc dull. A very nice car and ... Read More
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9-3 trims
Saab usually has $4000-$5500 incentive and many dealers are willing to sell their cars at invoice because there is another 2% dealer holdback. You can get a loaded auto base 9-3 (not in 2002 though) for less than 25K and a SE for ~$26-7K. In 2001, there was a $5500 incentiove for Viggen. You can do all your calculation. Even a SE has more/similar horsepower and torque than a C230 and ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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what do you all think?
Hello everyone: I would just like to say that I am relatively new to this room having only been in the Sabb-buying market for the last 2 weeks. However, during that time I have visited this forum numerous times to read differing opinions regarding the advantages - and more often then not!- disadvantages of buying or leasing a new 2002 Saab. With that that said - I have found this site ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz C230 vs. Saab 9-3
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maynardf1
That Opal must be a lot of fun to drive then. I know my 9-3 certainly was. As was also my 900S. The problem is that "fun" isn't the same thing as "reliable" by most people's definitions. One point on pricing: Aren't saabs generally avail. way below msrp, making a straight price comparison more difficult? They are offering strong incentives right now, as the 2002 is known to be the end ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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Looking to buy a SAAB
Just came back from the dealer. They are offering me a 36 month lease 15k, premium package, 2002 9-3 SE for $2,112 at signing and $375/m. Is this a good deal or do I have room to negotiate?
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Is this a good deal?
Saab 9-3 2002. Lease based on 3 yrs, 15k per year, everything rolled in (Virginia tax, tags, bank fee, no down payment) also includes all of your lease loyalty (apparently $500). 9-3 SE with premium package, automatic and metallic paint $393. per month $393. due at lease (1st payment only!)sale price will be $28184. 9-3 SE no premium pack, including automatic and metallic paint $369.08 per month $369.08 due at lease, ... Read More
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Fees, fees, fees and fees...
Cleveland 2002 9-3 5 speed base lease (w/ heated seats and black paint, no premium pckg): $259 x 36 mos, $1999 down + fees. Ok, sounds good. WHY no wiggle room on the fees? $495 acquisition fee, and $300+ termination fee. Why pay Saab these ridiculous bank fees. WHY ARE THESE FEES "NON-NEGOTIABLE"? Also, GM is obviously kicking back something to the dealers for these cheap lease deals. How much? After ... Read More
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squiredogs
The best advice right now is to shop around. There are some aggressive deals out there, and some REAL aggressive deals. I've been extended a deal for a 2002 9-3 loaded 5-speed for $26,400. I've read on www.saabnet.com of people getting a fully loaded 9-3 w/ auto for 27,200. I was told by more than one dealer that since the Saab interest rate is almost 0 that it doesn't make any ... Read More
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Leasing
The lease deal right now for the 9-3 SE is $299/month with a down payment. If you want the car for zero down, the payments equate to $359/month. The SE is the "base model" for 2002. A Viggen will probably run you $60-$80 more a month. Probably looking at high $400s. Saab dealers are willing to negotiate. The 9-3 is being replaced next year (as an '03) with a new platform ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Sedan
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Reliability
Hi! I noticed there's not a lot of postings at this particular site (9-3) compared to other makes and models. Does this mean everyone loves their Saab? (linking Saab with GM and being an ex and current Acura owner, I somehow doubt that). Regardless, it appears my wife wants to sell her hardcore reliable '95 Integra and buy a 2002 9-3 SE. What has been the experience of the 9-3 owners ... Read More
Saab 9-3 Coupe (2002 and earlier)
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Hi dealmkrjjd- Welcome to the Hatchbacks Message Board...
and thanks for your information. We look forward to hearing more about your 2002 Saab SE 9.3 experience. ;-) Revka Host Hatchbacks / Station Wagons / Women's Auto Center Boards
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bluewolf RE: Phx dealers
Back when I got my car the incentive was $5500 on the 9-3 SE!! I got mine at Kachina Saab..the salesman is no longer working for them...too bad he was awesome. The salesman I dealt with at Lund now works at Kachina...Andrew Lucas. Both dealers treated me well but Kachina came through with a better price. If you are looking for an automatic with 8,000 miles I might know where you ... Read More
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Edmund's, attention please
Can we get the 2002 Saab 9-3SE data posted in the "New" section? The 2002s are in stock, and it'd certainly be a help to have invoice and other data before the 0% financing ends October 31... I'd never want to buy a car without being armed with Edmund's info.
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RE: Take the plunge
Hey dmf000...You are correct the base models have been discontinued and the 2dr hatchback is only available as the viggen for 2002. The 4dr SE has be decontented and the price has been lowered. Some standard items for 2001 are options on the SE for 2002...still after adding all the options back on the list price on my loaded SE will be $2555 lower for 2002. I am guessing the factory ... Read More
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Take the Plunge?
Hi, Saab-owners. I understand that for 2002, Saab will no longer be offering the Base 9-3 models. Maybe that's why I found a price online from Carsdirect.com that seems incredibly low - $22.7 for a 2001 Base 3-dr with auto. Is this a good deal? I test drove one and it drove great. I'm partial to hatchbacks, but I noticed, compared to my lowly Ford Probe, that the Saab had very ... Read More
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New 9-3 SE
Hey fellow Saabers! I just traded out my 1999 9-3 SE auto for a silver 2001 9-3 SE manual...What a difference!!! I never really appreciated manual until now! The power difference is amazing not to mention the increase in fuel economy.... I should have gotten manual before, but I guess I needed to learn from my mistake. I was also how amazed at how much the dealer got for my car. ... Read More
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ealtizer..some advice
I'm getting the idea from your last post that you are not quite yet willing to part with your 9-3. As far as cars that have character like the 9-3 the list is short..but depends on what exactly you are looking for in a car. The VW golf GTI turbo will have 180 hp for 2002 and was a blast to drive when it had 150hp but the freeway ride is ... Read More
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$5,000 dealer incentive
haven't found any published info on the dealer incentive, but heard from dealers that there is a $5000 incentive on all 9-3s at this point in time. can anybody confirm if that is accurate or is it even larger than $5k. read somewhere that someone was talking about a $9,000 incentive on 9-3 convertibles last year. was wondering if anyone thought the incentive would get larger as Saab will be delivering ... Read More
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Incentives
I would venture to guess that the Saab incentives will continue until the dealers sell off all the remaining 2001 and 2002 9-3s. I beleive that the 9-3 is going to be replaced by a new model in 2002/2003. Therefore, although the incentive may continue to go down, as it has from $5000 in January to $4300 in May, it is likely to continue as long as the 9-3s are on ... Read More
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To bg750
I received the same deal in South Florida, $23462, for a 9-3 5Speed with leather, cd, sunroof, heated seats (not like I will be needing them), etc. They offered a 7.2% financing rate also. What about you? It looks like the manufacturer is giving the dealers a huge incentive to move 2000 and 2001 models off the lot for the upcoming 2002 models. Looks like a good deal. I will most ... Read More
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