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Re: What the oil co giveth NYC taketh away [ponderpoint]

by andre1969 on Sun Nov 09 09:21:24 PST 2008

Funny how we change our opinion about fuel consumption and the environment once "Zachary" or "Emma" (Are those the new must have names?) Good Lord, I hope those aren't the must-have names for your kids, unless you're talking about communities like Walnut Grove, Walton's Mountain, or Bugtustle. Mayberry or Hooterville, at best. :P

Re: . [Mr_Shiftright]

by andre1969 on Thu Oct 02 11:33:09 PDT 2008

People were smaller then, too. I'm always amused when I watch "The Waltons", and see them slide three people across in John-Boy's old Model A coupe, or the truck, which I'm guessing was based on Model A architecture, too. They just look snug when they do it on tv, but I'm sure it would be cramped in real life! I was kinda shocked one day when I sat behind the wheel of a 1949 or so Buick sedan. That sucker was really cramped. No legroom, plus the steering wheel right in your gut. Maybe you could wear a hat while driving it, but if you have long legs or are chunky, forget about being comfy!

gagrice

by marsha7 on Mon Sep 08 09:05:50 PDT 2008

Sam Walton simply competed better than the crusty old Mom and Pop store knew how...does anybody complain when a supermarket moves into town, bringing cheaper food prices???...who wants to pay more for food???...does rocky pay more for food at the local small market that has no buying power???...does rocky buy milk at 7-11, paying more than any supermarket in town???...I would bet not... The problem is that people are enamored with the Normal Rockwell fantasy of Mom & Pop, but never understand that Mom & Pop charged too much in this modern era...Sam Walton simply did it better, and the empty shops on Main Street are simply part of change, and change for the better...when WalMart comes into town, I would bet, altho I have no figures to prove it, that the townspeople's disposable income goes up simply because they now buy their goods cheaper...that is what happened when the supermarket came into town, and now dry goods (and also food) are cheaper thanks to WalMart... BTW, don't think that the Mom & Pop only bought American goods...much there was imported goods, but nobody was looking... Just like black and white TVs are from the ancient era, so are some Mom & Pop stores...do you buy your TV from the local repairman, or go to Circuit City or Best Buy for a selection of many TVs... Mom & Pop are like UAW...part of the past, they had their day when they were needed, but that passed about 30 years ago for both... Get over it...

Re: rocky [rockylee]

by gagrice on Mon Sep 08 08:52:25 PDT 2008

Door Greeters.......Come-on, some of those people that greeted me looked like they just got out of the pen !!!! Must be Michigan. Here the greeters make me feel like a teenager they are soooo old. Don't forget your beloved Hillary was on the WalMart board of (UNION BUSTING) directors for 6 years. Until Bill ran for the Presidency and they thought it may come back to bite em in the Bleep! Long before Sam Walton died he was moving into towns and undercutting the mom & pop stores. When he died he was the richest man in the USA. He did not get there being benevolent.

Re: rocky [marsha7]

by rockylee on Mon Sep 08 00:12:59 PDT 2008

"Our border would have land mines, along with other barriers"...now THAT is something we agree on wholeheartedly...but a Democrat with a concealed weapon???...c'mon, rocky, what would your heroes Teddy Kennedy and John Kerry and Hussein Obama say, when they want to take guns away from the decent (even you) citizens... Checkout the NRA, and you will see I'm not alone as far as democrats go supporting the 2nd amendment !!! ;) Why would you want to break up WalMart???...he started with one store, expanded as do many companies (Starbucks comes to mind...are you going to break up Starbucks since no one sells as much coffee as they do???), learned how to CUT COSTS in distribution (read Sam Walton's autobiography...a fascinating 2 day read where he tells what he did and how he did it) so getting mechandise into the stores more efficiently allowed him to grow...he also was one of the first to utilize computers to their fullest to run the company inventory and satellite technology... I don't hate the old man but I do strongly dislike his children and what they became. they have stabbed him in the back as far as philosophy (core values) goes. I promise you he's like a rotisery checken in his coffin !!!! ;) He would not import shoddy, lead tainted, crap from China, just to put the locals out of business. you might need to re read that book again !!!! ;) Just because someone gets bigger then YOU think they ought to be and they should be broken up under antitrust???...has it ever dawned on you that most of the jobs in WalMart are unskilled and barely require someone to be able to read???...stocking shelves does not require a college degree, may even be one of the few places that a high school dropout can get a job...cashier???...thanks to bar codes and scanners, dropouts can do the same thing...proof, now they have self-checkout lanes where we scan our own stuff, pay with cash and get proper change...no cashier needed!!!...how are you going to argue that cashiers are worth more than minimum wage, if that, when machines can check me out without the living cashier???...by the way, the computer rarely makes an error on change, but most cashiers, if the computer did not tell them the amount of change, could not think enough to make proper change...so much for gov't schools taught by unionized teachers, their "graduates" can't make change from a $20 bill...so rocky applauds the teachers unions, who basically "manufacture" a student that can barely read or write, similar to the UAW union junk of the last 30 years...but don't tell rocky, as long as a union member got paid, the quality of the product means nothing to him, because he wants laws that will FORCE us to buy the union product, even tho it has no value and it incompetent...private school kids and home schooled kids have no problem, but public government-unionized schools can barely graduate kids who can read "Dick & Jane"... Has it ever occured to you Rocky, hasn't been in a Wal-Mart, since he's left Texas, because up here in the north we have other wiser choices !!!! ;) I don't care if they give some mentally, handicapped, uneducated, illegal alien, homeless, criminal, person a job. They have literally destroyed communities and the parent company will subsidize a new Wal-Mart, until it runs everyone else out of business. They should teach this business practice in Harvard, and refer to it as "Wal-Marting" your competitor !!!!! :mad: I just hate that anti-union, rotten, smelly, company. The ones in Texas, had so many illegal aliens working in them along with illegal alien customers, I'm not sure why the ICE, didn't raid the place ??? I know theirs a job for Rocky, right ??? The ICE !!! Well I would probably blow a gasket because of how restricted the ICE, is. They virtually aren't allowed to do their jobs and I will admit to gagrice, thatisone of the main reasons why I supported his boy Duncan Hunter. ;) One other thought...you rail at the wages at WalMart...no one ever said that clerks at WalMart would be raising a family on WalMart earnings...they never could and cannot now...rocky, just because a human shows up at a job does not mean it is worth $50K a year...cashier, as noted above, greeters and floor sweepers...who, in their right mind, thinks they will support a family on these earnings???...they are, and have always been for a little pocket money, that's all...are door greeters worth $50K???...you think if door greeters unionized they would be paid more???...one day after unionization the greeter would be replaced by a motion sensor for $10, and when you break the beam, the machine would say "Welcome to Walmart"... I agree every job has it's worth, but on the flip side you think ever job in a store or in a manufactoring plant should be paid illegal alien wages and those same people have to rob, steal, sell drugs, just to make ends meet. The proof is in the pudding. Look at any large city where once proud union industries stood and look at em' now !!!! They are crime havens !!!! :mad: That, rocky, is your mental handicap that you are incapable of overcoming...you think the kid selling lemonade on the corner should be able to buy a home and 2 cars from what s/he makes from 25 cent glasses of lemonade...you have no conception that many jobs are simply of little value...AND you expect too much...where is it written that everyone deserves a home, 2 cars, plasma TV, Armani suits, an iPhone for $500, satellite TV, yada, yada, yada...even in your own life you simply EXPECT that any job, no matter how menial, should give someone an income to support a $500K home, full with pool and servants...that expectation is where your union welfare mentality comes into play, and will hold you back forever... You have taken what I said and went off the deep end and only Michael Phelps, can save you !!!! :P I believe that this country can pay a fair minimum wage, one that allows a person to have a modest apartment and be able to feed themselves. Hell you can't hardly do that on $14 an/hr. now days in most places. :( rocky: SOME JOBS SIMPLY HAVE LITTLE VALUE AND PAY LITTLE BECAUSE OF THAT...NOT BECAUSE SAM WALTON WAS CHEAP, BUT BECAUSE A DOOR GREETER IS NOT EVEN WORTH MINIMUM WAGE FROM THE GIT-GO, BUT WHO, OTHER THAN SAM, EVEN THOUGHT TO HAVE DOOR GREETERS IN HIS STORES??? Door Greeters.......Come-on, some of those people that greeted me looked like they just got out of the pen !!!! :surprise: I can only guess when they created the concept of rose colored glasses, somebody was thinking of you... LOL, well the same could be said about the world you live in !!! I know Alanta, isn't suffering the economic affects as we are here in Michigan, but even Alanta, has a pretty strong union base mainly developed by the large African American, population. Good luck in the job hunt... Thanks, I'm going to need it appears........ :( "The Rock"

rocky

by marsha7 on Sun Sep 07 15:25:08 PDT 2008

"Our border would have land mines, along with other barriers"...now THAT is something we agree on wholeheartedly...but a Democrat with a concealed weapon???...c'mon, rocky, what would your heroes Teddy Kennedy and John Kerry and Hussein Obama say, when they want to take guns away from the decent (even you) citizens... Why would you want to break up WalMart???...he started with one store, expanded as do many companies (Starbucks comes to mind...are you going to break up Starbucks since no one sells as much coffee as they do???), learned how to CUT COSTS in distribution (read Sam Walton's autobiography...a fascinating 2 day read where he tells what he did and how he did it) so getting mechandise into the stores more efficiently allowed him to grow...he also was one of the first to utilize computers to their fullest to run the company inventory and satellite technology... Just because someone gets bigger then YOU think they ought to be and they should be broken up under antitrust???...has it ever dawned on you that most of the jobs in WalMart are unskilled and barely require someone to be able to read???...stocking shelves does not require a college degree, may even be one of the few places that a high school dropout can get a job...cashier???...thanks to bar codes and scanners, dropouts can do the same thing...proof, now they have self-checkout lanes where we scan our own stuff, pay with cash and get proper change...no cashier needed!!!...how are you going to argue that cashiers are worth more than minimum wage, if that, when machines can check me out without the living cashier???...by the way, the computer rarely makes an error on change, but most cashiers, if the computer did not tell them the amount of change, could not think enough to make proper change...so much for gov't schools taught by unionized teachers, their "graduates" can't make change from a $20 bill...so rocky applauds the teachers unions, who basically "manufacture" a student that can barely read or write, similar to the UAW union junk of the last 30 years...but don't tell rocky, as long as a union member got paid, the quality of the product means nothing to him, because he wants laws that will FORCE us to buy the union product, even tho it has no value and it incompetent...private school kids and home schooled kids have no problem, but public government-unionized schools can barely graduate kids who can read "Dick & Jane"... One other thought...you rail at the wages at WalMart...no one ever said that clerks at WalMart would be raising a family on WalMart earnings...they never could and cannot now...rocky, just because a human shows up at a job does not mean it is worth $50K a year...cashier, as noted above, greeters and floor sweepers...who, in their right mind, thinks they will support a family on these earnings???...they are, and have always been for a little pocket money, that's all...are door greeters worth $50K???...you think if door greeters unionized they would be paid more???...one day after unionization the greeter would be replaced by a motion sensor for $10, and when you break the beam, the machine would say "Welcome to Walmart"... That, rocky, is your mental handicap that you are incapable of overcoming...you think the kid selling lemonade on the corner should be able to buy a home and 2 cars from what s/he makes from 25 cent glasses of lemonade...you have no conception that many jobs are simply of little value...AND you expect too much...where is it written that everyone deserves a home, 2 cars, plasma TV, Armani suits, an iPhone for $500, satellite TV, yada, yada, yada...even in your own life you simply EXPECT that any job, no matter how menial, should give someone an income to support a $500K home, full with pool and servants...that expectation is where your union welfare mentality comes into play, and will hold you back forever... rocky: SOME JOBS SIMPLY HAVE LITTLE VALUE AND PAY LITTLE BECAUSE OF THAT...NOT BECAUSE SAM WALTON WAS CHEAP, BUT BECAUSE A DOOR GREETER IS NOT EVEN WORTH MINIMUM WAGE FROM THE GIT-GO, BUT WHO, OTHER THAN SAM, EVEN THOUGHT TO HAVE DOOR GREETERS IN HIS STORES??? I can only guess when they created the concept of rose colored glasses, somebody was thinking of you... Good luck in the job hunt...