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2005 Odyssey EX-L w/VCM - Engine Vibration / Shudder
by arekay1 on Mon Oct 27 19:02:42 PDT 2008
Pretty sure I have the same problem - started 3 weeks ago - the first sign was after starting the engine I notice a droan and slight vibration - that continues to exist. Later I experiened a "shudder" in the 20-30 mph range... after being in a gentle cruise and applying a slight load to the engine (pretty sure ECO is active) the reduced power and lower gear cannot deliver the needed torque - so a rapid shudder develops until all cylinders kick it. Felt like misife, or driving over a washboard - a second or two and the shudder is gone but there is still a definite vibration from the engine. Had the plugs and the transmission fluid changed with zero improvement. Had a transmission guy test drive it - car acted up beautifully - but he didn't believe it was transmission since the vibration is apparent at stand still - get the vibration looked at. Test drove it with a Honda mechanic on board - couldn't make the car act up - but he did notice the vibration - also said he has a current complaint from 1 other Odyssey owner but does not yet have a solution. He suspects it could be an issue with the electronics / VCM program. Took the car on a long hwy trip yesterday - car runs better at hwy speed but that is because the symptoms less apparent. Its amazing how often the vehicle is in ECO mode - with cruise on I could feel an engine vibration - then given the right uphill grade (slight load on the enginer) the vibration would drop and I noticed every time that the ECO light would turn off within a half second. Seems to me that the VCM program is messed up - as is regular ignition since it is not like it used to be. I have no fault codes. Perhaps if the computer is sending bad instructions - then it doesnt have the right info to create a fault code. A few more days of shudder and I'll be going back to Honda -or maybe future shop to buy Norton antivirus :confuse:
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by hondafriek on Wed Oct 22 17:24:22 PDT 2008
Now guys no matter what I try I cannot get into the chats, I get into some room but I am all alone, does not work for the Mazda chat either. This has been a problem since I changed my computer. I now have Kaspersky anti virus instead of Norton, could that be the problem? Cheers Pat.
Cameron Diaz Goes Hydrogen route
by gagrice on Fri Oct 10 07:36:46 PDT 2008
This has a lot more style than a Civic FCX. CAMERON DIAZ SET TO RIDE IN THE BMW HYDROGEN 7 TO THE 2008 OSCAR AWARDS CEREMONY 02/22/2008 Diaz Joins Ed Norton, Will Ferrell, Jay Leno and Others Among the First Americans to Hit the Roads In BMW's Hydrogen-Powered Vehicle Hollywood, CA - February 22, 2008... Demonstrating her continued dedication to the exploration of environmentally sustainable energies, Cameron Diaz will be traveling to the 80th Annual Academy Awards ceremony in the BMW Hydrogen 7 Series. The BMW H7 is the first hydrogen-powered luxury sedan, which emits almost nothing but water vapor, and still features all the amenities and comfort of a BMW 7 Series. Diaz, who will present on the awards telecast, has been a leading advocate of environmental issues over the past five years by working with organizations such as the NRDC, Global Green, The Climate Project, and Live Earth.
Re: thanks guys [oregonboy]
by Mr_Shiftright on Tue Oct 07 07:37:50 PDT 2008
That's pretty funny. I actually did take apart a Norton engine in my apartment once but I used only hand tools, honest. And I did occasionally shoot at cats out the back window, but other than that....
Re: thanks guys [Mr_Shiftright]
by oregonboy on Tue Oct 07 06:27:07 PDT 2008
"I used to live in an apartment building in San Francisco with a crazy tenant upstairs from me who used to complain almost weekly to the landlord about my "mixing chemicals" in my apartment and creating noxious fumes that "gave her headaches"; also that I had some kind of "device" that made her walls hum." Let me guess, You were rebuilding a Norton in your apartment's living room. :P
Re: lemons [lemmer]
by Mr_Shiftright on Tue Jul 15 08:37:37 PDT 2008
No, absolutely not. There is no such thing as a "lemon", that is, a car that is totally bad or unfixable. Sure there are cars with defects but the concept of a "lemon" is completely fallacious IMO. A TOTAL car of 15,000 separate parts being "all bad"? Hard to believe. When you meet someone with the "car from hell" you will probably find these factors at play: 1. One or more factory defects that needs correcting. 2. A lack of driver awareness, that is, when to stop driving the car, when to track down an oil leak or bad smell, etc. 3. Incompetent repair shop working on the car. I feel confident that I could take any "car from hell" and make a reliable driver out of it---question is, is it worth my time and money? CREDENTIALS: Have driven MGB, Fiat 124, Renault R16, Porsche 914, Saab Turbo many times across the Nevada desert. Never broke down in any of them. Drove Lambretta scooters, Norton and Triumph motorcycles, Fiat 600, Morgan, Jaguar XK140 --- very rare occasional breakdowns on these. Worst type of car I ever owned: 900 Saab Turbos-- 3 bad ones in a row, I give up. Cars I am genuinely afraid of: Maserati Bi-Turbo, GM diesel cars, Triumph TR-7, VW Dasher, Audi 5000.

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