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by michaell on Mon Nov 10 13:49:56 PST 2008
When I graduated from college in October 1985, I moved from AZ back to my hometown in California and needed a car. Dad knew the GM of the local Toyota dealer and we prowled the lot. There were a number of '84 & '85 Corolla's on the lot (the boxy style), but then I found an '85 Accord LX hatchback with less than 17K on the clock. 5-speed, burgundy outside and inside, A/C and the louvers over the rear window. Sold! I think I paid $8500 for it. A buddy of mine and I drove that car from California to Michigan and back in the fall of 1986. Best tank of gas was something like 44 MPG in New Mexico. I think all I ever did to it was regular maintenance - I may have had to put on a new set of tires, but I honestly can't remember. Traded it in on an '88 Isuzu Trooper for, I think, $5500 or so. Or maybe the car had 55K on the odometer. Sheesh - it's been 20 years since that happened. I know I got a pretty good trade in value from the Isuzu dealer.
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by husker13 on Thu Nov 06 10:56:39 PST 2008
Hello everybody, this is my first post...i recently purchased an 08 element EX awd (gray) on Oct. 15, 2008...The sticker price was 23,860 but my cost was only 20,200 plus doc fee of 200 for a total of 20,400 excluding taxes and plates...The dealer said the mark-up was only about 1600 and there was dealer cash of a 1000. There was no trade. I sold toyotas for 2 years and learned alot about the car business during that time...Many times I sold vehicles for well under invoice, sometimes even under holdback...To get these kinda deals everything had to fall into place just right...For example, year-end model, slow day, manager's mood, they need to move a car for future allocations...However, it never failed the biggest winners were the shoppers who were either threatening to go outta town for a better deal or had just driven quite along way to get a better deal than what they found in their hometown. And while the internet is a great way to get a good price you will still get the best price negotiating in person. Here's how it all went down...I live in Omaha and got my best price at all three locations, the best quote was 20,860..The quotes varied by as much as 700 between those three..I then went to Williamson Honda in Lincoln(50 miles away) and they matched my best price in Omaha...Still not satisfied (I know traveled miles equates to dollars saved), I called a Honda dealer in St. Joseph, MO and told them the price I was trying to beat, they essentially said they could match it and I asked them if they could beat it, to my surprise they said yes by a couple hundred dollars and the next day I drove down(about 150 miles)...Being in the car business before I wasn't going to settle for their quote of 20,660, so after driving the element we went inside and I told them during the presentation of numbers that the total I was willing to pay was 20,400 including the doc fee ( find out what the doc fee is before making your offer)...It took a while but they eventually accepted my offer especially knowing if I left they would never see me again... remember, never act to eager!!!
High speed commuter train in CA
by michaell on Thu Nov 06 09:59:42 PST 2008
While I applaud the intent of the visionaries to begin the planning process, I have a few questions: 1) Will this be built from the ground up, or will it attempt to use existing rail lines? 2) If the answer to #1 is "from the ground up", I cannot begin to imagine the problems with acquiring the right-of-way to build this rail line. The sheer number of local governments (city and county) that would have to give approval is mind-boggling. 3) Like Gary pointed out above, unless the cost of a ticket is equal to or less than an airline ticket between LA and SF, it's unlikely that there will be much adoption. Now, having said that, my folks live in CA and use the train frequently from their hometown north of LA to San Diego to see my sister and her family. Yes, it takes longer than it does to drive, but as my folks are in their 70's, the relaxed experience makes it worth their while.
Sent the email quote request carpetbomb Friday (10/24)
by 07exlres on Mon Oct 27 08:20:41 PDT 2008
Seeking prices for a 2009 Fit Sport MT. MSRP is $16730 incl dest. The best offer I have received is $16,683, inclusive of all fees, but NOT including taxes. I have a small handful of offers within a few hundred $$$ of this price. It would appear that a few dealers in my area (Alabama) are willing to accept a couple hundred dollars below MSRP, fees included. Most of the dealers will not go below MSRP plus their fees (~$17,000 or more). MT's are hard to come by, too. I have only found one dealer that had an MT Sport in stock. Luckily, it was in my hometown and I was able to test drive it Saturday. I plan to go for best and final offers from the lowest bidders this week and close by Oct. 31st. Out-the-door should be ~$17,300 or less. Will update as things progress.
Re: [xostnot]
by budman3 on Tue Oct 14 11:04:25 PDT 2008
xostnot, I know there is a TSB on the rear brake squeal. Unfortunately I threw out ALL my service invoices when we so happily saw the ol GV drive away from our house. The one good thing about our hometown dealer was that they would look up all technical service bulletins or recalls before performing any work. Not bad since we didn't even purchase the GV from this dealer. I highly doubt any warped rotor or drum would cause the squeal. A squeal or squeak is actually a high pitched vibration. It is cured by chamfering the edges of front pads or rear shoes. The problem you are having, as I was told, was the rear shoes being too large for the drum. It is very annoying to have manufacturers fight you when you have a legitimate complaint. Isn't that why they call it a bumper to bumper warranty?

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