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by meglassakt on Tue Nov 18 10:28:46 PST 2008
General Wesley Clark, New York Times: “What’s good for GM is good for the Army” “[W]e must act: aiding the American automobile industry is not only an economic imperative, but also a national security imperative… “[A]s Detroit moves to plug-in hybrids and electric-drive technology…automakers are developing innovative electric motors, many with permanent magnet technology, that will have immediate military use. And only the auto industry, with its vast purchasing power, is able to establish a domestic advanced battery industry. Likewise, domestic fuel cell production — which will undoubtedly have many critical military applications — depends on a vibrant car industry.” New York Times, Nov. 16, 2008 The real General has spoken iluvmysephia1 ~Those of your against the Big 3 are under some kind of hypnosis~ GM and the Big 3 under normal conditions pays dividends.., sponsors more.., contributes more.., pays more taxes and bails out more than any other.., and yes the Big 3 would bailout the government if needed - All positive - so it pays to help the Big 3
Re: keep [stickguy]
by kirstie_h on Tue Nov 18 10:15:48 PST 2008
The good news is that this is a really interesting conversation, and on-topic! The bad news: Not for this discussion. Your comments, especially from the salesfolk, would add a new perspective to Do you favor a government loan to the Big 3? We'd very much appreciate keeping this topic for sales stories and taking the bail-out conversation to the linked discussion. Thanks, The management
Re: Other Way Around. [allmet33]
by captain2 on Tue Nov 18 09:26:13 PST 2008
well there are still a few of us around that were in diapers BEFORE they became disposable. ;) As a testimony to how far we have come - many of the cars on this group - call them family sedans or whatever, will easily run with many of those big V8 honkers of 40+ years ago - and consume half the gas doing it!
bad news from D.C
by Mr_Shiftright on Tue Nov 18 09:25:52 PST 2008
Paulson is telling the Big Three to take a hike apparently. No Soup For You!
Re: UAW contract... [grbeck]
by gmctruck on Tue Nov 18 09:19:09 PST 2008
The government has to be very careful how much "help" they give to the once big 3 because there are other automakers manufacturing cars in the US now, unlike back when Chrysler got help from the government. It's not like Americans won't have cars to drive tomorrow if any of the big 3 go under. GM has the power to fix it's own problems and do what should have been done years ago by paring down it's product offerings to be more competitive. There will be some fallout, but it's time for GM to bite the bullet and do what it needs to do for survival instead of begging the government for a handout. GM must now adapt or die.
lemko...
by iluvmysephia1 on Tue Nov 18 09:15:05 PST 2008
this is simply a supply and demand production thing here. Most of us middle-aged population here in the States feel like The General has been dead and dereft of creativity for about 40 years. We don't feel the Big Guy has our best interests at heart by any stretch. Product has been tolerable but doesn't light our fire. I say no to a bailout for the States. Maybe SAIC of China(their Chinese build partner)can purchase bits and pieces of GM, including some experts who don't mind moving to China, and work to build for the burgeoning car-buying public there. Beggars can't be choosy, eh?

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