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Re: In retrospect... [imidazol97]
by andre1969 on Sat Nov 08 14:03:59 PST 2008
Actually, for its class, that '76-77 era Cutlass was probably the best car there was! Chrysler was having problems with Lean Burn and haphazard workmanship on its Charger S/E and Cordoba, and the old Torino Elite and '77-79 T-birds and Cougar XR-7's were nothing to write home about. Troublesome carburetors, grossly underpowered engines, etc. Even among its GM peers, the Cutlass Supreme was probably the best. The Monte Carlo's 305, 350, and 400 smallblock were kinda junky compared to the Olds 350/403. The Grand Prix 350/400 were okay, but didn't take well to emissions controls, which could make them cranky, and let's not bring up the Pontiac 301! I think the Regal from that era was decent, but I just prefer the Cutlass, and judging from sales, most buyers back then did, too. That '91-96 era Park Ave was one of GM's better efforts from that timeframe. I remember C&D or MT giving it good press when it first came out. The tagline was "America fights back...with a BUICK?!" They liked the car overall, and said its styling was faintly Jaguaresque. The 70's is a decade that was generally reviled, but I think GM actually made some of the better cars of that timeframe. Now sure, a Vega or Chevette was crap, but so was a Rabbit, Accord, or Corolla back then. They weren't crap compared to a Chevette or Vega, but in the overall scheme ofthings, they were still crap! :P I'll admit that I do have a preference for some Mopars of that era. For instance, I'd tend to prefer the Dart/Valiant to the Nova, and I'd prefer something like a '79 Newport to a '79 LeSabre. I think Chrysler did compacts a bit better than GM back then, although when the Aspen/Volare came out it leveled the playing field somewhat. :blush: And with a LeSabre versus Newport, it's not that I think the Newport is a superior car, but just feels more comfortable and fits me better. With smaller engines, the Newport would probably be better. Slant six versus the Buick 231, or a 318 versus a Pontiac 301, I'd give the nod to Mopar. But with bigger engines, the field got leveled. The Mopar 360 was a good engine, but so was the Buick 350. The Olds 403 was still around in 1979, but I don't know if you could still get it in a LeSabre. It might have been Electra-only by then. The Newport also gave you some nice little details like extra gauges standard (temp, amps, oil pressure). I don't think extra gauges were even offered on the LeSabre, although they were on the Delta, Catalina/Bonneville, and Chevies. Oh, and windows that rolled down about 3/4 of the way in back, versus about half-way for the LeSabre. :P The LeSabre had better fit and finish, and was less likely to have trim parts fall off, but the Newport was more solid underneath, being based on the '71-79 intermediates rather than a whole new lightweight design, so the Newport would probably win in a demolition derby, if that's a priority for you.
Re: Italian Red> [andys120]
by kyfdx on Tue Nov 04 19:28:57 PST 2008
It reminds me of my Soap Box Derby car, c.a. 1970.. :surprise:
Re: Today's Fill-Up... [jae5]
by larsb on Tue Oct 21 07:14:37 PDT 2008
jae5 says, "For my drive it is getting worse and worse each day, where more people are tailgating, driving like bats-out-of-hell and doing the red-light to red-light derby. Talk about short memories." EXACTLY. That's just another example of why the lower prices are not good for America. I hope prices stabilize soon.
Today's Fill-Up...
by jae5 on Tue Oct 21 05:04:13 PDT 2008
was for $2.95/gal for 87 octane. The other couple of stations were $2.96 & $2.97. Once past them the normal prices for everyone else were in the $3.16 range for 87 octane. Question: Since petrol prices have dropped has more and more people on your drives / commutes been reverting back to their speed-demon ways? For my drive it is getting worse and worse each day, where more people are tailgating, driving like bats-out-of-hell and doing the red-light to red-light derby. Talk about short memories :confuse:
Re: . [fintail] HUH>? [boomchek]
by Mr_Shiftright on Fri Sep 26 20:39:55 PDT 2008
Audi cabrio --- as boring a car as you'll ever drive. The excitement of a rental car. 78 Cougar -- demo derby, here we come. Fear no man. The Cordoba always reminded me of two cars from different manufacturers welded together. At least in profile. A Chevford. A Plymobile. 57 Hillman-- to be placed in a container and sent to UK, where rust repair is thought of as general annual maintenance and where a Hillman gets some (modest) respect. 63 Benz Diesel -- how slow can you go? charming in its own way--is that color original? Only downside---the engine is very rough and very noisy. It's the hammers of hell in there. I'd pay $1,500 for it, not a penny more. 67 MGB GT -- great year, has overdrive and minilites---it just *might* be worth restoring. Too bad it's refrigerator white, but if you're taking her down to bare metal, you could change that. Potentially worth $20K in show condition. You could break out even if you did everything yourself. But you're talking hundreds and hundreds of hours here. Maybe just go buy one?
Re: Salesman [mackabee]
by oldfarmer50 on Wed Aug 27 10:16:23 PDT 2008
"...If we really told you the whole truth about what goes on in the car business you'd never step into another dealership the rest of your life..." Go ahead, tell me. With my finances I'll probably never step in there again any way. :cry: Now if you're referring to the double secret handshake bonus money, the 10K profit on each car or the use of every new car in the salesmen's Demo Derby, we already know about that. ;)

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