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Re: So it's 2009... [dave8697]

by circlew on Tue Sep 30 18:24:47 PDT 2008

Made by GM's Holden Division in Australia. Company Name GM Holden Ltd Head Office 191 Salmon Street Port Melbourne Victoria 3207 Telephone: 03 9647 1111 Facsimile: 03 9647 2550 www.holden.com.au GPO Box 1714 Melbourne Vic 3001 Main Business Manufacture and distribution of motor vehicles, engines, components and parts. Parent Company General Motors Corporation, Detroit, Michigan, USA. Facilities Head Office and Design & Engineering Centre Design; engineering; national sales and marketing; customer satisfaction and quality; finance; human resources; product, business and strategic planning; purchasing and logistics; corporate affairs; legal; information systems and services; vehicle line executive group. Location: Port Melbourne, Victoria. GM Holden Vehicle Manufacturing Operations Plastics, body tool design, stamping, sheet metal and body fabrication, paint and vehicle assembly. Location: Elizabeth, South Australia. GM Holden Engine Manufacturing Operations Manufacture and assembly operations for Family II four-cylinder and six-cylinder engines, foundry and component manufacturing facilities. Location: Port Melbourne, Victoria. GM Holden Service Parts Operations Distribution and marketing of Holden service parts and accessories for the Holden Dealer Network and international customers. Location: Dandenong, Victoria. Automotive Proving Ground Vehicle development, durability testing, safety test centre and exhaust emission facility. Location: Lang Lang, Victoria. GM Holden Innovation Identifies future consumer needs and develops products, technologies and skills for Holden to compete in global markets. Its activities encompass initiatives such as safety, in-car IT systems and alternative propulsion systems. Location: Port Melbourne, Victoria. State Sales Offices Provide a direct interface between GM Holden and its Dealer Network, giving support in the areas of fleet sales, service and parts. Locations: Victoria, New South Wales, South Australia, Queensland and Western Australia. Employment: 6500 (as at November 2007) 2008 product range: Passenger Vehicles Holden Caprice, Statesman, Calais, Berlina, Commodore range, Sportwagon range, Astra range, Viva, Barina, Epica. Sports Utility Vehicles Captiva. Light Commercial Vehicles Holden Ute, Crewman, Colorado, Combo. Engines Global V6, Gen 4 V8, Family II four cylinder. Vehicles Exported Commodore models were exported under the GM brands of Chevrolet, Pontiac and Holden to Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Oman, Lebanon, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait, Yemen, Jordan, New Zealand, Brazil, North America, Fiji, Brunei and South Africa. Statesman/Caprice models were exported to Middle East regions and New Zealand. Regards, OW

Re: 2008 Audi A4 Special Edition Lease in Socal [joffej]

by jdunnisher on Thu Jun 12 19:24:42 PDT 2008

joffej, There are many others in this forum that can dispense helpful advice, I just happened to have a great buying experience with a specific SoCal Audi dealer, which I shared with the group. That being said, I'm happy to help in any way that I can. I think the deal that you can get will depend a lot on your area and being able to find a dealer that will meet your price. By reading through the posts in this forum, I think you'll be able to get a good idea of what you should expect to pay for your new car. The fact that you're willing to travel outside of your immediate area will expand the number of dealers you can work with, and should increase your chances of finding a price that you're happy with. With '09 models hitting the lots soon, you should be able to get a pretty aggressive price on an '08. If it comes down to a matter of a few dollars, I would recommend going with the dealer that you feel the most comfortable working with. For me personally, this was the biggest factor in my decision... not that I may have shaved a dollar or two off my payment by jumping through hoops at another dealership. One thing to be aware of is the documentation fees. In California, these are capped at $55. However, I've read in a number of places that dealers in South Florida charge upwards of $500-600 for these fees. Most dealerships will not budge on these, so be cognizant of that when negotiating your price. It's tough to speculate how low your local dealers will be willing to go, or what they'll throw in to get a deal done. The only way to know for sure is to contact them with a price in mind and go from there. So if you're looking to lease in the next 4 days, I'd suggest you get started. Let me know if you have any other questions. --Jordan

I totally agree with the new world order new car

by iluvmysephia1 on Thu Jul 19 09:16:27 PDT 2007

standard. It rocks! Kia and Hyundai have been embattled in the past but look at them now. Funny thing is, I saw this acceptance coming years ago. While driving my '99 Kia Sephia I got a re-kindling of the fun of driving my '65 Ford Mustang. I did have to put 70,000 mile Yokohama radials and Konig Diva wheels on the little 4-door sedan until this feeling struck me, though. Once I had it in my mind that these South Koreans had it spot-on I knew that I could shop for my next new Kia. I intended on buying a 2002 Kia Spectra that I had researched on the net for months but on buy-day my wife saw the new Kia 4-door and said this: "I don't want another little car." "Are you sure?", I asked. My months of research were being tossed out the window like a McDonald's cheeseburger wrapper. "Yes!", she replied. "Umm...oh..ok. Let's keep looking," I mused. It was over to the Sportage's and a brief sit in the 2002 Kia Rio Cinco wagon. "What'd'ya think about the Rio Cinco? It's been refreshed for the 2002 model year?" "It's too small" came her reply. She ran over to the Sportage's. It was September of 2001 and Jerry Smith Kia of Anacortes, WA, wanted to move the "old" new Sportsman's off their lot. The rest is history. "I've always loved Kia Sportage's!" my wife exclaimed. "OK, let's take it for a spin!" The deal was excellent and the trade-in was generous from Jerry Smith Kia. That's where I had bought my '99 Kia Sephia in May of 1999. The violet mist 5-speed Sephia ran me a rough and tumble $7,995 after a $2,000 Kia rebate. When Hyundai and Kia announced their 10 year, 100,000 mile Long-Haul Warranty round about that time, I knew that the two would rebound from some early American misgivings from the Hyundai Excel days and shine brightly. I would definitely ponder another Kia purchase or Hyundai purchase in the future. But the point I'm taking my time heading to is that now one can buy a new car and that new car is by and large going to be a fine car. Would I consider an American car purchase? Possible a new Chery-built Dodge Hornet. This car will be watched by me like Gary Payton guarding Kobe Bryant when Gary was in his prime. Michael Jordan and Gary Payton are your two finest guards ever in NBA history. Kobe was fresh meat for Gary to pick-pocket when he(Kobe) entered the NBA. Chery will have to provide proof in their pudding, though, before I would part with any Yankee greenbacks for one. I like the early Hornet design and my growing love for my '08 Lancer GTS definitely gets in the way of trading it in for a smaller, unproven, Chinese-built Hornet for Dodge. But I will read up on it's early drive-tests. Immense pressure is sitting on Chery's head right now. Cerberus' board of directors will demand perfection and on-time perfection. I think Chery will rise to the challenge but I would not want to be a Chery factory worker or even graphics-engineer right now. We worked so much overtime on Boeing's 767-400 that we were basically living at Boeing's Everett plant. We really got to know our co-workers, let me tell you. Chery workers will be pushed, prodded and picked at in the coming months and stress will reign as king. I think they'll get the cars out but they won't offer the good gas mileage that the Prius or Smart For offer. The Hornet is small but weight will play in to its normal gas mileage figures. Suicide doors making it to production? Something tells me no on that one. :P

Oh the environmentalists in Washington state

by iluvmysephia1 on Sat Jun 02 22:49:26 PDT 2007

would be fuming about all the salmon killed off by the hydroelectric dams. They'd get that power from Olympia surging and shut down the dams. Funny, it's not important to save the Seattle Sonics from Clay Bennett and his OK City cronies. Even though they'll get either the Oden kid(the taller player, a legit center)or Kevin Durant, a 6'10" shooting wing forward, two college players going pro that have been compared to Michael Jordan and Hakeem Olajuwon's draft year, when they went pro. No kidding, this is huge for Seattle and the Sonics. Instead they're turning their noses up and playing ignorant political games and challenging anyone with common sense to fight in frustration to try and save the Sonics. The Pacific NW is full of uptight taxpayers who hate supporting pro sports stadiums, it really infuriates them badly. I just feel that a bb team that arrived in 1966 that has a lot of exciting history...and entertained hundreds of thousands of people should be saved from a life of utter boredom in OK City. Eyukoo! The people of Idaho(a right to work state)are very ...ummm...fundamental. So are people in another rural state I lived in, South Dakota. Keeping it natural is a great thing to them. Global warming couldn't touch Pocatello, it's literally locked in ice for about 6-7 months and cold and windy for another month or two. It is nice when it finally breaks out in sunshine for a while. Same is true of Seattle but Seattle's problem is not extreme cold it's extreme gray cloudy coverings...drizzly, gray days. Seasonal affective disorder reigns supreme there. Green River killers, Ted Bundy, et al. It is a creative area for musicians. Incredible musical talent has come out of Seattle and the Pacific NW. That scene I do miss greatly.

That is what remains to be seen...

by iluvmysephia1 on Tue Aug 15 17:49:19 PDT 2006

can the Chinese imports pass the mechanical performance tests? Will they perform well and continue to perform well under different driving conditions and different scenarios? Having said that, buying a Chinese car would be no different to me than buying a South Korean car or a Japanese car. If I buy a Japanese car that doesn't mean I support the Japanese government. Yes, Scion will get the cash but I'm buying the car, not a voice in their governmental ideology. That's absurd. Gary Payton is a better overall basketball player than Michael Jordan, IMO. Jordan could never match Gary's intensities in 30 cities. Gary passed better and played better defense. Granted, Michael was phenomenal on offense, but overall GP is a better BB player, IMHO. But opinions are like noses. Everyone has one. :surprise:

Re: Guess what... [giantkiller]

by truethat on Sat Aug 05 13:50:23 PDT 2006

India Hyundai is No.2 carmaker after Maruti Russia Hyundai is No.1 ahead of Toyota and Ford Those are pretty dominating performances, don't you think? Other (smaller) countries with Hyundai as No.1 market share Egypt, Jordan, Israel, Algeria, South Africa Let's face it, you're wrong on this one.