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by sjd_boston on Thu Oct 09 07:14:25 PDT 2008

I just snagged an 08 Outback 2.5i LL Bean Limited with VDC and NAV for 25,500 at Planet Subaru in Hanover, MA it had under 100 miles on it and was considered used.. Subaru had set aside a number of LLB cars to be Exec Demo's. They were never deployed for use. Once they broke the marketing agreement with LLB, they could no longer use the cars are demo's (has something to due with advertising restrictions). Subaru then autioned these cars off to dealers. If you due a search on Yahoo Auto's for used 2008's you will see these at a few dealers with less the 200 miles (sort by mileage). Planet has another 08 Outback 2.5i LLB (non-limited = no leather, but does have NAV) for around 21K. Dealer was top notch also. I purchased the car over the phone from Europe. Wife and kids came into Logan and were met by the dealer. They took them to the dealership and they left 20 minutes later in the new car.

Re: No [1stpik]

by andys120 on Sat Sep 06 10:45:22 PDT 2008

Your point about mileage is a good one, I haven't seen a good citation concerning the relative fuel efficiencies of gas vs diesel vs CNG in vehicular use. If it were 10-15% less efficient it might be a worthwhile alternative depending on pricing. The fact is that there already thousands of vehicles running on CNG, due to the lack of infrastructure, most are in municipal vehicles, transit systems and commercial fleets. When I was in Mesa AZ (pop 432,000) I noticed that almost all city-owned vehicles were CNG including the cop cars. The real question in my mind is exactly how large are domestic reserves? They aren't large in relative terms, most NG reserves are in Russia and the Middle East. There are plenty of non-vehicular uses for it, NG is the most common heating fuel in America and it powers the majority of our electrical plants where it's favored because it burns cleaner than coal (I'll address nuclear later). We do in fact already import a good deal of gas, every three months or so the USCG bars all movement in Boston Harbor in order to prevent sabotage or damage to gi-normous LNG tanker coming in from Algeria. Tanker entering Boston Harbor with East Boston and Logan airport ahead, the Zakim Bridge to Charlestown behind> Everett Ma, 6 or 7 miles from Downtown Boston> Nice view from those condos, eh? I don't deny that CNG might be a part of any comprehensive energy solution but we'd better take a good look at it before we by the contentions of the industry at face value, It's the same-quasi-monopolistic industry that controls the gasoline, heating oil and diesel markets. I feel similarly about nuclear and all-electric cars. Nuclear plants can be clean and safe. I know guys who've worked with it in US Naval warships but their are tremendous waste disposal problems associated with it. I support it for now but it's a deal w the Devil. We are likely many decades away from all-electric cars as real alternatives to vehicles as we now use them.

Re: Portable GPS with Voice Recognition [bwia]

by amauhry on Sun Jun 29 18:39:02 PDT 2008

Please do not misunderstand me. The Avalon’s GPS is not perfect, and the lack of proper documentation makes it even less perfect. If Toyota issues a good manual with everything there is to know about the GPS there will not be so much grievance about its performance. Any portable GPS like TomTom, Nuvi and the likes are not perfect either. If you want to see these devices fail miserably, try to find your way out of the Sumner Tunnel or Callahan Tunnel in Boston City, MA, (especially if you are heading to Logan International) assuming you don’t know your way around. All of these tiny devices go dead under the Lincoln and Holland tunnels in New York City as well; a weak point where the Avalon’s system excels. Again my point is, nothing is perfect. Many complaints about the Avalon’s GPS and I fully understand why. To me it is almost perfect because I understand it, and it has never failed me so far. Almost perfect because I did notice a glitch (no wonder Toyota honored my complaint to my full satisfaction). Amaury '08 Limited

I have to admit...

by andre1969 on Mon Jun 09 15:01:29 PDT 2008

I was a bit nervous when I first bought my '76 LeMans. It was out in the outskirts of Cincinnati, about 500 miles away. Honestly, I didn't give it any thought at first...until I signed the paperwork and it was officially mine, and the seller and I parted ways; and it suddenly hit me that here I was, 500 miles away from home, with a car that came out the same time as "Logan's Run", and whose prior history I really had no knowledge of. Fortunately, it made the trip home with no issues at all. I think if I had some old car I had been using as a daily driver for years, where I really knew the ins and outs and all its quirks, I might be willing to trust it to more heavy-duty driving. For instance, with my '79 5th Ave, I've had it for 6 1/2 years now, driven it the 100+ miles to Carlisle multiple times, and pretty much know its quirks. This other New Yorker I bought, though, sat around for several years after the original owner died. His son, who inherited the car, rarely drove it. In the year before I bought it, it only went about 10 miles...to the gas station for its annual inspection and back home! Oh, and then, back to the station the following year, which is where it was when Grbeck saw it, and told me about it. When I went up to buy it and pick it up, I brought jumper cables, antifreeze, oil, transmission fluid, and an extra battery! I couldn't find any starting fluid, but did bring a can of carb cleaner. It said "highly flammable" on it, so I figured it would do the trick. :shades: Luckily I didn't need any of those things...well other than the carb cleaner, when it did get a little cranky up there. Once I get the belts and hoses changed, tranny serviced, coolant flushed, etc, and as long as I know its hot-start issues are behind me, I think I'd trust the car. Now I would't try something like running it from here to Texas in a day, like I did a couple times with my Intrepid. And if I did take a trip, I'd make sure to bring along extra coolant, oil, etc. Heck, I relied on my '68 Dart as my primary transportation from April 3, 1992 (I remember the date because it was the day after my 22nd birthday) until late April, 2007. It had 252,000 miles on it when I bought it, and probably around 335-336K by that time, which was when I got my '79 Newport on the road. I had taken that car out to Oklahoma and back on one trip, Ohio and back on another, been up to PA multiple times, and spent about a year delivering pizzas with it. It would probably still be running, if I hadn't let it sit around so long. Sometime in late 2001, it refused to start. It was probably something minor like the fuel pump. Only thing is, I didn't have the time or money to mess with it at the time. So I let it sit. And sit. It sat in my grandmother's yard for awhile, and then when I got the place across the street, I dragged it over there with my truck. And then moved it around in the yard a few times. At one point it would start up if you poured gas down the carb, and then die once that burned off. Then it wouldn't do that anymore. And then it lost its brake pressure. And rust, like cancer, never sleeps, and just got worse over the years. I'm convinced that, if I had fixed whatever was wrong with that Dart at the time, it would still be running today. Heck, the engine does still turn over. But after having the thing since 1992, and having had another in 1989, I'm sorta Darted out. I sat in it the other day though, just to reminisce. And I swear, for my body at least, that thing is more comfy and roomier in the driver's seat than most modern cars! Now that I think back on it, that Dart died a couple months after I bought the 5th Ave. Maybe it got jealous? :surprise:

Re: Wagon> [andys120]

by magnette on Tue Jun 03 05:48:43 PDT 2008

Dacia Logan

More roads more traffic?

by trispec on Sun May 25 17:46:17 PDT 2008

Came to the Boston metro region in Oct 1988. No "Big Digg" yet, but the promises of the wonders that the "Big Digg" would bring were in full swing in the press. No more rush hour traffic, city streets unclogged, and commute time cut in half. On top of these road miracles, Mass Transit was going to improve and modernize, including Acela high speed rail. Twenty years later, all the projects are finished, everything is deployed and running. Nothing has changed accept getting to the Logon Airport and back is easier if you make all the correct exits (four going and three returning). BTW Logan Airport is getting the worst customer satisfaction ratings ever. What happen, is that the economy essentially lets more regular folks by more cars. For twenty years people kept buy more cars because the promises of better traffic conditions was held there like a carrot. When I came to Boston twenty years ago, junker city cars were everywhere. No body was going to buy an keep a nice car in Boston city limits. That was a crazy idea. I don't even see junkers anymore. I see tens of thousands of Prius's and Minis, Camerys and BMW 3 series, not cheap stuff. Twenty years ago, the street I live on always had plenty of street parking spots. Today, there are no more houses, but serious arguments regularly breakout over just a few feet of street space. During snow emergency conditions, despite threats by Mayor Manino, who lives in my neighborhood, people claim their dug out car spots jealously. The city is simply bursting with to many cars. And it's getting much worse faster. The belt way around the Boston area, 128, can go grid lock condition both directions at any time day or night. Twenty years ago, 128 was never full accept at the the major exchanges for 90, 93, or 95.