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Re: Worst looking... [guss]
by saablcp on Mon Nov 17 11:15:41 PST 2008
Title of the thread was "worst car" not worst looking or ugliest.My opinion is: based on pre-sale hype and how poorly it fit it's perceived niche and almost universally negative reviews from any journalist who drove the car for more than a day;the winner IS "THE DUMB",oops pardon me,I meant to say "THE SMART CAR". Short of being,in fact "short", the car comes up short in every objective category you judge a car on.and "cute" don't count!
Re:Fuel Mileage[djm2] [thegraduate] [iwant12]
by thegraduate on Mon Nov 17 09:13:45 PST 2008
Looks like the Malibu I4 with the 6 sp trans is the clear winner of the three you listed. Indeed it is. Something to pay attention to though is the Camry's new 2.5L I4, which will debut in a matter of months. It'll offer close to 180hp, and if I had to guess, very competitive fuel economy. Also noteworthy (although not in this particular discussion) is the Nissan Altima 2.5L, which manages the best city in the midsize class (23/32 with the 6-speed stick, 23/31 with the CVT).
Re:Fuel Mileage[djm2] [thegraduate]
by iwant12 on Mon Nov 17 08:47:00 PST 2008
Looks like the Malibu I4 with the 6 sp trans is the clear winner of the three you listed. I wonder if it's made alongside the Saturn Aura at the Kansas plant? If my info is correct, the Aura made with 86% domestic parts (not bad, but we should be able to do a little better perhaps?). I like the Malibu's looks (though I really like the dual exhaust of the V6's) and will put it on my short list for my next auto purchase. (Unless I can get a REALLY great deal on a Vette). :shades:
Re: Also... [circlew]
by gagrice on Sat Nov 15 07:50:01 PST 2008
That was all GM advertising and ended up a big fiasco. The 276 winners had to come up with about $7000 in taxes for the Federal Government. Oprah drives a G500 Mercedes last I read. Probably does the Limo thing most of the time. Oprah is no friend of the Domestics or UAW labor. For a brand new Pontiac G-Six, the model given away on the show, the sticker price is $28,500. The $28,500 would need to be claimed as income so, depending on the individuals tax bracket, the tax could be as high as $7,000. And that was after Pontiac agreed to pay most of the local charges, including state sales tax and licensing fees. The Harpo Spokeswomen said winners had three choices. They could keep the car and pay the tax, sell the car and pay the tax with the profits or forfeit the car. http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/22/news/newsmakers/oprah_car_tax/index.htm
Re: Irritating [dallasdude1]
by gagrice on Sat Nov 15 07:13:07 PST 2008
BMW is another example of a winner who pays far more than the UAW wages. The automakers in Germany are making wage cuts. They are also setting up plants in the old Soviet Bloc countries. And they are all building vehicles in the USA and making money. Germany has an unemployment rate somewhere around 10%. A day earlier, Volkswagen said it would build a new sport utility vehicle at its main plant in Wolfsburg rather than in Portugal, but only after extracting a 20 percent wage reduction from its workers. Germany's overpaid autoworkers Let's see? 20% off of the GM wage package would be somewhere around $58 per hour. Better cut the labor costs by 30% at GM. Then after they pay their debts off they can think about giving the labor and management a raise. Even with the worst case scenario of 3 million jobs lost if the Big 3 goes belly up, we would not have as high unemployment as Germany and most of the EU. That would put our unemployment in the 8.5% range. That is well below the early 1980s when we were close to 10% unemployment. Do you see a pattern?
Re: Irritating [dallasdude1]
by tlong on Fri Nov 14 23:23:17 PST 2008
BMW is another example of a winner who pays far more than the UAW wages. BMW makes great cars. If GM made great cars then perhaps the labor premium would be worth it. The market has spoken and guess what - UAW is not worth it!

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