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Re: Price Paid - Buying Experience [sabrosahindley]
by fitisgo on Sun Apr 13 19:13:26 PDT 2008
One more Honda dealer to consider: Congdon Honda in South Sioux City - about 100 miles north of Omaha/Bellevue in I-29. Documentation fees (as best as I can remember): Honda Cars of Bellevue, $199; O'Daniel Honda in Omaha, $0; Superior Honda in Omaha, $35-40; Williamson Honda in Lincoln, $0; Congdon Honda, don't remember; Cornhusker Honda, don't know-didn't contact them. If you choose to buy a Base Fit instead of a Sport, be aware the Base does not come with cruise control, and adding it afterward could either be expensive for the Honda part or you might get a crappy cruise control from an after-market store. If you look at the Fit brochure at all the equipment/features you get on the Sport for $1200-1300 more than the Base, I think it's worth it. If you don't need cruise control, then maybe the Base model is OK for you. The best price I've been quoted on the Sport Automatic, which has a MSRP of $16,705, is $16,133, which is the published/widely known "dealer invoice" price. Another thing to remember is that there is a credit the dealer gets from the factory when they sell the vehicle, called the holdback, that is equal to 3% of the MSRP of the vehicle (about $500 on the Sport Automatic, probably $450 on the Base Automatic). So even if you get the car at Invoice (which is not easy to do, but can be done), the dealer and the salesperson still make a little $. Find out the Invoice price for the Base Automatic (you can get this at Edmunds.com), then try to negotiate a price in the range of Invoice to Invoice + about $200, and you'll get a good deal. Also, if you buy from a dealer with no documentation fee, that's more $ saved.
Re: MPG [s2khah]
by xcel on Wed Jan 11 07:37:09 PST 2006
Hi S2khah: As has been previously stated, a block heater will help to remove some of the (½ the average FE over the first 1 - 3 miles) FE hit. It will not cure it by any stretch of the imagination. As for a large portion of AH owners not subjected to less then 32 degrees F, about half the country (geographically) is subjected to these types of temperatures during mid-winter for months of the year. It is not just 32 degrees either. Below 70 degrees F, there is a hit. And 50, and 30, and 10, and so on and so on. The FE hit does not happen at discrete temps of course but is a steady decline as the Mercury plummets unfortunately for us all. Here in Chicago, our average daily Hi/Lo temps in the winter months are as follows: Dec.: 24/37 Jan.: 18/32 Feb.: 24/38 Mar.: 32/47 Chicago has a somewhat temperate climate given its proximity to Lake Michigan which acts as a huge buffer to the extremes. A city like Des Moines, IA., Rockford, IL., Madison, WI., Minneapolis, MN. Sioux Falls, SD., Bismarck, ND, many towns and cities in the upper elevations of the Rockies and Pacific Northwest, much of the upper North East, etc. are subjected to even lower average temperatures in the winter months. As for the green thing to do, might I recommend a particular website where the hypermilers spend most of their time? You can do much more for the environment with your right foot, eyes, and brain then you will ever be able to achieve with an engine block heater. About all I can add is trust me on this and consider what is posted below to find out more ;) Good Luck Wayne R. Gerdes
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by dako_tian on Tue Feb 03 07:40:21 PST 2004
I solved the problem by moving to a warm enough climate and keep my vehicles in the garage. Of course, someone has to live up North, I suppose. Though, for the life of me, I've never been able to figure out why!? ;-) (I was born in Hawaii which ruined me for life, even though we left there before I was 3. Years growing up in Kansas City area and then, much worse, Sioux City, IA, taught me that Winter just meant freezing my patooty off. A purgatory spent in South Bend, IN, simply confirmed the conclusion.) Strangely, the Town Hall spell checker did not recognize the word "patooty." Go figure.....
03 ZTW Status Report
by rapidrick on Tue Dec 30 00:55:14 PST 2003
Picked up in AZ end of Sep. Putted around town for a week then flamed up to Overguard with 4 adults + luggage in tow. Poor ZETEC was straining in the mountains with the AC on, but soldiered on. Back to Phoenix, then off to Flagstaff for a couple days, down to Sedona for a couple more and then over the "mountain" to Prescott and back to Phoenix. No probs, great ride, nice and sticky with the 16 inch tires. End of October, road trip to North Dakota. Phoenix to Albuquerque: great cruise, but couldn't get into hotel, due to tanker crash out front. Holiday Inn Express set me up, though. Albq to Colorado Springs: first taste of kinda cold weather, in enemy territory with all the evil bronco fans. CS to Ogalla NB: leaving bronco territory and getting into a nice, clean state like Nebraska was cool. Go big red. Not much for scenery, but weather was pretty nice. Horrid, greasy food in Ogalla (did I mention greasy?) Ogalla to Sioux City: more Nebraska, then rain and cold. Wind picked up the next day driving up to Grand Forks. VERY WINDY and cool. Anyway, a couple months later and the "Silver Bullet" (e-gad, that sounds SOOO Coorsish--"I can't taste my light beer!"...) runs like a top, has a new ski rack for my XC skis and a new cargo net on the way. Installing the block heater was a goat rope, but glad I got that done (I believe it is 1 outside right now...) The 16 inch P6s handle fabulous in the ice/snow (BIG SURPRISE), so no need for snow tires. The heated seats are, well, the heat. Got a couple rattles I need to isolate and fix, but so far, so good (5k miles). I'm out.

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