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Re: Just goes to prove [tidester]

by duke23 on Thu Jul 24 19:17:13 PDT 2008

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Abstract/FREE Full Text ↵Cicerone RJ (2006) Clim Change 77:221–226. CrossRef ↵Crutzen PJ (2006) Clim Change 77:211–219. CrossRef http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/temperature-change.html Downloaded Thursday, 24-Jul-2008 21:43:43 EDT The present day is at the far right of the chart. What do we see? First of all, there’s quite a bit of fluctuation. There are long periods of time when the average global temperature was as much as 9 C degrees (16 F degrees) colder than now. These were ice ages. Much of the northern part of the world was covered with thick sheets of ice, much like we see today in Greenland and Antarctica. The most recent ice age ended about 12,000 years ago. There were also times when it was warmer than today. On the whole, we are in a relatively warm period. What causes these changes in climate? There are many factors. Even Industry.link title And to be totally fair, here's even a reference for your argument from those idiots at MIT. 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back to the snow video

by jeqq on Fri Feb 15 08:05:08 PST 2008

cross post - years ago from the chrysler 300 forum. I believe Audi's snow video but do you believe Chrysler's? I do not. Here's the link. http://www.dcxmediaservices.com/videoptrs/wms/dctv/Mar04/Houghton_Ride_Drive_300- k.wvx

Re: Upper Peninsula - Holland [rsholland]

by w8ifi on Fri Feb 16 18:35:25 PST 2007

In the snow belt along the lake from Houghton thru Negaunee, Marquette and Munising there are a fair amount of subies. A few years ago our Iron River office had 13 people and 5 subie owners amongst them. There is only one dealer in the U.P. I know of and that is in Marquette.I think it may have changed hands in the last few months. Good sales staff but heard some grumbles from my co-workers about the service department. So I've had my work done in Schofield wisconsin. About 150 miles due south. If you go due east on US-2 from Ironwood you'll pass thru Watersmeet(50 miles) and then Iron River(85 miles from Ironwood) then Crystal Falls (100 miles) then Iron Mountain(130 miles). I talked to my chrysler dealer about taking on the subaru line but subaru wouldn't go for it. He had a nice new facility too. I still think if subaru allowed more dealers they would really improve sales. Jim

Taurus Rising II

by douglasr on Sat Feb 10 20:01:15 PST 2007

"If you deliver only what the customer wants at the moment, somebody else is going to blow you away with something that goes beyond your product, or service, in quality, or innovation..." Don Petersen recounted in his memoirs about the original Taurus program that took six years to develop---and the 1983 T-Bird was a by-product of that program. Petersen left his "team" headed by Louis Veraldi alone from start to finish, working with Jack Telnack to create the Taurus. They managed to incorporate more than 400 desirable features into the Taurus in order to compete against the competition. They set the stage for the marketplace when the car was introduced. A unique Ford Motor product that you could not buy anywhere else. Plus Taurus had its own unique "signature" styling which the public responded to for many years. This is precisely what Ford Motor must return to. Unique styling, evoqative yes, but a 'Blue Oval' brand of motorcars, and not bland copies of everybody else. That is why BMW and Porsche are so successful today, because they never swerved from the unique product-line and have kept several generations of loyal customers as a result. Mr. Mulally used the Taurus program as an example at Boeing to save that firm from disaster. Boeing regained its sales leadership against Air-Bus as a result---the Air-Bus Chief Christian Strief having resigned over production delays of the big 550 seat jumbo jet and is now sadly "running" Peugot. A fate that did not befall Boeing, Mr. Mulally also going so far as to use production techniques from Willow-Run applied to Boeing for manufacture. No, the public won't be fooled by a rebadging of the 500. But the "500" meant nothing to anyone. People forget that the last time Ford used that name was when it was coupled with the bottom line 'Custom-500' in the 1960's! A car that Jack Webb used in the TV show 'Dragnet' of the same era. Prior to that it had also been the moniker of the 'Galaxie-500' which was once a higher end Ford. So the re-use of the Taurus name, still so resonant with the buyers is a good move. I have not met one person who thought killing the Taurus was a good idea---if anything they were angry about it---driving them to the competition. The car is OK, but needs a motor with another 75Bhp at least to give it some "get-up-and-go". Who wants to drive an underpowered car that can't get out of its own way? Why else did they rebadge the Zephry into the Z when they changed the motor? It would take less than six months for Ford Motor to up-rate the engine. If the engineers are not now testing such are car, they should do what Rudolf Uhlenhaut did in 1968 at Daimler-Benz when he encountered numheadedness in the front office with respect to performance: he secretly stuffed a W100 6.3 Mercedes-Benz V8 "600" motor into the smaller W109 bodyshell, locked the hood, and handed the keys over to his unsuspecting boss for his week-end test-drive. That's how the legendary 300SEL 6.3 got born! (It's also how the Cobra, and Shelby Mustang's came about---stuffing a lot of BHP under the hood!!) This is what Ford Motor engineers need to do today. Take the pieces from the shelf and build some cars with gusto, then ask for foregiveness later. ...and my dear "ARMSMEN"* on the 14th floor of the Glass House: Please STOP, repeat S-T-O-P, copying the old Mercedes monikers "SEL" that you have glued onto Ford Motor products. Nothing makes me scream out loud: "COWARDS" faster than when I see that on the back of a Ford Motor product. Ford does its best when their products are unique, when they act independently with verve and gusto. They did it time and time again between 1946-1969, and rarely after that, with a few hits every-now-and-then. So Ford can still win, but they need to be twice as good as the competition, unique and independent of everyone else. That is what made the Taurus a success, and that was the rubric that Mr. Petersen gave to the rank and file back in 1980 when he took over from Henry Ford II. It was good advice then, and it still stands. Mr. Mulally, are you listening? DouglasR * "ARMSMEN": CEO of Ford Motor: Alan R. Mulally, aka A.R.M., his "troops" thus should be called "ARMSMEN"---just as Earnest Breech brought in the "Whiz Kins" in 1945 at the behest of HF II. ...and "ARMING" them with thought and vision. (sources: 'A Better Idea' Donald E. Petersen, Houghton-Mifflin, NY, 1991; 'Mercedes-Benz V8s' F. Wilson McComb, Motorbooks International 1980)

Re: Underwhelmed [tom_houghton]

by bogeydog on Tue Oct 31 17:20:02 PST 2006

I too am concerned about the seats. I drove the Sport on 2 occassions and found the driver's seat just too narrow despite adjusting the bottom side bolsters to their full open position, Now at 5'-3" and 160, I wouldn't think that I would feel cramped. I don't drive with my legs staight forward, but prefer a more relaxed position. I felt the bolsters digging into my thighs. I also drove the AWD and found the seat much better.

Re: Underwhelmed [rosie108]

by tom_houghton on Tue Oct 31 15:36:47 PST 2006

I just test drove a 2007 G35x and did not experience the accleration or seat adjustment issues that were mentioned. The driver's seat is almost too adjustable. Try it! The car stuck to the road and acclerated like a dream...with great braking! Tom