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Re: Exterior pictures [nexuslexus]

by adel1 on Thu Feb 02 11:27:03 PST 2006

I am interested to have 2007 LEXUS 460L, I would like to know when this Car will be availabile in the California. Also if you have any Information, please send it to me. Do you have any idea about the Price? By the way I owen now 2001 LEXUS LS430 With ultra, We Enjoyed very much, I have also 1999 Mercedes S420, but I Will never Buy MERCEDES again. Thank you. Adel Boutros

Perhaps a little pricey...

by andre1969 on Fri Oct 21 10:25:08 PDT 2005

but I kinda like this pimp-adelic beauty Hard to tell from just the one pic, but this beast looks like it might have some potential. And here's a nice low-mileage, original 1972 Dart Swinger which I think is a bit pricey, but I kinda like it. To me, 1972 was the last year the Dart had any semblance of a sporty flair to it, and the front-end had a nice, aggressive stance to it. For '73 they went for more of a beaky look that tried to look upscale in that typical 70's fashion. Something about this car looks re-painted, though!

Re: signature series [tdbrph]

by mtgman on Thu Feb 03 19:27:02 PST 2005

I had 1 dealer tell me I was not eligible for a lease loyalty rebate of 1K (I was leasing an 02 TC from a bank instead of Chrysler) and I thought she was wrong so I called another dealer (Adel Chysler in Adel Iowa) and he said I was eligible. He essentially matched Des Moines Chrslyer's price (and his van had auto climate and adj. pedals) so I went with him. In the mean time, Des Moines Chrysler kept bugging me and her last message was they could do $339/mo with $339 at signing. I went with 39 months with 12K/yr. Today I got a call from the dealer I bought it from and he said the lease papers were wrong. It should be 20 cents/mile instead of 15/mile on the lease I signed. I told him I'd consider 15k/yr, but I'd be hard pressed to accept 20c/mile when he quoted and I signed 15/ml. I know I'll go over 12/yr, but I'm not taking 20/mile. I hate buying cars. I'm a mortgage broker and it's a lot easier to shop for mortgages than cars. The headphones do come with the van.

Re: Elect Stability control --Camry vs accord safety??? [lmacmil]

by peterpan on Tue Dec 07 18:35:55 PST 2004

http://www.esccoalition.com/what_experts_say/index.shtml Industry experts agree: Electronic Stability Control (ESC) is an important safety feature to consider when buying a new vehicle. Experts praise ESC for its ability to prevent skids, spins and rollovers, significantly reducing the risk of a crash. Here’s what they are saying about ESC: “ES[C] makes an important contribution to accident prevention, and is therefore as significant for traffic safety as ABS, seat belt[s] and airbag[s].” - Dr. Hans-Joachim Schöpf, head of passengercar development, Mercedes-Benz “As a government official, who worked closely with the Michigan State Police to reduce car accidents, I have seen many situations—from inclement weather to sudden obstacles—that have caused people to lose control of their vehicles. ESC allows drivers in these and other conditions to quickly regain control and safely navigate their vehicle.” - Betty Mercer, Former Governor’s Highway Safety Representative, State of Michigan “It’s like having God as your co-pilot.” - Don Sherman, Popular Mechanics “As a trauma surgeon, I witness firsthand the devastating effects of motor vehicle crashes where multiple injuries are sustained because drivers lose control of their cars. Because ESC helps drivers maintain control of their vehicle and prevent crashes, it can be quite beneficial in reducing the severity of injuries if not their actual number.” - Ram Nirula, M.D., Assistant Professor of Surgery, Division of Trauma and Critical Care, Medical College of Wisconsin “These systems should be standard equipment in all SUVs. Their widespread use is virtually certain to result in fewer rollover-related deaths and injuries.” - David Pittle, Sr. VP, Consumers Union “During my 20-year tenure with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, we were able to help drivers adopt life saving mechanisms such as seatbelts and airbags. ESC, with its remarkable capability to help prevent car crashes, is yet another life saving technology that consumers must consider when buying a new vehicle.” - Adele Derby, Former Associate Administrator of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration “I've loved [electronic] stability control systems ever since experiencing firsthand how effective they are at keeping vehicles on course, whether on dry, wet or icy surfaces. - Lawrence Ulrich, Money Magazine “I am very familiar with ESC technology through my professional work as an engineer and as a consultant helping companies reconstruct automobile accidents. I see the damage that accidents cause and know there is a technology out there to help drivers avoid them. Both of my cars have ESC because it is an essential safety feature that I would not drive without.” - Dan Metz, Professor Emeritus, Department of General Engineering University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign “What [electronic] stability control prevents is a skid or a slide, and that's what leads to rollovers in SUVs.” - Brian O'Neill, Insurance Institute for Highway Safety “ESC provides drivers with confidence and a safety net to deftly handle sharp curves, rollovers and other adverse road conditions. Even the most performance-conscious drivers will happily realize that ESC doesn’t require a change in their technique, but simply keeps them safely on their intended path.” - Jack Nerad, Co-host of “America on the Road” and Editor of Driving Today website “As a 17-year veteran of the driver education and traffic safety industry, I have had the opportunity witness the development of numerous safety technologies. ESC is a significant advancement in the fight to reduce auto collisions and fatalities, and will be something that I will promote to new drivers as an effective safety system that can one day save their lives.” - Keith Russell, Executive Director of The Driving School Association of the Americas

Lemons

by talon95 on Sun Apr 25 06:33:45 PDT 2004

I had to chuckle about that statement... after all, if manufacturers were inclined to help you when you claim you got a lemon, they wouldn't need lemon laws in the first place. If you want to see another manufacturer's tenacious fight to avoid replacing a lemon, check this out: "More than two years after Adele Garcia tried unloading her ailing 2001 Mazda Tribute under Wisconsin's lemon law, she's still driving it. Garcia remains behind the wheel of the car with a troubled transmission primarily because of two words. When she told Mazda in a letter that she was invoking the state's lemon law to replace her Tribute because of persistent problems, according to court records, Garcia failed to spell out that she wanted to "transfer title" of the car." http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/feb04/204428.asp So Mazda is so steadfast in its resolve to NOT help this woman that it's using a loophole regarding legal jargon in her paperwork as the reason to refuse her claim. If you're really worried about this point, clearly you should avoid buying a Mazda at all costs. Clearly they're willing to "zoom zoom" right into court to avoid taking responsibility for a poorly designed and/or manufactured car.

Lemon Law in Wisconsin

by oldmedic on Mon Feb 02 14:57:56 PST 2004

Has anyone read about the Adele Garcia vs Mazda case in Wisconsin. It really smacks. In her letter to Mazda invoking the Lemon Law and requesting a replacement vehicle Mazda stipulated that she did not state in writing to "transfer title" of her current vehicle back to Mazda in exchange for a replacement. Duh. Case was thrown out twice on that fact. Its going to the State Supreme court now. Mazda is starting to smell again!