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Re: everybody has a price where they'll pine for automatic transmission [bo [plekto]

by boaz47 on Sat Oct 18 19:12:48 PDT 2008

I now you said you have been in LA traffic but I still don't believe you get it. Traffic simply doesn't move far enough for you to creep at 5 MPH without coming to a stop. we all know the LA shuffle. Put it in first and get rolling. Try and stay far enough back so you don't have to stop with the car in front. Then for no reason you can see the car in front simply stops and no one moves for one to two minutes. Auto of manual you have to stop. If you are on the interchange you will be stopping several times, 50 to 100 before you make it to which ever freeway you originally plan on traveling. That is La traffic. Add a Special event at Dodger stadium, the convention center, or the forum if you happen to be close to one of those events and you method will get you no where.

Re: everybody has a price where they'll pine for automatic transmission [bo

by plekto on Sat Oct 18 18:52:14 PDT 2008

Like suggesting that you could glide along at 5 MPH in a traffic jam and not run into the car stopped in front of you for 2 or three minutes at a time. I drove a Truck for years and even with a granny low LA traffic was a killer. And even a 3 axle KW doesn't seem to keep people from jumping in your lane once you leave more than three car spaces between you and the car in front. 5mph is a cinch to do, short of absolute gridlock like when they close down a freeway and the local streets are clogged. I chose a manual precisely because I *can* do this. I modulate the gas and leave it in first gear.(or 2nd) Loads less work. And my brakes last a couple of years between brake pad changes. The truck analogy isn't right, because in a typical car, the engine compression will grind you to a halt in first gear in well under 50 ft at 5-10mph. There's no mass at all, after all. But a lot does have to do with the gearing. If you have a short first gear, it is more annoying, but 99% of the time you can then just leave it in 2nd. It really IS easier. Yes, they will dodge in, but so be it - the reality is that you have to de-program your brain and stay in the same lane as much as possible. And not try to "beat" the other drivers. Of course, when you want to move quickly, you're already at 2-3K rpm and can just wind it up and go. I can slide into a gap in a second or two while my last automatic would have been don't bother - you'll get rear-ended.

Re: everybody has a price where they'll pine for automatic transmission [blueiedgod]

by boaz47 on Thu Oct 16 12:59:50 PDT 2008

"P.S. I drive a 2005 CR-V with manual transmission. It is a full 1.5-2.0 seconds quicker to 60 mph than automatic, and is much better handler in snow. " It is funny that you purchase, intelligence and preference didn't even make a blip on Honda's radar screen when the stupid people at Honda decided to drop the manual in the CR-V? With all of those wonderful advantages there must be some kind of mass hypnotism forcing Honda away from their money makers. But then again there could also be a bit of stubborn loyalty to a transmission over all else? Like a transmission would be more important than an engine, body style, or interior or offered options? Like suggesting that you could glide along at 5 MPH in a traffic jam and not run into the car stopped in front of you for 2 or three minutes at a time. I drove a Truck for years and even with a granny low LA traffic was a killer. And even a 3 axle KW doesn't seem to keep people from jumping in your lane once you leave more than three car spaces between you and the car in front. If someone insists on doing things the hard way and they are in the minority are the smarter than most people or just stubborn?

Re: Clogged water drain [pathrider]

by nvbanker on Sun Jan 27 05:50:47 PST 2008

Well....yes and no. I agree with you, that Ford should have paid. Design flaw though - probably not. An exceptional load for a drain to handle probably. As they said, only one other case. If 50% of them did this, then yes, design flaw. Like weep holes in doors and mufflers, they normally drain. Keeping leaves clear of windshield grates is usually a user maintenance item, like washing. But once anyway, I think Ford should have stepped up. See, this is where most Manufacturers blow it. The car is still under warranty - and by not paying for this repair - they have pissed you off, probably irreparably. $400 to you now, with a disclaimer that they won't clean it free again, and you should keep the pine needles out of it, to some degree, or you pay next time, would have gone a long way toward keeping your satisfaction attitude on the positive side, and may have sold you another Ford, and kept you from badmouthing Ford to 1200 of your closest friends...... :confuse:

It May Be Worth Remembering. . .

by cdnpinhead on Thu Jan 10 18:29:49 PST 2008

that there is much more demand elasticity in gasoline than in diesel. As gasoline prices go up, people may well drive less (turns out they often don't, but. . .) and demand does go down after a sharp price increase. However diesel use is largely commercial & the demand will continue at about the same rate regardless of price -- the trucks, trains & ships that burn diesel (which is a huge percentage of total diesel use -- I'd venture to say 90-95% or more) keep right on running in the face of increasing price, with a corresponding price increase in everything that is hauled or floated. I still pine for the days of 40 cent a gallon diesel purchased in La Grange (TX) in 1978. Two years later it was over a dollar, and diesel prices went up much quicker than gas did.

08Touring#6 w/mats and platinum extended warranty

by bob104 on Fri Oct 26 20:44:56 PDT 2007

Sorry if you've been waiting for a response. I wasn't checking in. Just picked up my car. Silver pine mica color. Exactly $30,000 OTD (tax is 7.25% in my county, I think). Check my former mail for the exact amount I paid in tax. They slid and slid and slid on the warranty so I finally got it. They slid and slid on the polish and Scotch Guard but I didn't get it. Final price for warranty was $1150 for a platinum warranty (everything covered except for wear items like windshield, tires, wiper blades, etc.) 6 years/100k miles. Remember though that the first 3 yr/36 is already covered by the basic warranty, so really you're buying an extension, years 4-6/miles 36k-100k. The warranty is tranferable one time. So if you plan on selling your car before the warranty is up you have a very valuable selling point. Very valuable. You can tell the buyer, "There is nothing wrong with the car that I know of. But if something were to happen it is totally covered." Sell the car near the end of the warranty for best value, imo. As a person I'm very skeptical, but at $1150 I think the warranty is very much worth it for the resale point of view alone. Though Toyota is a great brand there is a lot to go wrong on the Prius, also. The dealership, Toyota of Santa Maria, CA, about 2.5 hours north of LA is fantastic. So professional. The Internet manager/sole salesman, DT, is a lambchop. Just a totally trustworthy decent guy. (What has happened in this world that car salesmen are far more decent than flight attendants??) The car is quiet, decently powered, solid on the road. Complicated toys!! But I have a ten year old daughter so everything will be OK by late tomorrow afternoon. One possible regret. Touring tires are quite a bit more expensive than Basic tires. Before committing to a touring pretend you are buying replacement tires and check costco.com or tirerack.com to see if you are satisfied paying so much to replace tires. (I love the Michelin Primacy tires I just put on my Civic). I must say the Touring rides very well compared to my Civic. Good luck. Buy a Giant Suede electric bike with the money you save and substitute some of the miles you'd be driving a car. 2000-3000 mpg.