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Re: X6 fighter? [varmint]
by louiswei on Tue Oct 28 15:05:11 PDT 2008
If you are impressed that wagons (despite their non-sporty nature) can be made fun to drive, then what possible reason do you have for not being impressed with CUVs that accomplish the same trick? Because BMW's wagons are both fun to drive and PRACTICAL! Have you seen the X6? Edmunds IL called it perfectly pointless because it handles brilliantly as a BMW for a CUV but is poinless is a CUV is supposed to be PRACTICAL. Why would anyone want to buy a CUV that can only hold 4 people and has less cargo space than a midsize sedan? The only reason the X6 is selling (not well) right now is because it carries a badge with 'BMW' written on it. To be perfectly honest, if you think a same car can sell while carrying a badge with 'A' on it then you are loco...
Re: TDI vs TDI Loyal [ [noco_loco]
by shrifty on Tue Sep 23 15:38:55 PDT 2008
I was on the waiting list for a few weeks now, I should hopefully be able to pick up my TDI sedan this Saturday. It has been in for a week or two now, but I've been out of town since then. Fortunately they held the car for me. It almost seems like they will be receiving about 2 cars per month.
Re: TDI vs TDI Loyal [
by noco_loco on Tue Sep 16 23:02:25 PDT 2008
Are folks on the waiting lists for TDI sportswagens seeing any deliveries? Are folks on the waiting lists for TDI sedans seeing any deliveries? Are dealers in your area receiving more than 2 vehicles per month?
Re: - [andys120]
by lemmer on Fri Sep 05 07:30:47 PDT 2008
In a friendly way, I'd like to assert that you've gone loco. Any enthusiast worth his salt can detect a one second difference in 0-60 times. For example, you can't detect that a Corvette is faster than a Mustang GT? Also, if taller final drive ratios were introduced into manual versions, they would increase their highway MPG. That's the point.
Re: Billboards promote profit for the businessman. [euphonium]
by jipster on Fri Feb 29 12:59:48 PST 2008
The little W/S in your Volvo... The spacious expanse of glass in my Mazda MPV and Buick Regal are for looking at the purple mountains majesty... not "Loco Joe's Fireworks 5 miles ahead" billboards. If businesses can't turn a profit without billboards, then I would suggest they take another course in Capitalism 101... because they are surely doing something wrong. But, to me this BB issue isn't about business advertising or profit. It's about respecting other human beings and their lifestyle. You don't pollute others water (laws for this), you don't pollute their air ( anti-smoking laws) and you don't pollute the roadways and cities with clutter, blight and unnecessary advertising... which is the billboard. The big bad capatilist have had a history of running over the working man for extra profit. When unregulated.. their history of abuse of the land, water and human beings is appalling. One billboard is one too many. Just as one smoker in a room full of people is one to many. Whining may not get respect (could care less) , but when it comes to changing the laws that allow BB's to exist, it may get results. :shades:
Re: One more thought [michaell]
by alltorque on Mon Dec 17 08:19:48 PST 2007
I'm sure this is of no interest to anyone but me, but I've got to believe that more people in the US make the drive from one coast to the other than folks in Europe make the drive from Portugal to Finland. Absolutely valid point. Europeans tend to be much more parochial in their approach to driving. Number of factors at play, I think : Cost of fuel. You may need to take one, or more, ferries to do such a journey and would certainly encounter multiple languages/laws etc. We have lots of low-cost, and good, airlines serving just about everywhere from the Mediterranean to the Baltic............e,g, we're off to Dublin for Christmas, (from U.K.). Air fare is equiv of $2 per person, each way + taxes. Taking the car means catching a ferry, (not cheap), and the best part of a day vs a 40 minute flight from our local airport, (30 mins away). Also, we have a good rail network over large parts of Europe - France and Germany are particularly well served. In the U.K. we don't seem to have progressed since steam loco's were replaced. :sick: As a general rule we do not drive such long distances. I have a Canadian friend who is going to tow his Airstream down to the Rio Grande this winter - same as last year. Also, Texan friends who went on vacation to Colorado, (from Houston area). I would simply fly and hire a car, although we do take off in the car and tour France & Germany for 3 or 4 weeks. I wouldn't want to do any of those trips in a Yaris-sized box. Those same Texan friends seemed surprised, whilst here in '06, when we said no to driving to Edinburgh from middle of eastern England. Flying was cheaper, quicker and more convenient for a city break. But, some Europeans do get out and about. In Quartzite, AZ, last February we spotted an RV with German plates, (K=Koln/Cologne), and also one with Russian plates. Now that is serious driving but far far from the norm. So overall, typical Euro/Japanes subcompacts are not ideal for long distance work as described. There are real differences at play but not all Americans drive 1500+ miles on a regular basis so subcompacts still have a place.

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