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Re: rack and plates [craigk1]
by crd4liberty on Thu Oct 05 09:49:11 PDT 2006
Occasional off roading requires nothing more than the stock skids that come from the DC parts counter. They are pretty stout and about $250 for all of them. Takes about 45 min. to an hour to put them all on,and they supply everything you need to do the job except a socket and wrench. Real easy for the owner to put on themselves. You get what you pay for with racks. The Wilderness rack from Garvin has shown to be about the best there is, both from a use and installation point of veiw on the off road Liberty. The stock jeep crossbars if you go that way, don't whistle that I've noticed.
Re: Garvin Wilderness Expedition Racks [durability05]
by kommando on Sun Jun 11 21:43:34 PDT 2006
Like I said, Wilderness makes some good products, but the Wrangler tailgate isn't designed to support much more weight than the spare tire. People who get oversized tires (over 31") usually get aftermarket sparecarriers (like the ones @ www.jeeperman.com) that mount to the frame instead of the tailgate for this reason. I would install the supports provided by Wilderness, or get the Hitch-Haul with the 1 1/4" mount.
Re: Garvin Wilderness Expedition Racks [durability05]
by texasjeep on Mon Jun 05 22:44:53 PDT 2006
The stock tire carrier is rated at 50lbs and that includes the spare tire. I wouldn't do it. I do think the stock carrier can carry more than 50lbs but I wouldn't push it too much. I don't own a Wilderness tailgate rack and from the pictures you can't really tell much either. You may want to look at getting a 2" receiver instead. The receiver racks work good and some of them are raised. I think they have adapters to go from 2" to 1 1/4 so you could still use your bike rack and whatever else you already have. I would take your hardtop and doors off on a nice weekend and see how you like it first hand. I use a bikini top here a lot because of the heat and it keeps the wind down also. I even drive doorless with the full top (softop) on sometimes and I really enjoy that.
Re: Garvin Wilderness Expedition Racks [kommando]
by durability05 on Sat Jun 03 17:01:52 PDT 2006
Kommando, do you know anything about the Wilderness Tailgate mounted trail rack. I notice it has two supports that are removable via pins. Is it for the 200 pound capacity. If I was only to carry 50-75 lbs. Do you think I can get away with not having to install those supports. This means all my weight carrying would be on the factory spare tire carrier. I have pretty much narrowed myself to this set-up. If I don't have to mount the supports for now, I will go ahead and order one from 4wd hardware
Re: Garvin Wilderness Expedition Racks [kommando]
by durability05 on Thu Jun 01 19:25:40 PDT 2006
Thank You for the excellent information on racks, I actaully thought the KM was well designed, except all the pictures were on softops. After all your inputs on wind noise etc. I'm am probably going to go for the Wilderness Tailgate Mounted Trail rack. I got the Mopar factory hitch on the wrangler which is a 1 1/4 reciever, so that limits me , specially since my bike rack etc are all 1 1/4. Also about ease of removal of hardtops, softops etc. I prefer the push botton power top of my mustang, and its excellent wind defection of its windshield. My wrangler's seat belts would sing in the windstream with the top down. I will keep its hardtop on permanently, anybody needs a dual top?
Re: Garvin Wilderness Expedition Racks [durability05]
by kommando on Wed May 31 00:51:10 PDT 2006
I just put a KargoMaster rack on my YJ and it's considerably more sturdy than the others I've seen, with a 500lb capacity. I replaced an Olympic SportsRack (100-150lb cap.)with it, and the difference in quality is very noticeable. The KM is even slightly adjustable for fit. I've seen a few installed Garvins, and they're quality racks, but will be noisier than a KargoMaster because a KM doesn't have to have a basket up there. It also isn't quite as sturdy. With the Garvin and Olympic (and most others), the front mounts only attach to the sides of the windshield frame hinges. The KM attaches to both the sides and the front of the hinges, which makes it much more stable and considerably less damaging to your windshield frame nutserts. The KM rear mounts require drilling one 5/16 hole above each taillight, while the Olympic required 2 holes above each. It also utilizes the existing taillight mounting holes as well, and the KM brackets are gusseted on one side for strength. In addition, I substituted stainless hardware, including 8-5/16x4 eye-bolts w/nylocks in the upright and "streamer" bars. This makes the hardware rust-free and provides additonal tiedown points. Wind-noise is hardly noticeable with Thule crossbars on it, compared to going rackless, and seems better than what the Olympic used to sound like. I haven't got a wind-deflector for the Thule yet either. For even more cargo space, put a sturdy 2" receiver on the back (350-500lb tongue rating), get an aluminum 20x60 HitchHaul, a Husky 20x60 aluminum truckchest (@ Home Depot), and a locking hitchpin. Bolt the chest to the HitchHaul with nylock nuts and you now have lockable storage that can be installed/removed in a matter of seconds. HitchHaul also makes a 24x60 carrier, and there are many sizes of chests on the market, but you might want to beef your rear suspension/axle for more weight. See Airlift in-coil airbags for that stuff.

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