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Re: 'Detroit meltdown' worries Toyota, Honda [vanman1]
by duke23 on Thu Nov 13 18:39:35 PST 2008
Good post vanman1, ditto d. The supplier is a repercussion of the " They made their bed ". argument. Poor decisions have been made by the three but they have also been greatly abused by being locked into labor / health cost by the UAW. Given, that the current administration is pro union. Given, with the bail out they'll survive or some of them at least but even if they achieve future best selling brands, they'll have to work twice as hard to remain competetive. Given all that, I favor the bailout as it seems rather discriminatory to favor banks over financing divisions. But make it a loan, let's lose the bail out stigma and give enough money to survive '09 and possibly half of '10. If all three survive fine, if two or only the last man standing, Then he/they are responsible for P&I of the total package. The impact of large unemployment at this juncture is deeply worrisome. More so that US suppliers of car parts are driven out of business and we become dependent on the Chinese for aftermarket. I can almost see it,80,000 car crashes linked to use of cardboard instead of brake pads in Chinese brakes. Chinese response : well they were $11.00 cheaper per pad. Fom van's posted article: "We expect a major wave in supplier bankruptcies or a 'supplier shock,' " the analysis said. North America's roughly 6,000 auto suppliers are already under severe pressure from a collapse in U. S. sales of cars and trucks to 25-year lows, which has forced the Detroit automakers to cut output in the face of lower demand. Ford MotorCo. said yesterday it will temporarily shut down nine of its plants continent-wide this quarter as it builds 211,000 fewer vehicles than a year earlier, including Ontario assembly factories in Oakville and St. Thomas. "We're very concerned" about maintaining the stability of the supply base, said Edward Miller, spokesman for American Honda Motor Co. "Obviously this is very disruptive."
Re: Cal Thomas blames the UAW for GM's woe [dtownfb]
by rockylee on Wed Nov 12 23:35:45 PST 2008
I know you and I, are on opposite sides of the aisle regarding unions but wanted to say thanks for not believing his ignorance !!! :) If you believe is numbers which I don't FYI the new UAW workers are making $26.35 an hour less than Toyota workers in wages and benefits !!! The wages and benefits of somebody like my UAW GM/Delphi father two years ago was roughly $60-65 an/hr. but my father like many UAW employees saved GM/Delphi, millions of dollars a year from their suggestions......... -Rocky
Re: Cal Thomas blames the UAW for GM's woe [dtownfb]
by cooterbfd on Wed Nov 12 17:02:32 PST 2008
Consider the source. I'll bet he's OK with the CEO of AIG getting big bucks though.
Cal Thomas blames the UAW for GM's woe
by dtownfb on Wed Nov 12 16:55:03 PST 2008
Here's a link to an article by Cal Thomas where blames the UAW for GM's owes. I'm not a fan of the UAW or unions but I don't agree his assessment. http://www.middletownjournal.com/o/content/oh/story/opinions/editorial/2008/11/1- 3/swg111308thomas.html
Who else...
by lemko on Fri Nov 07 16:20:18 PST 2008
...deserves the full wrath of the automotive gods in GM's past and present for that matter? The only other guys that come to mind are Thomas Murphy and Robert Stempel.
Unions helpful to auto industry?
by xrunner2 on Fri Nov 07 12:31:57 PST 2008
Both Canada and Mexico have auto unions. Both are facing the same problems as the UAW Remember watching B/W British movies years ago with Terry Thomas showing how unions thwarted management in factories there. Didn't Brtitish have a decent auto industry at one time? Anybody here old enough to remember if these movies had any basis in fact? Any evidence anywhere that unions (in any country) are helpful to auto industries?

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