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Re: [brianlewis]

by ruc2827 on Thu Oct 09 15:43:50 PDT 2008

In order to make an accurate comparison of the Hybrid to a non-Hybrid Camry, you have to compare the Camry XLE to a comparably equipped Camry Hybrid, since both have a combined set of standard and optional features unique to the XLE and Hybrid models, therefore you can only get an accurate comparison by comparing identically equipped versions of these models, since it is impossible to get the same set of features on a base, LE, or SE model. See http://www.toyota.com/camry/features.html to compare the base, LE, SE, XLE, and Hybrid 2.4L models side-by-side. Specifically, only the XLE and Hybrid have the following standard features: * Acoustic noise-reducing front windshield * Chrome tipped exhaust * Smart Key System with Push Button Start and remote illuminated entry * Remote Keyless entry system * Metallic-style interior trim with chrome door handle accents * Multi-adjustable power driver's seat with adjustable seatback and lumbar support * Defroster-linked CFC-free dual zone auto climate control with electric compressor and Plasmacluster™ ionizer and rear-seat vents * Trunk-mounted cargo net * HomeLink® universal transceiver In addition, only the XLE and Hybrid have the following optional features: * Heated front seats * Leather-trimmed seats and door trim with integrated armrests, driver and front passenger power seats and dual front and rear map pockets * Voice-activated DVD navigation system with JBL® AM/FM 4-disc in-dash CD changer with satellite radio capability, MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® wireless technology, eight speakers in six locations and FM diversity Reception Additionally, the XLE also includes the following standard features which are optional on Hybrid: * Alloy wheels * Heated mirrors * Power tilt/slide moonroof with sliding sunshade * Leather wrapped steering wheel * JBL® AM/FM 6-disc in-dash CD changer with satellite radio capability, MP3/WMA playback capability, auxiliary audio jack, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® wireless technology, eight speakers in six locations and FM diversity reception * Auto-dimming rearview mirror with compass * Rear personal reading lights * Dual illuminated visor vanity mirrors Likewise, the Hybrid contains the following standard feature which is optional on the XLE: * Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) with Traction Control (TRAC) Since both models have a different subset of the same combined standard and optional features, to compare a Hybrid with Option Package D to an XLE with option package B to get an identical set of features. When you compare identically equipped Camry XLE and Camry Hybrid models, the difference in price is only $1355 as detailed here: $26,150 - Hybrid base $3,119 - Option Package D: Heated front seats/outside mirrors, dual illuminated vanity lights, personal reading lights (CQ), Carpet Trunk/Mat Set (CF), Leather trimmed seats (LA), Alloy wheels, 6-disc cd changer, Bluetooth, leather wrapped steering wheel, auto-dimming mirror, Homelink Universal Transceiver $720 - Delivery $29,989 - Total $25,575 - XLE base $2,140 - Option Package B: Heated front seats (HD), Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) with Traction Control (TRAC) (VS), Leather trimmed seats (LA) $199 - Carpet/trunk mat set $720 - Delivery $28,634 - Total So, by comparing the Hybrid to a comparably equipped XLE, there is only a a difference of $1355 You could argue that you can still get a base Camry for $20,915, which is $5000 less than the base Hybrid, but at this point you are comparing two different cars with two sets of standard features, which is not an accurate comparison. By comparing the Consumer Reports overall mileage ratings on the standard 2.4L Camry engine with the Hybrid engine, you will use 441 gal vs 625 gal a year if you travel 15,000 miles, which is a savings of 184 gallons, which translates to $736 at $4 a gallon. So, you'll recoup your investment in your second year, and every year thereafter you save $712 or more if gas goes up. Put another way, this $1355 will increase your monthly payment by $21 a month @ 4.75% for 72 months (current rate at PenFed.org, which anyone can get with good credit), but you will be saving $33 a month in gas over that same period, thus it is a net savings. To your other point that the Hybrid is not discounted, by emailing dealers for quotes directly or via cars.com or edmunds.com, you can easily save up to $3000. I just purchased a fully loaded Camry Hybrid for $29,003, a savings of over $3000 (got email quote from Jack Safro Toyota in Brookfield, WI and received vehicle within 10 weeks of down payment).

Re: Advice/Guidance Needed Lexus RX300 Transmission Problem [catalinajerry]

by sallyk on Sat Aug 02 06:05:15 PDT 2008

catalinajerry, I was also fortunate enough to have a similar experience, a positive one. I'd written in this forum a few months back about how I purchased a "new to me" RX300 (2000) with 100K miles on it. The dealership had the vehicle warmed up for me when I test drove it but when I started it up at home and I accelerated out of my driveway to a 55 mph road, there was a distinct hesitation. They initially "serviced" it but since that didn't help, they replaced it with a rebuilt transmission at no cost to me. Lexus paid for half and the dealership paid for half. This was much appreciated especially since I purchased the vehicle "as is". I am very fortunate to have this Lexus dealership in my area. Thanks Lexus of Brookfield.

Atamian Honda, Tewksbury MA -- great service before sale, horrible after.

by tronmech on Thu Jun 26 12:27:29 PDT 2008

I bought a Honda Fit from Atamian Honda on the 19th. Let me tell you about our experience. Before sale: + Came straight out and said that they can't keep Automatics on the lot, so don't expect haggling. OK, MSRP is pretty decent -- 16,705 for the fit sport. $17,943 once you add in the tax and doc fees. + When we said that our credit union could give us 3.5% APR on a 36 month loan, while they only had 5% APR, they bought their rate down to 3.99% and gave us $75 cash -- which is difference in the interest we would pay if we went with 3.5% from the credit union. + Didn't try to sell us stuff we didn't want or need (paint "protection", extended warranties, etc.) at least partially because we said up front that we didn't want them. After Sale: - The only way I found out that my delivery date was when *I* called *them.* - The sales rep simply didn't want to talk to me when I called to check the status of the car. - They could not or would not explain why -- when the car has been sitting just 50 miles away for *4* days -- it hadn't arrived yet. - They would not "take ownership" of the delivery process, expecting everyone to just sit and wait for their car. My personal favorite is this. I got a call from the sales rep today to explain why the car was still in the rail yard in East Brookfield, MA. He tried to tell me that the transportation coordinator told him that "the car comes in to the US in Portland, OR, and the floods in the Midwest have slowed down deliveries." This would normally fly, except that the car has been in Massachusetts SINCE BEFORE MONDAY. If you want to feed me a bunch of BS, at least try to make it Plausible BS. Don't insult my intelligence.

Madison, WI - Recent Experiences?

by tenjoh on Tue Apr 24 15:23:22 PDT 2007

Anyone in Southern Wisconsin have any recent experiences and/or advice to share? I'm a newbie buyer in the market for a 2007 TL/Navi a/t. With few in-state dealers, it's hard to get a competitive price. Middleton Acura (aka Zimbrick)'s rep acted rather offended I dared to try haggling. He gave me "we don't do invoice" and "I don't even know what invoice would be"; his best offer was 35300 before TTL. Acura of Brookfield (which appears also affiliated with Zimbrick) didn't have much in stock and pretty much was quoting MSRP. Boyland Acura (in Appleton) was a bit more reasonable, after some discussion, at 36700 OTD (high 34K before TTL). The prices are better in Chicagoland (a couple quotes just above/below $34K before TTL), but I am unfamiliar with what extra steps might be involved in buying out of state. Any input would be much appreciated!

Re: Any Wisconsin & Minnesota Buyers [sgtrock2]

by southpaw75 on Wed Mar 28 06:29:59 PDT 2007

sgtrock - I don't think they've received any GTs with the power liftgate yet. I'm sure that is why they are selling what they have at invoice. They want to make some room for those that will have the liftgate. There is a GT Pearl White at Hall Mazda in Brookfield. Did you check that one out on mazda website?

07 Vibe AT

by manoa on Mon Apr 02 22:41:13 PDT 2007

Bought a 07 Vibe AT+Power Package+ABS+Side Airbags for $17758 out the door. Sticker price is $20265. Negotiated the price to $19300, the tax in Milwaukee is 5.6% and the license fee is $123. I took the $1000 GM rebate, $500 Conquest, $400 Graduate rebate, $844 GM card rebate and 0.0% APR. It is a smooth transaction. It only took me less than an hour to get everything done. The dealer is in Brookfield and has no service fee.